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Cicero
Dec 17, 2003

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blackguy32 posted:

Its the reason why interracial marriages are frowned upon in the United States and why many religious conservatives are fighting so hard to keep gays from getting the right to marry.
Well, used to be frowned upon, anyway.

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In Gallup polls asking "do you approve or disapprove" of marriage between blacks and whites, the results have shifted dramatically over the past half century.

In 1958, some 94 percent of Americans disapproved. (The phrasing of the question then was slightly different, referring to "colored people.") By last year, 86 percent said they approved, while 11 percent said they disapproved.
11 percent is a pretty small minority: http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/Society/2012/0216/Interracial-marriage-rate-doubles-in-30-years-how-US-attitudes-have-changed

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Cicero
Dec 17, 2003

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He also insists that kids in same-sex marriages have the same financial guarantees as children of other married couples in time of divorce.
This confuses me. Like, why wouldn't that be the case? Are there same-sex marriage bills that are like, "Just like hetero marriage, except the kids are treated differently"?

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Dec 17, 2003

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Is there a text transcript of the Rhode Island shindig? It sounds like it was hilarious.

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Dec 17, 2003

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VirtualStranger posted:

All time high? The ABC/Washington Times poll from march showed support at 58%
Washington Post. Although it'd be pretty funny if the Washington Times had such a poll.

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Dec 17, 2003

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less "self-sacrificing" by heterosexual fathers
:psyduck:

"Well, now that gays can get married too, there's no reason for me to be a good father to my children, I guess."

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Dec 17, 2003

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lmao

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Fourth, the state defendants’ position suffers from a glaring inconsistency. Even assuming that children raised by same-sex couples fare worse than children raised by heterosexual married couples, the state defendants fail to explain why Michigan law does not similarly exclude certain classes of heterosexual couples from marrying whose children persistently have had “sub-optimal” developmental outcomes.

According to Rosenfeld’s study, children raised by suburban residents academically outperformed those children raised by rural and urban residents. Likewise, “middle class and poor families are ‘sub-optimal’ compared to well-off families, and couples with less formal education are “sub-optimal” compared to couples with more formal education.” Pls.’ Ex. 31 at 5. A child’s racial background is another predictive indicator of future success, as the study showed that “the probability of making good progress through school is greater in the U.S. for children of Asian descent than for children of all other racial groups.” Id.

Taking the state defendants’ position to its logical conclusion, the empirical evidence at hand should require that only rich, educated, suburban-dwelling, married Asians may marry, to the exclusion of all other heterosexual couples. Obviously the state has not adopted this policy and with good reason. The absurdity of such a requirement is self-evident. Optimal academic outcomes for children cannot logically dictate which groups may marry.

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cruft posted:

That's pretty catchy, you should get in touch with the state tourism department.
"At least we're not Mississippi" is already Alabama's unofficial state motto.

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Dec 17, 2003

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TinTower posted:

As far as I can tell, Mozilla's competitors in the browser market donated quite a lot of money to pro-marriage efforts; Sergey Brin donated $100k against Prop 8, as did Apple, and Microsoft donated $200k in favour of Proposition 74. Mozilla donated funds to neither. And, well, Opera is Norwegian.
That's not really a fair comparison. Google, Apple, and Microsoft are all massively profitable. Mozilla Corp basically behaves like a non-profit even though it's technically not one:

Wikipedia posted:

"The Mozilla Foundation will ultimately control the activities of the Mozilla Corporation and will retain its 100 percent ownership of the new subsidiary. Any profits made by the Mozilla Corporation will be invested back into the Mozilla project. There will be no shareholders, no stock options will be issued and no dividends will be paid. The Mozilla Corporation will not be floating on the stock market and it will be impossible for any company to take over or buy a stake in the subsidiary. The Mozilla Foundation will continue to own the Mozilla trademarks and other intellectual property and will license them to the Mozilla Corporation. The Foundation will also continue to govern the source code repository and control who is allowed to check in."

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