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xzzy
Mar 5, 2009

I know people have run the pi2 off standard usb without issues (using no peripherals) but the recommendation is to give it a power source that can provide 2.5 amps. I ran my pi2 with pihole for years on a 1 amp iphone charger.

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ryanrs
Jul 12, 2011

My Pi Zero 2 is pulling 2.75W of PoE with a load avg of 0.50. It's fetching 1 jpeg/second over the network and showing it on the HDMI port.

Based on this, I would guess that the Zero 2 will be ok running off a 1.5A USB-C port, but will probably not work reliably on an old 500 mA USB2 computer port.

e: UCTRONICS Raspberry Pi Zero USB Ethernet/PoE Adapter is the best way to power a RPi Zero with PoE.

ryanrs fucked around with this message at 15:39 on Oct 28, 2025

Klyith
Aug 3, 2007

GBS Pledge Week

VictualSquid posted:

I am trying to find sbcs that run on generic USB(PD) power supplies. I do love the classic pi0w for that, it even runs from a data port.
But now I am looking for more powerful alternatives.

Libre has a rockchip SBC that's like halfway between a Pi4 and Pi5 in grunt, and does real USB PD.


VictualSquid posted:

I suppose there are hats to add the capability to most pis, but I would prefer something that comes with the feature already available.
No peripheral are planned, but I do want either Ethernet or WiFi on the thing.

Can the pi02 run off normal USB? I recently tried to run my old pi3a from the charger that came with my tablet and it undervolted. And I think the 02 has the same specs as the 3a. I was doing that because I couldn't find my genuine pi power supply, and it wouldn't have fitted into the almost full power strip anyway.

Pi 2 & 3 should definitely be able to run from a generic power supply. I have my Pi3 powered by a dumb DC-DC converter. All you need is one of the (many) USB chargers / bricks that are happy to violate spec and deliver more amps.

If a tablet charger wasn't giving them enough juice, that is probably because it's got something that limits power -- either by USB-PD, the older USB-BC, or some semi-proprietary trick.

Pis don't do negotiated power delivery, they just draw more power and then throttle themselves if they get voltage droop.

ante
Apr 9, 2005

SUNSHINE AND RAINBOWS
My experience with early Pis and trying to get away with cheap lovely power bricks is that it's just not worth it.


The brown outs are inconsistent and cause really weird issues, like say the network driver not starting up properly, and burned more of my life than I want to think about, as well as causing a deep mistrust in the reliability of these things

spoon daddy
Aug 10, 2004
Who's your daddy?
College Slice

ante posted:

My experience with early Pis and trying to get away with cheap lovely power bricks is that it's just not worth it.


The brown outs are inconsistent and cause really weird issues, like say the network driver not starting up properly, and burned more of my life than I want to think about, as well as causing a deep mistrust in the reliability of these things

Its not just lovely powerbricks, its lovely cables too. Power is just one area not worth it to skimp on.

Gaz2k21
Sep 1, 2006

MEGALA---WHO??!!??

EL BROMANCE posted:

Just making sure you’re aware of our thread that covers exactly that topic - https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=4064326&perpage=40&pagenumber=1&noseen=1

(I’m terrible at remembering usernames!)

Hell Yeah! I've posted in there a few times.

Nerobro
Nov 4, 2005

Rider now with 100% more titanium!

spoon daddy posted:

Its not just lovely powerbricks, its lovely cables too. Power is just one area not worth it to skimp on.

any of my critical Pi's are on a seperate SMPS with the voltage turned up to like 6.2v.. which completely stops the brownouts.

spookykid
Apr 28, 2006

I am an awkward fellow
after all

Gaz2k21 posted:

I've been slowly acquiring a collection of older Pi's I've been using to set up as custom TV Channels, I've mostly stuck to 3B or above but im my haste found myself in possession of a 2 that came with a bunch of accessories including 2 cameras.

It would absolutely be possible to use the 2 as a channel as well but i'm tempted to build something else using it ...........only problem is I'm not sure what??? any ideas on fun relatively easy things I could build using this pi

Yooo... If it has cameras, to keep in the spirit of your "roll your own custom TV channels" use it to make your own lovely public access channel of like your cat's favorite hangout spot, your bird feeders, put it in your kitchen and make a lovely cooking program, the sky is the limit!

truavatar
Mar 3, 2004

GIS Jedi
Finally set myself up a pihole. Ended up buying an older 3 to just leave behind my router. Seems to be working so far!

klosterdev
Oct 10, 2006

Na na na na na na na na Batman!
Just wait to see what most of your traffic consists of. My TV phones home hundreds of times a day, and you can block it.

Gaz2k21
Sep 1, 2006

MEGALA---WHO??!!??
Further to my previous post I’ve used one of my old Pi’s to set up a Pihole, annoyingly the Sky Router my provider gave does not allow you to change DNS server or turn off DHCP, I can direct individual devices to the Pi but it’d be nice if I could have network wide coverage….any ideas?

Burden
Jul 25, 2006

Gaz2k21 posted:

Further to my previous post I’ve used one of my old Pi’s to set up a Pihole, annoyingly the Sky Router my provider gave does not allow you to change DNS server or turn off DHCP, I can direct individual devices to the Pi but it’d be nice if I could have network wide coverage….any ideas?

If it is just a router then getting your own router to replace theirs would be my suggestion. If it is a router and modem combo see if you can put it in bridge mode and then put your own router behind that.

Gaz2k21
Sep 1, 2006

MEGALA---WHO??!!??

Burden posted:

If it is just a router then getting your own router to replace theirs would be my suggestion. If it is a router and modem combo see if you can put it in bridge mode and then put your own router behind that.

Ahhhh that’s a shame, I was hoping there might be a work around, it was only due to having a surplus of pi’s that I decided to set up a pi hole, it’s only a few devices that will benefit I’ll hopefully be able to point them at the pi directly

coconono
Aug 11, 2004

KISS ME KRIS

You could turn the Pihole into a router have it serve DHCP and DNS to your network. You might need to get a beefier Wi-Fi adaptor since the pi chipset wasn’t meant to act as a heavy duty network gear.

https://raspap.com

Mantle
May 15, 2004

I think a better use for a rpi network appliance is actually as a tailscale endpoint. A bit more difficult to set up but it helps immensely when on traffic restricted or public networks. Also access to your home servers while remote on VPN is great.

ante
Apr 9, 2005

SUNSHINE AND RAINBOWS
Is there any project that can essentially duplicate Chromecast or similar functionality?


Chromecast itself is great - I can cast to my dumb projector from any device, and it also connects to some Bluetooth speakers.


But it's steadily gotten more broken and full of more stupid poo poo.


But I've got a bunch of Rock Pi 4s with eMMC that should hopefully eliminate some of the corruption issues that would happen with my home theatre setup that's just attached to a light switch with the hard power cuts.


This should be a solved problem, just everything sucks

Hadlock
Nov 9, 2004

what are you trying to do?

remote desktop: vnc, pick your flavor there's at least 100. if you're on Windows and admire arbitrary restrictions, rdp

audio/video: vlc, which is secretly what s lot of commercial stuff sits atop

remote windowing, abstractly: x11

you can mix and match, and use magic packets to awake remote hosts etc too

for a home theater I'd just invest in HDMI over Ethernet, your remote hdmi port doesn't need an arm cpu and Linux to computer janitor

ante
Apr 9, 2005

SUNSHINE AND RAINBOWS
Probably has to stream over Wifi. Sorry, that was a Critical Requirement that I neglected to mention.

cruft
Oct 25, 2007

ante posted:

Is there any project that can essentially duplicate Chromecast or similar functionality?

I gave up on this when I got Jr and myself a mini-pc for gaming. I miss having a nice chonky menu I can control with a 6-button remote control, but I don't miss it that much.

Maybe when the current hotness devices get well and truly enshittified, somebody will come up with a nice replacement. Here's hoping.

Space Gopher
Jul 31, 2006

ante posted:

Probably has to stream over Wifi. Sorry, that was a Critical Requirement that I neglected to mention.

You need to share more about what you’re actually trying to do. There’s a lot that Chromecast does for you, especially when it comes to validating interoperability. Just saying “I want to replace Chromecast” doesn’t go into enough detail.

There’s a good chance a Pi won’t be the best solution, either, although you might be able to make one work. Streaming video is not easy and it depends on having the right hardware codec support for anything with a Pi or Chromecast-sized brain. The Chromecast certification process makes sure that all of that is in place for you. Go outside the Google garden walls and all of a sudden it’s up to you to make sure it’s working at more than one frame per second.

If you want to stream PC games then try to get Moonlight or Steam Link working. This generally works pretty well but it’s very much a “set up both ends” thing rather than an “automatic setup is built into the world’s most popular browser and tons of different devices” thing.

If you want to cast your desktop from a Windows (or in some cases Linux) desktop PC, or do screen mirroring with some Android devices, then you probably want a Miracast receiver. You can kind of do this with a Pi but you’re probably better off with a standalone receiver dongle. Note that this often has weird issues with DRM for streaming video playback, especially if you’re using one of the Pi receiver setups.

If you want a “wireless cable” then there are some wireless-HDMI-transmitter dongles out there with varying degrees of jank that might work for what you’re trying to do.

If you’re trying to do anything with Apple devices then an Apple TV is a great one-click solution with lower-than-average hassles (especially when it comes to casting DRMed media), but you basically can’t ever leave the Apple walled garden.

ante
Apr 9, 2005

SUNSHINE AND RAINBOWS
Sure, here is the sitch


I've got a projector attached to my ceiling. There's an AC outlet on the ceiling right next to it, controlled by a light switch.

The projector is an old dumb projector.

Currently, I have a Chromecast connected to it, and it's almost good, most of the time.


So I hit the light switch, the projector and Chromecast turn on, and the Chromecast connects to my Bluetooth speakers that are positioned around my couch.

I can cast movies to the Chromecast from my computer or laptop or phone, and when it works, it works. That's all I use it for.

YouTube works well, piratey streaming sites work very occasionally, and stuff streamed from my hard drive have a weird stuttering bug.

Ideally, I can just stream stuff, somehow. I don't want a full media centre, and I don't use smart TV features. It's a once a month, play this movie, gently caress technology thing.

I'm willing to Linux janitor a solution once, if it solves my problem for the near future

CatHorse
Jan 5, 2008
It's a perfect use case for Android TV box. Those are like chromecast, but actually usable.

CarForumPoster
Jun 26, 2013

STUPID LOUD AND AI PROUD

ante posted:

Sure, here is the sitch


I've got a projector attached to my ceiling. There's an AC outlet on the ceiling right next to it, controlled by a light switch.

The projector is an old dumb projector.

Currently, I have a Chromecast connected to it, and it's almost good, most of the time.


So I hit the light switch, the projector and Chromecast turn on, and the Chromecast connects to my Bluetooth speakers that are positioned around my couch.

I can cast movies to the Chromecast from my computer or laptop or phone, and when it works, it works. That's all I use it for.

YouTube works well, piratey streaming sites work very occasionally, and stuff streamed from my hard drive have a weird stuttering bug.

Ideally, I can just stream stuff, somehow. I don't want a full media centre, and I don't use smart TV features. It's a once a month, play this movie, gently caress technology thing.

I'm willing to Linux janitor a solution once, if it solves my problem for the near future

Once you set up sonarr/radarr/prowlarr/jellyfin your life will be better forever. Literally better than paying for streaming

For streaming from phone ios->apple tv works almost too good plus your phone can be a remote.

namlosh
Feb 11, 2014

I name this haircut "The Sad Rhino".
I have the Sony HQ camera v1.0 that I just got from my brother for helping him get his later one working. It doesn’t have a lens.
Supposedly it will take c-mount plus I do have the c-cs adapter…
Any recs on what lens to get? I’d like to take clear picture of the skyline from our house near downtown for time lapses of that helps.
I really don’t know much at all about photography.

spookykid
Apr 28, 2006

I am an awkward fellow
after all

namlosh posted:

I have the Sony HQ camera v1.0 that I just got from my brother for helping him get his later one working. It doesn’t have a lens.
Supposedly it will take c-mount plus I do have the c-cs adapter…
Any recs on what lens to get? I’d like to take clear picture of the skyline from our house near downtown for time lapses of that helps.
I really don’t know much at all about photography.

I have one of these that's REALLY good for grabbing light (though a 35mm lens on a CS/C-mount is like pretty massive lens on a full-frame camera so there's a bit of zoom): https://www.amazon.com/Goshyda-Aperture-Aluminum-Multilayer-Accessory/dp/B0BG82XC4X/

I also have a Arducam 4-12 that's pretty decent for ~80 degrees fov: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B088GTLJC6

I have a 3rd lens, but it's basically like 4-12 but worse and lower quality so I wouldn't reccommend it.

Arducam (basically the go-to brand for sensors and lenses) also has a 5 lens multipack for ~$110 on Amazon, but I bet you could get the same packagefor $40 cheaper on aliex/temu/etc: https://www.amazon.com/Arducam-CS-Mount-Raspberry-Lengths-Telephoto/dp/B088GP9K4T/

E: If I knew what I know now back when I was experimenting with these lenses, I think I'd have actually bit the bullet and bought this one, as the range of focus and glass size is more versatile than any of the 3 lenses I currently have: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B088GQHVY3

spookykid fucked around with this message at 07:56 on Nov 25, 2025

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namlosh
Feb 11, 2014

I name this haircut "The Sad Rhino".

spookykid posted:

I have one of these that's REALLY good for grabbing light (though a 35mm lens on a CS/C-mount is like pretty massive lens on a full-frame camera so there's a bit of zoom): https://www.amazon.com/Goshyda-Aperture-Aluminum-Multilayer-Accessory/dp/B0BG82XC4X/

I also have a Arducam 4-12 that's pretty decent for ~80 degrees fov: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B088GTLJC6

I have a 3rd lens, but it's basically like 4-12 but worse and lower quality so I wouldn't reccommend it.

Arducam (basically the go-to brand for sensors and lenses) also has a 5 lens multipack for ~$110 on Amazon, but I bet you could get the same packagefor $40 cheaper on aliex/temu/etc: https://www.amazon.com/Arducam-CS-Mount-Raspberry-Lengths-Telephoto/dp/B088GP9K4T/

E: If I knew what I know now back when I was experimenting with these lenses, I think I'd have actually bit the bullet and bought this one, as the range of focus and glass size is more versatile than any of the 3 lenses I currently have: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B088GQHVY3

Thanks for this awesome post…

Also, it actually never occurred to me that they make adapters now. We have some 35mm camera lenses that we don’t have the camera for that might be worth trying. We got them in an auction lot. If space was an issue that wouldn’t work but it won’t be for this at least. Thanks again

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