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Yeah, I think the Ethernet and the wifi are run through the USB 2 bus.
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Jul 21, 2018 02:09
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Huuuugh. Do any of the clones have true gigabit?
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Jul 21, 2018 02:21
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KOTEX GOD OF BLOOD posted:Huuuugh. Do any of the clones have true gigabit? Most of them do, because only the Pis have that whole "rely on the USB 2 bus or go to hell" design anymore. All the recennt ODROID stuff has true gigabit plus often full USB 3.0 (which the ethernet doesn't need to hang off of), etc.
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Jul 21, 2018 03:04
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The Pi is plenty fast for whatever you're trying to do, so long as it's not a desktop or a file server, in which case you should definitely look elsewhere
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Jul 21, 2018 03:42
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fishmech posted:Most of them do, because only the Pis have that whole "rely on the USB 2 bus or go to hell" design anymore. All the recennt ODROID stuff has true gigabit plus often full USB 3.0 (which the ethernet doesn't need to hang off of), etc.
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Jul 21, 2018 03:48
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KOTEX GOD OF BLOOD posted:Thanks for the tip about ODROID. Wow, these are cool and wicked fast for the price. I might plunk down for one. Yeah, I've known a lot of places that were using Pis for things like interactive displays and accessing remote desktop sorts of things switch over to the ODROIDs for that reason. They play much nicer with all sorts of network stuff and for the groups that were willing to buy eMMC modules to stick on, they were much more reliable compared to SD media in the Pi systems.
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Jul 21, 2018 03:56
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It's inexcusable that raspberry pi's are being sold as having gigabit ethernet and 802.11ac when they're both bottlenecked by the USB 2.0 bus. I would never have bought one in the first place if I had known.
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Jul 21, 2018 03:58
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They look pretty similar in layout to the Pi, do they work with Pi enclosures?
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Jul 21, 2018 03:58
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KOTEX GOD OF BLOOD posted:It's inexcusable that raspberry pi's are being sold as having gigabit ethernet and 802.11ac when they're both bottlenecked by the USB 2.0 bus. I would never have bought one in the first place if I had known. I'll admit that's pretty crap, but on their website, they at least say quote:Gigabit Ethernet over USB 2.0 (maximum throughput 300 Mbps)
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Jul 21, 2018 04:08
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Cojawfee posted:They look pretty similar in layout to the Pi, do they work with Pi enclosures?
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Jul 21, 2018 05:25
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Look at the Neo2, it has a gig nic and a usb for wireless nics, I use it for iperf testing all the time. The whole kit was constructed for a maker conference at WLPC this year at https://wlanpi.com
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Jul 25, 2018 03:31
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So since I don't have a use for Retro Pi anymore due to Everdrives and the like, I decided tonight to try out Pi-Hole. Got it set up relatively easily over wi-fi, became instantly disappointed. Pages loaded noticeably slower, and blocked ads often had broken elements left on pages. I can see how it'd be useful to some people but for me I'll stick with uBlock on Chrome and DNS66 on mobile. I mean unless I did something totally wrong which is totally possible.
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Jul 26, 2018 05:25
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I recently found out that Synology makes all kinds of cool devices with ethernet and SATA port built right in, with a whole ecosystem of servers, surveilance camera stuff, even runs bog-standard docker containers. They're a little pricey, the 1 disk bay runs $108 (DS115j) the two bay (DS216se, DS218j) run $149, $169 but it comes with a power supply, a case, screwless everything, and a decent operating system. Also has true gigabit ethernet and real USB-3.0 ports. Once you factor all that crap in for the Raspberry Pi you're looking at a minimum of $60, the synology units come with a freakin' warranty and (I've tested this) phone support that speaks fluent english and actually knows what they're talking about. Ended up buying a DS418 for $370, it does all the raspberry pi-like things I need it to, and has four bays for disks in a RAID array, and two gig-e ports, and two USB 3.0 ports. You can even plug in a USB wifi adapter and configure it to back itself up to AWS S3 or Glacier automatically as an off-site backup. Also they look pretty bitchin for a storage appliance:  Also handles all the spergy stuff, like you can adjust the indicator lights, turn them off, or schedule them to turn on/off by day of week etc using a GUI... not that you need to, it just shows how polished the end product is.
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Jul 26, 2018 07:58
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Hadlock posted:I recently found out that Synology makes all kinds of cool devices with ethernet and SATA port built right in, with a whole ecosystem of servers, surveilance camera stuff, even runs bog-standard docker containers. They're a little pricey, the 1 disk bay runs $108 (DS115j) the two bay (DS216se, DS218j) run $149, $169 but it comes with a power supply, a case, screwless everything, and a decent operating system. Also has true gigabit ethernet and real USB-3.0 ports. If you're really cheap, you can use a hacked boot loader to run Synology DSM on beige box hardware too. I'm running a 5-bay setup that was $180 like 3 years ago. Mine even transcodes well for Plex. I also run a lot of Pis. Totally different product. Trying to use a Pi as a NAS has always been dumb. eddiewalker fucked around with this message at 20:15 on Jul 26, 2018 |
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Jul 26, 2018 20:10
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Does it have to use its own proprietary software or is it just linux and you can also install other things as well?
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Jul 26, 2018 20:20
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Kinda weird they don't make a bigger stink about their ability to run containers. That seems like a pretty novel feature. I've been poking around for a thunderbolt 3 desktop raid for other purposes but these guys seem to make a cool enough product I'll have to dig in to it. I'm hesitant to get too excited until I've tried it and used it, but they sure make it sound slick: https://www.synology.com/en-global/knowledgebase/DSM/help/Docker/docker_container I got some unused hardware, gonna have to try to see if I can get it to run this because this is nerd porn.
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Jul 26, 2018 20:36
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Cojawfee posted:Does it have to use its own proprietary software or is it just linux and you can also install other things as well? Linux-based, but can be bootstrapped. There are official and community packages that run in their web-UI, but you can run pretty much anything in Docker. The cheap boxes are ARM, but the high-end ones are x86, hence the Xpenology hacks for generic hardware.
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Jul 26, 2018 20:52
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Did my first ever raspberry pi build yesterday. I've been hyping up the Retropie to a colleague of mine, and she in turn has been hyping it up to her friend. So her friend sprung for a Pi 3 B+ and she and I set it up. Weird thing, couldn't get the USB stick to recognize in a windows PC to transfer over files to it but Samba worked fine. She was so impressed now she's talking of getting a Retropie for her and her husband's enjoyment. Fun little thing, we got one of the Canakits (With the NES-looking case) and it was a breeze. I'm thinking of getting one for my sister's family for Christmas, they would probably have fun with that
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Jul 26, 2018 22:03
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I'm trying to get Mumble client to work on Raspberry Pi, but it can't seem to "connect" to the Pi's sound. Neither input nor output work, no matter which device I choose. Any idea where to start with this? My goal is to make a simple Mumble client that I can use to talk to some friends online, without having my PC on.
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Jul 27, 2018 01:39
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Hadlock posted:I recently found out that Synology makes all kinds of cool devices with ethernet and SATA port built right in, with a whole ecosystem of servers, surveilance camera stuff, even runs bog-standard docker containers. They're a little pricey, the 1 disk bay runs $108 (DS115j) the two bay (DS216se, DS218j) run $149, $169 but it comes with a power supply, a case, screwless everything, and a decent operating system. Also has true gigabit ethernet and real USB-3.0 ports. I just bought and set up a 218+. It runs hardware transcoding which is kinda cool, but you have to manually install the 64bit plex and not the one in the app manager. It's a little loud as I have it sitting next to my TV like a HTPC, but I've gotten used to it already, and that's probably the 7200 rpm HDDs I put in it. Edit: Just realized this is the Pi thread and not the Plex thread. Anyone know how I could drop my roms on this NAS and catch them in retropi on multiple pis? Shawn fucked around with this message at 04:55 on Jul 27, 2018 |
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Jul 27, 2018 04:52
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Easiest answer is to put them on a share on the NAS. Then mount that share in an appropriate location on the retropi.
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Jul 27, 2018 05:34
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I'm using my Pi 3B with DietPi installed on it (directly connected to router with Cat-5) to serve Plex as well as some other things. I use my phone to access Plex and send it to my TV via Chromecast. The problem is, that quite regularly it'll give up streaming until I reboot the Pi. What's the best way to work out what is causing the stalling? I'm pretty sure it is the Pi itself, rather than the Chromecast, as for example last night when Plex was stalling I tried to connect to my VPN through my phone and it took a very long time to do so.
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Jul 30, 2018 16:16
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I'd be leery of running Plex on a Pi as it's so slow of a processor. At the very least be absolutely sure Plex doesn't have to do any transcoding as the Pi will be ridiculously slow at it (remember the CPU is about as fast as a computer from the early 2000's). I remember using Plex long ago and and it seemed to be very happy to try transcoding everything so it might be doing it without you realizing.
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Jul 30, 2018 17:58
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I finally found a use for my Pi after getting it as a gift a year ago. I'm setting it up to run a discord bot built off discord.py. It's a good opportunity to actually gently caress around with python as well, seeing as how I've been meaning to learn that for a while. Spent a chunk of time yesterday figuring out just how to get discord.py working since I had some issues with pip only interfacing with python2 instead of the required 3, but I eventually sorted that. I'm in way over my head, especially seeing as how I'm stubborn and insist on running a headless box even though I'm a linux neophyte, but figuring it out and making it work is fun. I've got the Pi running some basic demo scripts in my discord server right now, so (minor)SUCCESS!
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DrHammond posted:Spent a chunk of time yesterday figuring out just how to get discord.py working since I had some issues with pip only interfacing with python2 instead of the required 3, but I eventually sorted that.
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Jul 30, 2018 21:25
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Every time I try to use it, something has changed. I think pip3 is old or something and you're supposed to use python3 -m pip now.
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Jul 30, 2018 22:26
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Cojawfee posted:Every time I try to use it, something has changed. I think pip3 is old or something and you're supposed to use python3 -m pip now. That was my solution. I missed the -m part my first time around, and it took a bit of frustration and eliminating red herrings before I google-fu'd up the right answer.
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Jul 30, 2018 22:50
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mod sassinator posted:I'd be leery of running Plex on a Pi as it's so slow of a processor. At the very least be absolutely sure Plex doesn't have to do any transcoding as the Pi will be ridiculously slow at it (remember the CPU is about as fast as a computer from the early 2000's). I remember using Plex long ago and and it seemed to be very happy to try transcoding everything so it might be doing it without you realizing. I thought I'd turned off transcoding, but I'm not sure if it really has done so. Would Kodi or Emby be a better option for not transcoding?
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Sad Panda posted:I'm using my Pi 3B with DietPi installed on it (directly connected to router with Cat-5) to serve Plex as well as some other things. I use my phone to access Plex and send it to my TV via Chromecast. The problem is, that quite regularly it'll give up streaming until I reboot the Pi. It could just be the crappy network connection through USB 2.0 on top of sharing that same USB 2.0 bus with the storage and basically everything else. In short, a Raspberry Pi is barely good enough to run a Plex client. It plays the video fine, just everything else sucks (finding videos to watch and the interface). It is agonizingly slow.. I can't imagine trying to run a Plex server on one. Well... I can imagine, and it probably has results similar to yours.
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Jul 31, 2018 05:23
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I use mine as a DLNA server and it works great for that.
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Jul 31, 2018 06:27
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Anyone else having issues when running apt-get update? I am running a freshly installed Raspbian Lite just trying to re-do my pihole install. Like it will just sit here for minutes at a time: 
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Aug 11, 2018 18:28
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KKKLIP ART posted:Anyone else having issues when running apt-get update? I am running a freshly installed Raspbian Lite just trying to re-do my pihole install. Disable IPv6 and try again?
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Aug 11, 2018 18:48
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That’s a suggestion that I feel really dumb for not trying because it worked like a charm.
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Aug 11, 2018 19:01
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I've had that problem with Debian based things in the past and I don't know what fixes it. It would work for a while after boot and then just stop, while everything else just keeps working.
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thebigcow posted:I've had that problem with Debian based things in the past and I don't know what fixes it. Sounds like something on your network is advertising IPv6 connectivity that doesn't actually exist, combined with Apt being very unwilling to time out a connection. I used to get the same behavior back when I was using a Sixxs IPv6 tunnel which had somewhat unreliable connectivity, if v6 was down it'd take ages for my Debian/Ubuntu systems to fail back to v4.
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Aug 13, 2018 14:44
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It wasn't just Apt, it was everything local network and internet. Windows, Android, and Red Hat based things didn't run into this problem so that's how I fixed it.
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Aug 13, 2018 23:25
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I could have sworn I saw something along the same vein as my question mentioned recently, but I couldn't find it. Is there anything stopping me from running Pi-Hole from the same pi that's running RasPlex? Would that be a dumb thing to try?
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xzzy posted:Unless you have remote control to its power source, yeah, watchdogs are great. Turns out it does have one, but thinking about it, the few times it's become inaccessible over SSH were caused by something I'd done breaking boot before SSH could launch (or before my script to open ports could run) where a watchdog wouldn't have helped me anyway. Infact I've just realised that in the ~3 years I've used it like this it's actually never locked up once, which is a lot better than my brief experience of using a rpi1B+ for the same task. So I guess if you wan't something more reliable than a raspberry pi, a BBB running arch-linux might be a good fit for you. They are a bit old at this point (and I wouldn't use one for anything video related because they can't even output 1080P), but ethernet is NOT on USB, and neither is the eMMC or sdcard storage (ethernet is only 100mBit but at-least you can max it out reliably, and without impacting it's bandwidth to it's own storage/USB). Power consumption is quite low too (I measured consumption of everything for power backup and BBB drew under 200mA via a 12-5v adapter). Hadlock posted:I recently found out that Synology makes all kinds of cool devices with ethernet and SATA port built right in...
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Yeah they're kind of black box, but I really like the fact that if it dies outside of warranty, I can just buy a new one, swap the disks in and keep going. I was very on the fence about this sort of thing but ease of use and the fact that it just works out of the box are major plusses as my work takes up all the time I used to have for tinkering. The fact that you can run docker containers inside of them basically lets you run any kind of app, or just run a container and use it as a VM
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