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robotsinmyhead
Nov 29, 2005

Dude, they oughta call you Piledriver!

The 'advent' of kettle souring and that method becoming a way to put your foot in the door as a 'Sour Brewery' is helping or hurting, depending on how you feel about sour beers. Most small breweries can't dedicate the time it takes to get a real sour program off the ground, and kettle sours are a good way to bridge the gap. About 50% of the beers I brew at kettle sours now and they actually take less hands-on time than my normal beers.

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funkybottoms
Oct 28, 2010

Funky Bottoms is a land man

Bag of Sun Chips posted:

The possibilities are endless.

see also: flavor syrups

Furious Lobster
Jun 17, 2006



Grimey Drawer

DROP TABLE PHIZ posted:

Alright it's ~$15 ride out there, if it's that good I'll go for it. Any difference between the Chinatown/Highland Park locations?

Chinatown is their newest location and just opened a month or two ago. I'd suggest going there because the venue is much nicer.

Bag of Sun Chips
Jun 7, 2003


funkybottoms posted:

see also: flavor syrups

I honestly don't mind the experimentation - at this point, there's so many breweries, you can ignore pretty much every hyped release and find something equally as good on shelves. I like the fact that breweries can easily experiment with one barrel of a batch and release a one-off.

Angry Chair Rocky Road (and BA Rocky Road) are pretty tasty, though.

Cloks
Jan 31, 2013

Guaranteed to be right twice a day.



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Control Volume
Dec 31, 2008



Im fine with experimentation because I live in Denver and am insulated from beer releases being rare due to sheer market saturation

nah
Mar 16, 2009



Bag of Sun Chips posted:

Brewing isn't rocket science, just look at how the Rare Barrel got their sour program up and running - 3 "base" sours malt bills, then add whatever fruit you want. Speciation, an up-and-coming sour brewery in Michigan, does the exact same thing.

Granted, if you're a poo poo brewer, your base will suck, but it's really not that hard for these breweries to brew one giant batch of a base beer and make adjunct changes to them after the fact.

The possibilities are endless.

Cycle has one stout recipe for every barrel aged stout

Spanish Manlove
Aug 31, 2008

HAILGAYSATAN

nah posted:

Cycle has one stout recipe for every barrel aged stout

Which is funny because it's also a derivative of Zhukov. Same with AC's stouts. One bay area, one stout recipe.

Klaus Kinski
Nov 26, 2007
Der Klaus

Aramoro posted:

It's always seemed a bit



or wearing diapers to own the libs kinda thing though.

As long as you're not either party, it's still funny.

Although I'm kinda tempted to chug cantillon kriek or geuze since those are cheap and pretty much everywhere in Europe.

Spanish Manlove
Aug 31, 2008

HAILGAYSATAN

I'm gonna tenderly sip and enjoy a PC Pils

Papa John Misty
Dec 28, 2006

I wanna be the very best,
Like no one ever was.
To catch them is my real test,
To train them is my cause.



Smellrose

Klaus Kinski posted:

As long as you're not either party, it's still funny.

Although I'm kinda tempted to chug cantillon kriek or geuze since those are cheap and pretty much everywhere in Europe.

I'm not going to doxx myself but I definitely have a photo of me chugging Cantillon Kriek from the bottle on our drive from Brussels to Beersel

Captain Duvel
Dec 14, 2009


Sipping on The ground is shaking, Flanders from American solera. Everything they do is fantastic.

danbanana
Jun 7, 2008

OG Bell's fanboi

Captain Duvel posted:

Sipping on The ground is shaking, Flanders from American solera. Everything they do is fantastic.

I had their dry hopped grissette and it was good but i'd never pay $10 for a 500 ml of it again.

Klaus Kinski
Nov 26, 2007
Der Klaus

danbanana posted:

I had their dry hopped grissette and it was good but i'd never pay $10 for a 500 ml of it again.

every_grissette.txt

danbanana
Jun 7, 2008

OG Bell's fanboi

Klaus Kinski posted:

every_grissette.txt

Yeah, no doubt. Those things need to be in $11 four packs or something.

Spanish Manlove
Aug 31, 2008

HAILGAYSATAN

It's a loving table saison, there's no need for it to be more expensive than a sixer of some rinky dink IPA.

Bag of Sun Chips
Jun 7, 2003


Spanish Manlove posted:

Which is funny because it's also a derivative of Zhukov. Same with AC's stouts. One bay area, one stout recipe.

Admittedly, Zhukov almost seems restrained nowadays. One of the things that I love most about CCB's BA beers is how much barrel and booze they have on them.

Klaus Kinski
Nov 26, 2007
Der Klaus

danbanana posted:

Yeah, no doubt. Those things need to be in $11 four packs or something.

They fit into the same drinking slot as a fresh hopped lager imo and when you can get nice ones for less than 1/5th of the price, there's not much competition.

Lt_Tofu
May 15, 2008



I like how crushable Cellarmaker beers are. Been four years since I was last here.

Partycat
Oct 25, 2004

Rule Number Dos:
A lot of you maggot people are gonna see some things that you're not used to seein'. I'm talking about nudies! That's right! Botticelli may show a titty or two and Michelangelo may show a mans willy dong long prong... but you are not, I repeat, you are not to titter !

Plaster Town Cop

Is anyone considering the Liquid Arts festival this summer in Ontario? Iím pretty open to going and trying some internationals . Yeasty boys looks good.

On another note I took a winter hellstorm trip to Wisconsin and brought me back some good beers - the Squatters double IPA is really tasty. I hope some more of these things come east.

Also grabbed some of Flying Bisonís Juice Caboose which is okay but I guess I have been spoiled by some of Singlecut or Suarezís stuff.

FYAD SECRETARY
Aug 14, 2003




Lt_Tofu posted:

I like how crushable Cellarmaker beers are. Been four years since I was last here.

I crushed a few there last night.

I also went to Seven Stills to pick up a founders club bottle of whiskey that I won in their March Madness bracket. they do both beer and whiskey which is not something I've seen before, but I have zero experience going to distilleries. pretty cool spot, really chill but in a seemingly sketchy neighborhood. I think we drove through an open air market just around the corner.

Lt_Tofu
May 15, 2008



FYAD SECRETARY posted:

I crushed a few there last night.

I also went to Seven Stills to pick up a founders club bottle of whiskey that I won in their March Madness bracket. they do both beer and whiskey which is not something I've seen before, but I have zero experience going to distilleries. pretty cool spot, really chill but in a seemingly sketchy neighborhood. I think we drove through an open air market just around the corner.

Interesting, going to check that out. Thanks to Untappd I realized it's been 4 years since I was last at Cellarmaker, doesn't feel that long ago.

ReaperUnreal
Feb 20, 2007
Trogdor is King

Partycat posted:

Is anyone considering the Liquid Arts festival this summer in Ontario? I’m pretty open to going and trying some internationals . Yeasty boys looks good.

I'm going to the Friday night session. Looks like it'll be fun. The location is kind of annoying to get to though.

Aramoro
Jun 1, 2012



Partycat posted:

Yeasty boys looks good.

You get Yeastie boys pretty extensively through he UK and they're pretty solid I'd say. Looking at the list I would try Weird Beard, Pűhjala (Really fun guys, god beer as well), Wild Beer (Really great sour beer maker, a lot of creative beers), To ōl (Made the beer for my Wedding so always going to recommend) and Magic Rock.

Daunte Vicknabb
Feb 22, 2005
Michael Vick is already an elite NFL quarterback.

The best breweries at that Liquid Arts festival of the ones I know:

Dunham
Les Trois Mousquetaires
Other Half
Pohjala
Brewski (if berliners and such)
To Ol (a very mixed bag, but capable of some great great stuff)
Magic Rock (very solid pales and such)
Transient (of course, this is like the official goon brewery, I don't like their stouts personally but most people do)
Aslin (good hoppy American brewery, the stouts are gimmicky and sweet as poo poo but people love them)
Graft Cider (excellent off the wall ciders, super fun)

I'm sure some of those other ones are good too, but these are all ones I'd actively go try.

Klaus Kinski
Nov 26, 2007
Der Klaus

Definitely check out pohjala if you haven't tried their beer before. Super solid stouts and porters.

Dugges makes good stuff as well. They do focus on stuff for a larger audience but they usually bring fun stuff to tastings and festivals. Most of their low abv stuff is really good.

To øl is very hit and miss. On one hand they can make delicious sours, just to punch you in the face with a 10% cloying overly fruited triple ipa.

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Drunk Nerds
Jan 25, 2011



Fun Shoe

Drunk Nerds posted:

Need to get some craft beers for someone who only drinks miller lite, and doesn't like anything to bold or big. Please help.

Obv Mama's little yella pils is the resounding answer*, but I want to round out a box, so any and all suggestions would be appreciated.
I'm in Washington state.

Just FYI, here's the list I researched for this. Going to put together the box this afternoon if anyone has any more suggestions for "gateway craft brews for someone who only like Miller Lite

Lagunitas Pils
Mama's Little Yella Pils
Abita Light
Session LAger
Oly
Muskoka lager
329 Lager (Golden ROad)
The Brewery Saison Rue
Boulder Brewing Company's Sweaty Betty Blonde
Warsteiner Premium Verum
Okocim Blue Moon
Wittekerke

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