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Yeah i gotta imagine dumping grain alcohol into fizzy water is way cheaper than fermentation from a labor standpoint, even if the excise tax is much higher.
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danbanana posted:It's not taxes. It's simply state-based regulations on what booze a business can produce. Most states have separate license requirements for brewing and for distilling. This can even be ingredient-based. Off Color had to spend months getting a license to brew sake, which functionally is no different than brewing beer other than ingredients and process: It is taxes. At least if you are talking about all the biggest, most successful brands of alcoholic seltzers, which just happen to be malt based. There are radically different license requirements at the federal level for breweries vs. distilleries, not even getting into individual state level requirements, so, yes, this is yet another reason why making fizzy, fruity booze water out of wine or distillates is generally a losing proposition unless you've got mega-multinational booze company money, but the economics are vastly more favorable for FMBs. Here's a citation for you, so we can stop this derail from actual beer chat: https://beerandbrewing.com/dictionary/q4HZXwMduh/
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# ? Jan 25, 2021 00:05 |
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CleverHans posted:It is taxes. also FWIW at least around here a ton more places are licensed to sell beer/wine vs. "canned cocktails" which means they have a market incentive to make the beverage malt based
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# ? Jan 25, 2021 02:31 |
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MunchE posted:also FWIW at least around here a ton more places are licensed to sell beer/wine vs. "canned cocktails" which means they have a market incentive to make the beverage malt based A good point, as well, that varies state by state - here in MA there are many more places with just wine/beer sales licenses rather than full spirits licenses. Basically the entire regulatory structure in the US ends up incentivizing using beer-like fermented products, scrubbed of all residual flavor, for our alcopops/seltzers.
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# ? Jan 25, 2021 04:40 |
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White Claw uses predominantly millet, cane sugar and other gluten free grains.
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# ? Jan 25, 2021 05:17 |
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Costco occasionally has some great local-ish beers here. This week I picked up Hardywood Raspberry stout because it's been long enough that I can't remember what it tastes like. I also snagged a second 4-pack of Downeast Apple Cider Donut Cider for the wife. I say "for the wife" but I'm not the least bit upset when she doesn't finish her beer and I get to finish it for her.
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# ? Jan 26, 2021 16:42 |
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People are fuckin MAD they didn’t get any Pliny the Younger today. Sold out in like 5 seconds. RR made a post on BA saying they had 110k people trying to order from 6k available cases. I’m guessing a ton of them were bots but people are steamed as hell. And it’s hilarious to see grown adults melt down over beer. And a beer that’s been surpasses by 1000 other breweries in the past 5 years.
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# ? Jan 29, 2021 02:37 |
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I was just laughing to myself the other day because I remembered people used to line up to buy boring rear end Pliny.
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# ? Jan 29, 2021 03:01 |
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what the gently caress is a Pliny?
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# ? Jan 30, 2021 07:21 |
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Gross
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# ? Jan 30, 2021 08:49 |
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GnarlyCharlie4u posted:what the gently caress is a Pliny? A beer that has an extremely poor taste to availability ratio. Mostly by design.
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# ? Jan 30, 2021 09:31 |
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according to beeradvocate ratings, it's the 6th best beer in the world. I dunno, IPAs not my thing. #2 is a Marshmallow Handjob - as an imperial stout fan/addict I need to try that some time
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# ? Jan 30, 2021 16:25 |
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Scrotum Modem posted:according to beeradvocate ratings, it's the 6th best beer in the world. I dunno, IPAs not my thing. #2 is a Marshmallow Handjob - as an imperial stout fan/addict I need to try that some time BA ratings are now and always more based on rarity than quality
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# ? Jan 30, 2021 16:42 |
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I've been drinking non-alcoholic (<1% abv) beerish drinks because my stomach can't handle alcohol lately. Lagunitas makes IPNA which is ok but seems to be trying a little too hard to mask the lack of alcohol and Hop Water which is pretty tasty but not that reminiscent of beer. I also tried a couple drinks with sugar: a soda that sort of tastes like a dry lambic and a German style of lemonade with malt. These are pretty good at scratching the beer itch though they are kind of heavy because of the added sugar. My favorite so far is Clausthaler Dry Hopped, which is just malt and hops without yeast. It says under 0.5% so I guess it might ferment a little on its own? This is the best one I've found for convincing my lizard brain I'm having a beer in the evening. Any other good ones I can try? I might be able to get the local bottle shop to order exotic ones.
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# ? Jan 30, 2021 18:08 |
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Can you get anything from Athletic brewing near you? They're not fantastic beers, but they definitely tick all the "this is a beer" notes.
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# ? Jan 30, 2021 18:14 |
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JohnCompany posted:Can you get anything from Athletic brewing near you? They're not fantastic beers, but they definitely tick all the "this is a beer" notes. As much as they taste like unfermented wort they are some of the better NAs I have had. That being said, Bravus Oatmeal Stout is easily the best NA I have ever had though.
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# ? Jan 30, 2021 18:24 |
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JohnCompany posted:Can you get anything from Athletic brewing near you? They're not fantastic beers, but they definitely tick all the "this is a beer" notes. Yeah, a local bottle shop has those. Is the All Out Stout any good?
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# ? Jan 30, 2021 18:28 |
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I don’t think they’ve launched it yet but Flying Dog has an NA beer coming out soon called Deep Fake. I believe it’s an IPA but I’m not sure.
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# ? Jan 30, 2021 19:18 |
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Now I have to drive to Total Wine in Vancouver, WA. Thanks jerks
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# ? Jan 30, 2021 19:34 |
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Oof, that’s a horrible fate. If you have to cross the Columbia to get there, my local New Seasons (Tualatin) has turned their entire bar into a NA beverage display and have a few different flavors of that Athletic stuff. I imagine that’s the same for all of them.
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# ? Jan 30, 2021 21:14 |
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my friend who has tried a lot of NA stuff said Heineken was the one that tasted most like a normal beer
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# ? Jan 30, 2021 21:42 |
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A lot of the better traditional german lager makers have been making pretty great af pilsner for forever
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# ? Jan 31, 2021 00:53 |
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I'll tell you what. I got a sample of sam adams wicked hazy NA from work and I think it's the best tasting NA I've had yet. Most of the ones I've tried just don't taste right. I thought brewdogs were awful.
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# ? Jan 31, 2021 01:28 |
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Captain Duvel posted:I'll tell you what. I got a sample of sam adams wicked hazy NA from work and I think it's the best tasting NA I've had yet. Most of the ones I've tried just don't taste right. I thought brewdogs were awful. I've tried a number of them and that's been my experience so far--it's like turkey bacon or something, it just doesn't scratch the itch correctly. The best one I've had is Hoplark, probably because they're doing something different instead of "beer, but disappointing".
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# ? Jan 31, 2021 03:48 |
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This Weihenstephaner NA tastes a whole lot like a Weißbier without the alcohol. Definitely better with alcohol but still nice.
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# ? Jan 31, 2021 04:01 |
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Spuckuk posted:BA ratings are now and always more based on rarity than quality Theres a BA guy in Denver who does detailed reviews for a whole bunch of unknown local beers and hes one of the only reasons I check BA anymore. I dont even look at other reviews if I see one of his. Thank you, BA guy in Denver
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# ? Jan 31, 2021 18:54 |
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funkybottoms posted:my friend who has tried a lot of NA stuff said Heineken was the one that tasted most like a normal beer Can confirm Heineken 0.0 is the best NA beer by a lot.
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# ? Feb 1, 2021 17:25 |
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If it also tastes like Heineken I'd rather just be thirsty
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# ? Feb 1, 2021 18:44 |
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It taste like a empty bottle of Heineken filled back up with water. But thats just my beer drinkinh opinion. I think non-alcoholic cocktails are a better route for uh non-alcoholic drinks. Shirley temples are great. So are Arnold palmers. Pepsi with lime. Virgin rum n cokes
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# ? Feb 1, 2021 23:33 |
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ShortyMR.CAT posted:Virgin rum n cokes
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# ? Feb 1, 2021 23:37 |
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You just make a regular rum and coke and then drink the rum part.
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# ? Feb 2, 2021 01:56 |
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ShortyMR.CAT posted:It taste like a empty bottle of Heineken filled back up with water. Tbh I ended up making a lot of random mixes of seltzer/la croix, ginger beer, fruit juice (lime, cranberry, grapefruit, orange) and it scratched the beer itch pretty well when I took a month off. Not this month tho
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# ? Feb 2, 2021 02:20 |
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If you have a Persian/Arabic market near you they often have non alcoholic malt beverages. Most taste like carbonated non fermented wort, but its interesting. I used to by them to drink at my desk during work as we had a Persian market close by.
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# ? Feb 2, 2021 13:45 |
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Its exactly what you think it is.
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# ? Feb 2, 2021 21:11 |
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Spuckuk posted:BA ratings are now and always more based on rarity than quality I've never had one, but I have had plenty of local clones of it, which have been quite good. Bitter simcoe-forward west coast IPAs are pretty nice, although I'd prefer something at 6,5% over 8,0%.
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# ? Feb 4, 2021 20:29 |
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Near beer reviews! Weihenstephaner Hefe: Tastes exactly like Bavarian white beer with no alcohol. OK but not balanced. Clausthaler: The normal one is a good pilsner knockoff. The dry hopped one is a GREAT drink with a good bite. Definitely getting that one again. Bravus Amber: Tastes like any random amber, which is to say not good. Why did I buy this one? Bravus Raspberry Gose: Very good dry fruity flavor. Not that beery but reminiscent of the gose style. Bravus Oatmeal Stout: This is an interesting one. It doesn't really taste like a stout but it has a nice full flavor. Surreal Kolsch: Sort of like La Croix for beer. Only 17 calories in a can so it's got very little malt in there. Probably lovely on a hot day, like a real Kolsch. Athletic Golden: This is only malt, hops, and yeast, but it has a distinctive citrus taste. More like an unsweet soda but very tasty and only 1/3 of the calories of a can of Coke.
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# ? Feb 4, 2021 21:03 |
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Its been over a year since I got a beer on draft
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# ? Feb 14, 2021 01:02 |
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Control Volume posted:Its been over a year since I got a beer on draft Went to my favorite brewery in CT today for the first time since last year's Superbowl. Its a few hours away but I normally go in and have a couple of pints while visiting family every 2-3 months. Couldn't go in of course but was at least able to get some beer to go.
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# ? Feb 14, 2021 01:32 |
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Control Volume posted:Its been over a year since I got a beer on draft Look at this guy not buying mini Heineken kegs
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# ? Feb 15, 2021 21:19 |
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Control Volume posted:Its been over a year since I got a beer on draft Thank you for your service. No seriously, thank you for actually following protocols and guidelines and staying inside. Signed, someone who's watching local covid numbers skyrocket thanks to the super bowl.
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