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HootTheOwl
May 13, 2012

Hootin and shootin

The Rev posted:

I've got a 5.5 month Greater Swiss Mountain Dog who for the most part is happy and healthy. However once every other week or so at random he will wake us up between 4-6am with loud horking noises which culminate in dry heaving, and very rarely upchucking a small amount of pale brown-colored liquid (bile perhaps?). He's now started doing this every night for the last four nights despite no noticeable change to his diet or lifestyle. He doesn't seem to be in distress afterward and will usually just fall back asleep in a few minutes. He's never done this outside of the 4-6am window.

I'm booked for a vet apt in a week's time, but curious if anyone has ever gone through a similar thing. Again 90% of the time he doesn't barf up anything, once he's barfed up a wrapper he must have eaten on a walk, and 10% of the time it's maybe a teaspoons' worth of pale brown liquid.

Dog Tax:
Sounds like your dog ate something he wasn't supposed to, like whatever was in that wrapper. Sometimes it can take them a while to expel it.
My dog ate a toy once and it took him ten days to throw it up.
Switch to something easy to eat like chicken and rice until he stops or the thread gives you a better idea. And, of course, listen to what your vet says.

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AlexDeGruven
Jun 29, 2007

Watch me pull my dongle out of this tiny box


When Jarvis was a puppy he would do this. We looked around and found it was probably due to being over hungry. Maybe start giving a small snack right before bed? That's what worked for us.

In other news, we had a good laugh at one of Jarvis's innate behaviors this week.

My oldest was hiding under a blanket calling for help. Jarvis ran over and started digging right next to him. Not quite digging at him, but close, and pulling the blanket away. Then it clicked and I remember that he's half mountain rescue/working dog, and he was trying to dig him out of the snow.

Of course, now he's chewing on the handle of the flirt stick, so full dumbass mode is engaged.

movax
Aug 30, 2008

Any anti-poo eating tips? Is it just a phase they grow out of? My pup is 5 months old and we watch him like a hawk, because after he poops / another dog poops... nothing in the world is tastier than poop. And parasites are no good!

The guilty party:

movax fucked around with this message at 23:23 on Jan 24, 2022

Son of Thunderbeast
Sep 21, 2002
Try to eat it first to assert dominance

Nah I've never had to deal with that luckily, i know they make products that supposedly help but i don't know anything about them. Chop Chop recently tried to eat one of his own poops but that was a really weird and gross one off

GoGoGadgetChris
Mar 18, 2010

i powder a
granite monument
in a soundless flash

showering the grass
with molten drops of
its gold inlay

sending smoking
chips of stone
skipping into the fog
My 1 year old Golden was spayed on Friday the 21st and I am curious if her healing seems to be normal given some Concerns.

Unfortunately I didn't get any pictures on the day of surgery (Day 0), or 24 hours after surgery (Day 1), but I've been cataloging it ever since.

Day 2 - 48 hours after surgery



Overnight from Day 2 -> 3 she took a tumble down a flight of stairs which is Concern #1. She didn't bleed and had no physical or behavioral symptoms that we have noticed.

Day 3





On Day 3 we learned she had a severe ear infection that required immediate treatment with twice daily drops. She's TERRIFIED of ear drops but we need to start treating now vs waiting until we can do de-sensitization training, so we've unfortunately needed to use full-body force to restrain her while a 2nd person puts the drops in. Thus I'm concerned that the stress, her violent thrashing out of our arms, and the restraining force applied to her body could be impacting her recovery (Concern #2)

Day 4





As of Day 4 she has her normal energy and wants to spring/zoom/jump/lunge/pounce/bounce. She is on Trazadone (weak sedative) but they gave us Acepromazine (heavy tranquilizer) in case she is too active. We started giving her half the suggested dose of the Acepromazine on Day 4 because she wants to be more hyper than ever

Day 5





Today is her final day of the Trazadone (weak sedative) and she's even more hyper than yesterday. I'll probably start giving her the full dose of the Acepromazine (heavy tranq) once her Trazadone is gone because she's wild beyond words.

She's 3 days in to her 7 days of ear drops and the ears are no longer secreting a heavy flow of stinky liquid (her ears were sopping wet 24/7 at the height of infection) but now they have dried, crunchy and dark mats of fur. Hopefully just the bacteria or fungus or whatever dying off? We would've preferred to wait until after the spay recovery to treat the ear infection but it was horrendous and needed immediate attention.

BAGS FLY AT NOON
Apr 6, 2011

A Soft Nylon Bag
Can you email those pics to your vet? The most recent ones it maybe looks like the incision area is dirty but it’s hard to tell.

Lhet
Apr 2, 2008

bloop


Sabo is doing well, we've had a lot of people over and he's done really well. Also took him to the dog park - we muzzled him to be safe, was nervous and growly at first, but then figured out some manners and the whole buttsniff introduction thing, and did really well and wore himself out.


Current issue is just he'll get in moods where he keeps on grabbing shoes/blankets/things he knows he shouldn't have - he alternates this with toy play with this but keeps on alternating to wrong things. He usually responds to scolding or diversion, but its something else a minute later. We've found we can keep him from getting too rambunctious with walks (usually 3 a day), but not really sure on the medium-energy causing-problems mood. Is more toys a good strategy, or maybe something along the lines of a bone? (no idea if these are recommended nowadays)


Here he is after the park.

Lhet fucked around with this message at 21:50 on Jan 26, 2022

TooMuchAbstraction
Oct 14, 2012

I spent four years making
Waves of Steel
Hell yes I'm going to turn my avatar into an ad for it.
Fun Shoe

Lhet posted:

Current issue is just he'll get in moods where he keeps on grabbing shoes/blankets/things he knows he shouldn't have - he alternates this with toy play with this but keeps on alternating to wrong things.

Sometimes dogs do this because they're feeling ignored. Acting out is a guaranteed way to get attention, even if it's negative attention.

How much alone time does he get right now? He may just not know how to cope with boredom. You could try training him to do long stays, like, tell him to lie in his bed, stay, then you turn around and do something else for however long you can get away with (up to maybe 2 minutes at most before you release him, I would say). You'll probably have to keep the time pretty short early on, but my experience is that this is a good way to teach dogs to be more patient. Or at least, it worked on my dog!

Tayter Swift
Nov 18, 2002

Pillbug
Puppies are such assholes.

Another Bill
Sep 27, 2018

Born on the bayou
died in a cave
bbq and posting
is all I crave

Lhet posted:

Current issue is just he'll get in moods where he keeps on grabbing shoes/blankets/things he knows he shouldn't have - he alternates this with toy play with this but keeps on alternating to wrong things. He usually responds to scolding or diversion, but its something else a minute later. We've found we can keep him from getting too rambunctious with walks (usually 3 a day), but not really sure on the medium-energy causing-problems mood. Is more toys a good strategy, or maybe something along the lines of a bone? (no idea if these are recommended nowadays)


My puppy does this as well and I can excuse it as puppy behaviour EXCEPT that he especially does it between 9-11pm at night after we get our kids in bed. I could deal with the witching hour much better if it wasn't at the end of the day. But he's getting much better. 3 walks a day def. helps, but it's been very cold here, hovering below -15 C so I can't take him out as much as I'd like. He's just a babe after all.

Son of Thunderbeast
Sep 21, 2002
I love the witching hour, my pup is very well behaved for his age so all that happens is zoomies. I'm usually up late-ish so I'll take him out for his nighttime zoomies and he can tear rear end around the yard all he wants, it rules.

Except the one time he was doing laps around the house and he didn't come back around for a bit, that was when I found him licking a possum lol

Lhet
Apr 2, 2008

bloop


TooMuchAbstraction posted:

Sometimes dogs do this because they're feeling ignored. Acting out is a guaranteed way to get attention, even if it's negative attention.

How much alone time does he get right now? He may just not know how to cope with boredom. You could try training him to do long stays, like, tell him to lie in his bed, stay, then you turn around and do something else for however long you can get away with (up to maybe 2 minutes at most before you release him, I would say). You'll probably have to keep the time pretty short early on, but my experience is that this is a good way to teach dogs to be more patient. Or at least, it worked on my dog!

He gets decent alone time - crated during night and about 3-4 hours in the middle of the day during weekdays (I work from home), and does well with it. I will try to teach lie down, that sounds very handy.

Instant Jellyfish
Jul 3, 2007

Actually not a fish.



The witching hour is real and it is terrible, but they do grow out of it. My dog now does some interactive play until 9 then passes out for the rest of the night instead of being an awful monster as pictured a year ago:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sTfh-E2xMHU

If he's grabbing "wrong" things just make the right things way more accessible and fun than what you don't want him to have. Swap them out and keep naughty stuff put away as much as possible. Teenage shitheads just like to push boundaries. Mine still likes to look directly at me while trying to pull up the floor registers, which I have told her not to do every single day for the past 6 months. They'll get over it eventually.

TooMuchAbstraction
Oct 14, 2012

I spent four years making
Waves of Steel
Hell yes I'm going to turn my avatar into an ad for it.
Fun Shoe
Agh. Pavlov's toe lump was getting better, so I called the vets and cancelled the appointments I'd set up. Then this evening, I thought to check the underside of his paw, and it's raw and weepy. :negative:

The worst part of this is, he's entirely capable of licking the crap out of the underside of his paw, even with the e-collar on. So I have to be hypervigilant all the time to stop him when he starts. I'm so tired of being alert.

EDIT: anyone know if there's, like, particularly long e-collars? Even just an extra inch of length over the one I have right now would probably be enough.

TooMuchAbstraction fucked around with this message at 04:42 on Jan 27, 2022

Harvey Mantaco
Mar 6, 2007

Someone please help me find my keys =(
We have a rescue, a 15 week old lab/pit.
Nip training is going well, along with crating and everything else but goddamn this dog refuses to poop or pee outside. I've been taking her in and out for the last 3 hours since she ate (can't stay outside too long due to the cold). It's always the same thing. On weekdays I eventually have to work and can't keep at it all day and that's when she poops (there's a couple general places she goes all the time).
I'm just struggling so much with this. I want a win for her.
When she poops inside she avoids pee mats as well. She usually pees on them fine but keeps squirting little toonie sized piss spots around the house as well.

Anyway - there's no bad pets only bad owners and I owe it to her to make this work. But... gently caress. I'm so tired, lol. Doesn't help that I'm the only person in the family not sick so I'm doing this all solo.

Harvey Mantaco
Mar 6, 2007

Someone please help me find my keys =(

movax posted:

Any anti-poo eating tips? Is it just a phase they grow out of? My pup is 5 months old and we watch him like a hawk, because after he poops / another dog poops... nothing in the world is tastier than poop. And parasites are no good!

The guilty party:



My buddy was having this issue. Started giving his dog a potassium chew his vet approved and it went away. I don't know why, sorry, but might give you some direction.

TooMuchAbstraction
Oct 14, 2012

I spent four years making
Waves of Steel
Hell yes I'm going to turn my avatar into an ad for it.
Fun Shoe
Pavlov update: finally got a vet appointment for him today. He had to be sedated, because he has massive vet-related anxiety. They drained the abscess in his paw, stitched him up, updated his vaccinations, and gave me some antibiotics and pain meds to give him. He's now feeling extremely woeful and nauseated from the sedation. Also I had to put a shoe on his paw, because the e-collar isn't big enough to keep him from licking the stitches. I am absolutely going to have to do something about that; we can't go the two weeks until the stitches come out with him wearing a shoe all the time, or even just all the time he's unsupervised.

cryptoclastic
Jul 3, 2003

The Jesus
We got a puppy from the shelter back in November. At that time she was around 4 months old. She had some stress issues for a little while and couldn't keep any food down, so we were feeding her Hill's I/D for digestion. Now we've transitioned her to Nature's Logic Chicken Meal.

The problem we've been having is that her poo always turns to mush towards the end of a movement. The first turd is normal but the end is like soft-serve ice cream, and doesn’t come off the sidewalk. This was happening through the Hills as well so I don't think it's a food problem. It could also be stress related, as she enjoys going outside but gets stress easily. She doesn't like putting on her collar and getting ready to go out, but when she gets outside and forgets about all the cars and loud noises she has fun. I've also thought that maybe I'm feeding her too much, but I'm not sure about that either. A chart I found said for a 20 pound 8 month old we should be feeding her around 700 calories a day. I think she was getting maybe 750-800 or so, but I don't want to underfeed her as well since she's still growing.

So what can I do to firm up this pup's poop? Lower her calories? Feed her supplements or something?

Alucard
Mar 11, 2002
Pillbug
We give our pupper frozen pumpkin in her kong toy and it helps when she's dispensing chocolate fro-yo.

GoGoGadgetChris
Mar 18, 2010

i powder a
granite monument
in a soundless flash

showering the grass
with molten drops of
its gold inlay

sending smoking
chips of stone
skipping into the fog
Yay, my doggy is at 10 days post-Spay and the vet says her incision looks fantastic and she's ready to say goodbye to the Recovery Pajamas

She's been having pee accidents in the house since Day 9, though... Apparently when their internal sutures dissolve, they can have some bladder control issues?

vs Dinosaurs
Mar 14, 2009
My dog peed all over my bed 10 days after his balls were removed, so I would believe it. No incidents since.

Also - re: poop becoming soft towards the end of a movement: this happens to my pup when he gets really excited right before making GBS threads. Moves the food down the tract too quickly or something. On the same food if he is in a more mellow mood he will have solid shits end to end.

Instant Jellyfish
Jul 3, 2007

Actually not a fish.



cryptoclastic posted:

So what can I do to firm up this pup's poop? Lower her calories? Feed her supplements or something?

It's certainly an easy enough thing to see if reducing her food slightly clears it up. At 8 months old and 20 lbs she's not going to be doing a ton more growing so you're not going to hurt anything by cutting back a little and seeing if it helps. Feeding charts tend to overestimate and it always takes me some fiddling to figure out how much my dogs actually need.

GoGoGadgetChris posted:

Yay, my doggy is at 10 days post-Spay and the vet says her incision looks fantastic and she's ready to say goodbye to the Recovery Pajamas

She's been having pee accidents in the house since Day 9, though... Apparently when their internal sutures dissolve, they can have some bladder control issues?

Sorry you're having piss problems :( They can be off for a while during healing but if it continues make sure to talk to your vet because there are medications that can help with spay incontinence if that's what she ends up having.

Adrianics
Aug 15, 2006

Affirmative. Yes. Yo. Right on. My man.
My wife and I brought Cosmo home last weekend:



He is for the most part an incredibly self-efficient and chilled out little guy. Very happily spends most of the day in his crate while we work from home as long as we give him a good playtime and runaround at lunch and shower him with attention during witching hour in the evening, and is already telling us when he needs to go outside for toilet.

We're first-time owners and I feel like I'm expecting far too much far too fast. I'm worried my wife is spoiling him and rewarding attention-seeking or destructive behaviour. He absolutely loving hates it when I attempt to put on his training leash and has learned to sit still and refuse to move if he doesn't want to do something. I know he loves my wife and me, and his new home, but I've wound myself up reading too many websites and watching too many videos and now feel that for every minute of the day I'm not socialising him or training him to do something increases the odds that we'll end up with an uncontrollable little monster.

Anyway, I know there's a lot of adventures ahead. I'm grateful for this thread and reading all of your experiences!

Sistergodiva
Jan 3, 2006

I'm like you,
I have no shame.

I thought I had the most well behaved dog ever the first few days. Then I think she got over the initial shock and became more of a monster.

Bob Shadycharacter
Dec 19, 2005
If anyone has advice for a dog that is refusing to poop/pee in the snow I would love to hear it. She came to us from Texas last year so she probably doesn't have much experience with snow. We had a bad storm last year and she refused to do anything outside but beg to come back in, u eventually took her out and just walked her for 45 minutes she finally gave up and pooped. Thought we had kind of gotten over it, but this year she's doing it again.

The worst part is she mostly doesn't even have accidents in the house, just holds it for a whole day sometimes more. I'm worried that's not healthy for her.

I've tried coats and boots and a hat for her, treating her to go outside and stay outside, etc. No go. She has had a few accidents inside this week (big ice storm yesterday) and last week right after the big blizzard. I loving hate winter too, girl, but...

I do shovel out an area for them to go in.

Would post pictures but I have never been able to make that work on the app for some reason.

Bob Shadycharacter fucked around with this message at 04:43 on Feb 15, 2022

Instant Jellyfish
Jul 3, 2007

Actually not a fish.



If you have a chewy account and your pet's profile has a picture uploaded, sometimes they randomly send you a pet portrait they have commissioned for you. I don't know how they choose but it was my time.


vvv I actually don't even use them that regularly, I tend to pick up dog food in stores because I'm bad at planning ahead vvv

Instant Jellyfish fucked around with this message at 00:20 on Feb 6, 2022

vs Dinosaurs
Mar 14, 2009
probably once you have dropped a grand with them.

Math You
Oct 27, 2010

So put your faith
in more than steel
Just brought home our first baby and our 8 year old dog is very very anxious about it. She wants to sniff and inspect the baby with way too much gusto and whines incessantly.

All interactions have been with a very short leash and we're not giving any opportunity for an accident to happen.

Our current plan is to ride this out until it becomes somewhat normalized and to make sure she's being exposed to all the baby sounds and smells safely. It just sucks because we are no longer able to share the parenting tasks. My partner is doing everything for the baby while I handle the dog full time.

I'm curious if some drugs could help take the edge off the pup while she gets to know her new family member, and was hoping someone ITT might have experience with this. Open to all other suggestions that don't require a time machine.

On the plus side, she has already made some small progress. Last nursing session was observed by a panting (rather than whining) dog who stopped trying to get into their personal space after a couple of corrections.

Edit:

We've all had a bit of sleep now and are doing much better. Puppy has made some strides even if she still has the very annoying need to out-sing the baby when she cries.
Maybe I didn't spend the last 7 years failing this dog after all :unsmith:

Math You fucked around with this message at 20:27 on Feb 7, 2022

Sistergodiva
Jan 3, 2006

I'm like you,
I have no shame.

The Rev posted:

I've got a 5.5 month Greater Swiss Mountain Dog who for the most part is happy and healthy. However once every other week or so at random he will wake us up between 4-6am with loud horking noises which culminate in dry heaving, and very rarely upchucking a small amount of pale brown-colored liquid (bile perhaps?). He's now started doing this every night for the last four nights despite no noticeable change to his diet or lifestyle. He doesn't seem to be in distress afterward and will usually just fall back asleep in a few minutes. He's never done this outside of the 4-6am window.

I'm booked for a vet apt in a week's time, but curious if anyone has ever gone through a similar thing. Again 90% of the time he doesn't barf up anything, once he's barfed up a wrapper he must have eaten on a walk, and 10% of the time it's maybe a teaspoons' worth of pale brown liquid.

Dog Tax:

Did you find anything out?

Coco (7.5 month Westie) has been throwing up or heaving every so often the last weeks.
Had a vet appointment by phone and switched to a special food, but it doesn't seem to have mattered.

Going to book an in person appointment. The other day she played with another dog and ran so hard she puked. This was on an empty stomach. Problem is that she will not eat anything until at least after lunch, so trying to feed her some of her food later in the evening.

uncle blog
Nov 18, 2012

Is mouthing hands and play biting hands during play not considered okay for adult dogs? I’ve never trained my dog not to use his mouth on mynjands during play, and have never considered a bad thing. But I’ve gotten comments from other people suggesting this is something one usually trains the dog not to do. To me it only seemed perfectly natural and fine for him to use his mouth in those kinds of interactions.

Submarine Sandpaper
May 27, 2007


I redirect to toys. Even if you get soft mouth down I don't want them to use it on a kid or someone who may freak the gently caress out.

vs Dinosaurs
Mar 14, 2009

Sistergodiva posted:

Did you find anything out?

Coco (7.5 month Westie) has been throwing up or heaving every so often the last weeks.
Had a vet appointment by phone and switched to a special food, but it doesn't seem to have mattered.

Going to book an in person appointment. The other day she played with another dog and ran so hard she puked. This was on an empty stomach. Problem is that she will not eat anything until at least after lunch, so trying to feed her some of her food later in the evening.

For what it is worth my pup was doing this for several weeks at around the same age. It resolved itself.

cryptoclastic
Jul 3, 2003

The Jesus
When our pup gets very excited or stress her stomach can sort of seize up and not work, which means she ends up puking. She was picked up on the street at 2 months old and then spent another 2 months in the shelter. The result is that she is a very very sensitive dog. Did something exciting or terrifying happen the day before the pukes? Introducing a new kind of treat or chew after stress also caused it sometimes. Our girl is 8 months old now so it happens less, but there was a small period where we had to put her in the vet’s because the puking was stressing her out and created a cycle.

Adrianics
Aug 15, 2006

Affirmative. Yes. Yo. Right on. My man.
Cosmo is going through the biting phase and I loving hate it. He's hyper as gently caress at all hours of the day and cannot be near either of us without nipping at our hands.

He loves my wife and keeps jumping up at her but keeps biting her nose and neck. We keep diverting him to his hundreds of toys but he's not interested.

A temporary phase, I know, but a frustrating one.

Instant Jellyfish
Jul 3, 2007

Actually not a fish.



It's just as normal to be completely frustrated by the biting as it is for a puppy to bite! If they weren't so darn cute we'd never have them.

Don't be afraid to stick your bitey little poo poo in a crate or an ex pen with some toys and take a break. I know everyone says not to use a crate as a punishment but honestly sometimes it's that or you turn them into a rug. My pup went through a phase where she was in and out of the crate so much I should have just installed a revolving door. If you aren't capable of being a domesticated creature instead of a feral hog you get some chill out time to think about it then we can try again. This can also be helpful because sometimes they get wild because they think they can outrun being sleepy and if you just physically restrain them in a crate or a pen or on a leash for a few minutes they pass the gently caress out.

It can also help to make up a big batch of frozen kongs/other stuffed toys once a week so when you're on your last nerve you can just pull one out and get a few minutes of peace. Kong prep is my self care.

AlexDeGruven
Jun 29, 2007

Watch me pull my dongle out of this tiny box


Oh man, Jarvis is mostly past this (1y this coming Thursday), but whoo, the other day he was something.

Oldest took him for a good long walk, like several miles. When he got home he was in that crazy fighting tired mode. Just nutso.

I sat down on the living room floor and grabbed him during one of his lunges, restrained him in my lap for about 10sec and he settled immediately. It was like a light switch.

Adrianics
Aug 15, 2006

Affirmative. Yes. Yo. Right on. My man.

Instant Jellyfish posted:

It's just as normal to be completely frustrated by the biting as it is for a puppy to bite! If they weren't so darn cute we'd never have them.

Don't be afraid to stick your bitey little poo poo in a crate or an ex pen with some toys and take a break. I know everyone says not to use a crate as a punishment but honestly sometimes it's that or you turn them into a rug. My pup went through a phase where she was in and out of the crate so much I should have just installed a revolving door. If you aren't capable of being a domesticated creature instead of a feral hog you get some chill out time to think about it then we can try again. This can also be helpful because sometimes they get wild because they think they can outrun being sleepy and if you just physically restrain them in a crate or a pen or on a leash for a few minutes they pass the gently caress out.

It can also help to make up a big batch of frozen kongs/other stuffed toys once a week so when you're on your last nerve you can just pull one out and get a few minutes of peace. Kong prep is my self care.

Thanks pal, this is great advice and perspective. Cosmo is hella content in his crate and for that reason we've been very reluctant to put him in there for any reason beyond routine/bed time/when we're out, but you aren't the first to suggest a quick timeout if he becomes too much. Generally he's been pretty quick to adapt to what we're telling him is good and what we're telling him is bad, so we'll give it a go next time he's becoming too much :)

edit: uh he went hog wild on my wife ten minutes ago so I put him in his crate, he went straight to sleep and now won't come out. this is like a cheat code

Adrianics fucked around with this message at 11:38 on Feb 13, 2022

Sistergodiva
Jan 3, 2006

I'm like you,
I have no shame.

Coco hates going home. We can do a 1 hour walk with playing in a fenced area where she can run. But as soon as she realizes we are on our way back she will sit down and not move. If I pull enough she gets super pissed and starts biting my shoes and sounding terrible.

Trying to play with her when we get in so she knows the fun is not over when we get in, but she usually just wants to eat, drink and then go to sleep.

Quorum
Sep 24, 2014

REMIND ME AGAIN HOW THE LITTLE HORSE-SHAPED ONES MOVE?

Sistergodiva posted:

Coco hates going home. We can do a 1 hour walk with playing in a fenced area where she can run. But as soon as she realizes we are on our way back she will sit down and not move. If I pull enough she gets super pissed and starts biting my shoes and sounding terrible.

Trying to play with her when we get in so she knows the fun is not over when we get in, but she usually just wants to eat, drink and then go to sleep.

You could try dropping some good treats on the ground where she'll get them as soon as she gets home. If she's at all food motivated she'll pick up pretty quickly that there's good things waiting for her.

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Lpzie
Nov 20, 2006

my puppy understands the barter system. she takes things like my shoes not to chew them but for me to say 'trade' and put some kibbles down. if the trade isn't enough she won't release. when she accepts the trade, she drops the item and waits until i pick it up before getting her treats. we're looking at brochures for Harvard!

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