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2ndclasscitizen
Jan 2, 2009

by Y Kant Ozma Post
Here, have some awesome Sydney rock:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QadRQSATNlE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pyjH9PberZg

What about some absolutely terrible Aussie punk? These guys are loving poo poo:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PXyplMT2dWI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J9-jBticD00

Although you can't go past some chilled out tunes from sleepy Byron Bay:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ITaXZz1x_GM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dNvOVey0MSs

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2ndclasscitizen
Jan 2, 2009

by Y Kant Ozma Post

Count Chocula posted:

Okay, Frenzal are great, so you're implying that Gay Paris are poo poo?

I take it you've never seen Frenzal live, or read an interview of any of them?

2ndclasscitizen
Jan 2, 2009

by Y Kant Ozma Post
If Frenzal aren't calling someone else poo poo, they're usually calling themselves poo poo.

2ndclasscitizen
Jan 2, 2009

by Y Kant Ozma Post
While not all strictly Australian music, this is highly appropriate to the thread: http://www.fasterlouder.com.au/features/29163/Top-25-Best-Recovery-Moments Recovery owned.

Amoeba102 posted:

I first saw those guys last year when they supported Grinspoon. Who have been around for a somewhere between "a while" and "ages". Here's a couple of my favourite album of theirs.
Chemical Heart - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xQ5-Uvtepe8
Lost Control - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YSkd6HJThlo

Oh come on, really? Those are the Grinspoon songs you're gonna post?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8GDGRUtpwmE (Unwritten Law did a pretty good cover of this at Soundwave this year)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dpx0OKZP39w
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UMy0Gu4Ghgs

2ndclasscitizen
Jan 2, 2009

by Y Kant Ozma Post

Gabbleduck posted:

2nd Class Citizen is your name an Area-7 reference?

But of course.

2ndclasscitizen
Jan 2, 2009

by Y Kant Ozma Post

Count Chocula posted:

I saw somebody propose to his girlfriend at their reunion show at the Annandale.

It was touching.

2ndclasscitizen
Jan 2, 2009

by Y Kant Ozma Post

het posted:

Hey so if you're just going to post boatloads of youtube links I'm just going to move this to PYF.

Apologies for the youtube onslaught, somewhat-of-an-effortpost incoming.

2ndclasscitizen
Jan 2, 2009

by Y Kant Ozma Post
Speaking of the Annandale, how about some discussion about something that's basically a constant in the Aussie mucis scene: Venuechat!

This post will probably be quite Sydney-centric so any Melbourne, Brisbane or Perth (looking at you duck) goons who want to chip in please do.

For those who don't know, venues for bands and musicians to play in Australia are constantly coming and going, but with the going part unfortunately happening more and more frequently these days. The Annandale Hotel in Sydney has yet again come close to having to shut up, but it's thankfully looking like their Buy A Brick! campaign (and some timely corporate sponsorship) may have staved off closure for the time being. The Gaelic has just announced no more live bands. The Hopetoun has been gone for about 2(?) years now. Melbourne punters are fighting hard for places to see acts.

There's a multitude of reasons for it. The high cost of venue operation and restrictive liquor licencing often makes venues that want to have bands unprofitable. City councils aren't helping either. Development approval is a long, expensive process, especially in Sydney where our lovely Lord Mayor would really rather you have a nice quiet night and then gently caress off home by midnight. So often only monied hotel developers (Hemmes, I'm looking at you) can get places opened, and you end up with generic renovated old pubs.

Gentrification is another issue. A lot of the areas where the bars that bands play in are older parts of town that are rapidly becoming gentrified, and councils love indulging noise complaints from people who move in next to nightspots. A club on Oxford St recently had to stop having band nights after noise complaints were made. About Oxford St. Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight.

And then there's these bastards:



Pokies. Many many moons ago pubs and clubs used to put on bands to get people in and make money. And then NSW (and I believe Victoria) changed the laws governing them and then pubs and clubs went nuts on them as they are easy, easy money. This is an oft-cited reason for the continued strength of the WA music scene, as IIRC over there pokies are only allowed in the casino. (There's an [b]excellent[/b[ ABC doco about the WA scene, but hosed if I can remember the name of it.)

And of course the general apathy of the public doesn't help.

But never fear, there's usually some sort of silver lining. The Annandale seems to have gotten another chance. The Hi-Fi has opened in Sydney and seems to be getting positive reviews. Merivale has opened a new venue upstairs of The Beresford. And the rally for The Tote and the subsequent SLAM day rally helped force a change in government policy and saved an iconic venue.

2ndclasscitizen
Jan 2, 2009

by Y Kant Ozma Post

Count Chocula posted:

Either you were there with your friends or you're downloading lovely photos I took and uploaded to my site. So congrats to your friends!

I was front and centre getting my skank on for Area-7. The sydgoons are pretty regular gig-goers.

2ndclasscitizen
Jan 2, 2009

by Y Kant Ozma Post
That's because Mess+Noise people are hateful hipster scum for the most part.

2ndclasscitizen
Jan 2, 2009

by Y Kant Ozma Post

Count Chocula posted:

Yep.
Are you going to the Sydney Community Cup this weekend? It seems like a great thing for the scene.

Nah, can't make it. Looks like it should be good fun though.

2ndclasscitizen
Jan 2, 2009

by Y Kant Ozma Post
For the Sydney folks in here, Bodyjar are playing at The Star on April 5 and it's free.

2ndclasscitizen
Jan 2, 2009

by Y Kant Ozma Post

ColtMcAsskick posted:

I'm not a fan of the sound at hordern, also the lack of cheap places to get drunk at before you go is a downer

The sounds there is weird, I was watching Silversun Pickups there and if I had my earplugs in I couldn't hear any guitar, and then if I took them out no vocals, it was odd.

2ndclasscitizen
Jan 2, 2009

by Y Kant Ozma Post

Amoeba102 posted:

Was that when they supported Birds of Tokyo? I don't think I had that problem. And the few times I have been there, I haven't had a problem with sound. I have always been at the back seats though.

Yeah, that was the tour. Although when I saw Bad Religion/NoFX it was fine (and I was probably closer to the stage that time).

2ndclasscitizen
Jan 2, 2009

by Y Kant Ozma Post

ZakAce posted:

Oh, dear. This whole Aussies "adopting" Kiwi singers / bands feels more like you guys stealing our stuff, IMHO. I don't mind Crowded House being called Aussies, because at least they had Aussie people in the band, but people calling (for example) Shihad Aussies just because they're based more in Melbourne nowadays bother me. They came from Wellington, damnit. It's worse when overseas people call Kiwis Aussies, I once read something that said Jack Body (composer) is an Aussie. That person can piss off.

But that's just me. TBH, you guys can have Russell Crowe for all I care.

Just to make you even angrier, Shihad are not just based in Melbourne, IIRC they've all become Australian citizens.

2ndclasscitizen
Jan 2, 2009

by Y Kant Ozma Post
The Presets' show at Sound Relief a couple of years back was amazing. There was a loving off huge storm raging when they came on and people went mental. Also: 1) The singer's wife/girlfriend/partner/whatever is outrageously hot and 2) their daughter is :3: as hell. Sat next to them at a Japanese place on King St and she spent the entire time making faces at me and my friend. True story.

2ndclasscitizen
Jan 2, 2009

by Y Kant Ozma Post

PaoFerro posted:

To be fair, Bluesfest is widely regarded as the most pleasant of the major festivals in Australia. Bluesfest almost doesn't count, it's so much better than all the other festivals.

I don't really like Australian festivals either. Don't get me wrong, I did my share of Splendours, Woodfords and Big Day Outs, but now the festival scene is extremely expensive and filled with people who couldn't give two fucks about the music. Combined with the fact that Australia has too many festivals now, line ups are much poorer compared to 5-10 years ago. Look at the Big Day Out this year. Absolutely garbage.

This is the big problem with festivals in Australia at the moment, people don't go to the see bands, they just go because it's the thing to do. Which I don't get, if you just wanna go get pissed, why would you do it at a music festival when you've gotta line up for an hour to pay $10 for a mid-strength beer?

2ndclasscitizen
Jan 2, 2009

by Y Kant Ozma Post

Count Chocula posted:

I wish I was bumping this thread to tell everyone about Royal Headache's awesome review in Pitchfork or about how good The Smith Street Band were supporting Frank Turner, but I'm actually using it to solicit donations for Blackie from The Hard-Ons. He was bashed by some teenagers last week. There's a news story here that doesn't mention Blackie's musical work: http://www.smh.com.au/nsw/girl-14-and-boy-16-attack-taxi-driver-police-20120518-1yufo.html#ixzz1vNy9mLDs and a benefit concert on Wednesday night at the Sandringham in Newtown, Sydney.

2ndclasscitizen
Jan 2, 2009

by Y Kant Ozma Post

Brown Blitzkrieg posted:

Man, I know where to go to see good music, I remember when 505 was just an apartment in Hibernian House. The problem is that the live music scene is flooded with simple, moronic music, and it encourages people to have poor taste. Last night I saw a band who sang the lyrics "How do you sleep at night, with a monkey on your back and the chip on your shoulder". What I wanted to ask them was "How do you sleep at night when you cram three tired, feeble clichés into one line of your lacklustre chorus in your lovely song?". Then they started screaming something about setting fire to a UFO or something and I just couldn't stop laughing at them. As somebody who is maturing beyond the youthful insolence and short-sightedness of punk and rock, I feel like I am not being catered to nearly enough. Not nearly enough at all. No wonder I know people in their mid-twenties who still like adolescent musical styles, they never get exposed to anything decent.

Not much point in catering to you, your head is clearly so far up your own arse you wouldn't be able to hear the music anyway.

2ndclasscitizen
Jan 2, 2009

by Y Kant Ozma Post
Yeah me too, I'm gonna head along to the free Faker gig on Friday to check it out, pretty keen to see what they've done to the old place. You know somewhere was a bit grim when new toilets are a key point in renovations.

2ndclasscitizen
Jan 2, 2009

by Y Kant Ozma Post
Eh, Faker's stuff might be stupid and Nathan's a massive dick, but it's catchy and their shows are usually pretty good fun and high energy.

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2ndclasscitizen
Jan 2, 2009

by Y Kant Ozma Post
The bank's hardly loving the Sando over. The loan principal is due, owner can't afford it, end of story.

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