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Yayyyy, I love Aurora so much. I'm glad someone else is doing an LP of it so I don't have to! I want us goons to play the UN and I want to nominate myself as a Civilian Administator Edit: If it helps, I'm well versed in this game. The previous LP had me pick this game up and I play alot of it. If the OP wants I can help with Mechanics and helping out
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With the direction that this LP is going, are you going to assign one Civilian Administrator to a Planet or are you going to get us to vote on what we should? If it's the former, would we be President for Life or would you rotate like you would for our Military?
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Mar 25, 2012 08:39
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bgreman posted:Civ administrators have stats that make them more or less suitable for various postings. When a Goon becomes a civ admin, I basically take an existing in-game character and rename it with the Goon's name. It is up to the appropriate policy maker to assign administrators from the Goon pool (or reassign them to new postings as necessary), although as its shaping up right now, it looks like no one is terribly interested in being a policy maker. Oh. I didn't realize we had to say we wanted to be a policy maker. I want to be a policy maker
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Mar 26, 2012 13:30
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Well, it makes ship building far more interesting if you don't understand how to make them. Nothing like building a missile boat and forgetting to put in the firing controls, or putting in a magazine! (I'm not very good at building missile ships). On a totally unrelated note! A vote for Lord Windy is a vote for lasers and the death star!
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Mar 28, 2012 01:19
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I wish I could say the interface was intuitive enough that we don't need info dumps, but you really do need to explain in that much detail otherwise people who don't play the game will have no idea.
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Mar 28, 2012 10:34
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Lord Windy Pistokemisti Jimmy4400nav Ynkling Triskelli Forward to a future full of lasers and Death Stars!
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Mar 29, 2012 01:53
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Red Mike posted:Yes, it can. I'm not even sure the level of the military academy influences anything other than the amount of personnel it spits out. It's best to train them up on Asteroids and moons before sending them to Earth. Primarily this is to ensure that we don't end up with earth just ending up with 100000 extra tonnes of Boronide before concluding that THERE CAN'T POSSIBLY BE ANY MORE MINERALS. Ideally we want to get Corudium up to 250000 with an access of at least 0.6, otherwise we are going to be running into a lot of shortages when it comes to expanding our mining capabilities (this will hurt, believe me)
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Mar 29, 2012 11:57
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Ynkling posted:What do we all feel about ICBMs on the Moon? I like this plan, but I have a few small changes. 1. We replace ICBM with new age weapons 2. We defend those bases with loving HUGE LASERS! 3. Those lasers are actually Meson Cannons Crassus posted:Just imagine the saving on lasers research and wear and tear on assault pods. Pfft, we can't fire rocks at ships.
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Mar 29, 2012 23:17
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I suggest our first action in terms of research will be finalising our theory of Trans Newtonian Physics Than I suggest we focus on building drones equipped with survey equipment and rockets to scout out the major features in the solar system so we can grab the choicest mineral deposits first. Colonisation and Mars should only be considered once we have secured the mineral wealth needed for our industry!
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I can't see why we can't do both. On the home front, focus on converting our industry to specialised Construction, Mining and Fuel/Ordnance while letting Research, Shipping and Ordnance to manufacture and create ships to search the Solar System for the minerals to secure our future. EDIT: Did we want to also look at giving ourselves roles as well as being overall policy makers? I see that Bgreman mentioned it. Like having Jimmy4400nav be head of Industry, Puistokemisti head of Resource Acquisition/Foreign Relation, Myself as Military Operations and Design (GOD-drat SPACE LASERS!), Someone else as Research and Biology (you can manufacture new species) and the other as Commercial Shipping, Design and Transport That way we can vote on big picture things, and then decide on how we want them. We'll still be reliant on eachother, but we won't need to vote on every single thing so things will go faster Lord Windy fucked around with this message at 01:53 on Mar 30, 2012 |
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Ynkling posted:Granted that I don't know that much about the Aurora system and the direction bgreman's wants to take the game yet, but Foreign Relations and Military Ops. seem to be a little too sensitive for the five glorious policy makers to only get a big picture vote on. How about we include the right for any of the five to declare an event or object a point of interest to make it subject to an all inclusive vote? Or something. You have a point with military Ops Why not Defence and Procurement rather than Military Operations and Design That way we still have free reign preparing, but we can't just invade or launch missiles
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Mar 30, 2012 03:42
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Puistokemisti posted:Can you recreate Star Wars-system by slapping some point-defenses into weapon platform? Of course! It's almost my entire plan. Lasers on everything, doesn't matter what they are for, it can do with a laser on it.
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DagPenge posted:Admiral DagPenge DagPenge, a maverick if I have ever seen one! Missiles, really. They are so cold war. We barely even need to them to shoot down other missiles once we have good point defense. I mean seriously, we can just strap some meson cannons to fast fighters while our battleships, escorted by point defence destroyers, play heavy backup. Slaan posted:As lead energy weapons scientist, I can safely say that this is scientifically proven. Lasers do look prettiest when killing things! I foresee someone winning every single noble prize for awhile. Even the peace one.
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Good sir, I'll have you know that while Missiles have their place, Lasers are our speciality. I can assure you, as a matter of course, if I'm elected as UN Head of Defence and Procurement, I will make it an urgent matter to replace our ageing fleet of ICBMs, and to investigate the use of rockets in exploration. But I will not let that get in the way of the Death Star or my dream of weaponsing every possible thing with lasers!
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Alright, so I'm just going to list out our Heads again and see what people think one last time. Head of Industry - Jimmy4400nav Head of Resource Acquisition - Puistokemisti Head of Defense and Procurement - Lord Windy Head of Research and Biology - Ynkling Head of Commercial Shipping, Design and Transport - Triskelli If this is the case, I think we should adopt a wait and see approach for the moment until our Trans Newtonian project is over and then start working out a better plan to nuke commies and weaponise mountains Jimmy could look into building something in 3 months he has, but otherwise there isn't really anything else we can do.
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Run it how you think it should be run. So long as you're keeping a percentage of your industry running towards building more factories and you keep a sizable portion free for orders from the rest of us you can't do much wrong. So really, after we re-organise the conventional industry into post newton physics you might want to look at something like this. 10~20% Industry Construction 20~40% Orders from other departments Rest doing whatever you think we need. You can pause and re-allocate industry on a whim so don't think you need to set anything in stone. EDIT: You won't just be building normal things like Mines and Mass Drivers. You'll be building parts for our shipyards, pre fabricated Planetary Defence Centres and other fun things like that As well, who should be in control of the Ordnance Factories and eventually Fighter Factories? Industry or Defence? The only things you can make with them will be missiles, fighters and occasionally peaceful rockets and drones Lord Windy fucked around with this message at 04:49 on Mar 31, 2012 |
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berryjon posted:FROM: the Desk of Commander berryjon, United Nations Ground Forces FROM: The Desk of Lord Windy, Director of Defence and Procurement TO: BERRYJON CC: Head of R&B, Executive Council I personally agree that the first should be our major focus of our entire Research Branch for the time being. Trans-Newtonian Elements are vital to our continued survival and in the coming arms race. But as for Orbital Habitats, the answer is not as clear cut. The military applications are not as important as it is for the Commercial sector. My own focus at this point, and I hope you agree, is to get a new generation of engines and upgrade our ICBMs and a way of deflecting incoming missiles. Ships come a close second FROM: The Desk of Lord Windy, Director of Defence and Procurement TO: Executive Council I have two matters I wish to bring to the council MOVEMENT: Development of a new generation of engines I feel it is in the best interest of the UN for us to focus at least 75% of our labs on researching a new engine class. If we want to keep one step ahead of the commies, than we need to get faster ships and better deterrents. MOVEMENT: Development of new age weapons I don't think that we should focus all our research into building new weapons at the expense of the rest of the UN. But I do think we should look at maintaining a certain level of our labs at building new weapons. I think we should focus 25% of our Labs on building new weapons for the UN FROM: The Desk of Lord Windy, Director of Defence and Procurement TO: Department of Defence and Procurement Orders: 1. For the current moment, set our commanders to rotating 6 month assignments. This is only a temporary measure until the Executive Council decides if it wants to go another path or decide to give discretion over to the Department of Defence and Procurement 2. Set the Naval Shipyard to continually expand the maximum tonnage it can construct. As far as I can see as head of defence this comes under my umbrella.
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Nobel Prize for Appropriate Use of Lasers Reason: "greatest benefit on mankind" in use of Laser Weaponry either offensively or defensively Promotion value: 1500 (is this appropriate?) Lord Windy fucked around with this message at 14:43 on Mar 31, 2012 |
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Ynkling posted:FROM: Head of I should clarify, I meant after we finished Trans Newtonian Elements
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FROM: The Desk of Lord Windy, Director of Defence and Procurement TO: UNEC I would like to see this proposal taken to the Council for mediation and voting Proposal to be voted upon Proposal: Mandate for the Department of Defence and Procurement to act upon the newly devised Heavy Fire Doctrine of the UN Interplanetary Navy Gentleman and possible Ladies of the Council. I bring this proposal to you today, not because we are at crossroads and must decide, but because we have the time to carefully plan for the future. The proposal I bring to you today, lays the foundation towards the UN heading in the direction of specialised craft designed for particular roles in our new Navy. From fast, lightly armoured fighters designed to destroy internal components of our enemy vessels to massive, heavy armoured battleships equipped with missiles and long ranged laser weaponry to destroy those our fighters have left behind. Our eventual goal, is to create a fleet focused on the massed firepower of Lasers rather than long ranged missiles. Ideally we would be looking at. Large Ships Battleship - BB - Aforementioned ships specialising in heavy weaponry and armour for protracted battles. Mainstay of Sector Defence Carrier - CV - Laser point defence and the pack mule for our (hopefully large) fighter squadrons Battlecruiser - BC - Lighter and faster than the BB, designed to be massed produced and the mainstay of our defence fleets. Medium Ships Anti-Air Cruiser - CLAA - Point Defence. Designed entirely to destroy incoming fighters and missiles. Equipped with small missiles and laser turrets. Escort Carrier - CVE - Filler role, cheap and designed to be massed produced Missile Cruiser - CAG - Missile Cruiser, designed entirely around the concept of missiles firing Light Ships Destroyer - DD - Escorts with Point Defence and lasers Gunboat - K - Less than 1000 tonnes. Basically fast ships designed to be ferried around by Carriers and brought into battle with our fighters. Fighters Meson Fighter - MF - Totes Meson cannons, lightly armoured and fast Laser Fighter - LF - More in the anti-fighter role, totes a laser instead Bomber - B - Carries a special short range missile type. Designed to deliver a payload and get in and out in a hurry. Support Will be constructed and designed as needed Now, how do we get to the point where we can use said ships? Step 1: Focus on building gunboats to begin with. Fast and armed with Meson Cannons, it's an all purpose ship. If the enemy shows a focus on using missiles, than we also create a second class designed entirely on countering said missiles Else we focus on countering whatever they bring up first, even if it's a counter to our own ship Step 2: Finish all of step 1 and begin building our industry towards producing the first generation of CVE and fighters. If the enemy shows signs of more missiles, focus at the same time on construction of CLAA Else If the enemy is very light on point defense, move towards building CAGs Else we build BCs Step 3: Complete all ship types in Step 2 and then move onto CVs and BBs At all stages, this plan can be modified if need arises and intel changes. This plan does not look at the specialised needs of Planatary Defence that we may encounter. That will be handled by other mandates. With this Mandate also comes with certain measures 1. All department heads will work towards fulfilling this Mandate under the instruction of the Department of Defence and Procurement so long as the support does not cause them to fail to meet their own goals and mandates. 2. Changing the Mandate and it's conditions requires a 3/5 vote from the UNEC 3. Particulars involving ship design comes under umbrella of the Department of Defence and Procurement 4. The Department of Commercial Shipping, Design and Transport may be called upon to help construct larger support vessels that the Naval Shipyards can't grow to construct and is expected to help in any way possible so long as it does not jeopardize their own plans and mandates 5. In the event of catastrophic wartime losses, the Doctrine will be subject to a vote of confidence by the UNEC. Votes 2/5 and higher is classed as no confidence. For the purposes of the plan, the 2/5 condition is only considered when the plan has reached Step 2, otherwise it requires 3/5 Please let me know what you think. Voting starts in (is this appropriate?) 24 hours.
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Puistokemisti posted:TO: Lord Windy Quite simply, they don't. I'm not saying I won't use them, but the Doctrine is based entirely on trying to build an interplanetary navy around an ideal. I just don't want to heap too much into one article and have it try to encompass our entire military. We very may well have a second class of ships specifically made to stay around one planet and not be used for fleet to fleet combat. As soon as TNE is finished and we have a new engine, sensors and a few things under our belt I will completely redesign our PDCs and ICBMs into something new age. Not to mention I want to look into stationary fortresses as well as PDCs as a big part of our Planetary Defences. And since I don't foresee us using boarding ships as the main part of our fleet, I didn't include it in the fleet.
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Ynkling posted:FROM: Head of Jimmy4400nav posted:From: U.N Industrial Command From: Department of Defence and Procurement C.C UNEC R.E: Heavy Fire Doctrine I can see a desire to make sure we focus on Carriers. Like I said in the plan, if it ends up being Carriers that win the most battles than we will have more of those. But we made end up needing BBs as much as we need Carriers. Not mention, BBs don't take all that long to build. We use industry to pre-fabricate all the modules and our shipyards assemble them. Generally we can construct most ships in under 12 months. Of course with smaller ships, you wouldn't bother unless you had a massive need to construct them faster. Triskelli posted:FROM: U.N. Head of CSDT FROM: Department of Defence and Procurement C.C.: all R.E.: Open Letter on Shipbuilding Just so you know, our shipyards are separate and I wouldn't dream of stepping on your toes when it comes to securing resources. Not mention my needed research won't be developed by the time you're exploring the stars
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Jimmy4400nav posted:They were relative to the 42% that is free, although once my current projects are complete, can the freed up production capacity then be assigned to the CI conversion projects? Hi Jimmy, I really recommend, rather than building Fighter Factories which we can't use for quite awhile, that we instead build ordnance factories that we can use
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Jimmy4400nav posted:Are you sure? Do you want me to split between fighters and ordinance, or do you want just ordinance, because while yes we can use fighters for a while, I'd like to have the industry in place the day we have the research, rather than build after we have the research. Just Ordanance, we have to build hangers and figher engines (both 10000rp plus) before we get to build them. By that time we can spare the industry or might even have a brand new planet just for the military
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Puistokemisti posted:FROM: Resource Acquisition FROM: The Desk of Lord Windy, Director of Defence and Procurement TO: R&D CC: UNEC I like Geological Survey Sensors, but I think we should research Pressurised Water Reactors at the same time. Like a 50/50 split, and onto Thermal Nuclear Missiles and Thermal Nuclear Engines after it is done. And if at all possible, can we grab Duranium Armour with it all? FROM: The Desk of Lord Windy, Director of Defence and Procurement TO: UNEC Voting will begin on Proposal: Mandate for the Department of Defence and Procurement to act upon the newly devised Heavy Fire Doctrine of the UN Interplanetary Navy I vote Yes Special consideration: Focus will be given to Carriers over Battleships while we construct the fleet
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berryjon posted:Last I checked, I was the highest ranked Ground Forces Officer, and while I don't get any of those shiny Naval thingamajigs, I do contribute! FROM: The Desk of Lord Windy, Director of Defence and Procurement TO: Colonel berryjon I will certainly look into building troop ships as needed. But as we don't have at the moment a shipyard big enough to build them, we can safely look at other options first. FROM: The Desk of Lord Windy, Director of Defence and Procurement TO: UNEC I politely request that Berryjon be considered commander of the ground forces of Earth for the foreseeable future. Including the current generation of ICBM facilities but excluding the new ones that are under development at my department He will be required to bring all material requests up to my department for consideration and to aid in the procurement of extra material for the armed forces. EDIT: I suppose I should still be considered Commander of the Armed forces entirely and can still order everyone around, but because my attention is on the Navy and Planetary Defence it's best to have someone else request materials so I don't abandon the Ground Forces all together Lord Windy fucked around with this message at 05:02 on Apr 4, 2012 |
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SPERMCUBE.ORG posted:FROM: The Tank of SPERMCUBE.ORG Well, I love the enthusiasm. But I'm going to politely decline the idea. I'm not ok with the amount of resources required to get it going or the fact that I would be blowing up our own nation in the process of defending it Note to everyone else: I'm going to develop a new missile type as soon as we're done with the research and maybe even a new PDC. But really for a PDC I want meson cannons for added defence.
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Jimmy4400nav posted:From U.N Industrial Command I've already set my order for the factory to continually expand. Once it gets to 2000 or so we can switch to expanding the slipways
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FROM: The Desk of Lord Windy, Director of Defence and Procurement TO: UNEC Hello again gentlemen, I would like to discuss the next proposal in a long line of projects that will never end~ Mandate for the Defence of Earth This mandate comes in three parts 1. Construction of the first UN army 2. Construction of new PDC centres 3. Foreign Relations Part 1 For the moment, we have a stalemate. ICBMs assure mutual destruction if we were to ever go to war. And there would be no-way we could complete an evacuation of earth by that time. Therefore our peace is guaranteed for the time being But soon, we will have new weapons and facilities which negate this risk, and our old armies may become liabilities. So instead, I wish for a UN army to be created. Based around 3 ground units 1. Garrison Troops - To defend the land 2. Heavy Assault Troops - To lead the offence 3. Marines - To take the battle to the skies Part 2 Construction of a new suite of PDC facilities to replace our ICBMs. These will have new ICBMs made with TNE and point defence Meson Cannons and anti-missile missiles Part 3 Creation of a more formal embassy to the Federation to discuss things like 'harmony' and 'a greater peace.' Lets hope we can avoid embarrassing ourselves by using the right spoon.
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FROM: The Desk of Lord Windy, Director of Defence and Procurement TO: UNEC What should our response be? I feel we should make simple diplomatic overtures to the Federation and congratulate them on the creation of a new space fairing ship, while we bide our time while we research better engines, missiles and armour. There is no point in wasting valuable resources in trying to one up them now. Better to wait for an actual tactical advantage. In the meantime, I feel that we should continue our current research goals, but after this is complete begin the basics for meson cannons and thermal nuclear engines and the missile equivalent rather than going to commercial research so we can get proper PDC and point defence going. But most importantly, we need to look at active sensors as well. Even just a simple one FROM: The Desk of Lord Windy, Director of Defence and Procurement TO: The Hospital Bed of SPERMCUBE.ORG I for one, want to apologise to you first. We should have informed you that we use veterans with PTSD to man our kitchens at all our ICBM facilities. If you had known, you might have avoided the loss of all that blood and still have the ability to procreate when you went to order a sandwich. A deep shame. However, your valiant efforts are not in vain. I will ensure that we look at constructing some form of extra defences at our secret facilities
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Puistokemisti posted:FROM: Resource Acquisition FROM: The Desk of Lord Windy, Director of Defence and Procurement TO: UNEC You have a good point. We need to get a Commercial Ship going and collecting resources. But I also think we need to focus on getting some form of defence for ourself, so how about this as priority 1. Finish current research 2. Spit between Active Sensors and Engines 3. Split between Meson Cannon, Missile Engines Once we have that, we can take the star, and the priorities work for both commercial and defensive aspirations
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FROM: The Desk of Lord Windy, Director of Defence and Procurement TO: Everyone RE: Colonization This is not my department, I know, but I do not think we should bother just yet with colonisation. Once we have a proper survey of the system out, THEN we can look at claiming our choicy parts, and by then we will have access to Naval vessels capable of holding territory. Besides, we don't even know if the Moon even has minerals, it could just be a barren rock that we would be responsible for maintaining and defending. It's just a PR stunt, don't let it get in your grills. We didn't waste our shipyard in building a useless ship and we aren't going to.
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An engine and colonist tubes basically You could just get away with massive luxury liners -> I used to joke that my luxury liners were faster than my warships in my own games because they had nothing but an engine and cabin
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ROM: The Desk of Lord Windy, Director of Defence and Procurement TO: UNEC I've been thinking about this (big surprise!) and I think there is one thing that could really help us on earth and should be considered. Earth System Neutrality Treaty Basically, what I was thinking off is that we protect earth and our assets by making Earth a safe zone for both the Federation and the UN. Obviously it would be daft to try and cover the hole Solar System at this point, and we made need to let off steam in small skirmishes but this way Earth would be safe. So what we would be looking at: 1. No building new military ground units on Earth. We can keep our current generation of low tech units for training purposes and historical purposes, but no post TNE weaponry. 2. Dismantle our store of ICBMs and demilitarise our PDC bases. Basically we would use them for training purposes 3. Construction of 1 new PDC to house an Active Sensor on both sides as an early warning safety system. This can be upgraded at will 4. Move our military facilities off planet by 2040 or earlier. This includes Naval Shipyards, Ordinance Factories and Fighter Factories 5. Leave the Moon largely uninhabited. Automated mines are fine on both sides. Mat 6. No military class ships allowed past the Moon Orbit past 2040 7. Military Conflict happening outside of Earth will not spill over to earth What do you all think? It's certainly another way of avoiding our birthplace from being destroyed
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The_White_Crane posted:Well, I've finally caught up with this. It made my brain hurt. I like the cut of this man's gib. Respectful and by the books!
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FROM: The Desk of Lord Windy, Director of Defence and Procurement TO: UNEC I would like to see those 4 labs go into researching Active Sensors. We will need to them to make targeting systems for our firing controls and to actively locate incoming ships and missiles As for the Moon. No building anything on that godless rock until we've had a chance to discuss the possibility of a treat with them. If there are minerals, I suggest only civilian mining or automatic.
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FROM: The Desk of Lord Windy, Director of Defence and Procurement TO: UNEC Two things. 1. There will be no official comment on the death of Chinese agents found looking through our R&D labs. We will take a Sunshine policy on this development, until such time as we can protect or at least live without earth, we will let the Federation get away with all but hostilities. 2. I am lodging my official disapproval of the Luna Colony. I think this is a stupid waste of resources and completely pointless. I would prefer we look towards Mars or Titan where we don't waste anywhere near as much resources and we can at least make it more habitual faster and we have a greater chance of resources there.
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Ynkling posted:Can I get Cryogenics with Euminedes for 4 labs? That's a great idea
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Veloxyll posted:From: CMDR Veloxyll I think as soon as the engines are completed, we want to build a military and commercial version of them. It's important as well to build Active Sensors, instead of Gravtic Sensors or Alpha shields the 10 should go to Active Sensor
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