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Ynkling
Mar 22, 2012

For these reasons I vote for granting UN membership to our moon.
Let's force our name on the rest of the world as the U.N., and I'd like to be an extrasolar Civilian Administrator of some future colony.

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Ynkling
Mar 22, 2012

For these reasons I vote for granting UN membership to our moon.
:bandwagon:

Whoever fights monsters should see to it that in the process he does not become a monster, unless the bribe's good enough. I want to be a Policy maker, too, if at all possible.

Ynkling
Mar 22, 2012

For these reasons I vote for granting UN membership to our moon.
I feel that the more information we get the better we'll be able to give meaningful input. Please keep it up!

Unrelated: A vote for Ynkling is a vote for doing anything and everything to bootstrap the world industry to mine, refine, and distribute Sorium so I don't have to pay a fortune refueling my SUV. SUV's for everybody!

Ynkling
Mar 22, 2012

For these reasons I vote for granting UN membership to our moon.


My votes (thank God I can vote for myself):
Ynkling Wrestles bears and enjoys exploiting natural resources
Jimmy4400nav A focus on Industry
Lord Windy Lasers and deathstars
A Rich White Man this is a name that I can get behind
Pistokemisti Because America

edit: I'm bad good at images

Ynkling fucked around with this message at 02:30 on Mar 29, 2012

Ynkling
Mar 22, 2012

For these reasons I vote for granting UN membership to our moon.

Triskelli posted:

MARTIANS

Humane working conditions only apply to humans, right? Because I have some ideas.

Ynkling
Mar 22, 2012

For these reasons I vote for granting UN membership to our moon.

quote:

...a dedicated geological survey team might be able to find new deposits or discover better access routes to existing deposits. It was suggested that such a team be organized as soon as enough trained personnel were available.

The level 1 military academy we have can produce these, correct? I'm sure that this will be covered in due time, but with these dense updates it might be good to get some preliminary ideas out there.

Ynkling
Mar 22, 2012

For these reasons I vote for granting UN membership to our moon.

Triskelli posted:

...I want us to get a geosurvey ship to Mars as soon as we can. Mainly to fufill the dreams of myself and people everywhere, but also because there's always SOMETHING on Mars to find. In every work of fiction there's some ruins or abandoned installation that lets us jump straight into the galactic stage.

All planets and moons in near Earth orbit will likely be prime real estate, strategically speaking, and perhaps especially Mars because it might serve as a colony to drive some of those nice manual mines.

What do we all feel about ICBMs on the Moon?

Ynkling
Mar 22, 2012

For these reasons I vote for granting UN membership to our moon.
I'm not paid to think, I'm paid to...


Let's move on.

So the chief mode of movement of supplies over large distances is with mass drivers (?), and these work better when there's one on receiving end as well as the supplying end. An automated mine and a mass driver on the moon might be useful, therefore, for accepting mineral packets from the solar system (lightening our future Earth-bound mass drivers' work load), and sending packets to the Eurasian Federation.

Can mass drivers be sabotaged?

Ynkling
Mar 22, 2012

For these reasons I vote for granting UN membership to our moon.

bgreman posted:

Mass driver impacts, like nuclear explosions, cause dust and radiation to spread on the entire system body, not just the target population.

The more I think about this, the more I want to know about alternative modes of warfare in Aurora. Alternatives that don't turn my backyard into an irradiated hell-hole. I suppose the question is if we want to pursue a hostile attitude towards the Eurasian Federation or try peaceful coexistence, or to simply bide our time.

I agree with Jimmy4400nav that procuring the lion's share of TNE's in the solar system, and that quickly, is possibly the highest priority.

Slaan posted:

1. Move to Mars
2. Destroy Earth
3. Profit

This is certainly an idea. Probably not a good one.

Ynkling
Mar 22, 2012

For these reasons I vote for granting UN membership to our moon.
I am a fan of the new system as proposed by Lord Windy, and should we decide to take it up I'd like to take over the mantle of making newer and better tasting cats Research and Biology.

Granted that I don't know that much about the Aurora system and the direction bgreman's wants to take the game yet, but Foreign Relations and Military Ops. seem to be a little too sensitive for the five glorious policy makers to only get a big picture vote on. How about we include the right for any of the five to declare an event or object a point of interest to make it subject to an all inclusive vote? Or something.

Ynkling
Mar 22, 2012

For these reasons I vote for granting UN membership to our moon.
It might just be best to streamline the voting process as the need arises - there's not been a single non-tutorial update yet!

Ynkling
Mar 22, 2012

For these reasons I vote for granting UN membership to our moon.
I agree with Puistokemisti that TN Tech should be on the top of the list. Unfortunately we don't have a scientist with this as his/her specialty, so the top bonus we can hope for is 20% with Slaan or Donnie Dominy, of whom only Slaan can wrangle more than five labs to be productive. (I read that part right, right?)

I propose that we put Slaan in charge of Trans-Newtonian Technology with access to all 25 of our labs.

Ynkling
Mar 22, 2012

For these reasons I vote for granting UN membership to our moon.

bgreman posted:

:siren:Executive Council Voting Is Over!:siren:

:regd08:

On a more serious note, the game that bgreman's setting up feels very thought out and detailed in the way it spells out a new cold war. There are two power blocs with very strained relations, and the only true deterrent for war are the many ICBMs and the doctrine of mutually assured destruction. From what I've read of the Trans-Newtonian Elements and related technologies, this delicate power balance will shift, placing us on the very precipice of complete annihilation.

These early days of innovation will be critical and I urge caution and reason lest we have to move to Mars while we wait for the chlorine to be scrubbed from the atmosphere and the radiation subside to survivable levels.

Ynkling
Mar 22, 2012

For these reasons I vote for granting UN membership to our moon.
FROM: Head of R&B
TO: UNSAAB
CC: Executive Council

Give me an estimated time of completion of Dr. Slaan's Trans-Newtonian Elements project should we transfer access of 5 of his 25 labs for Dr. Eumenides to research Orbital Habitats.

End message.

From: Head of R&B
To: Executive Council

"Head of R&B"? Who the hell thought of this?! I'm changing it to "Research and Development". You guys suck. Seriously.

End message.

Ynkling
Mar 22, 2012

For these reasons I vote for granting UN membership to our moon.
FROM: Head of R&B R&D
TO: UNEC

Dr. Slaan's TNE research is too important, and furthermore, it is a bottleneck for all of our future endeavors. I'm giving him access to all of our labs for his project. Lasers and engines matter little if we cannot make proper use of those new magical rocks Trans-Newtonian Elements.

Ynkling
Mar 22, 2012

For these reasons I vote for granting UN membership to our moon.
FROM: Head of R&B R&D
CC: UNEC
RE: Heavy Fire Doctrine

I have had little military training, but I have a concern regarding this plan. Battleships represent a major investment in time, resources, and most importantly industrial assets, and as soon as they are launched will likely be outdated. A shift in focus to Carriers, which although beholden to the same limitations, carry easily mass-produced and upgraded fighters. Shifting around newer generation fighters to Carriers would mean that they stay relevant for longer in the Fleet, something that is doubly important now that every ton we send up to orbit represents a major investment.

What do the other Heads suggest?

end message

FROM: Head of R&B R&D
TO: Civil Administrators Office
CC: UNEC

Give Mr. Farecoal's credentials a once over. Give him the position should he check out.

end message

Ynkling
Mar 22, 2012

For these reasons I vote for granting UN membership to our moon.



~~~

FROM: Dept. of R&B R&D
CC: all
RE: Open Letter on Shipbuilding

Priorities for the first ships or drones will be to map TNE deposits in the Solar System and to find any other anomalies. The cheaper and faster we can do this, the better. Perhaps the best way of accomplishing this will be with untold drones, though I am no expert in shipbuilding.

Ynkling
Mar 22, 2012

For these reasons I vote for granting UN membership to our moon.

quote:

Naming convention

I suggest mountains of the Antarctic. Nice and neutral and one's Mt. Terror :black101:

Ynkling
Mar 22, 2012

For these reasons I vote for granting UN membership to our moon.
FROM: UN Dept. of R&B R&D
ATTN: UNEC, UNCA (that's YOU, Mr. Farecoal), UNSAAB, Dr. Slaan, assorted people on my mailing list

TNE Technologies: The Next Step

We have five scientists with the requisite clearance levels and twenty-five research labs, totalling 5000 base "Research Points." This will be the forum for discussing their use.

What I am the most interested in is creating an acceptable trade between keeping our military up to date and our industrial sector expanding. I will list out priorities and suggestions here before I parcel out our R&D resources for the next quarter. I will amend these lists as suggestions come up.

Priorities
  • Survey Solar System for TNE
  • Create a deterrent for Eurasian aggression
  • Claim and develop strategic planets/moons/asteroids

Recommendations
  • Dr. Slaan: Laser Focal size

I'm sure we'll all have more to add when UNSAAB releases Part IIb.

Ynkling
Mar 22, 2012

For these reasons I vote for granting UN membership to our moon.
FROM: Dept. of R&B R&D
RE: Heavy Fire Doctrine

Yes.


FROM: Dept. of R&B R&D
TO: UNSAAB
CC: UNEC

bgreman posted:





Can we juggle PP and SF around so that they complete at around the same time?

Ynkling
Mar 22, 2012

For these reasons I vote for granting UN membership to our moon.
FROM: Director Ynkling, Dept. of R&B R&D
TO: CO 55 LTA
CC: Lord Windy
RE: Ground Forces Doctrine


quote:

What kind of land doctrine can we develop?
Are we going to go with Jomini or Clausewitz

Whichever one that will convince you to be cryogenically flash frozen with untested Trans-Newtonian technology, packaged into a nondescript tube among countless others and transported somewhere in the Solar System, and then revived after an indeterminable amount time to see if it works and then

My secretary just told me that we should use untrained civilians to test this on rather than trained personnel. I have sent your question on to Lord Windy, Director of Defense and Procurement.

Ynkling
Mar 22, 2012

For these reasons I vote for granting UN membership to our moon.
FROM: Head of R&D
TO: UNEC, Spacebook contacts
RE: Space Race


Did anybody else see the Kapitan give a smug smirk when he declared that they came in peace? I sure as hell did, and I didn't like it one bit. Can anybody guess at its operational range? It would be glorious if we could be the first men to fist pump on Pluto, blasting ACDC on an old boombox. Maybe with some photoshopped palm trees and some babes, though they'd need to be in those clunky space suits. Think about it.

Duranium armor - do we need it? If we could get away without it and instead push through those TNE sensors we could get up there faster.

Ynkling
Mar 22, 2012

For these reasons I vote for granting UN membership to our moon.

SPERMCUBE.ORG posted:

FROM: The Hospital Bed of SPERMCUBE.ORG
...

And then, while all this is going on, we build some mass drivers, mines, and infrastructure on earth. We contract out the transport of those to the moon and then leave the settling to our commercial sector. It won't be fast but it costs us very little to start. And by the time a survey of the moon is completed our people will be in place to exploit all the resources up there. And the best part is showing up the Federation big time.

FROM: Head of R&D
CC: UNEC, Spacebook contacts
RE: The Moon


There appears to be very little UN effort involved for getting a base on the moon with this plan. I'm ordering a feasibility study to be made on this by people who know what they're doing (Not Mr. Farecoal).

Ynkling
Mar 22, 2012

For these reasons I vote for granting UN membership to our moon.
FROM: Director Ynkling, Dept. of R&D
TO: UNSAAB, UNSA
CC: UNEC


Divide Dr. MagicBoots' resources and labs between Dr. Slaan and Dr. Barrelfox for the purposes of speeding their respective projects up.

Ynkling
Mar 22, 2012

For these reasons I vote for granting UN membership to our moon.
FROM: Director Ynkling, Dept. of R&D
TO: UNEC
CC: CO of the 57th LTA "Think Tanks" No I won't write his name because it's filthy, SpaceBook contacts
RE: The Moon


UNSAAB estimates a needed 9'175 tons of colonization infrastructure per million colonists, of which 2'500 tons cost 2 tons of Duranium. Our total cost in Duranium per million colonists, therefore, is 7.34 tons. Like the CO of the 57th LTA said, this isn't a prohibitive number.

I am ensorcelled by this idea, but as I've said before, I have no mind for military strategy or spaceship design. In about three months our reactor and survey sensors will complete and we'll be busy creating a survey ship; if, and only if, there is a way to create a bodunk freighter that won't interfere with our survey of the solar system, I say we take it.

Do we have any bodunk freighter engineers?

Ynkling
Mar 22, 2012

For these reasons I vote for granting UN membership to our moon.
From: Director Ynkling, Dept. of R&D
To: UNSAAB
RE: Research Facilities


Push through Pratt and Whitney's design under Dr. MagicBoots.

Ynkling
Mar 22, 2012

For these reasons I vote for granting UN membership to our moon.
Can I get Cryogenics with Euminedes for 4 labs?

This way we can keep our big two research projects finish at the same time all neat and pretty like and get a leg up into freezing dudes and potentially waking them up or whatever I really skimmed that part.


edit: we already got Duranium!

Ynkling
Mar 22, 2012

For these reasons I vote for granting UN membership to our moon.
FROM: Councillor Ynkling, Dept. of R&D
RE: Research goals



CMDR Veloxyll's proposal looks good to me! Great initiative there, creating a detailed list of labs and scientists.

Ynkling
Mar 22, 2012

For these reasons I vote for granting UN membership to our moon.
FROM: Councillor Ynkling, Dept. of R&D
RE: New Research Goals


Permission granted. There I said the words nicely can you put the gun down no- [intelligible, followed by sounds of a struggle before the recording is turned off]

Very clearly a different voice speaking with a heavy Russian accent:

I was making joke. No guns. Uhhhhh yeee-haw cowboy playtime is over. No need to investigate private office, unless to bring up sandwiches and vodka. And five glasses.

[muffled scream in the background is heard before the recording cuts off]

Ynkling
Mar 22, 2012

For these reasons I vote for granting UN membership to our moon.
If we convert the conventional industry to TNE industry, will the other convertions go faster in turn?

Ynkling
Mar 22, 2012

For these reasons I vote for granting UN membership to our moon.
FROM: Councillor Ynkling, Dept. of R&D
RE: Even More Research


Since we have two expert on Sensor / Fire Control Research projects, let's get those active sensors everybody's talking about a shot. Since Dr. Barrelfox scored higher on his high school SAT's than Dr. Scribbleykins, the job's his.

10 labs for Active Grav Sensor Strength 10 under Dr. Barrelfox


Sorry, Dr. Scribbleykins; maybe next time you won't have done worse than Dr. Barrelfox on your SAT's.

Ynkling
Mar 22, 2012

For these reasons I vote for granting UN membership to our moon.
What are our next big research goals? As far as I can tell, we are in dire need of the following:

  • Survey ship
    Surveying the outer solar system.
  • A capable freight ship
    Transporting mines/infrastructure/other to the whole solar system and gathering the filthy lucre for Earth consumption
  • A capable specialist/colonist ship
    Transporting corpsicles or specialists to places
  • Military ???


Do we have the technology for these things? I'm tired of making uninformed decisions!

Ynkling
Mar 22, 2012

For these reasons I vote for granting UN membership to our moon.
FROM: Ynkling, Dept. R&D
RE: Research orders


Based on new information I'd like to change our research priorities to the following:

15 labs:
PP: Nuclear Thermal Engine Technology
Dr. Slaan

The most important bit, needed for Survey ships.

3 labs:
LG: Cryogenic Transport
Dr. Eumenides

5 labs:
LG: Cargo Handling
Dr. Magicboots

2 labs:
Active Sensors
Dr. Barrelfox


Assign Dr. Slaan's labs to Dr. Magicboots when the Nuclear engine is finished, and then to Dr. Eumenides as the Cargo handling is complete.

Is it possible to change the lead scientist of a project before the project finishes?

Ynkling
Mar 22, 2012

For these reasons I vote for granting UN membership to our moon.
+1 for Moonbase Alpha. Acceptable modification: Moonburg Alpha



FROM: Ynkling, Dept. of R&D
RE: Research orders


Upon completion of the new engine, shift Dr. Eumenides to the Cargo Handling project with 15 labs, Dr. Magicboots to the Cryogenics project with 5, and give Dr. Barrelfox three more labs to a total of five.

On an unrelated note it is my recommendation that we send Dr. Scribbleykins to the moon.

Ynkling
Mar 22, 2012

For these reasons I vote for granting UN membership to our moon.
If you send a xeno team to check out ruins do you then gain possession of the ones you uncover?

Ynkling
Mar 22, 2012

For these reasons I vote for granting UN membership to our moon.
FROM: Ynkling, Dept. of R&D
RE: Mars


They said I was crazy when I said that Atlantis was real and also on Mars, but who's crazy now?!?!

Judging by the amount of pokes I'm getting on SpaceBook, everybody else is as excited as I am. Like Lord Windy said, we need to get to that city and claim the hell out of it.
I don't think that we should claim the entirety of Mars, however, especially since we have no space military assets.

I do believe that we should get a xeno team there on the double, followed by some ground troops to enforce our claim. I put forward the suggestion of the CO of the 57 LTA "Think Tanks" in regards to how to get them there.

Revised Research Order:

Give Dr. Slaan access to all 25 of our labs for his power plant project. Upon completion direct Dr. Slaan to design some military engines based on his previous project with the full 25 labs.

When the power plant and military engines are completed, give Dr. Eumenides 15 labs to look into automated Cargo Handling systems, Dr. Magicboots 10 labs for the Cryogenics project, and Dr. Barrelfox 5 labs for his research into Active Sensors.

Edit: Yes I did

Ynkling fucked around with this message at 07:13 on Apr 16, 2012

Ynkling
Mar 22, 2012

For these reasons I vote for granting UN membership to our moon.
bgreman I edited my post above to account for the extra 5 labs.



The alignment of Mars and Earth combined with the bodunk nature of the York make me vote for designing a new craft with TNE engines, like SPERMCUBE.ORG said. It feels like a waste to limit it to a simple ferrying role, though.

Ynkling
Mar 22, 2012

For these reasons I vote for granting UN membership to our moon.
FROM: Ynkling, Dept. R&D

Research Directives


After this recent push for base logistical technology, I am finally authorizing a perfunctory look into military applications of the TNEs. More specifically, we will be looking into meson cannons, missiles, and ground forces.

As labs become available from completed projects, assign them as per the following:

5 labs for Dr. Slaan: 10cm Meson Focal Size

15 labs for Dr. Eumenides: Engineer Brigade

5 labs for Dr. Barrelfox: Fire Control Speed Rating 2000 km/s


If anybody has any suggestions on how to make better use of our R&D assets, do not hesitate to speak up.

Ynkling fucked around with this message at 22:03 on Apr 17, 2012

Ynkling
Mar 22, 2012

For these reasons I vote for granting UN membership to our moon.
I edited the Research Directive.

We should likely also mobilize a diplomatic team to decrease tensions with the Eurasian Federation, and to look into the feasibility of eventually forming some lopsided trade agreements.

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Ynkling
Mar 22, 2012

For these reasons I vote for granting UN membership to our moon.
FROM: Ynkling
Updated Research Directives


October is too long a time to be waiting for the logistical technologies related to Cargo Handling, so as soon as assigned labs are freed up, assign them to Dr. Eumenides.

When his research finishes, assign our R&D resources as follows:

5 labs for Dr. Slaan: 10cm Meson Focal Size

15 labs for Dr. Eumenides: Engineer Brigade

5 labs for Dr. Barrelfox: Beam Fire Control Distance Rating

RE: Updated Ship Designs

Keep in mind that Cryogenics and Cargo Handling will be developed in early August and a month or so after, respectively. I'm not too familiar with ship design but there may be benefits hold off until then so that they can be incorporated. Or there might not be. :confused:

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