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Scut
Aug 26, 2008



Lipstick Apathy


Background mockup for one of the games in the SA Gamedev Challenge.

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Scut
Aug 26, 2008



Lipstick Apathy


A little shout out to my friends in Sweden.

RizieN
May 15, 2004

and it was still hot.


Could I commission one of you to make a pixel-art version of my Avatar? I don't know if I'll use it, but I'll pay for it. I have PM if you want to work the money out that way (As not to derail).

Hellbeard
Apr 8, 2002


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RizieN posted:

Could I commission one of you to make a pixel-art version of my Avatar? I don't know if I'll use it, but I'll pay for it. I have PM if you want to work the money out that way (As not to derail).

Sounds like you should visit the old Avatar Market thread!
http://forums.somethingawful.com/sh...hreadid=3336755

Hellbeard
Apr 8, 2002


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Xposting from the avatar thread.

twoski
Sep 11, 2011


I kind of just gently caress around with photoshop, i have never taken an actual art course apart from grade 8 art in high school.



The tanqueray bottle looks out of place imo.



I'm not sure if this can be considered pixel art since it's a bit bigger in scale and lacks fine detail.

Anyhoo, i was curious what methods people use in pixel art to do gradients between colors. Dithering looks the best but do people actually do it by hand?

BurritoEclair
Jun 16, 2012


twoski posted:

I'm not sure if this can be considered pixel art since it's a bit bigger in scale and lacks fine detail.

Anyhoo, i was curious what methods people use in pixel art to do gradients between colors. Dithering looks the best but do people actually do it by hand?

For the most part I do all of my dithering by hand, but I also don't dither much. I think it's easy to use it wrong. Try weighing the noise created against the gradient created.

I don't think there's enough focus on individual pixels for that piece to be considered pixel art yet. And I don't know if it makes much sense at the moment, look at the OP for some guides and useful resources.

Technocrat
Jan 30, 2011

I always finish what I sta


This here's a young lady named Nancy, and her friend Susie the Drug Addict. Nominative determinism at its finest.



Obligatory advertising plug - it's part of a game that's just been released.

The Golden Gael
Nov 12, 2011



Exclamation Marx posted:

fine


In addition to Rapt0rCharles's post, be mindful of the saturation in your colours. The blue carpet especially is eye-burning. In the sprite you're using a heap of colours, and "straight" colour ramps (i.e. shifting in value rather than saturation and hue). Read this for a better description (hue shifting at the bottom).

Some mostly-mirrored portraits using Dawnbringer's 16 colour palette:



Oh man those would be perfect mugshots for a character select screen or something.

"Clowns and Cowboys and Maybe Businessmen, Too"

Humboldt Squid
Jan 21, 2006



Here's an avatar I've been whittling away at. I'm not entirely happy with the color choices I've made (particularly when It comes to the yellow skin\fur), but I'm going to wait unitl it's closer to complete to judge how it works as a whole.

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McKilligan
May 13, 2007

Acey Deezy

Humboldt squid posted:

Here's an avatar I've been whittling away at. I'm not entirely happy with the color choices I've made (particularly when It comes to the yellow skin\fur), but I'm going to wait unitl it's closer to complete to judge how it works as a whole.



Use some of that gray in the hair to soften the edge between the yellow and blue on the body/face.

Diabetes Forecast
Aug 13, 2008

Craptastic
Asslicious
It is for to waste
the time





A bunch of stuff done over this year and last. nothing particularly amazing but whatev

Diabetes Forecast fucked around with this message at Aug 30, 2012 around 07:46

Hellbeard
Apr 8, 2002


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Working on a prototype for a game dev nursery.


Scut
Aug 26, 2008



Lipstick Apathy


Cool! How are you keeping your perspective and rotation angles consistent? Are you using any kind of guides?

Hellbeard
Apr 8, 2002


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Scut posted:

Cool! How are you keeping your perspective and rotation angles consistent? Are you using any kind of guides?

Thanks!
Heh heh. That's the secret, isn't it?
I actually made a 3D model, surrounded it with cameras in 45 degree increments and while rotating the light sources rendered out each frame. Then I "rotoscoped" it in pixel art style and then enlarged it by 2.

Simple, right?

Can't wait for when I'll do animations. ;_;

Edit:

Slightly improved:

Hellbeard fucked around with this message at Sep 1, 2012 around 14:39

Scut
Aug 26, 2008



Lipstick Apathy

It's cool, and looks waaaaay better than when 3d models get 'sprited' like in Fallout or Baldur's Gate.

I always wanted to try that technique with live actors and pixel art over top. We're used to seeing that in games like Karateka or Prince of Persia from a side view but to do from an iso-style perspective would look really cool. Plus rotoscoping actors would make lifelike motion really easy to capture.

Jewel
May 2, 2009



This kinda counts. Nothing serious, but I was just trying to work out how to snap UV maps to pixel perfect increments, so what better thing to get it working on than what basically amounts to a box! Iíll make something biger/better now that Iíve got the knowledge though, most likely. Posting this here since some people might like it anywho, and it technically is pixels!

concerned mom
Apr 22, 2003

by Lowtax


Grimey Drawer

Hellbeard posted:

Thanks!
Heh heh. That's the secret, isn't it?
I actually made a 3D model, surrounded it with cameras in 45 degree increments and while rotating the light sources rendered out each frame. Then I "rotoscoped" it in pixel art style and then enlarged it by 2.

Simple, right?

Can't wait for when I'll do animations. ;_;

Edit:

Slightly improved:



I think you should rotate the model, not have multiple cameras or you'll get that little wobble by his feet where the perspective keeps changing slightly. Looking really nice though.

Hellbeard
Apr 8, 2002


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concerned mom posted:

I think you should rotate the model, not have multiple cameras or you'll get that little wobble by his feet where the perspective keeps changing slightly. Looking really nice though.

Thanks. I think you're right.

Hellbeard
Apr 8, 2002


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Well. That took a while.

A good lesson here is to have a "method" for rotoscoping each part so it doesn't become so psychedelic. I'll need to go over and fit the frames better.

concerned mom
Apr 22, 2003

by Lowtax


Grimey Drawer

Check this out by the way, might save you a little bit of time:

http://www.polycount.com/forum/show..._source=message

poemdexter
Feb 18, 2005

Hooray Indie Games!


College Slice

TemporalParadox posted:

Seeing this thread, and reading through the gamedev thread inspired me to try to make some pixel art.
For some reason, I decided to make a ~16x16 run cycle and idle of this fellow:


Then once I had that done I wanted to see it on something, so this is where I am now:


Actual size:


This stuff is tough. Especially working in smaller sizes; when an entire arm is about 5 pixels, each pixel really means quite a bit.

Maybe I'll make some mockups for a little game out of this or something. Any thoughts so far?

Hey TemporalParadox, I totally stole your assets for my hobby prototype since they were so pretty. If you're interested in working on something is a purely hobby way meaning do whatever work whenever with 0 commitment, please let me know. Oryx tileset only goes so far.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0iJfUmn5p9o

Hellbeard
Apr 8, 2002


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A shooting target.

Internet Janitor
May 17, 2008

"That isn't the appropriate trash receptacle."


Started tinkering with a mockup for a Binding of Isaac style random-dungeon-crawler, except you control a squad and it's set in an abandoned research base on Mars.

BetterWeirdthanDead
Mar 7, 2006

Ask me why I really
went to see Terminator


Internet Janitor posted:

Started tinkering with a mockup for a Binding of Isaac style random-dungeon-crawler, except you control a squad and it's set in an abandoned research base on Mars.


That sounds awesome. How would the members of the squad be controller or managed?

Internet Janitor
May 17, 2008

"That isn't the appropriate trash receptacle."


BetterWeirdthanDead posted:

That sounds awesome. How would the members of the squad be controller or managed?

Playing with a couple ideas. The simple approach is to allow the player to cycle through squaddies to select a "leader" to control directly, and have the others automatically follow the leader and use weapons, etc. as appropriate. Alternately I might try some sort of "VATS mode" thing where you can pause the action and issue commands seperately. I think I'm going to have to just try things until I get something that feels fun.

Ave Azaria
Oct 4, 2010

by Lowtax


Another good freeware program not mentioned in the OP is Grafx2. It's a little archaically skinned, but you want to work with a 256 color palette, it has some a few advanced operations the other editors lack. You can even make cool color cycling effects.

Internet Janitor
May 17, 2008

"That isn't the appropriate trash receptacle."


Went over the tileset again, reorganized things and reduced the palette by one color. I gave the room tiles a more detailed, technical look which I think better suggests a sci-fi setting. The HUD shows the second squaddie selected. I'm not totally pleased with the HUD- I think the hearts and energy containers look too visually busy and will be difficult to interpret at a glance. Thoughts?



Hellbeard
Apr 8, 2002


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A couple of pixel-art style stuff from my illustration thread in SA Mart:


(for steam)


(for SA Forums)

dizzywhip
Dec 23, 2005



Internet Janitor posted:

Went over the tileset again, reorganized things and reduced the palette by one color. I gave the room tiles a more detailed, technical look which I think better suggests a sci-fi setting. The HUD shows the second squaddie selected. I'm not totally pleased with the HUD- I think the hearts and energy containers look too visually busy and will be difficult to interpret at a glance. Thoughts?





Since you're working with a restricted palette I'm assuming you won't be able to make those empty hearts/containers lighter to make them more subtle. I'd suggest maybe using those little pixel dots instead, maybe bump them up to 2x2 to make them easier to see if you do that.

There needs to be some padding between the selection highlights and the content in the character panels, and the empty space to the sides of the highlights looks a little weird. I'd add at least 2 or 3 pixels of padding and also make the highlights stretch to the edges of the container.

The icon for the energy containers is a little generic -- I wouldn't really know what those were unless I was told. It might be hard to do at such a small size, but if it was more of a recognizable object like a lightning bolt or battery it might be easier to tell what it means.

Lastly, I'm not sure if this would actually be better or not without seeing it, but you might want to try flipping the energy bars and the bottom-right portrait (I assume this is for held items?) so it lines up with the character portrait and hearts. The symmetry might make it easier to read.

Overall it looks really awesome though. I really like the color palette and the overall style.

SCF
Nov 8, 2000



Internet Janitor posted:

Went over the tileset again, reorganized things and reduced the palette by one color. I gave the room tiles a more detailed, technical look which I think better suggests a sci-fi setting. The HUD shows the second squaddie selected. I'm not totally pleased with the HUD- I think the hearts and energy containers look too visually busy and will be difficult to interpret at a glance. Thoughts?





Would it be easier to read if you made the empty containers hollow like this? I also thought making the whole background for the selected character yellow would look better, but then realized that it also means there'd be no difference between a filled and hollow energy container

Scut
Aug 26, 2008



Lipstick Apathy


I like what you are doing with this. I would suggest tweaking your palette to deliver a higher contrast and more temperature grading.



I would also suggest breaking the monochrome palette with a couple 'pop colours'. Something that intentionally clashes with the red tones in the rest of the palette and can be used for special highlights and drawing the player's eye to important details.
The two swatches I stuck in there are just suggestions but hopefully you get the idea. Of course as suggestions, they are just that.

I'd love to see some mockups of how the squad combat could work.

Internet Janitor
May 17, 2008

"That isn't the appropriate trash receptacle."


Thanks for the great feedback, guys!

Scut: Are there any particular tools or techniques you use when working with palettes?

Among many small changes I now have a less generic energy container, hollow shapes for empty containers and I've incorporated Scut's kickin' rad tweaks to the palette. The map portion of the HUD is centered now, which I think adds some balance to the design. Still needs work, but it's getting there.



I've started working on some sprites so I can begin roughing in gameplay:



And a quick first stab at a title screen:



Thoughts?

exmarx
Feb 18, 2012




I might just be tired of that whole purple ††> yellow thing, but I think it's still quite washed out (either way, the "Red Planet" is lacking proper reds ).

Here's an edit, I like the one with the dark brown and pale cyan the best VV


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Scut
Aug 26, 2008



Lipstick Apathy

Yeah Marx, your edits are pretty swanky. I think the main thing is to just give better contrast and temperature to the palette.

Internet Janitor: I mostly just use Gimp for all my raster graphics. It has a a nice colour selector that lets you select all pixels of the same colour, then ctrl+t hides the marquee and you can make realtime adjustments without anything interfering with the visuals.

When I'm making a palette I tend to do lots of revisions between the palette and my work in progress. As I draw I see weakpoints in the palette and so I tweak a swatch, go back into the image, repeat.

As a really loose rule of thumb it's wise to shift darker values into cooler, more saturated colours, and lighter values up into warmer, less saturated tints. There's a pile more you can do, of course (and as Marx has proven in short order ).

Here's a great article dissecting the Bitmap Brother's work on Chaos Engine: http://www.wayofthepixel.net/index.php?topic=1025.0



In pixel art related tools, I recently came across Pyxel Edit. I haven't had a chance to really try it on a proper project, but it seems like a good modern take on how a pixel editor should function.
http://pyxeledit.com/

Hellbeard
Apr 8, 2002


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Made for Redbubble and Society6.

Hellbeard
Apr 8, 2002


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I'll just leave this wizard here.

RizieN
May 15, 2004

and it was still hot.


Exclamation Marx posted:

I might just be tired of that whole purple ††> yellow thing, but I think it's still quite washed out (either way, the "Red Planet" is lacking proper reds ).

Here's an edit, I like the one with the dark brown and pale cyan the best VV



I love Sci-Fi poo poo and will totally play your game Internet Janitor. But I do think the top right edit is the most pleasing and naturally "Red Planet Sci Fi Game"-esque.

Scut
Aug 26, 2008



Lipstick Apathy

Hellbeard, I can't quite explain how but your work reminds me of old PC Zone shareware disks in a good way.

Here's a robot that I spent way too much time on:

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Hellbeard
Apr 8, 2002


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Scut posted:

Hellbeard, I can't quite explain how but your work reminds me of old PC Zone shareware disks in a good way.

Here's a robot that I spent way too much time on:


Thanks! That's quite a compliment. I'm a PC man so I definitely draw inspiration from there.

I love that robot. Very good looking.

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