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"In the exhibit displayed above, YouTube user DeusVult1488's two hour video titled 'The international Jewish menace, and what is to be done about it' is ranked fourth on this list of search results. Would the defendant explain for the benefit of the court why this upstanding citizen's political views are being suppressed by their opaque and unaccountable ranking algorithm?" "Your honor the search term at the top of the prosecution's results page is 'how to bake chocolate chip cookies'"
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Cybernetic Vermin posted:hmm, yes, all the people installing firefox who would like to use yahoo search but can't be bothered to change the default most users will not change the default, so ms outbidding google would result in most ff users using bing
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Aug 24, 2020 23:09
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Plorkyeran posted:most users will not change the default, so ms outbidding google would result in most ff users using bing can't be bothered to change defaults in a browser that isn't the default?
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Aug 24, 2020 23:13
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Progressive JPEG posted:can't be bothered to change defaults in a browser that isn't the default? that’s what the numbers say. google knows exactly what they get for the money, and they are very happy to get that traffic at that price
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Aug 24, 2020 23:14
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After that ebay story where they proved that google ad buys had no effect on their traffic but continued to spend millions per year on ads anyway, I have no faith in any of these companies to be rational.
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Aug 24, 2020 23:19
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ThePeavstenator posted:After that ebay story where they proved that google ad buys had no effect on their traffic but continued to spend millions per year on ads anyway, I have no faith in any of these companies to be rational. lmao, link?
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Aug 25, 2020 01:20
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animist posted:lmao, link? bobmarleysghost posted:send these 60 marketers this article https://thecorrespondent.com/100/the-new-dot-com-bubble-is-here-its-called-online-advertising/13228924500-22d5fd24
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Aug 25, 2020 01:35
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incredible, ty
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Aug 25, 2020 02:48
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Progressive JPEG posted:can't be bothered to change defaults in a browser that isn't the default? you are describing my old boss
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Aug 25, 2020 17:33
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https://utcc.utoronto.ca/~cks/space/blog/programming/GoConcurrencyStillNotEasyquote:Go is famous for making concurrency easy, through good language support for goroutines. why do people still believe this? go does literally nothing to help you write correct concurrent programs i'm going to make a language that makes cryptography easy! *adds built-in enc/dec statements to encrypt/decrypt single AES block* done!
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Sep 3, 2020 17:46
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suffix posted:https://utcc.utoronto.ca/~cks/space/blog/programming/GoConcurrencyStillNotEasy Effective marketing.
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Sep 3, 2020 17:55
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suffix posted:https://utcc.utoronto.ca/~cks/space/blog/programming/GoConcurrencyStillNotEasy
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Sep 3, 2020 19:05
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I wonder what percentage of go programs in the wild even use goroutines?
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Sep 3, 2020 19:07
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goroutines make it easy to write programs with concurrency that appear to work, while the mainstream options when go first came out made it hard to even get to that step
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Sep 3, 2020 19:34
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goroutines came from that one fork of C that Rob Pike made, that had the same gimmick for concurrency, with all the same fundamental problems and issues. have they at least fixed the memory leak by now
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Sep 3, 2020 19:36
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goroutines make concurrency easy [to get started with and to gently caress up]. also they're too slow according to microbenchmarks so in practice all significant golang projects just use mutexes.
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Sep 3, 2020 20:03
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no you see its what they use at google
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I get all of my UI design ideas from google, amazon and photoshop All authentication ux must be exactly implemented as my bank does I am product
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suffix posted:why do people still believe this? go does literally nothing to help you write correct concurrent programs because developers see “has a language construct for concurrency” and immediately conclude “makes concurrency easy enough I don’t have to think about it” the industry went through this with Java, for gently caress’s sake, and with C# too, and had to re-learn that lesson both times on Apple’s platforms we went through this with threads, @synchronized, atomic properties, and libdispatch, and developers had to re-learn the lesson each time and of course a repeated complaint about Swift since it’s introduction has been that it doesn’t have any special concurrency constructs, as if adding them at the language level will somehow make concurrency any easier than having dispatch, threads, etc. available at the library level the only thing sillier than the “«thing» needs to be in the language to make it easy” meme is the “«thing» should never be used” meme, such as the SQLite creator’s opinions on threads
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Suspicious Dish posted:goroutines came from that one fork of C that Rob Pike made, that had the same gimmick for concurrency, with all the same fundamental problems and issues. have they at least fixed the memory leak by now this is basically the story of Go though, it’s all Pike’s fork of C for Plan 9 and beyond and honestly that poo poo is one of the reasons I never got particularly interested in Plan 9, I never felt its mutations to C actually improved C (unlike Objective-C’s additions or even C++’s additions prior to template metaprogramming)
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Sep 3, 2020 21:06
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Objective-C was until recently the only permitted language on the biggest money-making software platform of all time. Can you name a single software project that used it voluntarily (i.e. on any target other than Apple's poo poo)?
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Sep 3, 2020 21:15
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eschaton posted:because developers see “has a language construct for concurrency” and immediately conclude “makes concurrency easy enough I don’t have to think about it” doing concurrency in the language will in fact make concurrency way easier than having dispatch, threads, etc. available at the library level, which is why we're doing exactly that in swift
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Sep 3, 2020 21:20
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Sapozhnik posted:Objective-C was until recently the only permitted language on the biggest money-making software platform of all time. it combines the familiarity of smalltalk with the user-friendliness of c, so i can't imagine why it wasn't a hit
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Sep 3, 2020 21:22
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Sapozhnik posted:Objective-C was until recently the only permitted language on the biggest money-making software platform of all time. this is a thread for shitposting about programming languages, not for just being repeatedly wrong
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MononcQc posted:goroutines make concurrency easy [to get started with and to gently caress up]. unless it's changed, channels also just use mutexes under the hood anyway there was another good article years back about what else is bad about go channels: https://www.jtolio.com/2016/03/go-channels-are-bad-and-you-should-feel-bad/
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Sep 3, 2020 21:27
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shlomo posted:Effective marketing. all those "we switched to golang and it's so good" articles take a weird light when you realize they're always either: - writing a new service from scratch and using golang - rewriting an existing service and switching to golang and wow wee what do you know, they get to use golang and it's like a breath of fresh air and everyone is happy and I no longer feel burned out at work. now is that because golang is a good language to use (it could play a part, not going to lie), or is it because the thing they were working on before was a legacy application written in either an old java implementation or a python/ruby implementation that was thrown together and accumulated cruft, making it painful to work with?
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Sep 3, 2020 21:32
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Concurrency is a loving mess anywhere, just stop doing multiple things
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Sep 3, 2020 21:34
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mystes posted:I think Go was somehow just a lot of people's first exposure to message passing style concurrency? judging by the medium posts that show up on reddit and hacker news, go is a lot of people's first exposure to static typing 
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brand engager posted:Concurrency is a loving mess anywhere, just stop doing multiple things 
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Sapozhnik posted:Objective-C was until recently the only permitted language on the biggest money-making software platform of all time. the original doom and quake editors on nextstep
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Rust's `Send` and `Sync` marker traits are a true blessing. if there is a problem or criticism of them please post it. i haven't gone too deep in concurrency hell so i don't know if there are demons they can't handle.
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rjmccall posted:doing concurrency in the language will in fact make concurrency way easier than having dispatch, threads, etc. available at the library level, which is why we're doing exactly that in swift I’ll believe that when I see it; in almost every case I’ve seen, language features just make concurrency look simpler rather than actually make writing working and performant code easier the only exceptions I’ve seen are Occam and Erlang; in both, what the language offers is pretty much all you get, and Occam is basically assembly plus channels where you also have to annotate all basic blocks as parallel or sequential so it’s only “relatively” easy eschaton fucked around with this message at 00:08 on Sep 4, 2020 |
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Sapozhnik posted:Objective-C was until recently the only permitted language on the biggest money-making software platform of all time. Hewlett-Packard was a significant user of the Stepstone compiler, they used it for building the software that ran on instrumentation like logic analyzers and of course you’re conveniently erasing all of the people who became NEXTSTEP, Mac OS X, and iOS developers because they loved the platforms, and wound up loving the language and tools too sorry being a carpetbagger means you don’t get to call the shots
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eschaton posted:Hewlett-Packard was a significant user of the Stepstone compiler, they used it for building the software that ran on instrumentation like logic analyzers i feel like there is something wrong with one's fundamental life outlook if you find yourself thinking that this is a normal thing to post
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The_Franz posted:the original doom and quake editors on nextstep oh yeah, even through the late 00’s people were still being scouted to maintain and enhance systems developed at financial institutions on NEXTSTEP in the early 1990s, where it was mainly selected for development agility same reason some three-letter agencies adopted it at the time, they could throw together new analysis tools very quickly with it “mission critical custom applications” are what kept NeXT afloat between the cancellation of hardware and the introduction of WebObjects Lisp Machines had a similar story; they were big in areas like oilfield seismic analysis where spending $75K/developer and $25K/analyst on workstations was no big deal when a single find could mean millions to billions in additional revenue (this died out mainly because Symbolics’ performance stagnated while commodity hardware caught up, the inflection point was around when a workstation with 1/3 the performance was under 1/3 the price, because that was fast enough and could be made up for in volume)
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Internet Janitor posted:judging by the medium posts that show up on reddit and hacker news, go is a lot of people's first exposure to static typing targeting junior developers seems like a good way to get a lot of overly excited blog posts written about mundane aspects of your thing
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Sep 4, 2020 00:27
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Most people writing golang apps don't need complex concurrency that covers complex use cases, they want simple and easy that covers simple and easy use cases, and for this it works great and it's a huge step up from python
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Sep 4, 2020 01:07
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doesn't python have a queue module? or is this a "source your quotes" that went over my head
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abigserve posted:Most people writing golang apps don't need complex concurrency that covers complex use cases, they want simple and easy that covers simple and easy use cases, and for this it works great and it's a huge step up from python how is it a huge step up i have no counterargument, i can slap together poo poo that works and makes money in half a day or so in python 3, so i want to know what the gains are, whatever they may be
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hi just wanted to say why are enums in csharp so poo poo? it is too much to ask to have a type safe enum where you can easily go var thingtype = myThingEnum.FromValue(3) or something?
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