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ufarn
May 30, 2009


Yeah I'm looking at the used cards since there haven't been any good sales over here.

1070 looks decent, but the 0.1% barely stay above 60, and future games aren't going to be less demanding. But it looks like it's more or less the lower bound for about a year.

There aren't that many PC games for 2018 that should be more demanding anyway.

I just wanted to know whether this is the best time to buy, or if people might react to the new cards by lowering prices or something soon, too.

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codo27
Apr 21, 2008



A 1060 should be able to have 1080p for breakfast shouldn't it?

Lockback
Sep 2, 2006

All days are nights to see till I see thee; and nights bright days when dreams do show me thee.


ufarn posted:

Yeah I'm looking at the used cards since there haven't been any good sales over here.

1070 looks decent, but the 0.1% barely stay above 60, and future games aren't going to be less demanding. But it looks like it's more or less the lower bound for about a year.

There aren't that many PC games for 2018 that should be more demanding anyway.

I just wanted to know whether this is the best time to buy, or if people might react to the new cards by lowering prices or something soon, too.

I have a 1070 with a 1440p, I can say with a lot of confidence that you'll be fine with a 1070 and 1080p. I think 1080s are usually not much more, so that might be an easy step up if you are concerned.

The used market should get better when the 20xx's actually release. I don't think the market will be flooded, but with the 2080ti being part of the first release I expect a lot of cards will hit the market. I'd think by the first or 2nd week in October your local Craigslist and Ebay should be pretty primed. You never know though, if 20xx stock is low it might take a while to get good.

There are rumors of a glut of Pascal chips that need to be unloaded, but usually retailers don't want to undercut themselves by having big sales during this release craze, that usually comes later.

codo27 posted:

A 1060 should be able to have 1080p for breakfast shouldn't it?

1060 does a great job at 1080p, but you may need to occasionally tweak things down slightly. If you're an enthusiast I probably wouldn't suggest a 1060 right now when you can probably end up getting a 1070/1080 for not much more in the near future.

Arivia
Mar 17, 2011


Lockback posted:

1060 does a great job at 1080p, but you may need to occasionally tweak things down slightly. If you're an enthusiast I probably wouldn't suggest a 1060 right now when you can probably end up getting a 1070/1080 for not much more in the near future.

Yeah, this is pretty much it. The 1070 for the last two years has been the "1080p with ALL the bells and whistles" card, so it's going to stay a step ahead as Pascal fades out of being the new targetted hotness. A 1060 or 1050ti is generally fine for playing games at 1080p, but the 1070 is where you want to be buying now for good 1080p performance going forward, when all the bells and whistles steps down to Ultra or High.

Also good to be told I was wrong about Freesync. I retract my comment about it being terrible. I'd still go for GSync if I bought a new monitor, but I guess Freesync ain't as bad as I thought.

repiv
Aug 13, 2009



College Slice

Well if there's one thing the 2080ti is really good at, it's compute. It's literally double the performance of the 1080ti in many of those tests and the rendering benchmarks aren't even using the RT cores yet.

ufarn
May 30, 2009


I might get a 1080 at 2/3 price which is half the price of a 1080ti at MSRP, maybe I'll pull the trigger in a couple of days. Might make it easier to sell later on, too.

Cygni
Nov 12, 2005

raring to post



1060 6Gig will run dang near everything at 1080/60 no problem. I ran one at 1440p and only had to turn things down super rarely.

Cygni fucked around with this message at Sep 21, 2018 around 21:44

Stanley Pain
Jun 16, 2001

Bit. Trip. RIP.


repiv posted:

Well if there's one thing the 2080ti is really good at, it's compute. It's literally double the performance of the 1080ti in many of those tests and the rendering benchmarks aren't even using the RT cores yet.

But how well does it mine Crypto?

Statutory Ape
Sep 12, 2017



Stanley Pain posted:

But how well does it mine Crypto?

hopefully very poorly

Shadow225
Jan 2, 2007





Is there anything that I should know about a used GPU (specifically a GTX 1080 Ti) that has been mined?

I know to check to see if the warranty is still active. I just don't know how much wear mining takes on a card in a farm that is active for <1 year. Is that still a safe range, or should I look elsewhere

craig588
Nov 19, 2005



The fans could be worn from running 24/7 for a year. Farms are better than some guy because profitability is more critical so they run them slower and cooler on average. When I made 320$ i used my same gaming settings because I didn't want to micromanage my card, the "correct" way to run miners was the GPU as slow as possible and the memory as fast as possible. I just ran it at 2.1GHz for the GPU and 10.8GHz for the memory. I could have made more by running at 1.6GHz for the GPU and finding out the max memory speed with the slower GPU speed. A 1080 uses a lot less power at slower speeds and memory doesn't use much power at all.

craig588 fucked around with this message at Sep 22, 2018 around 06:29

sauer kraut
Oct 2, 2004


German nerd king Igor (the one who got banned on US Toms) did a thing about Turings power phases, it should rectify some wrong assumptions from the Buildzoid video:
https://www.tomshw.de/2018/09/21/nv...nntnisse/all/1/

tl;dr Nvidia uses a whole host of 'smart' components to smooth out power spikes, and relieve stress off power supplies.
The 2080ti has 3 memory phases, 3 single VDDC that take care of everyday idle/low power scenarios, and 5x2 paired VDDC (not doubled) for heavy loads

Shrimp or Shrimps
Feb 14, 2012


codo27 posted:

A 1060 should be able to have 1080p for breakfast shouldn't it?

I've got a laptop 1060 (so about -10% performance at stock, but I've overclocked it to gain some of that back) and while it's a great 1080p card, it's in my experience not a 1080p all-ultra card. It's a 1080p Mix-of-High-and-Ultra card when we're talking about modern games. And for the most part, you can forget about any kind of demanding AA.

repiv
Aug 13, 2009



College Slice

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=84OkcOYmXOk

ufarn
May 30, 2009


tl;dw: NVLink appears to circumvent PCIe bottlenecks, but support is about as crappy as SLI's.

But at least it sounds like NVLink doesn't require a separate implementation as SLI does. GN doesn't recommend using it.

He sums it up around 14:15.

Dead Goon
Dec 13, 2002

Sledgehammer of Eternal Justice


https://www.reddit.com/r/overclocki...ith_the_2080ti/

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Surprise Giraffe
Apr 30, 2007
1 Lunar Road
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The Moon

craig588 posted:

The fans could be worn from running 24/7 for a year. Farms are better than some guy because profitability is more critical so they run them slower and cooler on average. When I made 320$ i used my same gaming settings because I didn't want to micromanage my card, the "correct" way to run miners was the GPU as slow as possible and the memory as fast as possible. I just ran it at 2.1GHz for the GPU and 10.8GHz for the memory. I could have made more by running at 1.6GHz for the GPU and finding out the max memory speed with the slower GPU speed. A 1080 uses a lot less power at slower speeds and memory doesn't use much power at all.

Got a cheap 1080ti FE and I think it needs repasting too. It's super loud and reaches 80 degrees in total warhammer 2 1440p 60fps if I set the fans to 85% which is just about tollerable noise wise. I'm sure it ought to do better than that.

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