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necrobobsledder posted:We haven't had a "killer app" in a long time besides I dunno Zoom and it's just not coming from the broader consumer gaming market that's more interested these days in graphical "powerhouses" like Minecraft, Overwatch, and Fortnite. It's not clear if there's even a possibility of a "killer app" anymore in broader consumer markets due to the weird ways that our markets have "diversified." I'd hypothesize that a killer app wouldn't happen in an already-saturated area like gaming but a potential new market category like AR with virtual hangouts in people's houses and bars made possible due to COVID. The entire idea of a "killer app" is more about market making than about transforming an already mature market I'd hazard to say. I'm not sure how well it sold, but wasn't Star Wars Squadrons pretty well received last year (outside of chuds crying about the game's "identity politics")?
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mA posted:I'm not sure how well it sold, but wasn't Star Wars Squadrons pretty well received last year (outside of chuds crying about the game's "identity politics")? That game is fun without VR though
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Mar 1, 2021 00:03
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Oh, I thought it was a VR only game.
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love living in 2021 where Youtube is recommending a "24/7 Live In-Stock Alert RTX 3060/3060TI/3070/3080/3090 RX 6800/6900 Ryzen 5600x/5800x/5900x/5950x" livestream to me and there are 500 viewers on it
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shrike82 posted:love living in 2021 where Youtube is recommending a "24/7 Live In-Stock Alert RTX 3060/3060TI/3070/3080/3090 RX 6800/6900 Ryzen 5600x/5800x/5900x/5950x" livestream to me and there are 500 viewers on it Well... Are you going to share the link?
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shrike82 posted:love living in 2021 where Youtube is recommending a "24/7 Live In-Stock Alert RTX 3060/3060TI/3070/3080/3090 RX 6800/6900 Ryzen 5600x/5800x/5900x/5950x" livestream to me and there are 500 viewers on it do they at least have background music lo-fi beats to miss a gpu sale to
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I'm imagining all of the cycles of anxiety, adrenaline, hope, dread, suspense, disappointment and depression behind that channel.
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I tried following one of those Youtube live streams before, but by the time I had gotten the notification (a bomb warning siren lol) and then clicked the affiliate link the bot was posting, the card was already sold out. This happened several times. So I think, at least for the 3080 drops, you still need a robutt to do it all for you. I've seen people have success with 3070s though in the live chat. mA posted:I'm imagining all of the cycles of anxiety, adrenaline, hope, dread, suspense, disappointment and depression behind that channel. lmao after hearing the bomb siren and sprinting from the other room to click a link to a sold out page 5 or so times, I decided I'd had enough.
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$1800 3090 tuf has been in stock on amazon for over 2 hours. Its a lovely price, but worth considering over an ebay 3080 at the same price
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AR being easier to setup because smartphones themselves have better barriers to entry have left behind a lot of things in the PC area as well. We can observe how much a decade can drive along brand new technologies given the progress of the smartphone sector alone between 2008 and 2018. Ikea's not releasing a VR app so people can touch and feel their furniture, they're pushing it out on phones so people can quickly see how furniture looks in a room. Until something about VR (and the requisite equipment) that's so compelling over a smartphone shows up, we're looking at VR staying in a bad spot overall for adoption making it basically a loss leader or something similar or a senior developer retention program for a bunch of tech companies. Oh yeah, and if VR is such a flop after all this time that even Apple can't push a headset to Make It A Thing for normal people, VR will be heavily divested by tech companies leading to a VR Winter of sorts.
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Guru3d: MOSFET prices to increase on worsening component shortagesquote:02/26/2021 09:08 AM | source: Digitimes
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I would simply control the voltage and current flow between source and drain by other means
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can they fix not having transistors in software?
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Mar 1, 2021 02:39
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ASUS TUF Gaming NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3090 OC Edition https://www.amazon.com/dp/B08HJGNJ81 $1,839.99. In stock April 6. Laughably probably a "good deal" in these times.
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Sphyre posted:I would simply control the voltage and current flow between source and drain by other means Looking forward to the vacuum tube future of GPUs.
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 this meme but with GPUs and games
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gary oldmans diary posted:ASUS TUF Gaming NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3090 OC Edition https://www.amazon.com/dp/B08HJGNJ81 $1,839.99. In stock April 6. Goes for 2800-3300 Euro on eBay over here, easy scalping flip.
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Sphyre posted:I would simply control the voltage and current flow between source and drain by other means Putting your finger in the middle should do it right
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Sphyre posted:I would simply control the voltage and current flow between source and drain by other means Is Maxwell’s demon looking for a job?
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gary oldmans diary posted:ASUS TUF Gaming NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3090 OC Edition https://www.amazon.com/dp/B08HJGNJ81 $1,839.99. In stock April 6. pretty sure it's just amazon glitching out, no way it's in stock for 6 hours when you could flip it for $1k more. Errors when I try to check out.
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My friend is streaming movies with OBS to us over RSTP (we're watching in VLC). He has an RTX 2080, is there a way to stream out in HEVC H.265 instead of 264 so twice as many of us can watch? It only gives 264 in stream options. Maybe some kind of plugin to enable it? Or some other app that can use NVENC for an HEVC RTSP stream?
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The VR killer app is some combo of Beat Saber and HL: Alyx. I got an HP Reverb G2 in the fall and despite initially thinking I would mostly be playing Alyx and sim games, I've sunk nearly 100 hours into Beat Saber and barely touched anything else. The custom songs are that good and the gameplay is great for VR. Seriously, if you haven't played it, give it a try. It's quite fun. Unfortunately Facebook now owns the devs who made Beatsaber so as time goes on I suspect things will start to go down the drain.
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Enos Cabell posted:It did though? Quest 2 sold like crazy, way higher than they forecasted. wow, those are like sega cd numbers!
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LFCE1WWKzoo Moore's Law is Dead came out with a very short video about the RX 6700XT, and I like writing down specific claims he makes so you can go back to check if he's full of poo poo later on * the RX 6700XT is going to have an MSRP between 479 to 499 USD. To compare: - the RX 6800 [non-XT]'s MSRP is 579 USD - the RX 5700XT's MSRP was 399 USD - the RTX 3070's MSRP is 499 USD - the RTX 3060Ti's MSRP is 399 USD * there's going to be two "variants" to the 6700XT: - a base model that's going to be the reference model sold directly by AMD, and by AIBs as "non-overlocked" models. - a overclocked model that's only going to be sold by AIBs. These are supposed to be better-binned and will be clocked higher - back in Feb 19th we already had someone else talk about this rumor. The base model is supposed to have a TDP of 189w, and the OC model is supposed to have a higher TDP of 230w * as far as relative performance metrics, MLID claims: - the OC models of the RX 6700XT will land somewhere between the 3060Ti and the 3070 - the base/reference models are supposed to equal the 3060Ti - in another section of the video says the RX 6700XT is supposed to be "better than a 2080 Super". Since the 3060Ti is already roughly equal to a 2080 Super, saying the RX 6700XT is better than that is congruent with a claim that the OC models are better than a 3060Ti (and worse than a 3070) * The RX 6700XT is supposed to come out some time during the latter half of March 2021, "probably the third week of March", MLID says - the 6700 [non-XT] has no firm release date yet, and is rumored to be delayed/pushed out because the yields on the XT model are good enough that AMD is in no hurry to come out with this cut-down version
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none of it matters if they have none to sell. It feels like there are less 6800xt's all SKUs combined than evga 3080 ftw3's. Do we know what nm these are? Are they lower binned 6800s or off an entirely different production line?
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Back to VR chat for a sec but RE7 was the only game worth a poo poo for VR imo.
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CyberPingu posted:Back to VR chat for a sec but RE7 was the only game worth a poo poo for VR imo. And it still doesn't have VR support on PC which loving sucks.
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Fauxtool posted:none of it matters if they have none to sell. It feels like there are less 6800xt's all SKUs combined than evga 3080 ftw3's. Do we know what nm these are? Are they lower binned 6800s or off an entirely different production line? 6700XT's should still be 7nm RDNA2, but using a different die (Navi 22, 335 mm2), compared to a 6800/6900 (Navi 21, 520 mm2)
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8-bit Miniboss posted:And it still doesn't have VR support on PC which loving sucks. Yep
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Fauxtool posted:none of it matters if they have none to sell. It feels like there are less 6800xt's all SKUs combined than evga 3080 ftw3's. Do we know what nm these are? Are they lower binned 6800s or off an entirely different production line? February numbers should be available soon (although their partners stop producing during Lunar New Year like everyone else) but so far AMD hasn't even shipped enough units for a single product to show up on the Steam Hardware Survey. They are just rolled in to "other" and the noise there is significant enough that it overwhelms the data, but for example this month that whole category increased 0.11% (last month it decreased 0.61%). They have some decent numbers at mindfactory, supposedly 30-50% as much as NVIDIA but that's not backed up anywhere else or by the Steam results so I guess they're maybe shipping all of their inventory there to make a good show, since they know hardware enthusiasts watch mindfactory's sales numbers. I've typed and deleted a couple times now trying to come up with something relevant to say about where AMD might be trying to place themselves relative to 3070 and 3060 Ti price and performance but it seems so irrelevant now. Imagine how ridiculous reviewers must feel about the whole thing, imagine trying to make a review with a straight face where you review the products as if anyone is going to be able to buy a 3070 or a 6700XT for $499 in the near future. Like what do you really say other than "here's the performance, it's X% faster than this part and Y% slower than that part, best of luck"? it's a little extra ridiculous with AMD since they are launching these SKUs that they clearly can't actually produce in volume. This is the essence of a paper launch, not just one that's hard to get but one that literally only exists on paper to say you did it, to satisfy the investors and keep yourself in the tech media. If this lower SKU doesn't have the small bus+Infinity Cache arrangement and instead relies on a normally-sized bus (eg the same size as the big chips), they might mine almost as well as the Big RDNA2 chips but at a much lower cost, they might be difficult to come by on that basis as well.
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Well the good news is that bitcoin is crashing so there might be less mining demand. The bad news is that bitcoin is crashing and it's harder to justify spending a grand to make glass shinier now  Psst, Nvidia! I have a few dozen mosfets I'll trade you for a 3080. (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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mobby_6kl posted:Well the good news is that bitcoin is crashing so there might be less mining demand. The bad news is that bitcoin is crashing and it's harder to justify spending a grand to make glass shinier now It's up 5% today :/ (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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8-bit Miniboss posted:And it still doesn't have VR support on PC which loving sucks. Same with Ace Combat 7. Project Wingman has VR support for the whole campaign but AC7 VR Mission 2 was the first time VR went from  to  for me. axeil posted:The VR killer app is some combo of Beat Saber and HL: Alyx. I got an HP Reverb G2 in the fall and despite initially thinking I would mostly be playing Alyx and sim games, I've sunk nearly 100 hours into Beat Saber and barely touched anything else. The custom songs are that good and the gameplay is great for VR. Get Pistol Whip if you haven’t, no custom songs but it’s probably my favorite rhythm game ever.
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Gorilla Tag is the VR killer app. But seriously most of the games that explode in VR spaces aren’t coming from the usual big companies. It’s all indie devs executing on an idea really well like with Population One or a classic game that really benefits from that sense of presence like Myst.
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In that sense it's more like the early microcomputer days rather than the years of peak Sega/Nintendo, right down to a lot of the established players in other media coming to VR because it's shiny and new and spending a lot of money to make uninspired products that completely miss the point of the medium.
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Or maybe it's simply a product that fails to appeal to a sufficient amount of people and even a perfect VR game won't entice more into buying a headset.
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VR headsets will never see mass adoption as long as you look like a total doof wearing one.
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The biggest barrier to entry for me is having to spend roughly 50 to 100% of the money I spent on building a good enough computer again for just VR, which isn't even usable for general purpose computer usage. So it'll be a very expensive accessory that will spend more time on the shelf than serving any purpose.
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Fame Douglas posted:Or maybe it's simply a product that fails to appeal to a sufficient amount of people and even a perfect VR game won't entice more into buying a headset. People who say VR will never become mainstream ever are just wrong though, outside of an environmental or social cataclysm that stops technological progress for a while. Most of the barriers are solvable and even if VR games specifically don't catch on, a HMD of high enough quality and comfort with passthrough will be a better display than any physical display could be. Geemer posted:The biggest barrier to entry for me is having to spend roughly 50 to 100% of the money I spent on building a good enough computer again for just VR, which isn't even usable for general purpose computer usage. SCheeseman fucked around with this message at 12:51 on Mar 1, 2021 |
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SCheeseman posted:People who say VR will never become mainstream ever are just wrong though, outside of an environmental or social cataclysm that stops technological progress for a while. Most of the barriers are solvable and even if VR games specifically don't catch on, a HMD of high enough quality and comfort with passthrough will be a better display than any physical display could be. But it's tiring in a way a TV isn't
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