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Nov 19, 2013 11:39
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veedubfreak posted:So I checked my credit card balance this morning. Sigh....4075 bucks. I gotta start selling some poo poo to recoup expenses. At least you lucked out on the XFX's unlocking! 
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Ghostpilot posted:At least you lucked out on the XFX's unlocking! Oh, wow, so he's got two essential 290Xs on water? Very nice, congratulations! http://www.techpowerup.com/194777/asus-announces-the-rog-mars-760-dual-gpu-graphics-card.html It's happeningggggggggg  e: Not being familiar with dual-card designs, does the arrangement of the VRAM look good or could it be better? Sidesaddle Cavalry fucked around with this message at 16:17 on Nov 19, 2013 |
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Nov 19, 2013 15:41
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Sidesaddle Cavalry posted:Oh, wow, so he's got two essential 290Xs on water? Very nice, congratulations! And Agreed's Ti hasn't even arrived yet. 
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Sidesaddle Cavalry posted:Oh, wow, so he's got two essential 290Xs on water? Very nice, congratulations! I have exactly that. I unlocked them last night.   Now I just need to figure out how to adjust voltage on the ASUS tweak thingy. I tried going straight to my old 290 overclock and immediately crashed the machine because I didn't have enough voltage. Woops. Whats really funny though, when I installed the waterblocks, I got a good chuckle out of how there is 1337 etched on the chip. And apparently that 1337 etch is the winning mark for unlocking.
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Mine will be arriving today, so this afternoon I'll see if I'm "1337" or not.  I sure hope everything goes smoothly!Edit: vvv 
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Nov 19, 2013 16:09
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All y'alls make me want to spend money I don't have to do The Mod to my (formerly Agreed's) 680, along with swapping in a slim BR drive so the second radiator would fit. The reference cooler is far and away the loudest thing in this Prodigy.
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Nov 19, 2013 16:11
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Ghostpilot posted:And Agreed's Ti hasn't even arrived yet. Yeah, why the hell am I the face of this crap, I didn't just spend $4K to play games at higher than 4K c'mon guys quit teasing me 
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Oh holy crap. The Mod! I want to do this now. Tripple H100s in my system.  Already spent close to $1k on various upgrades over the last week, making me Agreed Jr. I guess. I have a bunch of unused 5 1/4 bays I could probably mount those too as well. This. loving. Thread 
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Man EVGA get your poo poo together and ship this puppy, I don't want to have to be on a 650Ti for more than like a day, tops, 30% of the performance of a 780? Pffft what am I gonna do, play browser tower defense games? (yes) (also after the 780Ti comes in, have y'all HEARD of Gemcraft Labyrinth? That poo poo is off the chain) I'd like to note that the only reason this is an outrageous expenditure at all is because I'm doing it twice, but that I recouped about 2/3rds of what I paid for the 780 and that knocks the 780Ti down to under $300 out of pocket, and also G-Sync is seriously gonna rule  veedubfreak, man, are you making GBS threads me that the ones that unlock actually have 1337 imprinted on them? Haha, if that's true I don't even know what to think anymore. Also, can you confirm or deny that any of your reference coolers were blemished and scored to poo poo from the factory like the ones that tomshardware wrote about? That was pretty outrageous, some serious lack of contact considering the transistor density and very high watt/transistor... At least we can count on Tom's to get to the bottom of any
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Agreed posted:Man EVGA get your poo poo together and ship this puppy, I don't want to have to be on a 650Ti for more than like a day, tops, 30% of the performance of a 780? Pffft what am I gonna do, play browser tower defense games? (yes) (also after the 780Ti comes in, have y'all HEARD of Gemcraft Labyrinth? That poo poo is off the chain) Agreed does have a point, I suppose we're all Veedubfreakazoids.  I'll take a picture of mine if I'm so fortunate as to have the 1337 distinction on my card.
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Agreed posted:Yeah, why the hell am I the face of this crap, I didn't just spend $4K to play games at higher than 4K c'mon guys quit teasing me To be fair, I'm going to sell my 3 30s for more than I spent buying my 3 27s. I just need to get off my rear end and put them up for sale. But I'm dreading dealing with Craigslist people. I didn't really look at the contact patch of the heatsink itself, but the shroud and everything was perfectly fine. Also, the amount of tim and spread looked pretty normal compared to all my previous reference cards. I'll have a look at the coolers when I get home. veedubfreak fucked around with this message at 17:34 on Nov 19, 2013 |
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Nov 19, 2013 17:32
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Agreed posted:Man EVGA get your poo poo together and ship this puppy, I don't want to have to be on a 650Ti for more than like a day, tops, 30% of the performance of a 780? Pffft what am I gonna do, play browser tower defense games? (yes) (also after the 780Ti comes in, have y'all HEARD of Gemcraft Labyrinth? That poo poo is off the chain) Gemcraft Labyrinth is loving legit, no arguments there 
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Oh god drat it, while they were doing the whole "if it's over $500, we have to verify it" thing it looks like it went out of stock again. So I'm going to be sitting with my thumb up my rear end and running a 650Ti minus $750 in the bank for an indefinite amount of time it looks like. That is one temporarily expensive 650Ti.  Edit: On the plus side I can make some more headway in Cursed Treasure 2. drat you, flying eagle druids. Agreed fucked around with this message at 19:12 on Nov 19, 2013 |
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GPU Megathread - click to watch Agreed play the finest Flash games on the planet (while waiting for the excruciating production trickle of paper launch cards) GPU Megathread - Explosive Wallet Diarrhea Quarantine, Highly Contagious, DO NOT CLICK GPU Megathread - The "Pull That Reference Cooler Off Of Your 290 Like It's On Fire" Thread Sidesaddle Cavalry fucked around with this message at 19:39 on Nov 19, 2013 |
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veedubfreak posted:Whats really funny though, when I installed the waterblocks, I got a good chuckle out of how there is 1337 etched on the chip. And apparently that 1337 etch is the winning mark for unlocking. Do you mean on the chip itself, or just somewhere on the board? If the latter, then it definitely wasn't the case for me. Upon taking off the reference cooler yesterday, I noticed I had the 1337 marking too, and all I got from flashing was a bricked Uber BIOS. Well, I say that now, but who knows. Maybe after it became a 290X, it suffered from that apparent black screen bug that's going around for some. Or maybe my 290 is just too 1337 to be a 290X.  Sidesaddle Cavalry posted:GPU Megathread - click to watch Agreed play the finest Flash games on the planet (while waiting for the excruciating production trickle of paper launch cards) They are all so good, but I have to go with the third one. Or, better yet: GPU Megathread - Like Buying Expensive Whores, but Without the Sex. GPU Megathread - 290 Aftermarkets? HA! Who Needs Them When You Have Zip Ties and an H80? GPU Megathread - GET THE BEST GPU TO BROWSE SA WITH! NOW FOR THE LOW LOW PRICE OF $700!
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My 290 and cooler came in but I seem to have encountered a stumbling block. I have all of the required screws removed (all of those on the bottom and the two on the rear) but the stock heatsink isn't budging. Is there something I'm missing or should I just put a little elbow grease into removing the heatsink? Edit: Scratch that, I gently pried it off with a plastic spoon. There was just that much thermal paste on the thing. Unless I'm mistaken, my card is 1337! 
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Nov 19, 2013 20:33
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GPU Megathread - Live vicariously through someone else's purchases
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cs115UqQ4sE So ASUS put out a single-card, dual-GPU solution... with dual 760s.
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It would've been better with dual gtx 770s.
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Nov 19, 2013 21:21
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To lap the Gelid heat sink or not to lap (I hate lapping, you guys). Also, turns out that replacing the cooler on a XFX only voids the warranty if you are outside of the US. So that comes as a big relief.
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Lolcano Eruption posted:It would've been better with dual gtx 770s. That's called a GTX 690.
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Factory Factory posted:That's called a GTX 690. Could put 7 GHz memory on it and call it a 790 
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Gonkish posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cs115UqQ4sE It's dual 2 GB 760s, right? Would a dual 4GB 760 card would be marketed as having 8GB total, or does it not work that way?
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Yeah, dual 2GBs. They're advertising it as 4GB, so I'd assume a 4GB/card version would be advertised as 8GB.
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Just as a heads up for anyone putting an aftermarket cooler on a 290/x, the thermal pads on the vrms leave an oily residue that is best removed with a gentle rubbing with a pencil eraser. Might explain why people were experiencing failures with the thermal tapes. Edit: The thermal tape included with the Gelids are 3M's. Ghostpilot fucked around with this message at 22:54 on Nov 19, 2013 |
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Gonkish posted:Yeah, dual 2GBs. They're advertising it as 4GB, so I'd assume a 4GB/card version would be advertised as 8GB. Which is a lie because two cards at 2GB does not equal 4GB at all. Or I was told wrong.
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Athropos posted:Which is a lie because two cards at 2GB does not equal 4GB at all. Or I was told wrong. True or not, it's a lie that's been industry standard since the Voodoo 5 at least.
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Ghostpilot posted:the thermal pads on the vrms leave an oily residue that is best removed with a gentle rubbing with a pencil eraser.
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I vote we go with: GPU Megathread - Do as we say not as we do Because I am absolutely, positively and definitely not sketching out a custom 540mm rad water loop for my old FT-02 case just so I can run a 290(X^) (or two*) without having my house burn down (to be honest my 2x 760s do not run at good temps because my ambients are atrocious (chilly 31°C right now)). ^ If the firmware takes * (or three) deimos fucked around with this message at 00:20 on Nov 20, 2013 |
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SLI/Crossfire memory access is parallel and sorta-mirrored, not additive and striped. You don't get 4GB worth of Skyrim texture mods, you just get unusually quick access to whatever each card has. Hence this being a disappointing card with a cool concept.  deimos posted:I vote we go with: GPU Megathread - Agreed Lied, Dollars Died (I like yours best tbh it's beautifully succinct and perfectly reflects the state of things, just look at us, loving filthy monsters all)
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Any chance we will see any sort of price drops for something like a 780ti on black friday or maybe Christmas? When I heard about the EVGA step up program I got exicted because I have a 670 FTW but I guess the program is a little more limited in scope than the name implies. Don't get me wrong this card is great and is overclocked like crazy but it's not getting 60 fps in Ultra on Bf4 and that is not the only reason I want to upgrade I swear. GPU Megathread - AMD R290X-Methyl-Ethyl-Ketone
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Fallows posted:Any chance we will see any sort of price drops for something like a 780ti on black friday or maybe Christmas? When I heard about the EVGA step up program I got exicted because I have a 670 FTW but I guess the program is a little more limited in scope than the name implies. Don't get me wrong this card is great and is overclocked like crazy but it's not getting 60 fps in Ultra on Bf4 and that is not the only reason I want to upgrade I swear. SH/TCC As to the question, my crystal ball is broken but Black Friday sales can get pretty nuts, it wouldn't be totally unprecedented for a high end card to go on sale in very limited quantities as a loss-leader to move less outrageous deals on the whole lineup of cards. Amazon is definitely gearing up for computer electronics, Newegg won't disappoint (they usually have really good Cyber Monday deals too, though more often on peripherals, mobos, cases, sometimes external HDDs - if I weren't committed to hanging with my current monitor until G-Sync ones come out, I'd be camping their monitors section for deals on big 1600p monitors). I wouldn't expect a lot of people to get good deals on the very highest end cards of the current generation, if that goes on I reckon it'll be more like the "GET THIS BADASS TV FOR A HUNDRED BUCKS* limited to quantity on hand, which is three, enjoy our fine selection of TVs that are only 15% off"... but I wouldn't be too surprised if retailers with older high end cards use this as an opportunity to blow them out. The 690 sitting at $1K still is kind of embarrassing, for example, and demand for the 7990 is not exceptional even though its price is pretty fair after they dropped it, all things considered. EVGA Step Up: the coolest sounding bait and switch ever. Awesome if you're buying mid-range, price:performance cards and genuinely intend to upgrade to one of the reference higher end models later on. Useless if you buy high end stuff and think to yourself, oh, wouldn't it be cool if they came out with, I dunno, a 6GB model of this exact same card in a few months and I could step up to it? Because that's almost certainly going to be considered by them to be a limited edition, and those are excluded from step-up. They rules-lawyer the hell out of that. Much more lenient on their warranty, though, they don't even care if you use aftermarket cooling and then goof and fry your chip overclocking it too much, so long as you stick the shroud back on before you send it in for service.
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Yea I'm gonna just wait and cross my fingers on a price break. I have a friend who wants to take my 670 off my hands for 200, but can't quite pay me yet. So if I can get that and maybe spend around $500 more total I can feel pretty justified in buying one. Maybe for the time being I will just see how much juice I can squeeze out of this 670 FTW. I've never done a real OC on a GPU(i just cranked the mhz up by 70 and called it a day when I got it) as most of the time I've never needed to just , but I really want to play BF4 with those textures all the way up. I should have never changed it to ultra, now it pains me to play just on high! Take advantage of this warranty.
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Agreed posted:SH/TCC I can't decide whether it's best to jump on the MSI 780 Lightning now to pick up the game bundle, or wait until Black Friday/Cyber Monday and hope for a discount or otherwise a Newegg coupon code that currently can't be used with the 780s due to the game bundle. I could also wait and see what the after-market 290s look like (ideally a Matrix card since I really want a card with load-indicating leds), but I'm leaning more toward Team Green now.
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Fallows posted:Maybe for the time being I will just see how much juice I can squeeze out of this 670 FTW. I've never done a real OC on a GPU(i just cranked the mhz up by 70 and called it a day when I got it) as most of the time I've never needed to just , but I really want to play BF4 with those textures all the way up. I should have never changed it to ultra, now it pains me to play just on high! Take advantage of this warranty.
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Fallows posted:Yea I'm gonna just wait and cross my fingers on a price break. I have a friend who wants to take my 670 off my hands for 200, but can't quite pay me yet. So if I can get that and maybe spend around $500 more total I can feel pretty justified in buying one. I don't want to say it's impossible to kill your card without doing BIOS modifications, but... It's really, really hard. Cards handle a too-heavy overclock gracefully under all but the most extreme temperature situations. The only way you could actually expect to damage the card is if somehow you put it in a situation where it attempts to draw more power than your PSU can provide. Apart from that, nVidia (and EVGA, for that matter) have been careful in designating the allowed deviance from nominal values in overclocking, sometimes in a rather draconian fashion - GTX 780s, for example, only allow 38mV of overvolting. If Precision X allows you to make the voltage change, it's almost certainly safe. If you push the core too much or the memory too much, you'll driver crash (or, in extreme situations, hard lock or bluescreen and it'll reset to factory on booting back up). Manufacturers are not super keen on the idea of people killing their cards and pointing angry fingers, and EVGA's FTW version should be pretty carefully binned for performance anyway. It's almost certain that you'll run into the hard TDP limit before you can do anything that would damage the card. There are five user exposed protections but several other safeguards to protect the hardware from damage. Overclocking a graphics card has been made much safer than overclocking a CPU, with the trade-off being that you can't go quite as crazy on a GPU since they're already careful in the validation and binning process and don't have much "waste" for you to take advantage of anyway. I don't want to give you a false sense of untouchable security, it is possible to damage a card by overclocking it, but it's really, really difficult. SourKraut posted:I can't decide whether it's best to jump on the MSI 780 Lightning now to pick up the game bundle, or wait until Black Friday/Cyber Monday and hope for a discount or otherwise a Newegg coupon code that currently can't be used with the 780s due to the game bundle. I could also wait and see what the after-market 290s look like (ideally a Matrix card since I really want a card with load-indicating leds), but I'm leaning more toward Team Green now. Well, the 780 is an extremely powerful card - so powerful that even though GK110 was taped out and has been in production since the 600 series, just limited to compute cards, it's still neck and neck with AMD's next-gen top models. The MSI 780 Lightning seems to have some pretty extraordinary cooling and power delivery upgrades that should take it from "badass" to "super duper badass" - if you get a good chip, and I'd hope that with all the fancy poo poo they're doing on it compared to a stock 780 they are binning for performance, I imagine it would let you take it to the absolute limit of the GTX 780's performance capabilities, which are really something. The introduction of the 780Ti is just for people like me who have brain problems and want the bestest fastest wooo while sticking with nVidia regardless of the cost. If you want a high-performance card from nVidia, the GTX 780 is still very clearly the smarter purchase, end of story  It's up to you whether you want to wait it out on the AMD side of things, but it's pretty much a given thanks to the intrepid early adopters who have gone to the trouble to replace AMD's problematic cooling solution with something more effective that the 290 and 290x are literally the same card in many cases capable of some great overclocking. I don't know what good a LED load indicator will do you, but then I wasn't all over the light-up on nVidia's high end reference units for the 780 either, just seems like a bit of unnecessary bling. Is your case located such that you're going to be staring at the card's load indicator a lot? I'd think you'd be more interested in what's being displayed on your monitor, haha. There are a lot of good reasons to keep AMD in mind right now, they have the best price:performance before taking after-market cooling requirements for top results into account, and once they do get some partner non-reference models they'll almost surely cement the price:performance crown for real. Right now, it's basically a fist-fight between a 780 and a 290+aftermarket cooler, and right now I think the 780 offers a better value proposition because of the games bundle. Use them because you want the games and you saved AAA-game prices times three, or sell them and you're around the cost of an AMD R9 290. If there were no bundle, the value proposition would probably be a little less kind to nVidia, so it'll be interesting to see what happens if AMD is able to work their development partners (in particular, EA, since they're being miserly about who gets Battlefield 4 vouchers) into a similarly nice current-gen AAA games bundle... Plus the aftermarket coolers everyone is waiting on so they don't have to factor the cost and hassle of an Accelero or whatever into the purchase price just to get the performance from their presumably preferred company. Black Friday/Cyber Monday deals are an unknown, could be great, could be mediocre, we'll just have to wait and see. If you're uncomfortable waiting and seeing, well, you know the value proposition as it stands in the $400-$550 region, make your move Edit: In me me me news, looks like EVGA came through for me after all despite a temporary stock issue, they got it shipped out! I'm looking at having the 780Ti on Thursday, score Sidesaddle, you have been an absolute champ, if I can swing it I'll see if I can't make us "new graphics card day" buddies.I set up another stock notification to my cell, too, and they are currently in stock - if you're gonna get stupid with some of us, I guess now's the time, strike while the iron's hot, etc. - available direct from EVGA's site here. Shipping's a bit pricey if you want to get it in more quickly before everything goes to poo poo due to Thanksgiving shopping, but when you're paying $730 for a GPU that's probably not a major concern. Agreed fucked around with this message at 04:33 on Nov 20, 2013 |
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