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So uh, what’s the chance we’ll see SFF sized 2070/2080 cards? From what it looks like, this gen doesn’t look cooler or more power efficient.
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2070 probably, 2080 I wouldn't hold your breath.
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Oct 19, 2018 02:07
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buglord posted:So uh, what’s the chance we’ll see SFF sized 2070/2080 cards? From what it looks like, this gen doesn’t look cooler or more power efficient. https://www.techpowerup.com/248653/zotac-intros-geforce-rtx-2070-mini-series It's kind of mentioned as an aside, but for whatever reason these omit the USB-C port for the new generation of VR headsets, yet includes DL-DVI for whatever reason.
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buglord posted:So uh, what’s the chance we’ll see SFF sized 2070/2080 cards? From what it looks like, this gen doesn’t look cooler or more power efficient. RTX 2080 Ti FE should fit into a Dan A4 
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Oct 19, 2018 07:50
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orcane posted:RTX 2080 Ti FE should fit into a Dan A4 im putting mine into an INWIN A-1 if anyone wants to see it when I get it
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Oct 19, 2018 08:03
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Arivia posted:It's nice to dream about a nice card for 1080p/60 or one that's better if we have another $20, but that's not the question we're being asked. Ataxerxes is saying they're under a tight budget, and that that very specific box pictured falls within what they can afford. We don't know the country or access to other sellers they have; we have to go by what's there. For the original question of "can this pictured product replace my 750ti" the answer is yes. It is not a bad card, MSI is a fine manufacturer, and it will meet or slightly exceed the current performance they have. As a replacement, it is suitable. Thanks for all the advice, US-Ebay isn't an option as I live in Finland and both shipping expenses and shipping times would be substantial, if shipping to Finland could be had at all. Currently that price is about what I can afford, the rest of my system is about 6 years old (i7 3770k processor, 8gb ram etc) and I'm looking to replace it in the next spring. Meanwhile I need a card that will carry me through about 6-9 months, that I can get right now and that is not worse than what I have. I'm looking into getting a G-synch monitor around December (we get tax returns then), would that increase performance also? Currently I mostly play War Thunder, Destiny 2 and older stuff that isn't AAA. Edit: Also, that picture is from the outlet section of a major local retailer and part of the reason I would prefer that place is that it would make possible replacement issues a piece of cake. If they have cards by AMD for cheap which sort of models would be reasonable for around the same price (~125€)? Ataxerxes fucked around with this message at 08:12 on Oct 19, 2018 |
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Oct 19, 2018 08:08
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Ataxerxes posted:Thanks for all the advice, US-Ebay isn't an option as I live in Finland and both shipping expenses and shipping times would be substantial, if shipping to Finland could be had at all. Currently that price is about what I can afford, the rest of my system is about 6 years old (i7 3770k processor, 8gb ram etc) and I'm looking to replace it in the next spring. Meanwhile I need a card that will carry me through about 6-9 months, that I can get right now and that is not worse than what I have. I'm looking into getting a G-synch monitor around December (we get tax returns then), would that increase performance also? Currently I mostly play War Thunder, Destiny 2 and older stuff that isn't AAA. G-sync won't increase performance but it will make it much smoother when you do have drops in fps. It updates the refresh rate of the monitor to the output of the video card within a specific range to eliminate things like stuttering and tearing.
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Oct 19, 2018 09:09
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Ataxerxes posted:
In general the Raden RX 560 is very close to the 1050 in performance.
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Oct 19, 2018 09:13
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More importantly, AMD cards don't work with g-sync monitors. If you go for AMD now, you'll confine your monitor options to freesync in December. On the upside, freesync monitors are cheaper.
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Oct 19, 2018 11:07
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il serpente cosmico posted:DF used the DX12 renderer. I'm the invisible graffiti artist at 7:45. Joking aside, decals aren't something you can just pop-in like that. It looks awful. At least mipmap it to a graffiti-shaped blur that comes into focus instead of just appearing. E: Also from that video 1060 holds its own against 980. 9xx and 10xx were really golden generations. Harik fucked around with this message at 11:55 on Oct 19, 2018 |
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Oct 19, 2018 11:43
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I just noticed that the same retailer has this: https://www.verkkokauppa.com/fi/product/28139/hqqnk/Asus-GeForce-GTX-1050Ti-PH-GTX1050TI-4G-4096-Mt-naytonohjain On special offer for the weekend. That difference in prices is small enough for me to, considering that the other GPU might not have been in a sealed box and it might not have full warranty, as opposed to this. Would the difference between that 1050 2G and this 1050ti 4gt be substantial enough to be worth the extra 50€? Edit: Noice levels are not something I need to bother about, so if this large fan is noisy it doesn't really matter that much. Ataxerxes fucked around with this message at 12:19 on Oct 19, 2018 |
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Oct 19, 2018 12:16
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Ataxerxes posted:I just noticed that the same retailer has this: https://www.verkkokauppa.com/fi/product/28139/hqqnk/Asus-GeForce-GTX-1050Ti-PH-GTX1050TI-4G-4096-Mt-naytonohjain Absolutely. A 1050ti’s 4GB memory fixes that bottleneck we were all worried about. I checked and ASUS doesn’t list that card as needing a power connector, so if you can fit it, go for it. (If it does, someone posted earlier in this conversation about how to convert one out of a molex power of you need that.)
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Oct 19, 2018 13:18
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ConanTheLibrarian posted:More importantly, AMD cards don't work with g-sync monitors. If you go for AMD now, you'll confine your monitor options to freesync in December. On the upside, freesync monitors are cheaper. People on tight budgets for video cards aren’t buying gsync monitors
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Oct 19, 2018 13:41
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Arivia posted:Absolutely. A 1050ti’s 4GB memory fixes that bottleneck we were all worried about. I checked and ASUS doesn’t list that card as needing a power connector, so if you can fit it, go for it. (If it does, someone posted earlier in this conversation about how to convert one out of a molex power of you need that.) Thanks, I'll go for that one then. I have a full tower case and my gpu before the 750ti was a double size one.
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Arivia posted:Absolutely. A 1050ti’s 4GB memory fixes that bottleneck we were all worried about. I checked and ASUS doesn’t list that card as needing a power connector, so if you can fit it, go for it. (If it does, someone posted earlier in this conversation about how to convert one out of a molex power of you need that.) 1050ti is a 75w card which is one of its biggest advantages. You can put them in basically anything- including refurbished dell/hp/lenovo SFF office machines, and have a computer that can play any game on great/good settings
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Oct 19, 2018 13:59
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Ok since everyone said rtx 2080 isn't much an upgrade over 1080ti. I got 2080ti founders edition since I couldn't find any aftermarket versions on stock. I found some being sold 2nd hand with RIDICULOUS prices. Even more ridiculous than RTX's regular pricing.
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Oct 19, 2018 14:04
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Risky Bisquick posted:People on tight budgets for video cards aren’t buying gsync monitors Except the poster he's responding to literally said he's looking to buy a gsync monitor in December.
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Oct 19, 2018 14:49
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at this point gsync tax looks less horrible when the high end cards are like $1500 lmao
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Oct 19, 2018 15:28
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Statutory Ape posted:1050ti is a 75w card which is one of its biggest advantages. You can put them in basically anything- including refurbished dell/hp/lenovo SFF office machines, and have a computer that can play any game on great/good settings Right but there are some with secondary power connectors and since we’d just talked about that with the even less powerful 1050 I figured it was worth clarifying.
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Oct 19, 2018 15:29
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Statutory Ape posted:at this point gsync tax looks less horrible when the high end cards are like $1500 lmao Don't need gsync when you can max the framerate anyway. Better to buy a 650ti so you get the most use out of the gsync capability.
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Oct 19, 2018 15:53
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Statutory Ape posted:at this point gsync tax looks less horrible when the high end cards are like $1500 lmao Gsync tax is letting me skip the overpriced 20xx generation and keep rolling with my 2 year old card, so hell yeah!
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Oct 19, 2018 16:23
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I'm glad it looks like there isn't a ton of point waiting for a 2060 right now. A 1060 6gb should do me well when I can pick one up 
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Oct 19, 2018 16:23
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Statutory Ape posted:at this point gsync tax looks less horrible when the high end cards are like $1500 lmao renaming titan has turned out to be a hell of a correct marketing move
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Cygni posted:renaming titan has turned out to be a hell of a correct marketing move They only did it because they didn't want the new ti to turn out being the same performance as the old ti card. So they got what would have been the new titan and moved the ti moniker to that. That's what the cynic in me thinks anyway. The ti traditionally didn't even show up for a few months after the initial x080 release. nvidia is getting too comfortable and I have no doubt some suits at both AMD and Intel are smelling blood among all the complacency
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Zedsdeadbaby posted:nvidia is getting too comfortable and I have no doubt some suits at both AMD and Intel are smelling blood among all the complacency they remarketed the Titan cause they knew from the mining rush that Big Gamers would still buy whatever the top end gaming marketed cards were even if they were $1200. and they were right, it seems. thats my take anyway.
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9900k reviews are starting to come out. Unfortunantly, both Tom's and Anandtech used a base 1080 GTX for their gaming tests, which means a GPU bottleneck is all but guaranteed at 1440p tests, and is apparent even in a lot of the 1080p tests. Anandtech hasn't posted their OC numbers on the 9900k yet, but they did get the 9700k stable at 5.3GHz (wouldn't boot at 5.4). Tom's hardware's OC results on the 9900k are a little disappointing. They used a Corsair's H115i v2 water cooler, and clocked it at 5.0ghz at 1.33v. The chip hit 85C during non-AVX stress tests. They ended up using a -200mhz AVX offset, and hit 95C during three hours of prime 95 with these settings. Adding two cores to essentially the same chip architecture sucks a lot of power, which means more heat. The soldered heat spreader helps deal with this extra power, but the overclocked chip drew 250 watts under heavy load, which is a lot. They benchmarked the 5.0GHz 9900k vs a 4.9GHz 8700k in their gaming tests. The difference is negligible, if anyone is thinking of upgrading from 8th gen to 9th gen. The added cores / threads are handy for producivity applications, but games don't appear to be making great use of the additional horizontal capacity right now. I am looking forward to Digital Foundry's review. They always use a burly GPU to eliminate bottlenecks as best as they can. il serpente cosmico fucked around with this message at 18:39 on Oct 19, 2018 |
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Oct 19, 2018 17:35
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Nvidia are releasing a new GTX1060 variant with 6GB of GDDR5X for some reason  https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/geforce/products/10series/geforce-gtx-1060/
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Oct 19, 2018 18:36
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Perhaps they ordered more gddr5x memory than they needed and put it to good use
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Oct 19, 2018 18:41
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repiv posted:Nvidia are releasing a new GTX1060 variant with 6GB of GDDR5X for some reason what is this post
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Oct 19, 2018 18:41
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Statutory Ape posted:what is this post Frame Buffer 6 GB GDDR5/X the x wasn't there until recently
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Oct 19, 2018 18:42
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maybe to counter the RX 590 thats launching soon? or maybe Nvidia doesn't formally offer GP102 or GP104 in the product list anymore and there is leftover 5X to burn? both? neither? horses are just big dogs?
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Oct 19, 2018 18:49
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good catch then, people. its good that in 2018 we're getting yet another 1060 variant also its good in 2018 that nvidia just made me restart my computer to do a driver update which once again reset my desktop settings el oh el
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Oct 19, 2018 18:51
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I guess that's the rumoured Pascal overstock making itself felt they couldn't all be 1080s or 1080tis
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ronya posted:I guess that's the rumoured Pascal overstock making itself felt Part of the rumor is that the new 1060 refresh is actually using GP104 cores instead of GP106. So it might just be 1080's after all.
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Oct 19, 2018 19:04
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my 2080ti already shipped :0
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Oct 19, 2018 19:38
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Is there anybody that could make some intelligent speculation as to what this gens 1050ti might perform like?
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Statutory Ape posted:Is there anybody that could make some intelligent speculation as to what this gens 1050ti might perform like? If the rest of the lineup has been any clue, it'll probably be similar to the 1060
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Oct 19, 2018 23:06
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il serpente cosmico posted:If the rest of the lineup has been any clue, it'll probably be similar to the 1060 and cost $50 more 
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Cygni posted:and cost $50 more Won't it have the RTX stuff stripped off it? With any luck it won't have an inflated price. AMD should have some competitive parts in that price range, unlike the high end, which could also help.
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Beautiful Ninja posted:Part of the rumor is that the new 1060 refresh is actually using GP104 cores instead of GP106. So it might just be 1080's after all. Wouldn't that undercut the 2070 in a major way? I guess if it's just 1070 tier performance it's not so bad.
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