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My ASUS 670 DC2 TOP that just arrived is incredibly unstable, the drivers will crash after a few minutes in Skyrim and even with a hefty underclock it crashed to dekstop after about half an hour. And it seems there's quite a few others popping up on Nvidia's forums. I wouldn't recommend these anyone to anyone at this point, I'm thinking of exchanging it for the regular DC2.
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No, the driver crashes, forcing both screens to black (both connected via DVI, but it also happened when I unplugged one) for 2-3 seconds, once it recovers the performance is about 20% of what it was previously but the GPU is running at 100% until you tab out and back in (which does not help in full screen windowed mode). At first I was running Process Explorer to monitor VRAM, I then installed AfterBurner to get temps. I rolled the driver back to 301.34 and ran without any monitoring. It continues to happen, almost like clockwork.
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May 29, 2012 22:27
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Socialism posted:Got the exact same error with my 670 DC2Top. Mine crashes after a couple rounds of Heaven 3.0 - GPU-Z shows max core clock of 1280MHz, temp of 79c and voltage of 1.175. I'm going to underclock to the regular 670 stock speeds and try some games that are more stable than modded Skyrim and see how it does when I get home. I will probably RMA it regardless because I paid for that overclock like you said. The cooler is pretty awesome, that was why I considering trading down to the regular DC2 VV It is too early to say, I wouldn't judge it just yet. Given how rare they are still it was discouraging to see several posts on this exact model on Nvidia's forums. Hamburger Test fucked around with this message at 10:58 on May 30, 2012 |
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May 30, 2012 09:03
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Hamburger Test posted:I'm going to underclock to the regular 670 stock speeds and try some games that are more stable than modded Skyrim and see how it does when I get home. I will probably RMA it regardless because I paid for that overclock like you said. The cooler is pretty awesome, that was why I considering trading down to the regular DC2 I went a different route instead. I downloaded the Heaven benchmark (haven't touched one of these since I was 15), and found that my card benchmarks reliably at -20MHz. Which allows it to reach 1202 with GPU Boost or something? It is still a pretty solid overclock compared to stock, but I can't say I'm happy with it. At -15MHz it didn't last half way through the benchmark and a few textures started glitching at stage 2. Since I did -15 before -20 I don't think it was heat buildup, the GPU temperature never passed 76C anyway. I found a screenshot of someone having success bumping the voltage up, but I have no idea whether that is something I dare touch; especially since I am still considering the RMA. Also here is something I don't quite get. Afterburner claims the memory reaches 3005 MHz at the most, but the specs for the 670 says it is supposed to use 6.008 GHz VRam. What is going on here?
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May 30, 2012 17:39
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Update on my 670 TOP. I decided to return it for a full refund, since the RMA process apparently takes about 3-4 weeks on average. I just hope they don't try to restock it before letting ASUS test it. I did tell the rep about the issue up front, so I don't have any qualms about it. New card arrived and it benches at +40 MHz, and has an equally higher boost as well. So it's actually stable (so far) at 1306 MHz though I'm not sure I'll want to keep it that high, it's certainly no longer quiet at that speed. Judging from posts in this thread: http://www.overclock.net/t/1259425/asus-670-directcu-ii-top/540 ASUS seems to have been a little too optimistic with their selection of chips to go into this model. Most are good, but more than a few are unstable at "stock".
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Jun 1, 2012 17:35
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KKKLIP ART posted:So from reading this thread, people seem to be having problem with the Asus TOP GTX670 cards, is there anything I should know to look out for or not do? It should be here tuesday or wednesday. If it is bad the driver crashes giving you a black screen for a few seconds until windows recovers, how that manifests in games depends on the game. Diablo 3 handles it gracefully and lets you continue after a few seconds - but your frame rate will tank, BF3 does not and becomes unresponsive. Hamburger Test fucked around with this message at 07:56 on Jun 2, 2012 |
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Jun 2, 2012 07:53
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HalloKitty posted:Don't know where 10% is coming from, all the reviews I saw show the 670 beating the 680 by a very small amount (1-3% or so) on every test I think he means at the actual 670 stock speeds, not the factory overclocked "stock" speeds.
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Jun 2, 2012 10:38
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Factory Factory posted:Asus's DCII 670 is quieter under load than a 690 is at idle. I love the DCII 670 now that I have one that doesn't crash the drivers. It is worth noting that (the TOP version at least) will probably pass 70C and downclock itself unless you change the fan profile. In my case I can keep it below 70C and still not be able to hear it over my case fans. I think they exhaust most of the air inside the cabinet, so if you actually decide to SLI two of them you might want to make sure you have the airflow sorted.
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Jun 4, 2012 15:22
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I read about it in the thread I linked earlier on overclock.net, at first I thought it was FUD; but I observed the core clock dropping a bit in MSI Afterburner when the temperature passed 70C. I can't remember if it was overclocked at the time or not, but if it was it would have been Afterburner. E: Actually, I'll test it out with no fan profile in GPU-Z when I get home. Should be pretty easy to see. E2: Easy to see, a little harder to screenshot. Only 13.1 MHz, but it happens at 70.0C in both Skyrim and Diablo 3.  No other GPU tools loaded, this is just a plain factory overclock. Hamburger Test fucked around with this message at 17:31 on Jun 4, 2012 |
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Jun 4, 2012 15:33
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Alereon posted:hooking up a $650 videocard to a power supply that costs 5% of that? 13.8% on sale. SeaSonic is a drat good brand, altho spending a little more for a gold rated one would be reasonable if you can drop $650 on the videocard..
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May 24, 2013 18:48
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lovely Treat posted:High res texture pack at that resolution will be filling up that 1.5GB. I'm running the official High Res texture pack, as well as a few other visual mods at 2560x1440. My VRAM usage rarely goes over 1.5GB, it's usually in the 1.4 area though which would be a problem for this guy. But 2GB at 1920x1080 sounds like hyperbole, or people who install 4K grass textures.
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May 25, 2013 11:44
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Badmana posted:What program are you using to determine vram use? MSI Afterburner. And yea, it sounds like you'd be right near the cap without AA. You should be able to crank up AF I believe. There's also a mod that reduces some of the textures in the HD pack without giving up a lot of the visuals, since some of the textures in that pack are also larger than they need to be.
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May 25, 2013 13:33
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The Lord Bude posted:I think there is still a use case for a 780, or a pair of 760s, at the extreme end of 1080p performance. Now if someone said they wanted 3 780s in tri SLi, then I'd try to talk them down, because that literally wouldn't be providing them any benefit at all. http://blogs.windows.com/windows/b/...per-second.aspx 3x4k posted:With all settings on “High” except shadow detail and particles, we were able to maintain 62-67fps average, peaking over 70fps. We were both able to experience this awesome gaming setup for several minutes each before the PSU would reset due to power overload. Perhaps we didn’t have 50 watts to spare. We reached our goal and were able to see into the future of multi-mon gaming. Now that’s a great day at work!
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Jul 26, 2013 14:35
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Digital Jesus posted:I'll mess around with it tomorrow. My Swiftech pump seems to be on its way out (only 6 weeks old, drat it) so the noise from that is making it harder to really tell (and driving me loving crazy). This was a while ago with the current pace of this thread. Your pump probably has an air bubble in it, if you email Swiftech about it they will give you instructions on how to possibly remove it. Personally I have just put the case on it's side until I can be arsed with the procedure, and actually have some distilled water on hand to top up the reservoir.
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Oct 28, 2013 12:39
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Agreed posted:Word of warning, don't buy the 780, they're going to knock like $170 off the price and you're going to feel dumb as heck. Is this a serious prediction? Because I'm sitting here hoping for nVidia's response to the 290, since I would prefer to stick with them for now. If it doesn't come though, I can wait for the custom cooled 290's.
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Nov 11, 2013 01:44
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My French is so rusty it may as well not exist, so going with the Google translate it sounds like they attribute PNY's low return rate to their sales mostly being in the lower end which generally have a lower failure rate?
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Jan 15, 2014 15:43
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Anecdotal evidence for the AMD / nVidia software bonfire: https://forums.geforce.com/default/topic/573811/nvidia-streamer-service-may-be-freezing-your-pc/ That started happening to me last week. On top of that GeForce Experience itself often took up most of a core when nothing else was going on, removed that piece of poo poo for now.
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Jan 31, 2014 22:38
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Agreed posted:No, just a long, storied history of "NO, YOUR BRAND loving SUCKS!" back and forth. It came up a couple of days ago again that nVidia's drivers were more stable, and then the counter. This is just another piece of evidence that both companies release lovely software; it's pretty even in my experience when adding it all up. I think ShadowPlay is neat, but it's not worth dealing with GeForce Experience.
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Feb 1, 2014 00:30
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spasticColon posted:When you say reference do you mean it has the crappy reference cooler on it but the GPU temp only peaks at 58 C while under load? As a dedicated PhysX card, which shouldn't tax a 670 too much.
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Feb 5, 2014 10:57
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I think AMD still have issues with new games more often, if you don't play a lot of games at launch you'll probably not run into more issues with one's drivers over the other's. Personally I value performance/noise higher than performance/price and if the lower power draw on the new nVidias holds true, then that's probably enough for me to pick nVidia again. I also tend to keep my cards a bit longer than most in this thread, and with a high tax on electricity I might make the difference back.
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Sep 17, 2014 09:53
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Stanley Pain posted:Flip AMD/NVIDIA at will and you have the truth Anecdotal of course, but I remember more high profile releases that had problems on AMD than nVidia. Without going into the slap fights that arose over them or the quality of the games themselves, RAGE and Watch Dogs come to mind with nVidia coming out ahead, and I can't come up with anything clearly favoring AMD.
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Sep 17, 2014 13:24
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It gets even worse if you're running Crossfire/SLI.
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FSMC posted:It's really strange. I have no reason to upgrade from my 660ti. All I want to 4k 120khz(for 3d), but that way to much for any graphics card in the near future. So there is like a dual reason for me not to upgrade, my current graphics card is powerful enough for any games and any new graphics cards aren't powerful enough for what I really want. That's ridiculous. There are significant upgrades in between these two scenarios, and your dream scenario is not possible currently for reasons other than GPU power.
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Sep 19, 2014 00:15
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I was almost sure I was going to grab a 980, since I was almost committed to getting one of the 34" 21:9 screens. But with the price on that 970 I'm now contemplating "settling" with one of those and staying with my K-IPS while I hope Displayport 1.2a with Adaptive sync becomes standard before I cave in to upgrade urges.
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Sep 19, 2014 09:44
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Just found a MSI GeForce GTX 980 Gaming about 1300-1600 DKK or 200-300$ below other offerings. There goes my willpower. Fingers crossed they don't catch it before it's confirmed. webhallen.dk Note, still more expensive than 970 around these parts, but not by much.
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Sep 19, 2014 12:10
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The original site is Swedish, and on that section the price is at the level of other custom 980s. I haven't gotten an actual order confirmation yet which I think is when it becomes legally binding. Shops here usually send a "bestilling" confirmation before the the "ordre" confirmation. Both words translate to "order"... There are some intricacies about "offer" and "invitation to make an offer" in consumer law, but I'm probably not going to fight too hard for it if it falls through.
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Sep 19, 2014 13:13
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drat. The vendor caught their pricing error, so I won't be getting the MSI 980 at 40% off. Ordered the MSI 970 at a different shop, saved ~40$ and won't have to wait 3 weeks for stock. This is going to be so awesome 670 to 970 at 1440 - and will finally be rid of that loving coil whine that has been building up over the last 8-9 months.
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Sep 22, 2014 08:51
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On the other end of the scale: http://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/msi_geforce_gtx_970_gaming_review,7.html quote:GeForce GTX 970 or 980 - On your average system the card requires you to have a 500 Watt power supply unit.
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Sep 22, 2014 10:27
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Icept posted:They cancelled my order as well Yea, Komplett and ProShop were the same price but Komplett actually have stock.
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Sep 22, 2014 15:09
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HalloKitty posted:Lower cost, lower power consumption, often higher benchmarks than even a 290X. Even at 2560*1440 the 970 comes out ahead most of the time. It doesn't seem like the memory bandwidth is as limiting for this chip as it has been previously.
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Sep 24, 2014 09:17
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Agreed posted:Can someone with one of these and the ability to capture framerate do just that with something like one of the Metro games' benchmarks with PhysX off and PhysX on? I'm hoping that the scheduling and execution efficiency improvements will do the necessary heavy lifting to make it so that juggling workloads isn't so finicky, but then I think about how I don't think their memory compression for textures is going to do all that much to help with the conventional memory bottleneck for CUDA calculations. MSI Gaming 970 at "stock", i5 4670 at 4.2GHz, MetroLLbenchmark code:code:code:
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Sep 24, 2014 18:14
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Grim Up North posted:https://mediacru.sh/ https://mediacru.sh/d4f8849be18f/focus PhysX on: https://mediacru.sh/de416781ae56/focus
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Sep 24, 2014 18:56
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Agreed posted:No co-processor at all, strictly the 970? Yea, just the 970 - it is factory overclocked however but I'm guessing that wouldn't factor in much. I haven't actually played any of the Metros even though I have owned them for a while. I totally mean to but I just haven't been in the mood yet. I am looking forward to trying Borderlands:PS with PhysX however. E: oops, meant to edit the above post.
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Sep 24, 2014 19:00
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1gnoirents posted:Hey what are you using for the graph? The fraps viewer I used was kind of annoying Those are actually produced by MetroLLBenchmark. I did just install RivaTunerStatisticsServer with MSI Afterburner to see if it could do the stats for me, but it turned out I didn't need them.
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These shortages are odd to me. I've seen Komplett in Scandinavia list something like 83 MSI 970s in stock once, every other time I have checked they have been at 100+.
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Sep 24, 2014 21:33
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Had a strange issue with MSI's 970. After couple of hours the VRM fan apparently went full tilt, only I don't think you can see the speed of it anywhere so I had to take the side off and inspect every fan to find out which one it was. It continued to spin at full speed even after a reboot and manually changing the speed in Afterburner. Only a complete shutdown managed to stop it. The main GPU fan was idle and all temperature readers from GPU, CPU and motherboard were in the mid 30s. I hope this isn't going to be a recurring issue. Hamburger Test fucked around with this message at 00:19 on Sep 25, 2014 |
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Looks like Talion from Shadow of Mordor to me.Hamburger Test posted:Had a strange issue with MSI's 970. After couple of hours the VRM fan apparently went full tilt, only I don't think you can see the speed of it anywhere so I had to take the side off and inspect every fan to find out which one it was. It continued to spin at full speed even after a reboot and manually changing the speed in Afterburner. Only a complete shutdown managed to stop it. The main GPU fan was idle and all temperature readers from GPU, CPU and motherboard were in the mid 30s. https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?topic=183618.0 Looks like I'm not the only one That's the MSI Gaming branded 970 on the most recent official driver. Hamburger Test fucked around with this message at 09:27 on Sep 26, 2014 |
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Sep 26, 2014 09:23
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TomWaitsForNoMan posted:So what are the generally accepted quietest coolers? ASUS Strix and MSI Twin Frozr? Those two plus the Palit non reference are all very quiet, not quite sure about Gigabyte's.
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Kornjaca posted:According to the MSI forum mod: Worth noting that the mods are not MSI employees as far as I can tell. I reported this issue Thursday last week. After rolling back to 344.11 I ran into the issue where the main fan didn't spin even tho it was supposed to be doing 100%, a nudge made it run "normally". I then reinstalled 344.16 and haven't had any issues since. I haven't tried flashing the BIOS. And to the temperature discussion. Mine idles in the low 30's at just about the same temps as the motherboard. I really wouldn't worry about having the fans running at idle - unless of course that alleviates the other problems. Should note that I have a 350D with 2 front 140mm fans, but they don't really go aboive 7-800 rpms.
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BurritoJustice posted:Looking around the net all 900 series cards had fan problems with the old drivers. Which is why NVidia pushed out a new driver a couple hours after release. If you just use 344.16 you shouldn't have problems. I said I rolled back to 344.11, that was because I was having a problem not because I thought that would be an awesome idea. It could be that I nudged the fan just right, it could be that some specific order of uninstalling and reinstalling fixed it - or I could just haven been lucky these last two days that the problems have not returned yet and that they will as soon as I start playing Shadow of Mordor (after work). When it works it is a very good cooler, can barely hear it and stays just over 60c in high workloads. Does BF4 in 2560x1440 Ultra (2*AA instead of 4*) at 70+ fps.
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