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latinotwink1997
Jan 2, 2008

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VostokProgram posted:

Is there still time to say my 970 is trucking along on 1440p165Hz

What games you play with that? I got a 970 but haven't gotten a 1440p yet, thinking I'd need a better card to drive it.

1337 p4g3 4 a11 t3h c001 k1dz.

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latinotwink1997
Jan 2, 2008

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Don Lapre posted:

The leak was real



https://hothardware.com/news/nvidia-intern-may-have-leaked-pics-titan-volta-gpu



Nvidia has had these since atleast may internally

They’ve just been “stability” testing them with mining rigs.

It’s a lost opportunity if nvidia doesn’t have some rigs they throw cards on for a week to mine before they ship them. So many buttcoins!

latinotwink1997
Jan 2, 2008

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Dadbod Apocalypse posted:

This is why I went totally overboard with a platinum 1400 psu — I never ever wanted to worry that power was an issue.

Yea, but if you rate it too far above what you’re actually going to load it with, you can actually decrease efficiency. They tend to run most efficiently around 75-90% rated load.

latinotwink1997
Jan 2, 2008

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Zil posted:

So in other words be sure to build your mining center not in a flood plain, preferably in a high elevation.

But not too high, otherwise you compromise cooling and decrease efficiency.

latinotwink1997
Jan 2, 2008

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Zero VGS posted:

and it had 8GB of ram after a BIOS flash even though I paid for 4GB. By far the best value I've ever gotten for a new GPU.

Do they actually install 8GB and bios lock it to only use 4? That seems like a waste of money in hardware on their part.

latinotwink1997
Jan 2, 2008

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I’m looking to pick up a 1080Ti given all this 2080 nonsense with potential failure rates and excessive power draw and crazy prices. Is eBay basically the only way to get one now? What kind of price is reasonable on a used one?

latinotwink1997
Jan 2, 2008

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Cool, thanks for the info all. No rush for me, so I’ll keep checking things.

latinotwink1997
Jan 2, 2008

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SlayVus posted:

That kind of damage would not have rendered the card inoperable. There are no circuits in that part of the PCB. Definitely check the serial numbers when you get it back, also would suggest removing the heatsink and checking the actual GPU die. Both the MSI GTX 1070 and GTX 1080 use the same PCB design and have the same PCI-E connectors.

Anyone can remove a serial number sticker, you can't re-etch silicon. I know I'm being a little paranoid on this, but this is an entirely feasible thing to happen considering that they're both the same PCB in length, height, and layout. The die should be etched GP104-400-A1

The bashed corner could short power and ground layers together. I think I actually see copper in one of those pics.

latinotwink1997
Jan 2, 2008

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My ATI 9800 Pro cost about $250 back in the day. Those were the days.

latinotwink1997
Jan 2, 2008

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TheCoach posted:

Be sure to check if no pins on the TMU or vertex engine are bent or otherwise shorting as that will immediately nuke them or the RAM,
This card will easily sell for 100$ on ebay (and prices keep going up at frankly alarming rates) so if you don't want to keep it then I suggest you sell it.

But...why? Who buys these for the “nostalgia”? I don’t get any other reason to use such old technology.

I tossed my Radeon 9800 pro a few years back and it seems like it may or may not be worth $80-500.

latinotwink1997
Jan 2, 2008

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Risky Bisquick posted:

:prepop: Counterstrike 1.5 RTX :eyepop:

Just give me 1.5 again. I don’t care about the rtx aspect.

latinotwink1997
Jan 2, 2008

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Statutory Ape posted:

Thank you for this valuable insight in the gpu thread, gay retard

Taking full advantage of the only time you can say that without getting a prob

latinotwink1997
Jan 2, 2008

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DrDork posted:

Most also don't spend ~$30,000 to redo a bathroom into....that. I do have to give the guy props for having the balls to come back and actually show the end result, knowing he was just going to continue to get roasted about it.

I have like 20 pages left on that thread but I feel like I’m going to get to the end and find out OP killed himself out of shame.

latinotwink1997
Jan 2, 2008

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DrDork posted:

It's not hard to understand when the American education system conspicuously lacks any requirement whatsoever to teach even basic financial literacy in most states. Then if you're not making much money (and off the start, who is?) $60/mo might seem a lot more manageable than doing without a fridge for several months while you save up the $600. And then you get caught in the cycle of not being able to save up, because all your money is going to these rentals/loans, and you never get ahead. Then you have a kid and they grow up figuring that's just normal, and you certainly don't know wtf about money, either, and the school isn't telling anyone, and the cycle continues.

It's great for corporate profits, though!

I saw the following posted on Facebook recently. Seems pretty accurate and goes along with your point.

latinotwink1997
Jan 2, 2008

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They just can’t get away from the X in the name. Waiting for the generation of Xbox Triple X, Pornbox

latinotwink1997
Jan 2, 2008

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K8.0 posted:

It's objectively pretty huge. I really would love to see a study done on people who claim to not be able to see framerate differences. I can't imagine that their eyes fundamentally track motion different from the way everyone else does, but it'd be interesting to see.

I don’t think it’s related to how your eyes track anything but to how your brain deals with the shifts from frame to frame. Maybe some people just interpolate from frame to frame better than others on longer time scales (fewer FPS) or they process at a slower rate so the extra frames don’t really matter.

latinotwink1997
Jan 2, 2008

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My CPU is a neural net processor; a learning computer.

latinotwink1997
Jan 2, 2008

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axeil posted:

Thanks

I've made a wishlist on each site with all the 3080 SKUs and I'm hitting refresh on that. At this point I don't really care which one I get so long as it's not a ZOTAC.

I can never take Zotac seriously because every time I see the name I think Zoltan from Dude, Where’s My Car.


Also this thread moves way too fast.

latinotwink1997
Jan 2, 2008

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shrike82 posted:

lamo GamerNexus is saying that the waterblock manufacturers didn't get any data from Nvidia prior to the launch and are being forced to buy the cards to manually physically measure the layouts

Can’t tell if you’re actually using the word “lamo” or if in every one of your posts you’re loving up “lmao”...

latinotwink1997
Jan 2, 2008

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Hemish posted:

Anyone knows why Amazon Canada seems to have received 0 3080 card from EVGA since launch?

Also, everyone knows the real magic is NVIDIA HairWorks and not DLSS, everyone knows that.



Hmmm, doesn’t seem to be working. He’s still bald.

latinotwink1997
Jan 2, 2008

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strangehamster posted:

The most undesirable parts combos, throw in some server boards.

“We have to get rid of this pc parts stock of stuff people never buy”

“Bundle it with the new nvidia cards. Bim bam boom, ez pz”

latinotwink1997
Jan 2, 2008

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What are the chances Nvidia will put this LHR thing on future card releases? Or are we doomed to repeat this bullshit and I will never own a current gen, unused card at a decent price?

latinotwink1997
Jan 2, 2008

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K8.0 posted:

You're not going to be able to get cards at a "good" price for a long time if ever because :
Performance leaps as large as Ampere are less and less frequent these days.
Nvidia will probably never sell a GPU with as good value at time of launch as the RTX 3080 FE ever again. It was underpriced even without any of the factors driving up demand.
Money printer has gone brrr and the inflation cat is out of the bag, so prices are going to keep going up. This also has a knock-on effect of driving up costs via crypto demand because people want the gently caress out of the dollar and for people in the GPU market crypto is an easy target.
Governments love tariffs and protectionism so those aren't going away any time soon.
The semiconductor industry won't be able to keep up with demand for at least 5-7 years.
Gaming, especially PC gaming, continues to grow.

Crypto is a factor in this current crunch, but the days of decent $300 GPUs are probably gone forever. Say supply normalizes in 2 years, I still expect what used to be the $250-300 position in the market to be $500.

I guess I should have clarified. By “decent price” I meant more along the lines of “MSRP”. I was all ready to plop down $850 on a 3080. I’m running a 970 still that I was hoping to change to a 1080TI way back but that stopped selling before I had the chance. I’m not interested in buying used for multiple reasons. I didn’t trust the 2000 series stuff, what with being new tech for RT, so I decided to skip it. And now I can’t get the latest and greatest without paying some poo poo scalper for one at exorbitant markup.

The money isn’t the problem, it’s the enabling people to continue selling them like that that I hate. It was the same thing when quarantine happened. I wanted a webcam to chat with friends but they all got bought up by scalpers. Took months to get the one I wanted.

I just want to pay normal store price.

latinotwink1997
Jan 2, 2008

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Craptacular! posted:

That "normal" price was lower than it would have been because Nvidia assumed that AMD had something that could compete with them and priced themselves lower than they should have. And then the Radeon guys got on stage two weeks later and went "surprise, it's all bluster!" That's kind of the point. Nvidia thought their years of being way out ahead of AMD was at an end and that graphics cards were a two team race again, but actually no AMD is still selling cards that were groundbreaking two years ago and nobody wants them except for guys who want to post on message boards about how they're standing up to the monopolies of PC hardware by "joining Team Red".

K8.0 really oversells the government policy angles of this stuff and it's only because this isn't D&D that I don't throw down with him (I believe he's also repeated my favorite teeth-grinder, that you can't get a card because of stimulus checks) but he isn't wrong that Nvidia launched the 3080 at a price that misread the room.

Still doesn’t change the fact I’d rather pay the price the manufacturer sets, whether it be $850 or $1850 than have some scalper forcing me to pay more and profiting from it. It’s the principle of the matter.

latinotwink1997
Jan 2, 2008

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Gotta start by stealing catalytic converters for some starter money, then move into the high brow stuff like scalping videocards.

latinotwink1997
Jan 2, 2008

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Shear Modulus posted:

i'm imagining an out of date list of authorized retailers that includes like Circuit City and CompUSA and Radioshack

I miss Circuit City

latinotwink1997
Jan 2, 2008

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Final step: solder this 400 pin bga to the board and you’re done!

latinotwink1997
Jan 2, 2008

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Smythe posted:

Titanium iron?????

Gonna have to study up on my metallurgy to figure out which card is the best

latinotwink1997
Jan 2, 2008

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gradenko_2000 posted:

Where's our goddamn arr-tee-eks 3050, nvidia?!

No, it’s definitely pronounced as
because it makes you sad if you don’t have one.

latinotwink1997
Jan 2, 2008

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What would be the sweet spot for PC resolution? Given the typical PC user sits about 2 feet from the monitor and 27-32” becomes typical use, how much value is there from 4K? Is there even a reason to go to 8k beyond niche cases?

latinotwink1997
Jan 2, 2008

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latinotwink1997 posted:

What would be the sweet spot for PC resolution? Given the typical PC user sits about 2 feet from the monitor and 27-32” becomes typical use, how much value is there from 4K? Is there even a reason to go to 8k beyond niche cases?

Appreciate all the replies. Really what I’m getting at is, where do we go from here? We have reached what is basically the ideal resolution, and refresh rates that are peak human capability to detect. We nearly have gpus that can run them at max capability. It’s feeling like the space for innovation is getting so small there’s little practical left to aim for except niche ideas.

latinotwink1997
Jan 2, 2008

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v1ld posted:

E: So loving great to have more competition in the GPU wars, both hardware and software. Especially right now.

News: more videocard options!

Views: more opportunities for miners to scalp me :(

latinotwink1997
Jan 2, 2008

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NeverRelax posted:

(USER WAS PERMABANNED FOR THIS POST)

I always wonder about this. Is it based on their posts and recent reg date or is there some sort of network address matching confirmation? I would not have placed that being fauxtool by the posts alone.

latinotwink1997
Jan 2, 2008

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Screwing up NVDA wafers to get that market share, muahahaha

latinotwink1997
Jan 2, 2008

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Can current heatsink technology even handle 900W dissipation at that size that wouldn’t at least require water cooling or like 4-5 slots on air or something else absolutely ridiculous?

latinotwink1997
Jan 2, 2008

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Just some 0 awg wire, preformed of course, that only fits in specific case layouts.

latinotwink1997
Jan 2, 2008

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Holy poo poo, finally got a 3070 to replace my 970. This thing is huge!

latinotwink1997
Jan 2, 2008

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CaptainSarcastic posted:

I don't trust the market to remain rational or supply to be predictable, and the next generation looks kind of disturbingly power-hungry. I play at 1440p, so the 3080 should hold it's own easily for a couple more years.

This was my thinking as well. I nearly bought a used 1080 before deciding to wait on the 20 series. Wasn’t impressed so decided to wait for the 30 series. The supply was nonexistent and I couldn’t even get one until now and I still paid a little over msrp for it (prices dropped enough and I was tired of waiting). The 40 series being so power hungry turns me off more, and I’m playing on a 1440/144 monitor, so the 3070 covers me pretty solid for all the games I like without too much power/heat usage.


Hughmoris posted:

Our 970 army loses another. :smith:

I’ll miss you all. Someday you’ll join me!
I’ll continue to hold my 970 as a backup of course, so it’s not gone yet.

latinotwink1997
Jan 2, 2008

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MarcusSA posted:

This is why you don’t buy GPUs that were used for mining






You could just end up with some ash!

I want to believe the pc fans are pointed outward and they just have competing fans doing nothing for the gpus because I assume all miners are morons.

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latinotwink1997
Jan 2, 2008

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repiv posted:

also don't unplug the power connector too many times or it might catch fire

https://twitter.com/VideoCardz/status/1572941451289395202

I’ve usually found these kinds of specs to be irrelevant. I’ve used flex cables in test systems for hundreds of insertions when they are “rated” for 20.

The spec usually guarantees a maximum resistance with those number of insertions. So, it might be 0.030 ohms max for 30 insertions but even after that it might only go up 0.005 ohms for the next hundred, which is typically negligible. Higher currents are involved so slightly more important but I highly doubt it will matter as much as you may think.

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