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So I went to check on the upcoming GPUs to see what could go into my planned Haswell machine, and it seems that both Nvidia and AMD pushed back their Maxwell/Sea Islands architectures to 2014 Is there anything coming up at all, or would I not be able to pair the processor with anything new and shiny? In that case, how would the Haswell IGP compare to, say a 8800GT?
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# ¿ Mar 10, 2013 19:52 |
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# ¿ Apr 17, 2024 22:55 |
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How representative are the Fire Strike benchmarks of general gaming performance? I'm trying to use that to gauge whether a GTX 650 Ti Boost is a reasonable purchase for my aging Q6600 machine (the original card got fried): http://www.3dmark.com/compare/fs/899741/fs/1124099 It seems that the main difference is in the physics department, and otherwise I won't actually be sacrificing much by staying with this machine vs building a new Haswell PC. I'm planning to use this a bit into next year until Maxwell and perhaps Broadwell hit the streets, then moving this into a HTPC role. Playing at 1920x1080 at the moment. I also checked a few of the the typical alternatives that are suggested as cheaper options like the 7850 but they're actually a bit more expensive locally.
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# ¿ Nov 27, 2013 17:40 |
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Factory Factory posted:Roughly the level of "able to render Windows solitaire." Sadly, while a 6200LE can render Windows solitaire, it chokes badly on 1080p video, or pretty much any video in windows media player, for that matter. Speaking of which, are Nvidia's drivers incapable of dealing with two cards of different generations? When I put in the 650 Ti BOOST, I moved the old card to the second slot. It then looked that the latest drivers installed fine, but after restarting, the card appeared as "not working properly" and any attempts to reinstall the drivers failed completely. Only pulling the old card, booting into safe mode and running driver sweeper allowed the new drivers to be installed properly. Which tools are used nowadays for monitoring and overclockig Nvidia cars? I used to use Riva Tuner for this, but it seems like it hasn't been updated in years
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# ¿ Nov 28, 2013 21:39 |
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Gwaihir posted:Old post, but yea- If you installed the latest drivers for a 650ti, they don't support an ancient 6200LE (Jesus how old is that card now, 10, 11 years?) The most recent drivers that support that series of GPUs are the 300s, and I think we're on 331.something. Yeah it's pretty ancient - I got it while waiting for my 8800GT to arrive, and it was old and cheap already that point. What threw me off though was that it was the shiny new 650Ti Boost that wasn't working with newest drivers, while the 6200LE didn't even have any displays connected to it at the moment. In other news, my computer is celebrating its 6th birthday this month! Have to say that the bundle I got with the card was quite disappointing - literally just a driver cd and a Molex power adapter. The 8800GT had a mountain of all kinds poo poo in the box as well as a game or two. Well, looking at my order history, it did cost over twice as much as the (probably overkill) 650 so I can live with that . Oh, and I did get a couple of Free2Play coupons out of it but, sadly don't know anyone who would give me actual money for them.
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# ¿ Dec 3, 2013 11:34 |
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fletcher posted:Wait why are these cards so desirable for mining?? More specifically, what is it about their architecture that makes them so much better than Nvidia's? And why the gently caress did I just buy a GTX 650?
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# ¿ Dec 5, 2013 00:54 |
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So for anyone not only looking at GPUs every couple of years, is there generally any significant decline in prices after the launch, but before the next generation release? It seems like the 980Ti would be all but a must for decent VR experience, the only questions is when I'd be building a new PC - either as soon as the 980Ti and Skylake CPUs are widely available, or only once the headsets are available.
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# ¿ Jun 1, 2015 13:30 |
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Rastor posted:The rumor mill has the Fiji parts being sold under a new "Radeon Fury" branding. They should really just bring back "Rage" already
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# ¿ Jun 2, 2015 18:51 |
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The Deadly Hume posted:Why you keep your old cards around for that purpose. Go ahead, unearth that 5770 you boxed away four years ago, blow the dust off it and see how it goes! I did use a Geforce 730 LE for a bit between my 8800GT making GBS threads itself and me buying a 650 Ti. Not much use for gaming but way better than "no computer for a month"
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# ¿ Jun 4, 2015 16:25 |
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Came across this on Ars or something. Posting without further comment.
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# ¿ Jun 17, 2015 18:57 |
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I still don't really get the requirements for the Rift, as it's mostly an I/O device and the requirements will depend almost entirely on the application - I can run Quake 3 at 1920x1200 at over 90fps on Intel® HD Graphics 3000 from 2011, if that's what I wanted to do. That said, the news about Pascal and Polaris seriously piss me off, as I was planning to build a new machine just when the Rift ships, but it seems like none of the next-gen cards will be out yet
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# ¿ Jan 5, 2016 17:11 |
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The good news is, I don't have to buy a new computer now! My Q6600 box will live forever!
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# ¿ Jan 6, 2016 22:14 |
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Just Another Lurker posted:Think i will wait patiently for V3 on this one. The problem is that this is the V3
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# ¿ Jan 7, 2016 16:03 |
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Marinmo posted:I'm sorry for going OT, but: Wait what? Which part of Europe do you live in, because I get a vastly superiorly equipped Japanese car for less or equal to a entry level European car here in northern Europe And our currency (non-Euro) hasn't fared well (-25-40 % devaluation against like all other currencies in ~1 year) either. Generally though, yeah, buying just about anything from abroad has become much much less attractive the last year no matter where you are in Europe. I'm not sure retail prices has really changed a lot though (that I've noticed) because of it, so far, but it's probably in the pipeline should things not get better soon. Probably just about when Pascal hits, knowing the universe and its workings. I've been postponing my upgrade to a new Skylake machine as there wasn't an urgent need and I was hoping the prices would be going down. Instead, everything slowly got more expensive from fall (i5-6600K)
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# ¿ Jan 9, 2016 21:19 |
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THE DOG HOUSE posted:Oh hey april is close! xthetenth posted:Watch it be wrong. I don't see how it possibly could be: quote:Cooling: Very Red; Red
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# ¿ Feb 22, 2016 17:09 |
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Sundowner posted:I actually have a legit heat gun that I bought years ago. I didn't think that would be a viable option because the heat wouldn't disperse evenly enough which I figured was what made the oven method reliable. If the issue is actually with the soldering (IMO unlikely), then a heat gun would work just as well if not better than just throwing the card into a hot oven: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qyDRHI4YeMI&t=1166s I never looked into this before but the comments in the Linus video say that the issue is something else entirely and heating it only fixes the issue temporarily. So good luck, hopefully you'll manage to get at least a couple of months out of it until Pascal arrives.
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# ¿ Mar 13, 2016 11:58 |
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They're going to stick the Polaris VR benchmarks at the very end, aren't they.
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# ¿ Mar 15, 2016 00:27 |
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All that talk of multi-chip GPU reminds me of something... and that didn't end very well for them...
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# ¿ Mar 16, 2016 15:33 |
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Norm from Tested plugs a card into the Razer Core, and some other questions are answered as well: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vGFRoWj0YOw It's a pretty slick process and compared to a regular enterprise-level docks it's not that expensive when bought with their laptop, but still.
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# ¿ Mar 23, 2016 14:04 |
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Rigged Death Trap posted:Jen-Hsung with a kickass leather jacket and weird awkward cadence. It's a different jacket than he worse at CES 2016 and 2015 so he must own a stockpile of kickasss black leather jackets. Can't really blame him though for that. And yeah it's pretty awkward, kind of like Elon's presentations. Dunno why they don't just practice it, it's a skill that can be learned. Edit: Oh poo poo they brought in The Woz! mobby_6kl fucked around with this message at 17:41 on Apr 5, 2016 |
# ¿ Apr 5, 2016 17:38 |
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Lol Woz getting sick in VR
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# ¿ Apr 5, 2016 17:47 |
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So does the IRAY thing actually render the full 3d scene in real time? When he spun the HMD around it seemed to only rotate and not translate in the space.
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# ¿ Apr 5, 2016 17:58 |
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^^^ I guess it'd have to be though, right? Otherwise it'd be functionally identical to the lite version that just pre-renders a 360 scene. Hmm. Yeah that's pretty impressive how it can generate a coherent image. Aww look at that cute lil baby gpu
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# ¿ Apr 5, 2016 18:21 |
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We'll ship it... soon
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# ¿ Apr 5, 2016 18:32 |
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Theris posted:Keep it. There's not going to be a consumer big die Pascal until q1 next year, and Vega ("big polaris"/Fury 2/whatever) won't be much sooner. That 980ti will be at least as fast as anything that comes out before then. Barry posted:He looks like he's wearing a bike helmet And kind of too
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# ¿ Apr 5, 2016 18:45 |
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I used to have an 8800GT until the fan died and it burned itself to a crisp. Great performance for like what, two hundred bucks? Intel really needs to get into the DGPU game. Larrabee went nowhere but their HD stuff is pretty impressive so maybe they'd be able to scale that somehow.
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# ¿ Apr 7, 2016 10:07 |
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980Ti levels of performance for under $300 would be amazing 2and pretty much the best I could've hoped to get from the Polaris/Pascal updates. Hopefully NV will have something to show off at Computex, because their Tesla stuff looked quite promising.
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# ¿ Apr 15, 2016 07:23 |
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SwissArmyDruid posted:Wrong, if they earn your money, they earn your money. Brand loyalty, it is the stupid. Nobody said anything about earning your money. But they sure as hell need it
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# ¿ Apr 15, 2016 13:04 |
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The 970 was released around end of Q3/14 so yeah that kinds of matches. Even though I haven't bought a GPU since 650Ti-B, I've mostly looked at Nvidia as AMD's stuff just comes across as not being the best all-around performers, deliver lower minimum FPS and use more power. This is probably not entirely accurate but that's the impression from just casually following the market.
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# ¿ Apr 17, 2016 12:56 |
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Would a 650Ti Boost work when powered from only one Molex connector? The PSU only has one (the rest are SATA; no 6-pin) and I cut off one of the Molex connectors from my adapter for a different project anyway. I'd rather make this work than swap a PSU out from another PC that works fine now.
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# ¿ Apr 21, 2016 20:20 |
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I was just about to say the same - check and clean/replace your cooler, the symptoms sound like an overheating card. I had this happen with my 8800GT - the fan would sometimes jut not spin up, causing glitches and crashes. When spinning it was fine but eventually it stopped and I fried the card dead.
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# ¿ Jun 8, 2016 17:34 |
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Lead-free solder sucks and can gently caress right off. Regarding the 1070, is it also going to launch as an overpriced founder's edition first? What are the normal ones supposed to cost?
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# ¿ Jun 9, 2016 00:32 |
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Ars review: http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2016/06/nvidia-gtx-1070-review/ Weird that more traditional sites like Anandtech and Techreport don't have anything yet. The card looks pretty drat good (though I'll need to see it on the same chart with a 650 Ti) but four hundred bucks is still quite a bit of money. I'm in no rush so maybe AMD will deliver something in the ballpark performance-wise soon, worst case it might get nvidia to discount these a bit.
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# ¿ Jun 10, 2016 17:09 |
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repiv posted:Again, why are they running a media blackout if the card is capable of that Wouldn't want to piss on nVidia's launch, now would they? Haquer posted:poo poo like this is why I'm glad I won't be building a new PC for several more months, holy poo poo Yeah me too. Originally wanted to get something in Q1 already to go with the Rift/Vive, but I bailed on those due to high prices and the shipping clusterfuck so I'm now perfectly fine with waiting until the GPU stuff stabilizes and Kaby Lake CPUs are out.
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# ¿ Jun 13, 2016 16:27 |
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Anime Schoolgirl posted:http://videocardz.com/61005/new-amd-radeon-rx-480-3dmark-benchmarks Not bad at all, but the 1080 just makes everything look like poo poo, it's amazing. If it can get within striking distance of the 1070 with some overclocking as per the previous chart (a bit doubtful) it'd be a definite buy for me.
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# ¿ Jun 14, 2016 17:13 |
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Techreport review of the 1080 is up, finally. Were they buying the card off newegg or something? Anyway, I like how perfectly it's priced: http://techreport.com/review/30281/nvidia-geforce-gtx-1080-graphics-card-reviewed/7 But overall I thought this review made it look a bit less impressive than it seemed to me before. It's definitely a noticeable improvement over the 980Ti but hardly looks like a game changer. Definitely looking forward to some solid 480 overclocking results.
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# ¿ Jun 25, 2016 20:28 |
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Beautiful Ninja posted:http://www.techspot.com/review/1198-amd-radeon-rx-480/page8.html - Price/performance chart for the cards. If you can get a GTX 1070 for 399.99, you're pretty much in the ballpark of the RX 480 and that's comparing an aftermarket cooled Gigabyte to a reference cooler card. If you have to spend an extra 20 on a RX 480 to get an aftermarket cooler, it ends up being the exact same price/performance as the 399.99 GTX 1070. Mileage will vary here as most have paid more than 399.99 for a GTX 1070. also http://techreport.com/review/30328/amd-radeon-rx-480-graphics-card-reviewed/1 So to be fair to AMD, this is exactly what they claimed - VR-ready performance (ie. 970 level) for $200. At the same time the lack of headroom is quite disappointing so I might end up shelling out for a 1070 after all, as I'll want to have smooth VR and usable 4k eventually.
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# ¿ Jun 29, 2016 15:09 |
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Gwaihir posted:"Even" a GTX970 is twice as fast in games as a 660ti. And then a 970 is only 60%~ the power of a 1070. So you're looking at "Do you want to double your FPS, or almost quadruple your FPS?" for 1920*1080 gameplay. I'm running a 650 Ti Boost now and am leaning towards the 1070 as well as I want to go 4k soon. I'm in no rush though so I want to see how the 1060 turns out. The 480 would've been a great solution if I wanted to stick to 1080p though (power issues excluded). But then it'd also be quite lame to only get as much performance as I could've had two years ago for only $100 more.
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# ¿ Jul 1, 2016 23:09 |
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Gwaihir posted:For primarily gaming use, I'd highly highly suggest the 2560 * 1440 144hz monitors over anything 4k. Screens are more expensive, but they take less GPU power to have a fantastic experience with. I've got one of each, and playing with high refresh rates (Even if your card doesn't crank out 120 fps all the time) is just a far better experience than 4k gaming. Phlegmish posted:The 1070 is not enough to max out 4K. In fact, nothing available on the market right now is. Maybe the 1080 Ti when it comes out. I realize that the 1070/80 wouldn't max out 4k in most games but in those cases 1080p could be scaled up with crazy fps, so it's not all bad. And if things continue the way they had, there won't be any other option (except Titan or whatever but I mean at a reasonable price point) that would do 4k at 60+ fps in any game for years, probably xthetenth posted:It is 50% more, but that makes some sense.
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# ¿ Jul 2, 2016 01:31 |
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Palladium posted:The real card you are waiting for is the supposedly $150 RX 470 4GB. Nvidia never tries to match or undercut AMD prices if they have the upper hand, so forget about the 1060. The RX480 is already basically a two year old 970, I doubt the 470 would last another another five years at anything approaching reasonable in-game settings. Anyway, it's probably worth waiting for it and the 1060 to see what's what and if it causes any discounts on these or older models.
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# ¿ Jul 3, 2016 10:02 |
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# ¿ Apr 17, 2024 22:55 |
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Coredump posted:Any news of a 1080ti coming out? No and probably won't be any for a while, the 980 Ti came out like 9 months after the regular one.
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# ¿ Jul 3, 2016 15:32 |