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Phlegmish
Jul 2, 2011



bull3964 posted:

The GTX 1080 is sold out and backordered everywhere so it's not going to be more expedient to get one of those.

I figured a lot of people would wait for the GTX 1070 instead, seems to have really good price/quality.

I'm having hard drive problems right now, and am looking at building an entirely new rig fairly soon. So I hope the 1070 doesn't have the same availability problems (it will).

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Phlegmish
Jul 2, 2011



Does anyone know when we're going to start seeing aftermarket editions of the 1070 and 1080? How much of a difference will it make? This is the first time I've been looking to buy a graphics card so close to its release.

Phlegmish
Jul 2, 2011



AVeryLargeRadish posted:

We will be seeing some of them on release day on June 10th. I'm expecting some of them with reference boards but custom coolers right away, there might be a few with custom boards on release in small quantities too but I expect most of the custom board designs to be out within a month or two. Pascal apparently has some yield issues so supply is quite limited, how that will effect the 1070 is anyones guess, if most of the yield issues are leading to chips being cut down to the point where they can still be used as 1070 chips the supply of 1070s should be pretty good, if the yield issues are more severe then both the 1080 and 1070 will be very constrained and you might have to wait weeks after ordering one for it to ship out to you.

For the 1070, would you recommend I wait the extra time for the custom board + custom cooler instead of reference board + custom cooler? I gather that the main difference is that some of the custom boards come overclocked out of the box. I'm definitely not inclined to buy Founders Edition because of the extra cost and some bad things I've read about the cooler of the 1080.

Phlegmish
Jul 2, 2011



Ah. If I'm not interested in overclocking my graphics card myself, but I wouldn't mind slightly better performance out of the box, I might as well go reference board + custom cooler? Or are there other differences in quality?

I'm assuming no one here has a custom 1080 yet considering the supply problems, but if you do I'm curious to see which one you went for.

Phlegmish
Jul 2, 2011



Watermelon Daiquiri posted:

Yes, but custom boards take time to design, as does modifying whatever needs to be modified to fit their custom coolers to the reference board.

True, but they've had their hands on the 1070 for a while now, I think some customs have even been announced already (Inno3D for example).

Phlegmish
Jul 2, 2011



People have 4k monitors now. The future is now

Phlegmish
Jul 2, 2011



I can't believe how far we've come as a species

Phlegmish
Jul 2, 2011



EdEddnEddy posted:

Waiting on the 1080Ti Strix for sure.

:pusheen:

Has the 1080Ti been announced yet? It seems like ridiculously overkill right now but could help 4K gaming take off.

Phlegmish
Jul 2, 2011



K8.0 posted:

Far from overkill, the 1080 can't even do 1440/144 for the most part, and even the Titan won't. That is where you really want to go. IMO it's insane to keep pushing resolutions higher and push the boundaries of being able to discern individual pixels without pushing framerates first. There isn't really a benefit to pushing the limits of individually perceptible pixels in motion when objects are jumping dozens of pixels per frame anyway.

Wait, I thought the 1080 and even the 1070 killed it on 1440p, and it's only 4K where the 1080 starts running into trouble on the highest settings? Did I misinterpret the benchmarks?

Phlegmish
Jul 2, 2011



So don't use a frying pan?

Phlegmish
Jul 2, 2011



GoGoGadgetChris posted:

Awesome. I got caught up in a "WAIT - the next gen of ___ is coming out like NEXT week" cycle about 5 months ago, and I'm really anxious to finally order my $1,000 $1,500 $2,000 build.

(New stuff is expensive...)

Same, I want to join the hallowed ranks of nerds who spend entirely too much on their PCs to end up playing three high-end games a year.

We're the casuals driving demand through the roof.

Phlegmish
Jul 2, 2011



Nemesis Of Moles posted:

No one knows, and $380~. Expect around $400 for basic stuff based on the 1080 launch though.

Does Nvidia give reference prices only in dollars or do they also have them in €? I'd like to know how much we're being gouged this time.

Phlegmish
Jul 2, 2011



My question would be how to tell if a card is FE or not (unless they mention it or you know the specs).

Phlegmish
Jul 2, 2011



I'm in the same boat but from what I understand it's too early to give a conclusive recommendation for any specific situation, a lot of custom cards aren't even out yet. Wait a few weeks for the smoke to clear.

Phlegmish
Jul 2, 2011



If it makes you feel any better, I'm pretty sure a lot of the acronyms are meaningless.

Phlegmish
Jul 2, 2011



I don't understand how baking your graphics card helps, I thought overheating your hardware was bad.

Phlegmish
Jul 2, 2011



Chuu posted:

While we're talking about stock, 1070 FE cards have been widely avaliable all day at MSRP ($450). This is probably more evidence that the supply constraint on 1080s right now is the memory, not the chips.

I hope this is true so I can build my new computer this month

Phlegmish
Jul 2, 2011



Spiritus Nox posted:

So is there nowhere to buy 1070s other than price-gougers offering to get them to me in a month?

There's a lot of nerds F5'ing right now, I'm going to wait for the dust to settle. See what the situation is in a few weeks.

Phlegmish
Jul 2, 2011



Because they want it now and chances are it will be more than enough for whatever they want to do, anyway.

Phlegmish
Jul 2, 2011



What do you consider to be a gigantic screen?

Phlegmish
Jul 2, 2011



The GTX 970 is not enough to get 60+ FPS on the highest settings in many new games, so it all depends on how important that is to you.

Phlegmish
Jul 2, 2011



MAKE WAY NEW STARS posted:

1070 prices in the EU are so loving lol that I just pulled the trigger on a step-up to the 1080 ACX 3.0 instead.

Where are you checking prices?

Phlegmish
Jul 2, 2011




Wow, they all had designs like this.



I don't remember this at all.

Phlegmish
Jul 2, 2011



Ihmemies posted:

Welp, Asus strix 1070 is a solid 200€ more expensive than a 970 was. I miss the days when prices between generations stayed the same. I especially miss the sweet HD6950 (which could be flashed to 6970) deals...

Where are you seeing an Asus Strix 1070 on sale?

e: unfortunately the MSRP for the 1070 FE is €513. I'm going to wait a while and then try for a custom at around €450.

Phlegmish fucked around with this message at 11:12 on Jun 11, 2016

Phlegmish
Jul 2, 2011



Ak Gara posted:

Pretty much 3rd fastest single GPU in the world...so, high end.

70 is higher than 60 but lower than 80, so clearly midrange.

Phlegmish
Jul 2, 2011



I'm joking, I'm buying one myself, it's obviously high-end as far as currently available cards go.

One day, inshallah, it will be considered a card for grandmothers as the rest of us are watching porn in 8K with our virtual reality headsets or whatever.

Phlegmish
Jul 2, 2011



That drop's going to get filled within a day.

Phlegmish
Jul 2, 2011



Josh Lyman posted:

I wonder how many internet nerds will complain when 1080Ti is released with GDDR5X.

Why would they complain about that?

Phlegmish
Jul 2, 2011



Huh. I didn't even know what HBM was.

Actually, is there a reason they're not putting it in their consumer graphics cards?

Phlegmish
Jul 2, 2011



BIG HEADLINE posted:

Because they'd cost as much as a new car.

Isn't AMD already doing it, though?

Phlegmish
Jul 2, 2011



Don Lapre posted:

Wow, feel bad for all the 1070 owners

But it's the second-best card on there.

I don't understand graphics cards

Phlegmish
Jul 2, 2011



xthetenth posted:

If that's true they paid a lot more for not much more.

A graphics card is just a way to turn money into fps, so if it's a lot less efficient and close enough that you can't just say you wanted more performance even if it cost more to get that extra, then it's a pretty mediocre buy.

I still want one.

But it's good to see some competition, it would be terrible if the industry turned into a monopoly.

Phlegmish
Jul 2, 2011



Linx posted:

Got my 1070FE today, it's a really solid card. Apart from a few quirks where certain games didn't know what the gently caress it was (looking at you Fallout 4) and also the most up to date version of GeForce experience claiming to not meet the minimum requirement for optimising games. Speccy also seems to think that it only has 4096 VRAM for some reason. I assume because the card is new out or something?



No trouble on the gaming front?

Phlegmish
Jul 2, 2011



Hieronymous Alloy posted:

If I'm buying a new monitor and a new GPU at the same time in the next few months, what would y'all recommend?

I've been using a 24" 1920*1200 display for a decade but it seems like all the new cards are overkill for that. Purpose is just general home use / gaming.

They're overkill right now, but who knows what'll be coming out a few years from now.

I don't know, I have a 24" 1920*1080 and it seems enough for me.

Phlegmish
Jul 2, 2011



AVeryLargeRadish posted:

Also everyone remembers what happened with AMD and Intel, it feels like we are repeating history here or something, it's worrying.

What happened, exactly? I know AMD got left behind, not sure why though.

Phlegmish
Jul 2, 2011



I don't recall ever having driver issues, though it's true that I barely knew what a driver was until a few years ago. You guys are scaring me with these stories. I'm afraid to get a new system now.

Phlegmish
Jul 2, 2011



You are blessed if that is the worst thing that's ever happened to you.

Phlegmish
Jul 2, 2011



Congratulations to everyone who managed to get a card, hope this means supply is easing up.

Phlegmish
Jul 2, 2011



VulgarandStupid posted:

It's DDR3. You can probably get a pretty good overclock out of that processor as long as you have a decent cooler. Most games won't bottleneck on that CPU so it's probably worth hanging on to, at least until the next wave. That is, of course, unless you happen to play or want to play the games that are more CPU intensive.

Anyone have any experience with Paradox games after upgrading? They seem like the kind of game to be CPU-intensive. Will it reduce sluggishness to upgrade from an i7-3820 to an i7-6700k? I know the processor tends to be much less of a bottleneck these days, but I'm assuming it depends on the game.

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Phlegmish
Jul 2, 2011



Maphis posted:

I just pulled the trigger on the MSI Geforce 1070 Armour X... please don't say I'm going to regret this purchase. Upgrading from a 760. Looking forward to finally playing Arkham Knight, and GTA V, and a bunch of other games I've passed over due to them not quite running well enough.

I'm also upgrading from a 760, should be a pretty big difference once I can finally get my new system together.

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