Fauxtool posted:

full tempered glass case and every component has rgb on full time gay pride mode. I cant not look at everything all the time

Craptacular! posted:

I like LED lighting in PCs, but set it to a solid color and keep it there. Do not let it animate like a Vegas marquee.

The only exception I can think of would be if I could get lightpaths along the circuitry of a PCB. I'd totally dig seeing that.

EdEddnEddy posted:

What I don't get is why Nvidia/AMD can't figure out a simple way to just split the load without the software knowing there is a difference. Isn't that what DX12/Vulkan was supposed to do at the Driver level and yet still has to be programmed for directly and only like 3 games have done it yet it seems?

Really how hard is it to do SLI via the links we have to connect GPU's now, and heck, instead of SFR/AFR wasn't there an IFR where every other line of pixels could be split between the two to make for a more even SFR load?

Would it save bandwidth too to make it where the monitor plugs into both GPU's so it doesn't have to send data from one card to the other with the monitor attached?


It just seems like something that worked well when it was needed, and is going to be needed again soon if the Ray Tracing stuff actually becomes a thing games use in the next 5 years or so.

Rastor posted:

As Truga said, the problem is that games these days use shaders to achieve the desired graphics result. These shaders rely on knowing what pixels are nearby and also what pixels were in the previous frames, and thus they are fundamentally incompatible with breaking up the work among multiple GPUs.

The only exception to this is if you wanted two complete separate rendered images, i.e., for a VR headset. So for VR owners it's annoying that multi-GPU isn't supported for that use case.

repiv posted:

With effects like screenspace reflections, any pixel can potentially sample any other pixel. Here's a random example where almost the entire bottom of the frame depends on almost the entire top half during the SSR pass:

Paul MaudDib posted:

no, I actually mean that WCCF tried to make the same joke twice today, once with AMD instead. I mean, how lazy can you get?

Not that "GPU company releases super-fast GPU that you can't afford" is remotely original or funny in the first place, even if it's GN making it. I actually thought the "GeForce Assist" aimbot from last year was funny, I guess the "GeForce Academy of Gamers" was OK this year, not super funny but at least they put a little more effort into it than GN and WCCF.

Hungry Computer posted:

Ran Heaven Benchmark for an hour and the temp hovered around 73c. Haven't tried overclocking yet. The fans are connected to the mobo while I'm waiting for the adaptor to come in the mail. Even at 100% these things hardly make any noise, so I might not even bother trying to control them with the 1070.

Honestly I'm just happy I was able to fix it without spending hundreds of $.

PerrineClostermann posted:

quote:

"The rumors, conjecture and mistruths" would probably not have made you change your mind. This program was illegal in many ways under EU law and probably other national laws too. Millions of dollars in fine[s] is what made you change your mind...

Craptacular! posted:

The problem is GPU boxes are 80% GIGABYTE GAMING POWER FORCE COOL OC and 20% AMD/Nvidia logos. It essentially forces your average Micro Center customer or whatever to be educated.

There’s nothing wrong with demanding unique marketing and packaging. What’s wrong is carving out the established packaging for yourself, though Nvidia is probably doing that more to raise a hurdle to Intel.

Rastor posted:

I would be OK with requiring Red / Green / Blue boxes for AMD / nVidia / Intel GPUs

ConanTheLibrarian posted:

Soooooo the exact thing they do with HBM? Also, stacking high power elements like GPUs sounds like a great way to gently caress up your thermals. I'm guessing this will be more relevant for the mobile market.

Chimp_On_Stilts posted:

Is there a feasible way to check an older GPU for physical damage or defects (not obvious damage -- this thing isn't a smoldering wreck)?

My current system frequently crashes when loading a 3D application or when already in a 3D application and loading new content (e.g, a new level).

It's a classic graphics crash -- colorful artifacts all over the screen, freeze, system needs a hard reset.

Checking Windows' error logs has been ambiguous. Example:

"""
Source
Windows

Summary
Hardware error

Date
‎5/‎5/‎2018 11:39 PM

Status
Not reported

Description
A problem with your hardware caused Windows to stop working correctly.

Problem signature
Problem Event Name: LiveKernelEvent
Code: 141
Parameter 1: ffffbf0f665d14a0
Parameter 2: fffff80a0d4ab8e4
Parameter 3: 0
Parameter 4: 2918
OS version: 10_0_16299
Service Pack: 0_0
Product: 256_1
OS Version: 10.0.16299.2.0.0.256.48
Locale ID: 1033
"""

I also see "Display driver nvlddmkm stopped responding and has successfully recovered." in the logs from during the crashes.

I reinstalled the drivers and it still happens, so I am leaning toward concluding that the hardware is going bad. This video card has served for 5 years, so that's not shocking.

Still, if I am wrong and the card is still good I'd like to use it as a hand-me-down for a project. Is there any feasible way to conclusively determine whether the hardware is failing or should I recycle this thing and move on?

Lockback posted:

The scam is there will be delays and shipping problems until he vanishes or your refund window closes. Get your money back.

eggyolk posted:

Got a partial refund.


So uh, thanks Ebay for the $150 1060?

Subjunctive posted:

Who makes good ITX-friendly high end cards? Is it just Zotac?

How long do they usually take to turn up after a new generation starts shipping?

Subjunctive posted:

Oh good, I was worried about the thermals in an ITX factor. There’s always liquid cooling I guess if things get bad.

Subjunctive posted:

I care a bit about fan noise, yeah, but as long as it’s silent at idle and not ridiculous under gaming load I’m generally OK. Doing a custom loop sounds like fun, but also like the kind of thing I would gently caress up half way through.

Subjunctive posted:

I’ve done custom curves for my CPU before, so if they work well for this case I should be fine. Thank you!

GRINDCORE MEGGIDO posted:

Playing Doom on a 750ti. At 720p.

THE BEATWEAVER posted:

Used market prices in Vancouver BC:

780Ti: $275

GTX 970: $300

GTX 980: $400

980Ti: $600

Keep in mind these are all nearly / over half a decade old now.

B-Mac posted:

Used 970 or an AMD 470/570. Might be able to find a new 1060 3gb for sub $200 but will need to turn textures down at some point to stay below its 3gb.

tehinternet posted:

The right move is whatever is right for you. If you can wait, wait. If you can’t, get a used card from a good manufacturer that has a transferrable warranty (MSI/EVGA).

Zero VGS posted:

That's pretty ballsy to short NVDA. I could see shorting Blockbuster or Radio Shack when the writing is on the wall, but what makes anyone so sure that NVidia can't whip out their dick with a halo product at literally any moment in time?

1gnoirents posted:

Lol, imagine the opposite scenario you're implying. It is about fairness and equal time... which is self serving but true. I would have never imagined so many people so butthurt about NDAs which are logically impossible not to have. You, or any company, reviewer, youtube tryhard, is perfectly capable of not signing it and simply getting one like the rest of us. Which if you actually looked is what happens, people who aren't important enough to get a NDA produce the worst "reviews" possible in the first minute they own a product. What exactly is the problem here? If a company overtly restricts review samples because they dont like the likelihood of your tone then they get burned big time. See: AMD. If a company doesn't provide review samples, and the subsequent NDA you must have with them, then there is no 3rd party day 1 information. I'm not sure why anybody would want that or what benefit that would provide to the consumer or how that would prevent fallible reviewers from propping up a product. They still will, just much, much worse and as soon as they possibly can to get their clicks before anybody else. The only possible proposed alternative is providing review samples without an NDA (?????), I'm not sure anybody needs to explain that one.

EVGA_lee posted:

It's true that we removed the Guest RMA page on our website, but this actually had more to do with a more complicated situation than allowing secondhand users to submit an RMA. I realize this makes it more complicated for secondhand users to submit an RMA, but they can still do so by contacting our Customer Service through our normal channels. Only the procedure for requesting the RMA has changed for that.

Secondhand owners under our newer warranty policy (products shipped from EVGA on or after May 25th, 2018) simply require a proof of purchase; they do not need, nor should they provide the original invoice (unless they're the original owner, but this would mean they aren't a secondhand purchaser...). Instead, we are asking for proof of purchase from where the secondhand owner purchased the product. This could be a PayPal invoice, Venmo invoice, Amazon Payments, etc. If there's no electronic proof of purchase, contact us anyway and we can figure out another way to satisfy this requirement.

AVeryLargeRadish posted:

Actually the race for day one reviews is a huge problem, Steve from GN has talked about this before, if they get a review out even a day late they lose like 80% of their views, if you put out a late review effectively no one will look at it and your review was a waste of time.

AVeryLargeRadish posted:

I think that, especially because of YT algorithms, the first review out would have a massive advantage in view count and it would push reviewers to lower their standards to get out a review ASAP, it would also favor bigger channels like LTT and hurt smaller ones like GN. Reviewers(at least the good ones) already have a very hard time getting all the testing they need done in time for release day, the embargo just makes the race have an actual finish line and helps even the field between good reviewers that do large amounts of actual testing and idiots that poo poo out whatever they can for quick ad revenue.

BIG HEADLINE posted:

"NVDA IS DOOMED, SELL SELL SELL! Preferably until it gets to 150 where I can pick up a ton of it!"

Seriously - it's not a good thing that nVidia got such a large return from [an unnamed OEM that rhymes with 'Rigalite'], but they'll likely liquidate the stock by offering cheap product to OEMs like Dell and HP, who are more than happy to sell three year old technology to rubes at Best Buy who don't know any better.

quote:

What about investors who talk their book to move the price of a stock which they honestly believe is mispriced? Some people think that's sleazy. I don't, with one caveat: that their subsequent trading in the immediate aftermath of the article's publication is consistent with what they wrote in the article. (Which perhaps is the same as saying that their article was honest.)

Sormus posted:

Which is what made Mindfactory decide that spending money to make sure they always pay the different vat to different country after different limit will cost more than its worth. Its not that they refuse to sell to other euros, its because it doesnt make financial sense.

Paul MaudDib posted:

Reality check on the GPU market: TUL Corp is an AIB partner that only sells GPUs (PowerColor brand), no other products, and is exclusively AMD. Their revenue is down 28% y/y and 59% q/q. They sold more GPUs in March than all of Q2 combined.

Gigabyte is a much more diversified company, and their revenue is down 31% y/y, 30% m/m, and 33% q/q.

(from that SeekingAlpha guy a week or so ago)

Looks to me like the ballparks about "30% of GPU sales being crypto-related" were insanely low. I'd say they were sucking up at least half, possibly more like 2/3 or 3/4 (with gamers taking some demand back up as prices have come back to sanity).

Albinator posted:

Thread, tell me what I should do. I want to play some modernish games - Assassin's Creed Origins, or Witcher 3, say - and have them look good. My monitor is crappy, but it's just a few feet away from a 55" 4k TV, so I reckon an HDMI cable can help me there. Should I buy a 1080 now (which I can afford) or wait a bit, save some more and get a 1080Ti (or the equivalent 11xx card if they're out)? I'm more indecisive than usual on this.

FaustianQ posted:

Microsoft reported that nearly 30% of all Vista crashes were related to Nvidia drivers. https://www.engadget.com/2008/03/27/nvidia-drivers-responsible-for-nearly-30-of-vista-crashes-in-20/. ATI accounted for less than 10% in comparison.

Paul MaudDib posted:

That's only for the 4K144 panels. The 4K60 panels use the same module as the 1440p panels. You can pick up a whole monitor for like $600.

The reason 4K GSync hasn't taken off is because it's a bad set of tradeoffs vs high-refresh, not because of price or because NVIDIA is somehow "cheerleading" for high-refresh. 60 Hz sucks for gaming, and the high-refresh 4K panels were vaporware for years, cost 4-5x as much as a good 1440p panel, and still have major shortcomings.

tehinternet posted:

Get a brand with a transferrable warranty and you’ll be fine, EVGA, MSI and... was it Gigabyte? Can’t remember the third manufacturer with a non-poo poo warranty.

Craptacular! posted:

I did for about five years. I care about resale value and OCing seems to add a lot of actual heat to the room the computer is in, so I’d rather wait until stock speeds aren’t enough to do what I want, which turned out to be this year for a 3770K.

future ghost posted:

ASUS warranties transfer based on serial though so it should carry over. Assume it's been used for mining.

ASUS TOS posted:

ALL ASUS WARRANTY TERMS AND AGREEMENTS ARE NON-TRANSFERABLE AND ONLY APPLY TO THE ORIGINAL UNIT AND ORIGINAL PURCHASER. ASUS IS NOT LIABLE FOR A CLAIM MADE BY A THIRD PARTY OR MADE BY YOU FOR A THIRD PARTY.

DrDork posted:

Yeah, this is more or less how it works with most of the other companies, too. Officially the warranties are non-transferable. EVGA is, I think, the only one that explicitly allows transfers, and even then they note that it's only with a valid proof of purchase from a retailer (so not your eBay invoice). In reality they don't much care, as long as you're not being abusive about it, and will go off the S/Ns. I think they have that language in there just to give themselves the option, should they decide that someone is being an rear end in a top hat.

That said, I'd always ask for a copy of the original receipt, just to cover that possibility.

BIG HEADLINE posted:

One could argue that the 970 was so well-priced because they knew the 3.5/0.5 thing was going to out sooner or later.

celewign posted:

Well, I've installed my craigslist 1070. It was 300$. I fired up a couple games and saw decent improvements from my radeon 7950. Stuff that was at low is now at high etc. Card seems pretty good. my idle temps are 48deg C which seems high for this card, so I think i need to blow it out.

All in all, not a bad craigslist transaction. Kinda bittersweet to buy a 2 year old card for 300$ but its working and its better than ol' faithful radeon.

I kinda miss my radeon though... that was a good card.