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GRINDCORE MEGGIDO
Feb 28, 1985


ijyt posted:

Overclockers UK on the other hand, are a steaming pile of poo poo.

I had real problems with them.

Whats the current state of switchable graphics on a desktop?

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GRINDCORE MEGGIDO
Feb 28, 1985


Wondering if the 690 has been out long enough to prove its a good card (I know a few guys that had 590's for months, and they all ended up dead a year later).

I'd prolly go for another 680.. or two 670's if I'd not bought the first yet.

GRINDCORE MEGGIDO
Feb 28, 1985


Xtremesystems collected a list of 660Ti reviews:

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http://www.anandtech.com/show/6159/the-geforce-gtx-670-review (EVGA GTX 660 Ti Superclocked, Zotac GTX 660 Ti AMP! Edition, Gigabyte GTX 660 Ti OC)
http://www.hardwarecanucks.com/forum/hardware-canucks-reviews/56090-nvidia-geforce-gtx-660-ti-review.html (EVGA GTX 660 Ti)
http://techreport.com/articles.x/23419 (MSI GTX 660 Ti OC, Zotac GTX 660 Ti AMP! Edition, PNY GTX 660 Ti)
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/geforce-gtx-660-ti-benchmark-review,3279.html (MSI GTX 660 Ti Power Edition)
http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/2012/08/16/nvidia-geforce-gtx-660-ti-2gb-review/1 (MSI GTX 660 Ti Power Edition, Zotac GTX 660 Ti AMP! Edition, PNY GTX 660 Ti)
http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/graphics/display/geforce-gtx-660-ti.html (Zotac GTX 660 Ti AMP! Edition)
http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/ASUS/GeForce_GTX_660_Ti_Direct_Cu_II/ (ASUS GTX 660 Ti Direct CU II)
http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/Palit/GeForce_GTX_660_Ti_Jet_Stream/ (Palit GTX 660 Ti JetStream)
http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/MSI/GTX_660_Ti_Power_Edition/ (MSI GTX 660 Ti Power Edition)
http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/Zotac/GeForce_GTX_660_Ti_Amp_Edition/ (Zotac GTX 660 Ti AMP! Edition)
http://vr-zone.com/articles/nvidia-geforce-gtx-660-ti-review-part-1-3--gigabyte-s-windforce-oc-edition/16909.html (Gigabyte GTX 660 Ti OC)
http://vr-zone.com/articles/nvidia-geforce-gtx-660-ti-review-part-2-3--3d-gaming-performance/16964.html (Gigabyte GTX 660 Ti OC)
http://vr-zone.com/articles/nvidia-geforce-gtx-660-ti-review-part-3-3--synthetic-benchmarks-gpgpu-and-power-consumption/16963.html (Gigabyte GTX 660 Ti OC)
http://www.guru3d.com/article/gigabyte-geforce-gtx-660-ti-windforce-oc-review/ (Gigabyte GTX 660 Ti OC)
http://www.guru3d.com/article/palit-geforce-gtx-660-ti-jetstream-review/ (Palit GTX 660 Ti JetStream)
http://www.guru3d.com/article/msi-geforce-gtx-660-ti-power-editon-oc-review/ (MSI GTX 660 Ti Power Edition)
http://www.overclockersclub.com/reviews/nvidia_gtx_660ti_roundup_asus_msi_galaxy/ (MSI GTX 660 Ti Power Edition, ASUS GTX 660 Ti Direct CU II TOP, Galaxy GTX 660 Ti GC)
http://www.legionhardware.com/articles_pages/gigabyte_geforce_gtx_660_ti,1.html (Gigabyte GTX 660 Ti OC)
http://www.legitreviews.com/article/2006/1/ (ASUS GTX 660 Ti Direct CU II TOP, EVGA GTX 660 Ti SuperClocked, MSI GTX 660 Ti Twin Frozr)
http://www.pcper.com/reviews/Graphics-Cards/NVIDIA-GeForce-GTX-660-Ti-2GB-Kepler-Graphics-Card-Review (MSI GTX 660 Ti Power Edition @ reference clock)
http://hexus.net/tech/reviews/graphics/43685-evga-geforce-gtx-660-ti-superclocked/ (EVGA GTX 660 Ti SuperClocked)
http://hexus.net/tech/reviews/graphics/43797-kfa2-geforce-gtx-660-ti-ex-oc-3gb/ (Galaxy KFA² GTX 660 Ti EX OC 3GB)
http://www.hardocp.com/article/2012/08/16/galaxy_geforce_gtx_660_ti_gc_3gb_video_card_review (GALAXY GTX 660 Ti GC 3GB)
http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/article/EVGA-GeForce-GTX-660-Ti-SuperClocked-Video-Card-Review/1616 (EVGA GTX 660 Ti SuperClocked)
http://www.overclockers.com/evga-gtx-660ti-sc-gpu-review (EVGA GTX 660 Ti SuperClocked)
http://www.overclockers.com/msi-gtx-660-ti-power-edition-graphics-card-review (MSI GTX 660 Ti Power Edition)
http://www.ninjalane.com/reviews/video/msi_660ti_power (MSI GTX 660 Ti Power Edition)
http://www.pureoverclock.com/Review-detail/msi-gtx-660-ti-power-edition/ (MSI GTX 660 Ti Power Edition)
http://www.pureoverclock.com/Review-detail/zotac-gtx-660-ti-amp-edition/ (Zotac GTX 660 Ti AMP! Edition)
http://www.legionhardware.com/articles_pages/gigabyte_geforce_gtx_660_ti,1.html (Gigabyte GTX 660 Ti OC)
http://www.vortez.net/articles_pages/zotac_gtx660ti_amp_edition_review,1.html (Zotac GTX 660 Ti AMP! Edition)

Non-English reviews

http://www.computerbase.de/artikel/grafikkarten/2012/test-nvidia-geforce-gtx-660-ti/7/ (Gainward GTX 660 Ti Phantom, Galaxy KFA² GTX 660 Ti EX OC 3GB, MSI GTX 660 Ti Power Edition, ASUS GTX 660 Ti Direct CU II TOP)
http://ht4u.net/reviews/2012/nvidia_geforce_gtx_660_ti_asus_dc2_top_test/index40.php (ASUS GTX 660 Ti Direct CU II TOP)
http://www.pcgameshardware.de/aid,1017214/Test-Nvidia-Geforce-GTX-660-Ti/Grafikkarte/Test/ (ASUS GTX 660 Ti Direct CU II TOP @ reference clock ?)
http://www.hardwareluxx.de/index.php/artikel/hardware/grafikkarten/23375-test-nvidia-geforce-gtx-660-ti.html (EVGA GTX 660 Ti Superclocked, Zotac GTX 660 Ti AMP! Edition, ASUS GTX 660 Ti Direct CU II TOP)
http://www.ixbt.com/video3/gk104-7-part1.shtml (Palit GTX 660 Ti JetStream, Zotac GTX 660 Ti AMP! Edition)
http://lab501.ro/placi-video/gainward-gtx-660-ti-phantom-review (Gainward GTX 660 Ti Phantom)
http://www.sweclockers.com/recension/15750-nvidia-geforce-gtx-660-ti (Galaxy KFA² GTX 660 Ti EX OC 3GB, ASUS GTX 660 Ti Direct CU II TOP, PNY GTX 660 Ti)
http://www.ocaholic.ch/xoops/html/modules/smartsection/item.php?itemid=821 (ASUS GTX 660 Ti Direct CU II TOP)
http://www.pcworld.fr/carte-graphique/tests,test-asus-geforce-gtx-660-ti-directcu-ii-top,530815,1.htm (ASUS GTX 660 Ti Direct CU II TOP)
http://www.59hardware.net/dossier/c...787/0.html.html (Gigabyte GTX 660 Ti OC)
http://www.revioo.com/articles/a17772_0.html (ASUS GTX 660 Ti Direct CU II TOP)
http://www.cowcotland.com/articles/1158/gtx-660-ti-une-bonne-carte-pour-gamer-non-fortune.html (MSI GTX 660 Ti Power Edition)
http://pclab.pl/art45597.html (ASUS GTX 660 Ti Direct CU II TOP, EVGA GTX 660 Ti Superclocked, Gigabyte GTX 660 Ti OC,Palit GTX 660 Ti JetStream, Zotac GTX 660 Ti AMP! Edition)
http://pctuning.tyden.cz/hardware/graficke-karty/24756-gigabyte-geforce-gtx-660-ti-jina-nez-jsme-cekali?start=1 (Gigabyte GTX 660 Ti OC)
http://www.ozeros.com/2012/08/review-nvidia-gtx-660-ti/ (nVidia GTX 660 Ti Reference)

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http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?282515-GTX-660-Ti-reviews-thread&p=5128344

GRINDCORE MEGGIDO fucked around with this message at 22:10 on Aug 16, 2012

GRINDCORE MEGGIDO
Feb 28, 1985


Thanks for the heads up, working now.

GRINDCORE MEGGIDO
Feb 28, 1985


Fanelien posted:

Found the last test particularly surprising, a 3930k at 4ghz is no slouch, but it seems the physx workload is just not designed for a CPU at all

I wonder if PhysX CPU uses any SSE instructions at all?

GRINDCORE MEGGIDO
Feb 28, 1985


Good man, that's cool as heck!

GRINDCORE MEGGIDO
Feb 28, 1985


Zotix posted:

I'm looking at getting a 670 GTX here in the next week or two. Is the Gigabyte triple fan card the go to? How hot does the 6xx series run compared to say a 580GTX? My 570 GTX reference model runs hot as gently caress, even though my computer has a decent cooling setup.

I like the MSI Twin Frozr IV for its cooling, particularly for very quiet idle.
670GTX uses around ~15% less power vs 570 so if you get a model with decent cooling it should run a fair bit cooler then reference 570.

e- removed bit about sorting airflow where the card is, you mentioned that's OK.

GRINDCORE MEGGIDO fucked around with this message at 23:44 on Sep 3, 2012

GRINDCORE MEGGIDO
Feb 28, 1985


Glen Goobersmooches posted:

Mine was OCed (the CCC cap is really low for the series unfortunately) but the gap in power between the two models is more significant than could be bridged by such.

Sapphire Trixx is good, no low limit if the card can be controlled by it.
I thought clocking a 7850 even with CCC got it very close to a 7870?

GRINDCORE MEGGIDO
Feb 28, 1985


bacon! posted:

Why not? I've got a 2560x1440 monitor and I was under the impression the cards with more VRAM would perform better specifically at those resolutions. Faulty assumption?

For a single card @ that res, I'd consider a 7970 - have a look at reviews using modern drivers.

GRINDCORE MEGGIDO
Feb 28, 1985


Does anybody have a 7850 card, and have a problem where the fans spin up every 10 seconds or so when the card is in long idle (black screen) ?

I have an MSI twin frozr IV 7850 that does this, and not convinced getting a replacement is going to solve it (seems very much like the Radeon Spin up bug).

GRINDCORE MEGGIDO
Feb 28, 1985


spasticColon posted:

I'm wondering if I'm having this issue with both of my Sapphire HD7850 cards. I have one in my main i5-2500K rig and one in my i3-2120 rig hooked up to my HDTV. After the screen goes black I hear the fans spin up for about a second or two every 10-20 seconds. If I set the monitor to never go into sleep mode it stops but then I have to manually turn off the monitor or my HDTV.

Sounds like similar thing -
I'm more worried about when I come to sell the card, if it ends up being returned.

Some guy on MSI forum updated the vid card bios and fixed it, but this one is latest apparently and still does it (diff. model card to theirs). Might be worth seeing if yours has latest bios though?

If you ever fix it somehow please let me know. I wonder if I return it if the new card will do same.

GRINDCORE MEGGIDO
Feb 28, 1985


Wozbo posted:

Also, I believe the 8xx from nvidia series will be the first to have its own dedicated mini cpu for talking to the CPU (If I'm not mistaken, this is to make things like context switching easier and do the whole GPGPU thing).

Got any more info on that, sounds interesting?

GRINDCORE MEGGIDO
Feb 28, 1985


I wonder what is being powered by the 9V, no way is that powering the GPU?
Hope they don't find similar in AMD MSI cards or I'm SOL.

e- I've been trying to get a response out of MSI re: my 7850 fan spinning up and they are just ignoring the messages. Compared to my experience with Corsair and Lian Li support (both awesome) I have to say MSI are poo poo at responding and it will be on my mind when I buy another piece of hardware.

GRINDCORE MEGGIDO fucked around with this message at 17:40 on Oct 2, 2012

GRINDCORE MEGGIDO
Feb 28, 1985


Factory Factory posted:

XFX's response: "We're not RMA'ing that. Download Riva Tuner and overclock the VRAM by 1 MHz to make it stop." God help you if you updated your drivers months later and broke Riva Tuner or its autostart, because the patterning would start again well after you'd forgotten why it was there or how to solve it.

That's terrible customer service. My experience with MSI was not in the same league of bad (although they did say to run Afterburner, which while it was running stopped the fans on my 7850 firing up every 20 seconds while it long idled - simply by stopping it going into long idle :downs:).

e- that makes me wonder, has anyone ever had a good experience like that with a supplier? (reported fault, supplier fixed bios and sent it to the customer)

GRINDCORE MEGGIDO fucked around with this message at 18:43 on Oct 12, 2012

GRINDCORE MEGGIDO
Feb 28, 1985


Upcoming 12.11 drivers have been previewed by a few sites, and look like they'll be pretty decent performance increases - if you're on a 7 series card.

http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/AMD/Catalyst_12.11_Performance/
http://hexus.net/tech/reviews/graphics/46905-amd-catalyst-1211-benchmarked-surprising-performance-gains/
http://www.anandtech.com/show/6393/amds-holiday-plans-cat1211-new-bundle

GRINDCORE MEGGIDO
Feb 28, 1985


I never did find the fault with the fans on my MSI 7850 spinning up when the card idled (PITA), but I fitted an Accelero S1 Rev. 2 with a ~600rpm fan and it's inaudible, better temps too.

Just incase anyone was wondering if those old coolers fitted 7850's, YMMV but it fitted a Twin Frozr IV 7850. I had to replace one of the included ramsinks with a low profile one from the bits box, all fine.

Impressed by this old cooler - used it as it was cheap and was more or less the biggest that would fit in this ITX box. All crammed in nicely.

GRINDCORE MEGGIDO fucked around with this message at 00:56 on Dec 16, 2012

GRINDCORE MEGGIDO
Feb 28, 1985


Endymion FRS MK1 posted:

I'll stick with a Radeon any day.

I wouldn't, I'd buy either, but when I go nVidia again I hope to gently caress they've fixed the driver has stopped responding bug I had with two five series cards in different systems, one not mine. It is irrational to think they haven't, but.. still.

GRINDCORE MEGGIDO fucked around with this message at 03:21 on Jan 19, 2013

GRINDCORE MEGGIDO
Feb 28, 1985


Factory Factory posted:

At the same time, an i5-3570K could probably do all the work of eight Jaguar cores even without hyperthreading, just by juggling threads.

I wonder what priorities made them choose the Jaguar approach.

GRINDCORE MEGGIDO
Feb 28, 1985


Just installed my first nVidia graphics card since an 8800GT. Fresh install of Windows, just because... "nVidia driver has stopped responding". :/
That's... that's not the nVidia driver supremacy I was hoping for. Hope it's just an isolated event!

GRINDCORE MEGGIDO
Feb 28, 1985


I removed the fan on my EVGA 750Ti SC, leaving the stock heatsink. It doesn't break 80degrees C gaming passive cooled this way - only played SR IV so far on it and other games will probably heat it more, but so far quite impressed.

e- if it is throttling, I can't see it (in this game at least).

(airflow in the rest of the PC is low - There is a single 900RPM fan set as exhaust, no other fans in the whole thing.)

GRINDCORE MEGGIDO fucked around with this message at 00:07 on Nov 2, 2014

GRINDCORE MEGGIDO
Feb 28, 1985


Just incase anyone is running a 750TI in a quiet system and wants more silence, the Accelero S3 has compatibility.

(Also the Accelero S1 Plus fits, too, **E- it fits my EVGA SC, anyhow** no modification required. It has the correct mounting holes... I did this after buying an EVGA SC edition, and the fan running at a min of 40% all the time. It never hits over 65deg now, in a case with low ventilation).

GRINDCORE MEGGIDO fucked around with this message at 00:36 on Feb 24, 2015

GRINDCORE MEGGIDO
Feb 28, 1985


Boiled Water posted:

Considering the low low TDP couldn't you take off the fan and leave it at that?

I tried this on mine but it kept throttling :(
The stock heatsink didn't have much surface area. Maybe some other 750Ti cards have better stock heatsinks and it would be fine.

quote:

Any word if the S3 works with the GTX 970? It doesn't say specifically on AC's site but if it works with a 760 a 970 should be ok (as far as TDP, no idea about form factor).

Sadly it doesn't look like the S3 supports 58.4 mm x 58.4 mm mounting holes :(
Wonder if the mono plus mounting hardware fits? that supports the 970.

(Ya, the S1's are good - I have another on a 7850 and it's still going strong).

GRINDCORE MEGGIDO fucked around with this message at 05:26 on Feb 24, 2015

GRINDCORE MEGGIDO
Feb 28, 1985


BurritoJustice posted:

I almost want them to do a two layer ram setup and then cock it up just for the schadenfreude after the amount they threw poo poo about the 970. Which is the worst case for the consumer of course, but it'd be a silver liming.

I only saw the 4GB is 4GB thing. What else did AMD do?

Wanna see a 390x board layout, could be quite a small card under the big cooler I guess?

GRINDCORE MEGGIDO
Feb 28, 1985


That motherboard /needs/ Gskill Sniper memory:


.......I have some :( (low voltage, in a single fan quiet pc.)

GRINDCORE MEGGIDO fucked around with this message at 05:55 on Mar 2, 2015

GRINDCORE MEGGIDO
Feb 28, 1985


I don't really see how flattening the paste out by hand helps any if the cooler mounting pressure is any good at all. (and if it isn't good, spreading the paste out by hand isn't going to help).

GRINDCORE MEGGIDO
Feb 28, 1985


Using ESD bands is so ingrained with me now, even if the risk was zero I'd probably find it hard not to use them when building machines :v:

I've built a few machines, and some components failed within warranty, as you'd expect. (It'd be weird as hell if nothing ever failed) As I used ESD bands, I know that I observed the manufacturers guidelines when I built them, and I am blissfully blame free.

We were taught that static (a looong time ago) can and will reduce lifespan, not that it just kills things stone dead immediately. (Efb!).

GRINDCORE MEGGIDO fucked around with this message at 19:47 on Mar 12, 2015

GRINDCORE MEGGIDO
Feb 28, 1985


Sir Unimaginative posted:

"the circuits are so small soldering on the heatspreader would kill the chip", but there was a way to do it right and it didn't involve a pancake of gunk inside the heatspreader

Maybe I'm misreading...
I thought the Ivy Bridge-E and Haswell-E chips continued to use a "solder" TIM, and the cheaper, non -E chips got the bukkake treatment.
I assumed they did it for cost reasons, and the -E chips produce more heat.

(Pretty sure the "soldered" IHS use conductive epoxy at least on Ivy-E / Haswell-E, but no idea if they actually need heat to apply them.)

GRINDCORE MEGGIDO fucked around with this message at 02:31 on Mar 31, 2015

GRINDCORE MEGGIDO
Feb 28, 1985


necrobobsledder posted:

I moved my GTX 680 from an old machine to a new one and now I got coil whine when I never had any before. It's definitely possible to get coil whine (or potentially remove it!) by changing PSUs, motherboards, etc. that can change the harmonics in the electrical system that would cause the resonance. Some people use VSync to avoid this, others might need to disable it (I run VSync to avoid having the fans run faster). I'll just live with it until Pascal GPUs are out though I think, too busy to bother playing anything coming out in 2015 anymore, so no point upgrading to even a 970.

Just wondering, do you have spread spectrum enabled in the new systems bios? Might be worth trying it if not.

GRINDCORE MEGGIDO fucked around with this message at 00:52 on Apr 2, 2015

GRINDCORE MEGGIDO
Feb 28, 1985


sauer kraut posted:

What is it about EVGA and Gigabyte that draws people so to them :confused:

I don't know about Gigabyte, but Evga used to have relatively good warranties at least.

(I have an Evga 750ti, but only because it was the smallest card available at the time. Didn't matter in the end though as the fan curve for the cooler was crap and couldn't be edited below 40% fan speed, so I put a bigass accelero passive cooler on it and bought a bigger case. CBA dealing with tiny micro cases anymore)

GRINDCORE MEGGIDO
Feb 28, 1985


If Samsung / IBM etc did buy AMD, they lose the x86 license, right?

GRINDCORE MEGGIDO
Feb 28, 1985


Actually, /does/ AMD lose the x86 license if they are bought out? This seems to suggest not

http://www.kitguru.net/components/graphic-cards/anton-shilov/amd-x86-license-agreement-with-intel-cannot-block-our-merger-or-acquisition/

GRINDCORE MEGGIDO
Feb 28, 1985


Zero VGS posted:

Whatever you do, don't get the EVGA FTW version, the fans are as loud as gently caress at idle for no reason whatsoever. The other EVGA stuff is all quieter.

I got an SC 750ti, it's the same - no option to switch the fans below 20% or whatever, and they're noisy at that level.

I just put an Accelero passive cooler on and it even handles overclocks.

GRINDCORE MEGGIDO
Feb 28, 1985


I'd post this in the FO4 thread, but it's pretty much full retard in there right now, so I hope this isn't offtopic.

Which card would be better for running Fallout 4, at 1920 x 1080, and is there much in it?

750ti
7850

Both 2GB.

The CPU is a 4.4Ghz 2500K, currently with a 750Ti in there.
I'd expect the 7850 to be slightly faster, but I don't know if it's worth the effort of swapping cards over or not.

GRINDCORE MEGGIDO fucked around with this message at 12:12 on Nov 13, 2015

GRINDCORE MEGGIDO
Feb 28, 1985


It's a good time to pick up a can of air duster too, and blow any crap out of the power supply.

GRINDCORE MEGGIDO
Feb 28, 1985


Hi Jinx posted:

You know how the old saying goes: if you've got a drill press, every problem looks like it needs a hole.

Pretty sure that's the exact saying.

Didn't that guy say he built his own case? I wonder how much of a train wreck that is.

GRINDCORE MEGGIDO
Feb 28, 1985


mobby_6kl posted:

I used to have an 8800GT until the fan died and it burned itself to a crisp.

I installed a driver update on my 8800gt and the fan stopped working, I only noticed as the case was open. No idea what version driver it was.

GRINDCORE MEGGIDO fucked around with this message at 17:40 on Apr 7, 2016

GRINDCORE MEGGIDO
Feb 28, 1985


How is SLI and VR?

GRINDCORE MEGGIDO
Feb 28, 1985


Mine sits under the desk, on the floor like a animal you piece of poo poo.

GRINDCORE MEGGIDO
Feb 28, 1985


How much vram is the game using at those settings?

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GRINDCORE MEGGIDO
Feb 28, 1985


That poster is saying it seems like a weird inefficient way of doing things. Perhaps that's the point, maybe not everyone claims the money back.

quote:

scandinavian socialist ways
Tell us about Lutefisk
Why is it sold as food

GRINDCORE MEGGIDO fucked around with this message at 13:25 on May 3, 2016

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