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Wyvernil
Mar 10, 2007

Meddle not in the affairs of dragons... for you are crunchy and taste good with ketchup.
Just cross-posting this from the LP thread. Looks like this game's getting an anime adaptation.

http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2012-12-07/persona-4-kishi-directs-danganronpa-game-tv-anime

If the adaptation gets translated, I wonder if it will increase the chances of the games being localized overseas?

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Wyvernil
Mar 10, 2007

Meddle not in the affairs of dragons... for you are crunchy and taste good with ketchup.

Policenaut posted:

So that Dangan Ronpa teaser from the other day is reportedly revealed in this week's issue of Famitsu: "Dangan Ronpa 1 & 2 Reload"

I wonder if a re-release on Vita means that there's a chance of someone making an official localization of the game into English. The Vita seems like a more robust system than the PSP was at the time the first game was released.

I also wonder if the remake of the first game will give expanded free time events to some of the early victims, since the second game apparently has at least five for every student.

(DR1 spoilers)Especially if this "school mode" that was mentioned is some sort of side story that takes place during the students' time at Hope's Peak before the Despairing Incident went down. I wonder if that means that there will be free time events with the real Junko? Those could be... interesting.

Wyvernil fucked around with this message at 07:26 on Jun 19, 2013

Wyvernil
Mar 10, 2007

Meddle not in the affairs of dragons... for you are crunchy and taste good with ketchup.

RefinedUndefined posted:

Running it through Google Translate, the "scheduling" thing appears to be a cleaning schedule. However the "dating event" and "spare Monokuma" are strange, does "dating event" refer to the free-time events or something new, and why is there a "spare" Monobear if this is supposed to be peaceful?

From what I gathered from a Google translation, in this mode the students are trying to build their own Monobear to take back control of the school and escape. Also, the screenshots seem to suggest that the entire school is open from the beginning.

(DR1 spoilers)I wonder why there's no threat of mutual killing in this mode if Monobear is still around. Did the memory wipe fail, making it more difficult to convince the students to kill each other? Or is Junko incapacitated in this scenario, and she has a backup AI of some kind controlling Monobear? Without her supplying motives to kill, the students might find it easier to cooperate.

Wyvernil
Mar 10, 2007

Meddle not in the affairs of dragons... for you are crunchy and taste good with ketchup.

lotus circle posted:

She confirmed voicing both Touko and Junko on twitter yesterday. An odd choice honestly, since both were voiced by different people originally, but I guess they want to conserve some of their budget.

I doubt they'll get separate VAs for Mukuro though. The same voice actress voiced both twins in the original and both roles are technically bit parts, as there's only a couple voiced lines for Mukuro before she dies and Junko is only in the second half of the last trial.

If this is being done to conserve budget, I'm also going to suspect they'll "double-up" on character voices for Maizono, since most of the voice acting is in the trial scenes, and she and Junko are the two who die before a trial starts. I'm guessing whoever they get for her voice will also be doing Asahina or Celes.

If they are doubling up on voices for characters that die early and don't get many lines, it could have the unfortunate side-effect of making it too easy to guess who dies first(for those who are playing the game for the first time).

Wyvernil
Mar 10, 2007

Meddle not in the affairs of dragons... for you are crunchy and taste good with ketchup.
Since the first game's LP is now done, dusted, and in the LP archive, I might as well take the time to post some links to the Free Time Events that Oren never got around to doing in the LP itself. These use the other translation patch that got released, but they should help to impart some additional information about some of the characters.

Naturally, these contain spoilers, so stay away if you haven't finished the LP or game. They are linked in Polsy to minimize spoiler exposure from the related links.

Ishimaru
Hagakure
Togami
Kirigiri
Fukawa
Genocider Syo

Incidentally, one of these extra free time events does address one of the apparent plot holes that bugged me when the LP was going through the game's final chapter. Namely, how Togami managed to survive two years at Hope's Peak Academy with Genocider Syo lusting after him. In her last free time event, Syo mentions that Togami is the first person she's fallen for who she hasn't had an urge to kill, and that she wouldn't kill anyone else if she could be with him. So that also explains why Syo didn't kill anyone else at Hope's Peak, and get found out before being locked in with the others.

Wyvernil
Mar 10, 2007

Meddle not in the affairs of dragons... for you are crunchy and taste good with ketchup.

Bean posted:

I like the idea that they don't gently caress around and that Junko is the protagonist, with no explanation. That would e a good reason to keep it contained as long as possible.

Alternative idea, the protagonist is Junko, but for some mysterious reason she's gotten hugely fat.

If they're going to put Junko in DR3, I think the best way would be if she isn't the mastermind this time, but an ordinary participant in the mutual killing game. This series does like putting unpredictable wild cards into the game, like Syo or Komaeda. It'd be... interesting to see how the former mastermind reacts to a despair game she isn't controlling. Would she kill to escape, or would she be enjoying the DESPAIR too much?

Besides, her interactions with the new Monokuma could be hilarious. Like if she ends up complaining that the latest motive is not despairing enough.

Wyvernil
Mar 10, 2007

Meddle not in the affairs of dragons... for you are crunchy and taste good with ketchup.

Bloody Emissary posted:

My best guesses for DR3 are either the Togami succession, the Worst, Most Despair-Inducing Incident in the History of Hope's Peak Academy, or a mutual killing game composed of the survivors from the first three games. The last one is mostly just wishful thinking, though.

I have a few theories as to where DR3 could go. (DR1 and SDR2 spoilers below)

1. The time line jumps ahead twenty years or so, to a point where society has recovered from the Despairing Incident enough for a new Hope's Peak Academy to open, and a new generation of students to be thrown into a mutual killing game. Some of the new students may be descendants of the survivors from the first two games.

2. Having run out of super high-school students, we move up to super university-level students. I got the impression that the Future Foundation was comprised of the Hope's Peak graduates who survived the Despairing Incident, so they could make up the new class of students.

3. The new batch of students aren't super high-school students at all, but were artificially given talents by the Future Foundation (perhaps using a similar method as that used to create Izuru Kamukura) to help in rebuilding the world following the incident.

Wyvernil
Mar 10, 2007

Meddle not in the affairs of dragons... for you are crunchy and taste good with ketchup.

Bloody Emissary posted:

The art for DR:AE's preorder bonus products has been released.

Looks like we're getting another sibling of a DR1 character.

Didn't see anything in the text hinting as to who that is(though Google Translate is kinda unreliable), so I went looking through the art. Well, here's what the scavenger hunt turned up.



(spoiler tagged just in case)

The lavender-haired girl in the left picture next to Fukawa does look a lot like Kirigiri. From what we heard about her background, though, I can't really imagine her having a sister. Seeing as we've already seen Naegi and Togami in previews, this might just be Kyouko in more casual attire.

The person across from her with the laptop, on the other hand, resembles Chihiro Fujisaki. Maybe this is Chihiro's younger sibling. With how androgynous this character looks, it'd be amusing, if a bit predictable, if Chihiro's sibling also turned out to be a crossdresser. Maybe a girl pretending to be a boy.

The girl in the right picture with the cigarette in her mouth could be Mondo's sister, given her punkish appearance. It'd be funny if she took over Mondo's old biker gang after he left for Hope's Peak, and the gang managed to survive the Despairing Incident, since roving bikers have been a staple of post-apocalyptic fiction since Mad Max. Of course, this also could be Hagakure's sister we've heard about in previous previews, since she looks a bit like him as well.

Which one of these was the above statement referring to?

(Am I being too cautious with the spoiler tags? I could remove them if need be.)

Wyvernil
Mar 10, 2007

Meddle not in the affairs of dragons... for you are crunchy and taste good with ketchup.

orenronen posted:

These two are the same character, who had already been announced - it's the one with the last name Hagakure. None of them have actually been confirmed as siblings, though I guess that's likely. In any case, Kirigiri is a confirmed only child, assuming her books are canon.

Bloody Emissary's post indeed refers to the Chihiro-looking kid.


Actually, Chihiro having a sibling might explain a few things about the end of SDR2.

For instance, how Alter Ego is still around. If Chihiro's sibling is a programmer like their brother, then they might know how to recreate the Alter Ego program, or extract it from the Hope's Peak computer system or remains of the wrecked laptop.

Do we know the character's name yet? For some reason, I'm thinking "Chiaki Fujisaki". Somehow... it makes sense.

Wyvernil
Mar 10, 2007

Meddle not in the affairs of dragons... for you are crunchy and taste good with ketchup.

orenronen posted:

These two are the same character, who had already been announced - it's the one with the last name Hagakure. None of them have actually been confirmed as siblings, though I guess that's likely. In any case, Kirigiri is a confirmed only child, assuming her books are canon.

Upon thinking about it, and taking a closer look at the character sprite, I'm getting the feeling that my first instinct may not be entirely off.



There's still the possibility that this person actually is Kyouko Kirigiri in disguise. The big warning sign to me is that she appears to be wearing white gloves, which would hide the burns on her hands that would give her true identity away. Besides, the resemblance just seems to be a bit too uncanny.

Another point to mention is that if a high-school aged girl was trying to pass herself off as the sister of a Hope's Peak student, then Hagakure would be the most likely candidate because he was held back in school and is older than the rest. Thus, it'd be believable for him to have a sister of high school age.

Of course, this raises further questions. If Kirigiri is hiding her identity, then why isn't Fukawa? They should both be part of the same organization, right? :tinfoil:

Then again, this could be the writers pulling another Komaeda and loving with us again.

Wyvernil
Mar 10, 2007

Meddle not in the affairs of dragons... for you are crunchy and taste good with ketchup.

lotus circle posted:

I think you're overthinking it.

The woman has a completely different body build from Kirigiri in every way. The eyes are different, the hair color isn't the same (Kirigiri's hair is more purple-white while this woman is a pale pink) and this woman appears naturally taller. I'm also not seeing the gloves you're mentioning on her sprite.

Moreover if Naegi's sister and Fukawa are involved, I see no reason Kirigiri would decide to hide her identity from them. These "new character is actually an existing character" theories have never been true in any case, especially when solely based off how a character looks.


On the sprites where they're visible, her hands look paler than the rest of her body. That's why I assumed those were gloves. The 2D sprite has her hands in her pockets, so I couldn't get a clearer look at whether or not she was wearing gloves.

I admit that I might be overthinking it. Based off of SDR2, it's probably too soon to speculate on these things just going off the character design.

Wyvernil
Mar 10, 2007

Meddle not in the affairs of dragons... for you are crunchy and taste good with ketchup.

Bloody Emissary posted:

I thiiink I remember someone mentioning in the LP thread that Kuzuryuu was originally supposed to be killed instead of Saionji? It might explain the complete lack of discussion regarding whatever sharp tool was used to kill her, at least; it always bugged me that the investigation completely disregarded that.

I'm curious how the change in victims would explain why the murder weapon for Saionji/Kuzuryuu never came up. The best thing I can come up with is if the cause of death in the original scenario where Kuzuryuu was the victim was that his wound from when he stabbed himself earlier in Chapter 3 reopened and he bled out.

As for a theoretical situation in a future game where the culprit confesses immediately at the start of the trial, for gameplay reasons that would only work if the person confessing isn't actually the culprit.

Chapter 4 of the first game handled a situation where someone (or multiple someones, actually) mistakenly thought they were the culprit, but one situation I'd like to see is one where not even Monobear knows what happened. For instance, if the murder happened in one of those areas outside of Monobear's surveillance like the baths from the first game.

This situation might introduce a situation where someone confesses to the crime to protect the actual culprit without everyone else getting killed due to graduation, trying to trick Monobear into executing the wrong person for the murder.

Wyvernil fucked around with this message at 18:19 on Sep 12, 2014

Wyvernil
Mar 10, 2007

Meddle not in the affairs of dragons... for you are crunchy and taste good with ketchup.
This reminds me of the "Super High-School Level Time Traveller" idea that popped up during speculation in the LP of the second game. Basically, someone who was sent back in time to prevent the Despairing Incident from happening.

If the third game takes place in the past, I could see this idea actually becoming a thing, especially since they keep bringing up Back to the Future.

Shin Dangan Ronpa 3: Despair to the Future?

Wyvernil
Mar 10, 2007

Meddle not in the affairs of dragons... for you are crunchy and taste good with ketchup.

FPzero posted:

I'm wondering about this too. I really don't know where they would go with it. I did see some people theorizing it could be set a few years after DR2 and carry on from ending elements of Another Episode.

Specifically, Monaca still being alive at the end and carried off by Nagito before he ended up in DR2.

Yeah, I agree that this game will probably end up taking place several years after the end of DR2.

(Another Episode spoilers)
At least, long enough for the Super Elementary Students to age up to high school age. I'm expecting that some of them will show up here as high school students. Especially Monaka, who seems to be set up to be the new mastermind. Of course, for the people that played Another Episode, that twist seems to be a bit too easy, so I'm expecting some crazy twist involving her.

For instance, maybe she gets revealed early in the game and serves as a wild card like Nagito, with the implication that there's another mastermind behind the scenes. It'd be interesting to see how the students deal with someone who's fully given in to despair - they can't exactly kill her if they don't want another school trial.

Wyvernil
Mar 10, 2007

Meddle not in the affairs of dragons... for you are crunchy and taste good with ketchup.

orenronen posted:

For those who haven't read today's news: DR3 is actually *two* anime series. The first one ("Future Chapter") airs in July and is the one with Naegi, Kirigiri, Asahina and Hagakure, as well as all of these new characters. Later on we'll get another series (dubbed "Despair Chapter") that goes back to The Incident and features all of the DR2 cast pre-DR2.

Interesting... this setup might lend credence to a theory I've had regarding NDRV3 and it's relation to the "Hope's Peak" chapter of the series.

If I recall, before information on the new game and anime came out, the developer had stated in an interview that Back to the Future might be an influence in the third game in the series.

So what if the third game takes place in an alternate timelime where the Despairing Incident was prevented, and the resulting apocaylpse never happened?

Maybe the first series will end with Naegi going back in time to stop the incident (or sending information back in time for the same goal), and the second series shows how the Incident was averted?

I notice that the preview shows Hajime as himself, and not as Izuru Kamukura(which would make sense if the series took place during the Incident). I wonder if there's some significance to this? Maybe the timeline change somehow reverses the Ultimate Hope programming and causes Izuru to revert back to Hajime.

Wyvernil
Mar 10, 2007

Meddle not in the affairs of dragons... for you are crunchy and taste good with ketchup.
Found another article on Danganronpa V3, but this one has a list of the characters and their talents.

http://gematsu.com/2016/09/new-danganronpa-v3-launches-january-12-japan

Cast list below in spoilers in case you want to be surprised:

Korekiyo Shinguuji – Ultimate Folklorist (Masked, bandaged guy)

Angie Yonaga – Ultimate Art Club (Girl in swimwear)

Zanbi Toujo – Ultimate Maid (Girl in maid costume)

Koyoshi Ouma – Ultimate President (Guy in white suit and checkered scarf)

Tsumugi Shiragane – Ultimate Cosplayer (Glasses girl)

Kiibo – Ultimate Robot (Robo-Naegi from the trailer)

Tenshi Chabashira – Ultimate Aikido Practitioner (Girl with pinwheel ribbon)

Kaede Akamatsu – Ultimate Pianist (Protagonist)

Hiroto Hyakuta – Ultimate Astronaut (Goateed guy from the trailer)

Maki Harukawa – Ultimate Nursery Teacher (Pigtailed girl in red from the trailer)

Shuuichi Saihara – Ultimate Detective (Guy with black cap and uniform)

Ryouma Hoshi – Ultimate Tennis Player (Midget mime in leather jacket)

Rantaro Amakai – Ultimate ??? (Average-looking blond guy)

Himitsuko Yumeno – Ultimate Magician (Girl with witch hat)

Gonta Gokuhara – Ultimate Entomologist (Big barefoot dude in suit)

Mito Irima – Ultimate Inventor (Girl in pink with goggles)


Initial impressions:

It looks like they're going all in on the idea of a reboot, which is just as well given how bloated the backstory has become. If any of the new characters are related to the old cast, it will probably be treated as a big twist.

I'm betting that Saihara either turns out to be this game's Nagito, or he dies early. The repeat of one of the big "protagonist" talents on this guy makes me suspicious after the stunt they pulled with Nagito, and it's unlikely he's going to play the same role as Kyoko. An antagonist version of the "detective" talent has potential to be interesting, particularly if this is indeed a prison/reform school.

It's also surprising that they gave Kaede a relatively normal talent, while putting traditional protagonist talents like Detective and ??? on other characters. I'm hoping this doesn't mean she's a decoy protagonist, and she's going to get killed first.

Wyvernil
Mar 10, 2007

Meddle not in the affairs of dragons... for you are crunchy and taste good with ketchup.
I'm going to agree that the V3 students will have crimes that they are locked up for, in addition to their talents. It would add some potential for drama.

Some ideas for crimes:

Artist - Art forgery?

Cosplayer - Secretly a thief who uses her cosplay talent to act as a master of disguise. That or she's a copycat killer based on Genocide Jill.

Aikido - Not sure about her. Aikido is more of a defensive martial art, so "murder" doesn't seem right.

Astronaut - Violated several FAA (or the Japanese equivalent) airspace regulations with his homemade space rocket. This guy seems a little too laid back to be part of a professional space program. He strikes me as more of a Hagakure type who built his own rocket so he could go to space and meet aliens.

Tennis Player - Can't really think of anything for him, either. Since his outfit kind of resembles typical prison garb, maybe he's an expert at breaking out of jails.

Inventor - Probably involves one of her inventions being a death ray or some other type of doomsday device.

I'm going to guess that Kaede has no crime(or doesn't know what her crime is). She's an innocent student who was supposed to go to Hope's Peak(The ending of DR3 suggests that Naegi and friends are planning to reopen the school under new management), but ended up at the Gifted Inmates Academy by mistake.

I'm also going to guess that some of the crimes might include "Survived a previous mutual killing game by graduation" or "Being Ultimate Despair".

Wyvernil
Mar 10, 2007

Meddle not in the affairs of dragons... for you are crunchy and taste good with ketchup.
Yeah, the name of the school is the biggest clue. The fandom seems to have run with it because the concept is potentially interesting. But you're right in that it could be metaphorical. Especially since the "super high-school" talent designation suggests a connection to Hope's Peak. And unless the prison academy is meant as a safeguard against another tragedy or Ultimate Despair, it doesn't seem like the sort of thing Makoto would sign off on.

I've posted my theory on what the Gifted Inmates Academy is in the anime thread, but I'll repost it for posterity.

My thought is that the Gifted Inmates Academy was intended as an extension of the concept of the Neo World Program, and as a safeguard against another Tragedy happening. Perhaps New Hope's Peak Academy now has background checks and psychological exams before they accept a student into the academy. That way, they're able to intercept potential Junkos before they're able to get in and do any damage. The students who pass the entrance exam are admitted into Hope's Peak, and those who fail are shipped off to the Gifted Inmates Academy for rehabilitation. That way, the students can be taught to use their talents for productive purposes, and be given hope again.

Presumably, the students would have a chance to rejoin the main Hope's Peak academy following their rehabilition. Otherwise, this could just turn into another Reserve Course; with two tiers of students based on personal character rather than talent.

Perhaps the game will start with the typical introduction from the first two games; Kaede explains the concept of Hope's Peak Academy and introduces herself as a new student admitted there. She'll then mention that something bad happened at the school and they had to close for a while, so now they have psychological entrance exams. But just when Kaede arrives at the school gate to take her exam, the screen blurs and she passes out, and she wakes up at the Gifted Inmates Academy. Kaede has no idea what she's doing there, since she doesn't remember taking the exam and has no recollection of doing anything wrong. That's when we meet the other students and the game starts.

Wyvernil
Mar 10, 2007

Meddle not in the affairs of dragons... for you are crunchy and taste good with ketchup.
The news has been out for a few days, but I didn't see it here. So here's the full cast list for V3, complete with VAs:

(Might as well unspoiler the thing):

Kaede Akamatsu (Pianist) - Sayaka Kanda
Rantarou Amami (???) - Hikaru Midorikawa
Shuuichi Saihara (Detective) - Megumi Hayashibara
Maki Harukawa (Teacher) - Maaya Sakamoto
Kaito Momota (Astronaut) - Ryohei Kimura
Kiibo (Robot) - Tetsuya Kakihara
Miu Iruma (Inventor) - Haruka Ishida
Kokichi Ouma (Dictator) - Hiro Shimono
Gonta Gokuhara (Entomologist) - Shunsuke Takeuchi
Tsumugi Shirogane (Cosplayer) - Mikako Komatsu
Korekiyo Shinguuji (Folklorist) - Kenichi Suzumura
Tenko Chabashira (Aikido) - Sora Tokui
Kirumi Toujou (Maid) - Kikuko Inoue
Ryouma Hoshi (Tennis Player) - Akio Ohtsuka
Himiko Yumeno (Magician) - Aimi Tanaka
Angie Yonaga (Artist) - Minori Suzuki
Monokuma - TARAKO
Monokumars (Monotarou, Monodam, Monosuke, Monofanii, and Monokid) - Koichi Yamadera

Wyvernil fucked around with this message at 03:21 on Oct 24, 2016

Wyvernil
Mar 10, 2007

Meddle not in the affairs of dragons... for you are crunchy and taste good with ketchup.

Junpei posted:

Just going by interactions in the demo, who seems closest to the Byakuya/Nagito and Kyoko/Chiaki roles? Cuz Kiibo, Rantarou and Shuuichi all seem rather important to some extent, and even Kirumi seems to have some importance.

As far as the trial is concerned, in the demo Makoto and Hajime take the places of Kiibo and Rantaro. I'm not sure whether this means anything. They could be the "point-getters", or one of them could be the victim in the actual first trial. (The demo trial has Hagakure as the victim. Again.)

Ouma seems like he'll be a thorn in our sides, since he seemed to be the one who picked up on the lies the fastest once the lie bullets were introduced. Not sure if he'll be more like Byakuya or Fuyuhiko, though.

Shuuichi is a question mark. It's possible he'll be the ally character like Kyoko, but it's also possible that he'll be more of a rival character like Nagito. The preview screenshots of the first trial seem to suggest he'll be a suspect for the first murder (the screenshots for the scrum debate appear to have your team proving his innocence), but it remains to be seen how much of the preview screenshots are fake.

Wyvernil
Mar 10, 2007

Meddle not in the affairs of dragons... for you are crunchy and taste good with ketchup.

Irony Be My Shield posted:

I think the way to make another game that makes the most sense would be a prequel to V3. You can interpret Tsumugi's "copycat" line as saying that the entire fictional Dangan Ronpa series was ultimately inspired by a "real life" case, and adapt that. That would let you have a similar setup with a very different tone, dropping the sci-fi and hope/despair stuff for a setting that could kindof maybe sortof happen with more realistic characters. It would also respect V3's ending since they wouldn't be making a sequel and it would be materially different.

I'm thinking they'll go this way as well:

The natural route for the next game would be for it to be a prequel, or at least appear to be one.

Maybe they'll go the "V2" route and cover what happened in one of Rantaro's past games. Of course, since this would give Rantaro plot armor since we "know" he lasts long enough to appear in V3, he might end up getting killed just to screw with us. His appearance in V3 could be explained through the existence of imposters, memory shenanigans, cloning, or it being revealed this killing game wasn't actually a prequel after all.

They already pulled the "MC as victim/murderer" card; there aren't many more steps up on the surprising death scale than the "character who appears in a sequel so we know they won't die". Though at this point it might be more surprising if the surprise first victim is someone completely random who isn't built up as important.

Wyvernil
Mar 10, 2007

Meddle not in the affairs of dragons... for you are crunchy and taste good with ketchup.

Dessel posted:

Yeah it felt like it was even telegraphed that he'd be revealed as the Ultimate Liar. Could've probably sprinkled in plot how his some sort of lieinception saved the others and how his talent basically forces him to lie or something. I felt like it was a bit of a missed mark.

One theory I had on him mid-game was that his real talent was Ultimate Actor - the "Supreme Leader" was just a character he was playing. But he was such a supreme method actor that he was compelled to play the villain and stay in character at all times. Acting could be considered a form of "lying", from a certain point of view.

Wyvernil
Mar 10, 2007

Meddle not in the affairs of dragons... for you are crunchy and taste good with ketchup.

ApplesandOranges posted:

Some thoughts:

1. Even if they kept the same number of survivors, that's around seven characters that's going to die in both games. RIP.
2. I'm going to already assume that Hiyoko will live over Fuyuhiko since that was the original plan for the game before they decided on the latter to live since it would otherwise undo Peko's sacrifice. It's also why they brushed over Hiyoko's cause of death in the actual game.
3. Hoping for Nekomaru to live since the buff characters never live to the end.

As an aside, I'd heard the story of the Hiyoko/Fuyuhiko survivor swap was actually more complicated than popularly thought.

Apparently, rather than it being a simple victim/survivor swap, Fuyuhiko had been planned as the Chapter 4 victim, and would have turned into a robot instead of Nekomaru after his attempt to interfere in Peko's execution. But the writers realized that would have made his character a bit too silly, so they gave that plot to Nekomaru, who'd originally been planned as the second Chapter 3 victim. But then killing off Fuyuhiko so soon after Peko's sacrifice would have felt cheap, so they let him survive, and had Hiyoko as Chapter 3 victim instead.

It'll be interesting to see what they do with this "alternate scenario". Though I'm 50/50 on if they actually let Nagito be the first victim this time. On one hand, it'd be exactly the kind of surprise first death this series is known for. On the other hand, would they really go in that direction, given how popular that character is?

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Wyvernil
Mar 10, 2007

Meddle not in the affairs of dragons... for you are crunchy and taste good with ketchup.
Upon thinking about it, I'm starting to wonder if they're pulling a similar trick to Danganronpa V3, with the "V3 = 53" twist. So "Danganronpa 2x2" could turn out to be "Danganronpa 4", and the twist is that the "alternate scenario" was secretly a sequel. The Danganronpa 3 anime did end with all but one of the DR2 cast surviving, and they could explain Chiaki's presence with another AI.

This does also explain why they're remaking the second game with an alternate scenario before the first. An alternate DR1 would also be interesting, especially if Mukuro survives for longer, and has more impact on the plot.

Wyvernil fucked around with this message at 04:49 on Sep 13, 2025

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