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SuccinctAndPunchy posted:More detailed spoilers ahead: I liked certain twists like Hinata being Kamakura and the choice presented to the students being a sadistic one that I felt made the whole thing quite interesting to see. But the main twist of it all cheapened the entire story into cop-out nonsense and someone on the writing staff with the Junko obsession needs to be dragged away from the writing desk, she's not that interesting or threatening as a main villain. And for some reason Hinata just doesn't return back to being SHSL Despair when waking up from it all, was there a reason for that and I missed or did the game just cop-out pretty hard for no particular reason? I'm all spoiled now too, so more on the SDR2 ending: I was also kind of disappointed with the ending's premise that Hinata manages to hang onto himself through the power of hope/love/friendship/the future/etc, but I'm starting to warm up to it I think. I was thinking about how in DR0 they talked a bit about procedural memory compared to conscious memory, or how what's-her-face remembers Matsuda in an emotional way even when she doesn't remember consciously what's happened between them, or even what he precisely looks like until he's in front of her again. Though the SDR2 kids don't have their conscious memories of the trip, all that time spent in there struggling against Monobear has probably built up a lot of emotional subconscious stuff. That feeling of wanting to protect their friends and stick together must have lingered though they didn't quite remember why. That, and I imagine the DR1 trio could have filled them in on a few things.
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HelloWinter posted:I just figured that Hope's Peak keeps picking Naegi look-alikes every year by luck. No real mystery. Well, Naegi did say he's the completely average guy in everything. Maybe he also has the perfectly averaged appearance of any random high school boy in Dangan Ronpa land.
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Welp, that sure was a tiebreaker for whether Ishimaru or Sakura was my favorite DR1 character. Now I'm even more saddened by his untimely death.  I can't help wondering now what the hell would happen if he ever got to hang around Komaeda. e: hm, even if it's from the first game and already shown in the anime I suppose I should still spoiler that stuff. Bifauxnen fucked around with this message at 12:35 on Aug 28, 2013 |
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Anatharon posted:This is more related to the LP, but it's a spoiler for chapters 5-6, so.. Well, when I first saw this part, I sure didn't think anything of it either. As you said, a bunch of the other girls were also absent so why would Chiaki's absence seem any more strange than the others? Even if I had paused to really think about why certain people weren't around, I'd figure Chiaki wasn't very social and so she didn't hang around the others much when she could be gaming, so she wasn't involved at all in this story. Why throw in a G-ko, H-ko and I-ko and make things much harder to follow if they've got nothing to do with the murder or coverup?
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Sporkaganza posted:I'd like to see what other people think about this. Okay, I just went to check out the prologue to see if it would be a pleasant surprise. I thought the last trailer was completely horrific, but the character voices were pretty good! Togami wasn't quite as bad as I was expecting from skimming this thread, at least not in the tiny bit I saw. Naegi had kind of a dopey 4Kids vibe though, and Hagakure sounded a bit too dumb even for him. At least that's kind of fitting, I guess. But their writing's really nice. There's just a couple little bits where I prefer how oren's translated it, nothing major. Although it's a bit weird how they're trying to give people extra nicknames. The one thing that I cannot stand though, is Monobear's voice. I actually like the YouTube abridged series Monobear voice even more than this. If the other characters sound a bit off sometimes that's not so bad, but Monobear's such an iconic voice your hear throughout the whole game. It's really unfortunate. Oh well, good thing there's dual audio and the written text is fine. ...Except for that "blackened" poo poo from the trailer, that's still awful.
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Feb 9, 2014 00:33
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HelloWinter posted:Chapter 2 death spoilers I actually kind of like the choice of "Blood Lust" since it hints at Syo's true motivations. But what is with these guys and lovely fonts?
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Feb 13, 2014 03:31
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The voices in the trailer sounded a bit disappointing, but I'm hoping they grow on me and turn out better than I expected. Like they did for the first game. (except Monokuma) And Komaeda I'll give them a pass on, since there is probably no native English speaker alive they could possibly choose who'd compare to Ogata Megumi.
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May 26, 2014 01:56
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Seyser Koze posted:DR2 ending impressions: More ending spoilers: For the dead people, I don't think it's that their data was deleted, cause it wouldn't have been deleted yet, in any case. I thought it was more that the traumatic experience of "death" they went through was what put them in that state. But they did still have the data, which was why they could appear in the glitchy parts. In fact, Junko goes on about having so much data on them she could impersonate them, so those bits might have been Junko using them as NPC's to guide them to the last bit. Just like she impersonated Naegi for a while. The very end disappointed me a bit at first too. Cause after they set up that horrible choice it felt like a big deus ex machina for them to get any halfway satisfying ending out of it. But then I figured, if the "dead" kids are still affected and in a coma because of the trauma they went through in the game, despite their conscious memories of it being deleted, why couldn't the good effects be retained as well? I think that's what they were getting at with how the survivors had changed, wanting to stay and watch over the others. They might not consciously retain the memories of what exactly happened, but they've still been affected and had subconsciously changed their attitudes. But chapter 5 is still the absolute best.
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Sep 7, 2014 22:47
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Anatharon posted:This isn't really a plot spoiler, but it's my favorite scene in the entire game. Careful, it's not a "plot spoiler" but if you're all hyped for more Komaeda you probably shouldn't hover over that, it's better to see it yourself. My favorite though, is The "demonstration". The voice acting for that scene was just so drat good.
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Sep 11, 2014 03:43
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Beef Waifu posted:This is an unpopular opinion, but I always liked Makoto and thought he was a really fine protagonist. He fits perfectly as the main character in a game where every other character has personalities dialed up to 11. I actually agree with this, I think a lot of the "GOD he's so BORING" crowd might not have actually enjoyed the game as much if there wasn't a straight man to react to stuff and compare to. Even in the next game when he's not around, we end up comparing Hinata and Komaeda to him. And that comparison helps make their characters a lot more interesting.
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Sep 14, 2014 01:17
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Kay Kessler posted:This is just my opinion, but I don't really think this counts as a fanservice shot. Everything in that shot is positioned to draw the eye immediately to the fence. Maybe not, but it can get annoying sometimes how even these little things just always seem to show up so conveniently, you know? They could have just as easily swapped Nanami and Gundam's positions. Actually, now that I think about it the scene might have been funnier that way too. The mighty Gundam being brought so low as to search on his hands and knees!
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Jeez dude, it's okay to still like a game if it's not completely ideologically perfect, you know? You don't need to prove to everybody that anything you didn't bat an eyelash at is 100% approved pure and innocent or else your fun is spoiled and the SJW's won cause you're not allowed to like it anymore. I didn't think anything of that scene either, but when we started talking about how Nanami overall is kind of "pandering", you can look back and think "huh, I guess she kind of is." Any individual scene like that may be perfectly tame or have a perfectly reasonable explanation. It's more when you look at the whole, and how it always just happens to be a girl in a short skirt that gets shots or poses like that, it's easy to get a bit cynical about it.
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Volt Catfish posted:I have no counter. All I'll say is you guys are probably right and I just don't wanna talk about Dangan Ronpa anymore I do, but it's hard to find people to talk to about the series sometimes without looking like a giant creeper who's all about the anime fanservice. So I think that's why people get touchy about it...
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If you find the business end of chapter 5 to be "fanservice" though, then you're definitely hosed in the head somewhere. 
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Continuing the endgame spoilers:Terper posted:So I just couldn't imagine someone like Nekomaru or Ibuki or Sonia doing all that crazy poo poo. Still have trouble imagining it. Nidai I still have a hard time with, too. Ibuki I can sort of see, maybe she thought Junko's worldview was so death metal awesome, and wrote songs of despair in that unique solo style of hers. But Sonia, now her I can see joining SHSL Despair for sure. Mostly because of that part in chapter 2 where she has sympathy for the alternative views of serial killers. She probably ended up having the same appreciation for Junko's views. It makes me think she could have used her fame and position to spread the ideals of despair in a more political way, rather than a hands-on murdering kind of way.
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Clarste posted:I'm not sure it can even be called a flaw in the first place. Part of the point of DR2 chapter 5 was that Hinata lost all his support for the class trials (Nanami and Komaeda), leaving him without anyone to rely on. This contributes to the "true hopelessness" feeling of the finale. If Sonia or whoever had stepped up the plate as a replacement for Nanami, I don't think the emotional narrative they were trying to push would make any sense. I'm glad you mentioned that. I got that feeling as well at the very end of chapter 5, when you get the count of surviving students. Both Nanami and Komaeda get ticked off right on either side of Hinata, leaving him alone in the middle. It was a nice added touch to just rub it in how brutal that whole trial was. It's morbidly funny to compare both chapter 5's and see how much worse Hinata has it. In DR1, either Naegi or Kirigiri was going to get executed, and you can see that bad end of losing Kirigiri. But it gets taken back as a joke, and you save her after all, with Naegi lucking out of the execution he was going to take in her place. So in DR2, you probably go in wondering if it's right to point out Nanami or not, and if there's a way to save her just like with Kirigiri. I'm sure that it's no coincidence that the Tetris execution is very similar to the Detention smash. Even once the execution starts, there's that tease where she sees an escape door, but nope, that doesn't help. In DR1, it seemed like either Naegi or Kirigiri would have to sacrifice themselves for the other, but they both pulled through after all. In DR2, both of the major plot characters bite it.
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Terper posted:This one's my favorite. Congratulations Hajime, your true talent was "Comedian" all this time! This one was good too, but they mis-timed Nidai a little bit. He should have shown up juuuust a bit later.
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Checking out that AMV, I found this one in the sidebar that I liked even more: BIG SPOILER WARNING FOR THIS ONE TOO (including Dangan Ronpa Zero) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s07Il2-qsLk
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Volt Catfish posted:Alright, now it's time to figure how the hell a third game can even take place. (I hope we get a female protagonist this time) Totally change formats - have it be a slice of life game like Harvest Moon or Animal Crossing, set on Jabberwock Island post-DR2. 
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Yukari posted:Answering question in spoilers. I thought the theme of both chapter 5's was everything just being a crazy clusterfuck. Chapter 4 was the suicide in DR1. So if you take the parallels seriously, it vaguely implies that despite Gundam's posturing, his showdown with Nidai was really for the sake of the others.
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Butt Ghost posted:But why did they mirror the Killing School Life murders at all is what I'm asking. It would make since if the other students were programmed to do it or something, but they were all acting of their free will. It's a weird thing to just be a coincidence. Well, I guess part of that is supposed to be Junko planning everything out to an extreme degree and being that good about predicting people. That does get a bit tiresome, but I figure that's the idea behind it. It was supposed to be more attention-getting for the DR1 group that way, or maybe just a joke for her own amusement. (And for the player, assuming they've played the first game.)
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alcharagia posted:Hints: The good is the murders and crime-solving, the bad is the plot Except for the Komaeda plot*  (*may not apply to Another Episode, which I have not played)
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I like that there's a female protagonist now, but I'm incredibly disappointed that she's not also voiced by Ogata Megumi.
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I don't mind if the executions aren't gory or disturbing if they're interesting enough for theme and plot reasons. Like Peko and Nanami's executions, or even Alter Ego. Leon's is still the best though. The only ones that actually bug me are stuff like Mondo's execution, where it's really goofy even if you do get the reference. e: added spoiler bars for stuff past the first case, didn't realize we had some people still playing DR2 in here Bifauxnen fucked around with this message at 05:47 on Jan 3, 2017 |
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Instead of watching the part 3 anime, people should just watch the 2.5 OVA
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MegaZeroX posted:I don't remember disliking 2-4 particularly. Big same to the spoiler block. I like to think that Gundham putting on the big show of trying to conceal his crime was partly from his own love of drama, and partly to keep Monokuma appeased. Gundham wouldn't know how things went down with Sakura and her swapped-out note, but I think anyone in the killing game could intuitively guess that Monokuma would NOT be happy with his trials becoming useless due to the killer just outright confessing. Or it could also have been an attempt to convince the others that yes, he really was an evil villain, (or perhaps just amoral, playing by the laws of nature and survival, kill or be killed) so they did not need to mourn him. Leaving all this up to our own interpretations to weigh in our heads is really fun, I just love the ambiguity of Gundham's character so much. For case 1-1, I agree about being so frustratingly ahead of the mystery, but the end of the case and the execution bump it way up for me. Leon was the only one who became a culprit without fully understanding the rules of the trial (or that there would even be a trial!) so his reaction to finally being voted was unique, and no other execution in the game has ever felt that visceral.
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Wyvernil posted:It'll be interesting to see what they do with this "alternate scenario". Though I'm 50/50 on if they actually let Nagito be the first victim this time. On one hand, it'd be exactly the kind of surprise first death this series is known for. On the other hand, would they really go in that direction, given how popular that character is? I would be impressed and pleasantly surprised if they had the balls to follow through on that. Even though I absolutely loving adore Komaeda, his original story is a hard one to top. If he sticks around long enough to not be the first death shocker, but ends up as a more mid-game death instead, it'd just feel weak and disappointing imo. But then if he does stick around till the endgame, either his new story doesn't stack up in comparison to his old chapter 5 mindfuck, or it does... but that probably detracts from the chance to let other characters shine this time around. Especially the Ultimate Imposter! I'm assuming he'll be staying around longer even if Komaeda isn't the one who tags in as first victim. I'd really love to see him take a more central role in the story.
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JavaJesus posted:Honestly I think this is the best way to go. He was already the intended target of original case 1 before Ultimate Imposter sacrificed himself, so Komaeda actually dying there would be sort of anticlimactic, I think. And as Bifauxnen talked about earlier, if he survives till the end he either won't live up to his own legacy or he will and it'll overshadow everybody else. But dying in case 2 after revealing his true nature? That I think gives just the right mix of people being glad that he's not around to be insane anymore, but also realizing that they probably shouldn't be feeling glad that somebody's dead. So far that kind of dichotomy of feelings about Komaeda dying is about the only way I can see to thread the needle. Ooh, I kinda knee-jerk thought that having him die around chapter 2-4 would just be a letdown, but when you put it this way I really like the idea. He could even finally get his wish to directly help out his own murderer, to make things way more convoluted! And it'd make a nice rough parallel to DR1's chapter 2, when Togami hosed with the crime scene for kicks. But who'd take him up on it... maybe Souda.
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