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lotus circle
Dec 25, 2012

Jushure Iburu
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Sex_Ferguson posted:

I saw confirmation for Junko on her Facebook, but no confirmation for Fukawa. If she is Fukawa too that's gonna be weird.

Unless they're getting different VAs for Mukuro and Junko, in which case I welcome this decision wholeheartedly.
She confirmed voicing both Touko and Junko on twitter yesterday. An odd choice honestly, since both were voiced by different people originally, but I guess they want to conserve some of their budget.

I doubt they'll get separate VAs for Mukuro though. The same voice actress voiced both twins in the original and both roles are technically bit parts, as there's only a couple voiced lines for Mukuro before she dies and Junko is only in the second half of the last trial.

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lotus circle
Dec 25, 2012

Jushure Iburu
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SuccinctAndPunchy posted:

Yeah, don't if you're not keen on being spoiled. I feel like this is stuff someone who's never played the games would gloss right over and then forget about. But there's a few flashes of clips and a certain voice stab that are a bit spoilery that I think anyone with a bit of Dangan Ronpa knowledge would probably pick up on and then be slightly pissed about. If you're following the LP, it's probably not wise.

EDIT There is a bizarre absence of Mukuro from what I think is DR1's new "School Mode". What gives?
She is there, only in her disguise. Putting her in without it would be a huge spoiler for the end game.

lotus circle
Dec 25, 2012

Jushure Iburu
So don't worry
I think it's interesting so far how they've gone with voice actors who've had relatively niche parts so far. It has a level of unpredictability in it: you don't have anything to compare, so you'll either be pleasantly surprised or wondering what the hell they were thinking. My hopes is that they release a demo like they did for the first game in Japan, so we at least get a taste of some of the voice acting.

lotus circle
Dec 25, 2012

Jushure Iburu
So don't worry
Does anyone who ordered special editions from NIS before know if they ship before or on the day of release? It'd be a bummer to not get to play right on release day if they don't ship it out so you actually get the game on the 11th or 12th at the least.

lotus circle
Dec 25, 2012

Jushure Iburu
So don't worry
I think everyone is judging too fast based on a couple choice snippets. I'm not completely sold on some of these voices but I'll wait for the final product before deciding to cast it into flames. But I do sincerely hope NISA releases a translated demo before the game releases.

lotus circle
Dec 25, 2012

Jushure Iburu
So don't worry

Rena posted:

Just got my special edition, I preordered when it went up for what it's worth.

The packaging is nice, I will say don't look at the soundtrack if you don't know the executions, since the track names are still spoilers. I haven't had a chance to play yet, so no thoughts on the voice acting or translation, but this was a nice surprise.
I didn't get mine yet and I preordered when it went up as well. Could just be that it hasn't made it here yet though.

lotus circle
Dec 25, 2012

Jushure Iburu
So don't worry

Sex_Ferguson posted:

About all the info I've been sent is they received my Electronic Shipping Info, so I doubt it's making it here on time let alone before then like it seems some people are.
NIS gives you a tracking number but doesn't make tracking directly from USPS available, if their email is accurate. Which is a little bit silly but I could be misunderstanding it. Either way it looks like all the LEs have been shipped with priority 2-day mail, so it should come Tuesday/Wednesday barring unforeseen circumstances, like the weather.

lotus circle
Dec 25, 2012

Jushure Iburu
So don't worry

cool kids inc. posted:

Well you lose a bit of the pun with Monobear, and maybe they wanted to retain it.
That's the only explanation I can gather from this, but it makes so little sense.

First of all, the pun only works because the way Monokuma is pronounced in Japanese and what it means in Japanese ("kuma" meaning "bear"). In English that pronunciation is different because of the linguistic differences between Japanese and English as languages. So the joke that his name is pronounced the same as "monochrome" is lost on an English audience that 9 times out of 10 wouldn't know what "kuma" means.

Second, the pun is based on Monobear's appearance but anyone with a basic understanding of how visual symbolism works could tell you what the split in half coloring means for the character and the story. There's no need to keep the pun because the pun is self-explanatory with how the character is designed alone.

It was Spike's choice in the end and they produced the game so they can tell NISA what to do, but it seems like a very pointless thing to keep. What I think would have been better to keep was the honorifics and the way the students address one another, (i.e. by last name predominantly), because the game is still meant to be set in Japan. Now everyone addresses each other by first name and the game tries to make nicknames for Hagakure and Aoi for some reason. It's like they couldn't decide how much they wanted to localize so they went in half-way.

lotus circle
Dec 25, 2012

Jushure Iburu
So don't worry

Ineffiable posted:

And I like to think that the LE selling out fast helped convince to start on DR2 and if they do the LE again, and it sells out fast, it'll help convince them to take DR3 on when it comes out.
Not certain about DR3, but Another Episode is coming out soon for Vita too so that may also be a thing NISA can bring out of Japan.

lotus circle
Dec 25, 2012

Jushure Iburu
So don't worry
Papenbrook makes sense for Komaeda, seeing as Megumi Ogata did both Naegi and Komaeda's voices.

lotus circle
Dec 25, 2012

Jushure Iburu
So don't worry

Suspicious Dish posted:

Is there a release date for SDR2 yet? Last I heard it was "the fall". Have they bumped it up?

(Sorry for the dumb question, but I'm too afraid to Google anything about SDR2)
No official release date - only Fall 2014.

lotus circle
Dec 25, 2012

Jushure Iburu
So don't worry

ChaosArgate posted:

Dangan Ronpa seems infinitely more marketable to the Japanese than Zero Escape. :(
Well DR has more characters, all of whom are wacky eccentric teenagers, way more gameplay elements and the setting is a lot more outlandish. Not that Zero Escape isn't pretty outlandish itself, but it's not quite as exaggerated or emphasized as DR's setting. Even in the US you could argue DR"s fanbase is larger than Zero Escape's, despite both 999 and VLR coming outside of Japan long before DR1 did.

lotus circle
Dec 25, 2012

Jushure Iburu
So don't worry

Volt Catfish posted:

No, apparently that typo is actually in the Japanese version.
Huh. That's really bizarre, but it doesn't really excuse the translators from putting in an obvious error.

lotus circle
Dec 25, 2012

Jushure Iburu
So don't worry
I can see them doing LEs for DR2, considering the LE for DR1 sold out so there's clearly a demand.

Personally, while the LE wasn't spectacular, I'll get it because after taxes at a store or online the LE is just 4-5 dollars more expensive. For free shipping, a CD, a tiny art book and a neat looking box, I say it's worth the extra.

lotus circle
Dec 25, 2012

Jushure Iburu
So don't worry
I want to get it, but the more I consider it the more it isn't worth it and I say this as someone who bought the first limited edition. It's twenty dollars more than the regular price and the only thing that makes it different from the first box is a plastic coin and sunglasses, which is probably why the cost increased. And the CD is unlikely to have all the music from the game, much like the first box's cd only included a couple choice tracks and the execution themes.

Sucks because I would have liked to have matching boxes but it's like Instant Grat said: the first limited edition wasn't that amazing and this one costs 10 dollars more than the first LE for two cheap novelty items.

lotus circle
Dec 25, 2012

Jushure Iburu
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ImpAtom posted:

What you translated as "Dull Start" is instead "Down Five" in bloody text.
I'm really confused about this.

The whole point is that Hinata doesn't get the secret content because he thinks the game is over, but Nanami shows him what to do. "Down Five" isn't really much of a riddle, it's just telling you what to do.

lotus circle
Dec 25, 2012

Jushure Iburu
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Bloody Emissary posted:

You say that like I have the patience to wait for an official translation. :sigh:

Going by how long the first two took to get an English release, we're looking at...probably half a year at the absolute earliest?
It actually didn't take that long at all. The first game was announced a translation last summer (before the vita version of DR came out in Japan at that) and we got it by this spring and the second game was announced almost immediately after the first game came out and it'll be released in stores in two weeks time.

So going from the announcement of the first game, it's been only a little more than a year and we have both DR games out in English.

lotus circle
Dec 25, 2012

Jushure Iburu
So don't worry
On the subject of DR: Another Episode

Asahina's little brother also shows up and there's a magazine scan for the woman who shares a surname with Hagakure, but it's apparently not clear if she's his sister or mother.

Honestly I find this to be kind of lazy. Why have all these random siblings come out of nowhere? To give them more motivation to work with Naegi's sister? She was already shown as early as chapter 1 but I don't remember any mention of siblings from Hagakure, Asahina or Chihiro. I would really prefer characters that had little to no connection with the original cast, but oh well.

lotus circle
Dec 25, 2012

Jushure Iburu
So don't worry
I think you're overthinking it.

The woman has a completely different body build from Kirigiri in every way. The eyes are different, the hair color isn't the same (Kirigiri's hair is more purple-white while this woman is a pale pink) and this woman appears naturally taller. I'm also not seeing the gloves you're mentioning on her sprite.

Moreover if Naegi's sister and Fukawa are involved, I see no reason Kirigiri would decide to hide her identity from them. These "new character is actually an existing character" theories have never been true in any case, especially when solely based off how a character looks.

lotus circle
Dec 25, 2012

Jushure Iburu
So don't worry
Just noticed a pretty big error in the sound gallery: "Ms. Monomi's Practice Lesson" is titled "Mr. Monokuma's Practice Lesson." I was looking to buy the song but couldn't find it and here's why. Was this error also present in the Japanese version or did NISA goof, to anyone who might know?

Also while I'm here, question for Chapter 3. Not a super big spoiler or anything, but just in case I put it under tags. How do you activate the special concert event? I had the camera in my inventory but for some reason nothing happened.

lotus circle fucked around with this message at 04:44 on Sep 7, 2014

lotus circle
Dec 25, 2012

Jushure Iburu
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Bean posted:

Where is the monomono machine in SDR2?

Also, I seem to remember something about being able to go back and do free time events with people by replaying chapters. How does that work?
The monomachine is at the beach on the first island, but you can also use the 'Extras' button on the main menu to get there and to the vending machine.

As for your second question after you beat the game you'll unlock a special "island" mode, which is where you can go through everyone's free times.

lotus circle
Dec 25, 2012

Jushure Iburu
So don't worry

Rena posted:

The Monami mini game can go gently caress itself though, all waves but the last one have been boring and simple, but the boss waves have been tedious and difficult. Meaning the three or so tries it takes me for each Beast the first time, also mean I get to replay those snooze fest waves. I'm not touching it again unless I decide to be really masochistic and try to Platinum the game. Any advice on playing this dumb thing?
My suggestion is to keep replaying for presents, since you can get a lot of good upgrades through there. It can be a drag, but even if you lose you'll retain any presents you get in the game during that play. Also reserve your Usami transformation for when you really need it, especially when it comes to boss battles. I assume you're talking about the first level monobeast, since the second monobeast is significantly easier to fight. It can be tricky because it moves around a lot. I suggest jumping on it after it pounces on you, since there's a short recovery time it takes before trying again. Also avoid it when it's flashing red since it'll be ready to launch an attack after.

lotus circle
Dec 25, 2012

Jushure Iburu
So don't worry

Bloody Emissary posted:

Another DR:AE trailer was put up on Spike Chunsoft's youtube yesterday, though it's still unlisted. It seems expand upon the footage shown at the SCEJA Press Conference.


Oh yeah, how do you get Monomi? I've managed to get every pet but her so far.
Hope Level needs to be at around 9-10 before the baby goes under the cocoon and a Despair level of 0 to 5.


mateo360 posted:

CH. 4: I loved Mechamaru and I wish they kept him around longer just so we could keep finding new features that Monokuma put into him. Was it ever explained why there was a Statue of Sakura in Grape House? I can see the connection to the big muscled characters both being killed in Chapter 4 of both games but that is about it. Not much else to say, it was a pretty ok chapter.

CH. 5: Ok this chapter I very harsh criticism for. Chiaki should not have been executed under previously established rules. Monokuma has said in both games that in the case of an accomplice, only the mastermind need to be found and executed. Chiaki may have thrown the grenade that killed him, but it was all still part of Nagito's plan that he set up. And before anyone says it Yes I know it is Monokuma and he will do what he wants but the next chapter even points out that he has to follow the rules set by world. I still call bullshit... and I really liked Chiaki

Spoilers for the whole game in these comments.

RE Chapter 4: I'm assuming the Sakura statue was placed there by the Future Foundation in their designs. It's also significant to mention that the Chapter 4 in DR1 was where Sakura sacrificed herself to stop the fighting, while Gundam sacrificed himself so no one would starve to death.

RE Chapter 5: I feel like the way the game framed it, Chiaki wasn't an accomplice but the straight up killer. Komaeda did all that crazy poo poo, but he didn't collaborate with anyone on it and while he injured himself he only died from the poison - the spike dropped on him was part of his plan to obfuscate the crime. He relied solely on his luck that the traitor would throw the poisoned bottle and thus be the murderer on sheer coincidence. It's an incredibly cruel trial because Chiaki is only the murderer on a planned technicality on Komaeda's part.

lotus circle
Dec 25, 2012

Jushure Iburu
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ApplesandOranges posted:

I didn't like Chapter 4 for a bunch of reasons, and the motive is one of them. If Gunham really wanted to sacrifice himself, he wouldn't have made them go through the entire trial figuring out who it was. He went through the Final Dead Room, set up the complicated murder scene, all before confronting Nidai. For all his magnanimity in defeat, let's face it, he was planning on graduating. If Nidai had successfully defended himself, he would have likely immediately confessed to get everyone out.
I disagree.

Remember how Gundam reacts at the end and you'll see what the point was. Gundam always intended to tell the truth, but he didn't want to make it look like he was sacrificing himself. He wanted to be condemned for his actions because he's a contradictory person by nature. That's why when Komaeda says that there was no fight and says the hamsters did all the work, Gundam gets legitimately angry and more or less confesses right there to having done it. Nidai would have definitely confessed right away though because he's a more honest person with himself. Gundam is constantly hiding under this "evil dark wizard" persona that everyone around him can see through.

lotus circle
Dec 25, 2012

Jushure Iburu
So don't worry

Bean posted:

Chapter 3 drives me nuts because the drat murder is so needlessly complex. I still don't understand the camera thing, or the wad of gum or whatever was on the doors. Mikan probably could have gotten away with it if she quit leaving evidence all over the drat place. Also, it bugs me that her motive was, "Well, hell, it's a good day for murderin'!" Despair fever isn't a good enough excuse, Akane, Nagito and Mioda all had it and they didn't murder anyone.
Spoilers for the whole game

It got really complex because of Hiyoko suddenly coming in on the murder in progress. If we nix Hiyoko's death from everything Mikan's set-up would have only been making it look like Ibuki committed suicide and pretending to tape it happening. All the other things like making the concert look like a closed room and making them think Hiyoko was murdered not long after Hinata saw Ibuki hung was haphazard planning. It was messy because it was a last minute situation on Mikan's part.

Also the despair disease and what it caused is why Mikan snapped. It affected everyone differently. It made Akane a coward, Komaeda a liar, Ibuki obedient and it made Mikan remember all her memories and revert back to SHSL Despair. It was also a direct foreshadowing of the situation at hand and why the Future Foundation wanted to go to such extremes like killing all the remaining despair students. Imagine everyone being just as warped as Mikan was. It's pretty horrifying to think of.

lotus circle
Dec 25, 2012

Jushure Iburu
So don't worry
She's bending down to help Gundam look for his earring? The other stuff you mention is right, but I wouldn't call this fanservice.

Honestly I think the cast in DR2 is a lot better than DR1's in a number of ways. Hinata is a far better protagonist than Naegi, who is as bland as plain bread in comparison. In trials you'll see that the cast is far more engaged in what's going on, whereas DR1 was pretty much "Kirigiri solves everything and just explains to Naegi and makes him say it to feel special." The cast is also, on the whole, a lot more likable and less characters are thrown away for the sake of making them total jokes (Ishimaru and Fukawa are big offenders of this in DR1)

Also don't complete any free-time events because, uh, you'll probably get angry at that too I guess.

lotus circle
Dec 25, 2012

Jushure Iburu
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ImpAtom posted:

I'm not sure how you can say this when so much of DR2's cast ends up this way. Of the survivors, only Sonia and *maybe* Kuzuryuu are not just cheap jokes and so many of the other characters are basically one-note jokes. The mechanic guy in particular never does anything but "Miss Sonia~" and be useless. Hinata is a better protagonist though, that is true.
Most of my opinion is formed from free-time events. DR2's free time events are a lot better than DR1's in that you get more background information, whereas you only got that from a few characters in DR1. The free-time events really changed my opinion on a number of characters because you learn why they act the way they do. You learn how Souda is compensating for his insecurities, that Nidai became a coach because of a bad heart, how Mikan was abused so heavily in her life that she became a nurse because sick people would need to rely on her.

That said there are plenty of joke characters, though I think the number is a lot lower than DR1. Yamada and Hagakure were undoubtedly jokes the whole way through, Ishimaru and Fukawa had their entire personalities either removed or altered by the end of chapter 2 and most of the interesting characters that moved the plot along were gone by chapter 4. Both have their faults here and there but I enjoyed the second game cast more than the first.

lotus circle
Dec 25, 2012

Jushure Iburu
So don't worry
With spoilers for the whole game, my theory is that the Imposter got put into a Togami Avatar because that was the role they were impersonating before they got put into the pod. Junko did say Togami's entire conglomerate was destroyed in the first game and who better to help her destroy it than someone who can successfully pretend to be him?

lotus circle
Dec 25, 2012

Jushure Iburu
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Heroic Yoshimitsu posted:

Is there any place to legally get all this non-game DR stuff, or has none of it come over to the US?
If you're talking about merchandise, some sellers have stuff on ebay.

lotus circle
Dec 25, 2012

Jushure Iburu
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Volt Catfish posted:

This is a good point, how will the anime handle it? (Or maybe I'm wrong and they never actually greenlit an anime adaption of 2)
Yeah I don't think we should be expecting an anime for the second game. From what I heard the first season sold poorly, which isn't surprising because it was a pretty low budget and heavily watered down adaptation. The animation studio is going to be making cutscenes for DR:AE judging from magazine scans but that's about it.

lotus circle
Dec 25, 2012

Jushure Iburu
So don't worry

Violet_Sky posted:

I thought that Avril Lavigne was just random nonsense, but... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LiaYDPRedWQ
That video came out after DR2 was already released in Japan for PSP. It's just a bizarrely weird coincidence though an amusing one.

lotus circle
Dec 25, 2012

Jushure Iburu
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Bloody Emissary posted:

Warusou's translation for Chapter Four of DR:AE is up! :woop:

Spoilers for Chapter Four
Komaeda missed Naegi's defeat of Junko. He missed it. It was broadcast on national television and he missed it. Holy crap, I am laughing so hard.
I never thought I would genuinely feel bad for Komaeda, but drat do I feel bad for him. This is like missing your favorite team win a national series.

lotus circle
Dec 25, 2012

Jushure Iburu
So don't worry
No word, but still likely to happen in the future in my opinion. Doubt the iOS game will come over, it just seems like a simple game and not a ported remake (what comes to mind is the 999 port which is available in English.)

lotus circle
Dec 25, 2012

Jushure Iburu
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Alder posted:

Is it possible to "clear" Dangan Island? I've maxed out spending time w/Komaeda and got most of the skills from interacting with the other members and their Hope shards too. Am I just missing something?
You can clear it in the sense that you

-Got every ending with every person, both standard and island ends you get from going on trips.
-Built everything requested of you in a session.

Once you've done that there's not much else to do.

lotus circle
Dec 25, 2012

Jushure Iburu
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Raenir Salazar posted:

Gotta say though, still really not sure what Komaeda's motive was the whole game, or what it was after he learned everyone was Despair?
Spoilers for DR2 Case 5
Before he learned everyone was SHSL Despair, his motive was to foster a great hope in the face of despair. However what he defines as "hope" is "who's hope wins in the end?" He supported Teruteru because his hope was to stop Komaeda from murdering Togami, leave the island and see his mother again and that's why he acted the way he did. Similarly he was vicious against Mikan because what she did wasn't in the name of hope, but to cause despair. She had no greater motivation or wish in her heart that caused her to kill two people and that's what he can't forgive.

When he learns everyone is SHSL Despair, including himself, he realizes that the Future Foundation and the traitor must be working against despair and for hope. It's basically what the end of the trial lays out: he created a situation where the traitor would be blamed for his death on his luck and no one would figure it out. When everyone guesses wrong, the traitor goes free and the remaining SHSL Despair get killed and thus hope prevails.

Overall he's basically the opposite of Junko. She finds enjoyment in despair and will give people hope just to see them fall into despair. Komaeda wants to give people hope to see them succeed, but for that to happen a great despair must come first so that there's something to overcome.

lotus circle
Dec 25, 2012

Jushure Iburu
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Raenir Salazar posted:

So did he misunderstand the motives of Nanami and the Future Foundation and is that what Namami meant if things had been different he wouldn't have gone as far?
Yes. He thought the Future Foundation wanted to wipe out SHSL Despair, which is what Monobear had been saying since chapter 2, so that was his way of helping out what he sees as the symbol of hope.

lotus circle
Dec 25, 2012

Jushure Iburu
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Scrap Dragon posted:

The English release of DR1 features School Mode right?
Yes.

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lotus circle
Dec 25, 2012

Jushure Iburu
So don't worry
Kind of bizarre that they only brought back Papenbrook, who is easily among the weaker voice actors in the game dub, and replacing everyone else. Though really the majority of the game dub wasn't that stellar, so maybe this new cast can do better? Greg Ayres as Monokuma especially could prove to be a lot of fun.

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