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Brawnfire
Jul 13, 2004

Come play my CYOA!

Save your reality from the Constructors... then save all the rest of them.


"191. If a free man picks up now this woman, now that one, now in this country, then in that country, there shall be no punishment if they came together sexually willingly."

Does this mean if you gather up a harem from your travels/conquests, they're legally in the clear to get down with one another?

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cheetah7071
Oct 20, 2010

honk honk



College Slice

Okay I've got to think that this is less a legal code and more like, judicial precedent. Like, "here's a list of rulings we've made so we don't have to bother somebody important every time a man has sex with a cow". It feels really weird to have a bunch of laws which amount to "this act is explicitly not illegal" otherwise

Nessus
Dec 22, 2003

I still can't believe they cast Spock as me. Spock! Can you imagine?

Of course, he was missing a few things.



I'm imagining cowfuckers being the Assyrian equivalent of libertarians who always pop up about the age of consent.

Teriyaki Hairpiece
Dec 29, 2006

Ask me about my dream Frasier episode where Frasier and Bulldog oil their heads and then rub them together. It's definitely not a fetish of mine, I swear!

I've always found the Hittite laws so fun because they try really hard to be very specific but without the full context and looking at them thousands of years later it's the "that just raises further questions!" scene from Futurama.

evilweasel
Aug 24, 2002



Teriyaki Hairpiece posted:

I love to post this sacred law of the mighty Hittites every two years or so:

how loving often were animals trying to gently caress people that you needed these specific exemptions if the animal started it

FreudianSlippers
Apr 12, 2010

Shooting and Fucking
are the same thing!



"She came on to me, officer"

euphronius
Feb 18, 2009





Teriyaki Hairpiece posted:

I've always found the Hittite laws so fun because they try really hard to be very specific but without the full context and looking at them thousands of years later it's the "that just raises further questions!" scene from Futurama.

Had humans invented general legal concepts yet at that time

This sounds stupid but I think itís a good question

Teriyaki Hairpiece
Dec 29, 2006

Ask me about my dream Frasier episode where Frasier and Bulldog oil their heads and then rub them together. It's definitely not a fetish of mine, I swear!

You can even write your own Hittite fanfiction:

quote:

If a cow spring on a man in the mountain, it is no crime, if it is a pig he will pay seven and a half shekels of silver and not be allowed to feed the hummingbirds for a year.

euphronius
Feb 18, 2009





You probably have to look at justinians code to see the first generalized legal ideas

Maybe the East has then idk

Silver2195
Apr 4, 2012


euphronius posted:

Had humans invented general legal concepts yet at that time

This sounds stupid but I think itís a good question

They must have had them implicitly to some degree, because you can't have a workable legal system without them, but it seems fair to say that they probably didn't have a lot of systematic legal theory.

Squalid
Nov 4, 2008



evilweasel posted:

how loving often were animals trying to gently caress people that you needed these specific exemptions if the animal started it

horse breeders can get a horse to gently caress what's basically a big tube. I feel like this is an area where training can go a long way.

shovelbum
Oct 21, 2010



Fallen Rib

Teriyaki Hairpiece posted:

I've always found the Hittite laws so fun because they try really hard to be very specific but without the full context and looking at them thousands of years later it's the "that just raises further questions!" scene from Futurama.

I remember reading lots of them in a Hittite course and every day would be just sounding out these ridiculous laws word by laborious word. I'm sad that it was all in transliteration though, cuneiform is fascinating.

FAUXTON
Jun 2, 2005

daef





what was the significance of killing a serpent?

Deteriorata
Feb 6, 2005

The general increasing love of athletics is benefiting our young men, and making their lives better and more worth the living.

FAUXTON posted:

what was the significance of killing a serpent?

I'm guessing it's a representative of a god and killing it while naming a person is a form of curse.

Arglebargle III
Feb 21, 2006


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Athena is tired of your poo poo.

Nessus
Dec 22, 2003

I still can't believe they cast Spock as me. Spock! Can you imagine?

Of course, he was missing a few things.



Deteriorata posted:

I'm guessing it's a representative of a god and killing it while naming a person is a form of curse.
I parsed it as a like, well known ritual or something.

Fish of hemp
Apr 1, 2011


Were incestous relationships really that big problem or were those laws more about writing down the things that are frown upon?

Arglebargle III
Feb 21, 2006


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I had no idea Lydia under Croesus was so large. I thought it was just the plain west of the Anatolian plateau and east of Ionia.

Arglebargle III
Feb 21, 2006


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I did not know that Septimius Severus commissioned a map of Rome and posted it in public:

http://formaurbis.stanford.edu/



It broke.

Deptfordx
Dec 23, 2013




Catching up from a few pages back.

So do we have any idea how rare and costly a suit of this armour would be?

Would it be strictly for Kings and Nobles etc, or would it be the sort of thing the head of a reasonably prosperous household could afford to bring when summoned to war.

skasion
Feb 13, 2012

Why don't you perform zazen, facing a wall?


Deptfordx posted:

Catching up from a few pages back.

So do we have any idea how rare and costly a suit of this armour would be?

Would it be strictly for Kings and Nobles etc, or would it be the sort of thing the head of a reasonably prosperous household could afford to bring when summoned to war.

The most famous armor of this kind was found in a tomb at Dendra which was not in itself a major Mycenaean site. But it definitely would have belonged to an palatial elite.

Safety Biscuits
Oct 21, 2010



Arglebargle III posted:

I did not know that Septimius Severus commissioned a map of Rome and posted it in public:

http://formaurbis.stanford.edu/



It broke.

That's because it fell.

Fly Molo
May 7, 2007







shamelessly crossposting

Arglebargle III
Feb 21, 2006


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The British Museum has started a contemporary-style travel guide series on ancient cities: https://blog.britishmuseum.org/hist...1st-century-ad/

Crazy how we argue so much about modern traffic congestion when Rome just banned vehicle traffic inside the city 6 AM to 6 PM. Absolute legends.

Arglebargle III fucked around with this message at 17:14 on May 21, 2020

Alhazred
Feb 16, 2011






In ancient Greece the sculpture of Theagenes was convicted of murdering a man called Thasos by falling on him. The sculpture was exiled and tossed into the sea. It was later recovered because the oracle of Delphi said that the country would remain barren until the sculpture was restored.

Arglebargle III
Feb 21, 2006


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The modern state still prosecutes physical objects involved in crimes all the time!

Jeb Bush 2012
Apr 4, 2007

A mathematician, like a painter or poet, is a maker of patterns. If his patterns are more permanent than theirs, it is because they are made with ideas.

Arglebargle III posted:

The modern state still prosecutes physical objects involved in crimes all the time!

never forget https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unite...s_of_Shark_Fins

Hieronymous Alloy
Jan 30, 2009


Why! Why!! Why must you refuse to accept that Dr. Hieronymous Alloy's Genetically Enhanced Cream Corn Is Superior to the Leading Brand on the Market!?!



Morbid Hound

Arglebargle III posted:

The modern state still prosecutes physical objects involved in crimes all the time!

the modern law of mental illness and culpability for crime is not much improved over deodand, either

See https://www.wsj.com/articles/lawmak...les-11584999118

Kevin DuBrow
Apr 21, 2012



Whatís some good reading on sexuality in ancient civilizations? Iím interested particularly in the idea that some cultures considered women to have a stronger sexual drive than men.

Arglebargle III
Feb 21, 2006


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"What the gently caress, God?"

is actually the emotion the scene is intended to convey as Iphigenia is hauled off to be sacrificed to Artemis

Arglebargle III
Feb 21, 2006


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Little bit different from Orbis:

https://www.google.com/maps/d/viewe...ha0&usp=sharing

Grand Fromage
Jan 30, 2006

L-l-look at you bar-bartender, a-a pa-pathetic creature of meat and bone, un-underestimating my l-l-liver's ability to metab-meTABolize t-toxins. How can you p-poison a perfect, immortal alcohOLIC?






Everyone who had "mysterious ancient cubes" on your 2020 bingo card.



And here's one for like, three people here.

Communist Walrus
Aug 31, 2001

I don't mind taking charity,
From those that I despise.

Grand Fromage posted:



Everyone who had "mysterious ancient cubes" on your 2020 bingo card.

We have such sights to show you

SlothfulCobra
Mar 27, 2011

STOP BEING EVIL.


Is this one of them?

Arglebargle III
Feb 21, 2006


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Grand Fromage posted:



Everyone who had "mysterious ancient cubes" on your 2020 bingo card.



And here's one for like, three people here.

Noooo! My Sui Dynasty!

Ynglaur
Oct 9, 2013



Lead had a lot of sorcerous uses, so the guy is probably cursed well and good at this point.

Arglebargle III
Feb 21, 2006


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ThatBasqueGuy
Feb 14, 2013

someone introduce jojo to lazyb




Grand Fromage posted:



And here's one for like, three people here.

:chefskiss:

boy do we love some late antiquity nose-onto-sandpaper grinding into Korea.

Squalid
Nov 4, 2008



Ynglaur posted:

Lead had a lot of sorcerous uses, so the guy is probably cursed well and good at this point.

alternatively, some fisherman wanted to find out if cubes were a good shape for the weights on his net

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Arglebargle III
Feb 21, 2006


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4th century BC Celtic:



Gilt bronze and red enamel

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