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sebzilla
Mar 17, 2009

Kid's blasting everything in sight with that new-fangled musket.


This thread is incredible and I don't know why I only started reading it recently. I'm through about 60 pages but skipped ahead to post.

I work at Chedworth Roman Villa and have done for 7 years now. drat I'm old. It's the 150th anniversary of the discovery of the villa this year, which is all very exciting for us. And we're in between big building/excavation/conservation projects at the moment; we had one big cover building open for the first time in 2012 and we're in the planning/funding stage for the next one. All in all, it's a cool place to be, and I've learned a lot in my time there (not least from reading all the books in the shop).

If anyone has any questions specifically about Chedworth, I'll do my best to answer them. And if you're UK-based, you should definitely come and look round.

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sebzilla
Mar 17, 2009

Kid's blasting everything in sight with that new-fangled musket.


Sleep of Bronze posted:

Haha, that's something. You can't be much more than half an hour from me when I'm at home. Will pop in some time during vac. Or of a weekend maybe: should make like my friends and go back home to help dig out flood defences anyway. How's the rain treating the site?

We're surviving, not expecting a huge amount of visitors for the start of season this weekend which is a shame. Honestly just getting here in bad weather is more of an issue than taking care of the site. The road along the Coln valley (from either side) isn't far from flooding, but it should hold up. Never seen the water in the fields this high though. We had snow today for about an hour but it didn't settle, so access is still alright. We're high enough up the valley that the site itself isn't likely to flood, although a few years back one of the old buildings did spring a leak and we ended up with significant water in one of the baths for the first time in ~1600 years. Nothing that drastic so far this winter.

But yeah, everything that would be damaged much by rain is covered up. We've got the new building over the West Range (Dining Room mosaic, West Bath house, corridor mosaic, hypocausts) and the old Victorian sheds over the key bits of the North Wing do enough to keep the weather out, as much as you'd expect for buildings nearing their 150th birthday. The hypocaust pillae in the North Wing have their winter socks on, as usual. Everything else is sturdy enough to not worry about too much. External walls are all capped, and a lot of exciting stuff is safely underground (until we get more money to make permanent excavation feasible).

Cast_No_Shadow posted:

Thats cool as gently caress. I'd also ask, isn't it now underwater? Or is it just coastal?

Also when I looked at the map to find out where it was, I realised how much the national trust really doesn't give a gently caress north of Oxford :(. Either that or no one ever did anything significant up here.

There are some amazing properties in the North, but they are definitely more spread out than the South-West and South-East. I guess the region has always been less densely populated, so it sort of makes sense. I was up at Quarry Bank in Cheshire recently for some training, and it's probably now in my top 5 favourite Trust places I've been to. The standard "old country house" thing doesn't really do it for me, so anything the Trust does that's a bit different is a winner for me. Chedworth is at least 1000 years older than any other stately home we look after, so it definitely fits the bill.

e: I've just read a question ages back about clothing in cold weather. Check out this dude:



He's the figure of Winter from our "Four Seasons" Dining Room mosaic, holding a hare and a bare branch. He's also wearing a nifty hooded cloak, or birrus britannicus. Mmm, snug!

sebzilla fucked around with this message at 22:20 on Feb 13, 2014

sebzilla
Mar 17, 2009

Kid's blasting everything in sight with that new-fangled musket.


Imapanda posted:

I'm still waiting for some republican Rome book reccomendations since the previous 2 suggestions were actually about the empire/verylate republic. :colbert:

I'm trying to remember what I've got in my shop, and off the top of my head most of it tends to be Empire stuff. Patricia Southern has one that's decent enough, from memory http://www.amazon.com/ANCIENT-ROME-VOL-REPUBLIC-753BC-30BC/dp/1445604272

I'll have a look tomorrow when I'm in and try to come up with more of a list. Been on holiday for a week and the shelves are fuzzy in my mind.

sebzilla
Mar 17, 2009

Kid's blasting everything in sight with that new-fangled musket.


What about castrating boys to preserve their singing voices?

sebzilla
Mar 17, 2009

Kid's blasting everything in sight with that new-fangled musket.


Hogge Wild posted:

Greeks having asswiping stones and Americans using corn cobs was new to me.

Where do the three seashells fit into all this?

sebzilla
Mar 17, 2009

Kid's blasting everything in sight with that new-fangled musket.


JaucheCharly posted:

How would a roman upperclass man train the mind? Debate? Trigonometry?

Rap battles in Greek

sebzilla
Mar 17, 2009

Kid's blasting everything in sight with that new-fangled musket.


Oberleutnant posted:

last winter we had an (admittedly minor) fire break out during our biannual disaster planning meeting and the castle management and trustees are still dismissive of the costs of disaster management and the risks of fire or flood to begin with.

Be honest, did you set the fire in an attempt to make them see sense? If so, it's clear next time you need to go bigger.

sebzilla
Mar 17, 2009

Kid's blasting everything in sight with that new-fangled musket.


Benny the Snake posted:

What would an ancient olympian wear to train in before the games? Say he was training for a footrace.

Jorts

sebzilla
Mar 17, 2009

Kid's blasting everything in sight with that new-fangled musket.


Bardo Museum in Tunis has the best mosaics I've ever seen. Been in the news a bit lately, for all the wrong reasons. Actually, any word on damage to the museum? Obviously it pales into insignificance compared to the loss of life, but still, it would be a huge shame.

sebzilla
Mar 17, 2009

Kid's blasting everything in sight with that new-fangled musket.


Oh also come to Chedworth, it's pretty cool and you can ask me about stairs or whatever. Also not too far from Bath, Stonehenge, Avebury and lots of other neat stuff.

sebzilla
Mar 17, 2009

Kid's blasting everything in sight with that new-fangled musket.


JaucheCharly posted:

Imagine somebody printed out your browser history.

"Well, it seems like people in the 21st century were just as obsessed by porn and toilet humour as people in every other human era. Futhermore *faaaaaart*" - Professor Zargax's lecture series on Human History and poop jokes, Oxford University, 6015

sebzilla
Mar 17, 2009

Kid's blasting everything in sight with that new-fangled musket.


FreudianSlippers posted:

Crash Course History is the far superior YouTube history thingamajig.

Agreed, Crash Course owns. Unless you're the Mongols.

sebzilla
Mar 17, 2009

Kid's blasting everything in sight with that new-fangled musket.


Sulla-Marius 88 posted:

Lastly, has anybody got any good articles or books on mining in the ancient world? I know the silver mines in Spain were absolutely brutal but I'd love to read more on the general metallurgical process for iron as well - mining (logistics and the physical extraction), transport, refinement, etc etc.

http://www.amazon.co.uk/The-Roman-Iron-Industry-Britain/dp/0752468650

sebzilla
Mar 17, 2009

Kid's blasting everything in sight with that new-fangled musket.


I'm planning on sprucing up the shop I run at a well-known Roman Villa, and would quite like a Latin phrase (and translation) somehow related to it to paint onto a small section of wall. Something to do with spending money, or charitable giving, or similar.

"Pedicabo ego vos et irrumabo" is probably not a suitable candidate, even as a threat to non-buying customers. Any suggestions would be gratefully received, though!

sebzilla
Mar 17, 2009

Kid's blasting everything in sight with that new-fangled musket.


Blessed are the cheesemakers.

sebzilla
Mar 17, 2009

Kid's blasting everything in sight with that new-fangled musket.


All the human sacrifice paid off.

sebzilla
Mar 17, 2009

Kid's blasting everything in sight with that new-fangled musket.


Arglebargle III posted:

You know every single one of your ancestors had sex? Gross right?

Pretty sure some of my ancestors reproduced asexually bro.

sebzilla
Mar 17, 2009

Kid's blasting everything in sight with that new-fangled musket.


Tomn posted:

Basileus Basil Brutally Buggers Bummed Bulgars By Boosting Burgeoning (But Bloated) Byzantine Bureaucracy.

Blimey

sebzilla
Mar 17, 2009

Kid's blasting everything in sight with that new-fangled musket.


A Strange Aeon posted:

Is there a single volume of the Norse myths that covers all the stories? Is that what the poetic Edda is? Or is that something else?

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Myths-Norsemen-Puffin-Classics-Lancelyn/dp/0140367381

For kids, but it's the book that got me hooked on the Vikings.

sebzilla
Mar 17, 2009

Kid's blasting everything in sight with that new-fangled musket.


Obviously it's Quinctillius Varus having fled the continent in shame after Teutoburg. "give me back my legions" said Augustus, "nah bro I'm off to discover America, hope I don't drop my sword!"

A true fact that happened. The evidence is right there!

sebzilla
Mar 17, 2009

Kid's blasting everything in sight with that new-fangled musket.


P-Mack posted:

9,700 BC, once you correct for the phantom time hypothesis.

Phantom time is great, one of my favourite conspiracy theories for sure.

sebzilla
Mar 17, 2009

Kid's blasting everything in sight with that new-fangled musket.


There was one wacky guy who reckoned that kids would learn better if they had a love of the subject instilled in them by their tutors, rather than just being beaten until they got it right. He taught the emperor's kids I think but it didn't really catch on.

sebzilla
Mar 17, 2009

Kid's blasting everything in sight with that new-fangled musket.


Phobophilia posted:

Why was the genocide performed by English settlers successful, and that performed by Spanish ones not?

Lack of a good Protestant work ethic, presumably.

sebzilla
Mar 17, 2009

Kid's blasting everything in sight with that new-fangled musket.


James Purefoy's Antony is phenomenal and he also hangs dong a couple of times so basically he's the definitive version for me.

sebzilla
Mar 17, 2009

Kid's blasting everything in sight with that new-fangled musket.


What domestic item did Þórir explode and claim that it was totally a giant in disguise you guys stop complaining I break all your stuff.

sebzilla
Mar 17, 2009

Kid's blasting everything in sight with that new-fangled musket.


Patter Song posted:

I remember a few years ago this thread did a discussion about what early inventions could actually benefit the Romans with the infrastructure they had, and the list was surprisingly small. My favorite bit was someone coming up with bicycles, everyone thinking that was brilliant and would be a huge benefit for the Romans while easy to incorporate into their society...and then someone mentioned that the tires would need rubber. Back to the drawing board.

The compass and other navigational advances?

Printing press?

Lenses/optics?

A less lovely system of numerals?

Stirrups?

Basically anything involving electricity?

Potatoes?

sebzilla
Mar 17, 2009

Kid's blasting everything in sight with that new-fangled musket.


Magnets.

sebzilla
Mar 17, 2009

Kid's blasting everything in sight with that new-fangled musket.


Roman printing press would mean a greater likelihood of a copy of Lives of Famous Whores surviving so it's the best choice.

sebzilla
Mar 17, 2009

Kid's blasting everything in sight with that new-fangled musket.


Teriyaki Hairpiece posted:

I still have never gotten a specific answer from any thread regulars about what exact year they stop considering the Roman Empire the Roman Empire, despite the fact that even with this modern de-emphasis on dates, people, and places, everyone is ready to trot out 476 like it means anything.

1453

Or maybe 1922

sebzilla
Mar 17, 2009

Kid's blasting everything in sight with that new-fangled musket.


It would be no more or less useful or meaningful than the shift from BC/AD to BCE/CE that happened on the sly sometime a while back. Awkward for a while, eventually it'd just be the new norm. Meh.

And as Slothful Cobra said, not exactly the most accurate start point (even less so than old JC's birthday)

sebzilla
Mar 17, 2009

Kid's blasting everything in sight with that new-fangled musket.


WoodrowSkillson posted:

the BCE stuff has not even truly caught on for most people, and shifting the day you were born, along with all of the pop culture references to things like "the 50s" would create a ton more resistance

The 50s would still be the 50s, just the 11950s instead of the 1950s. And birthdays etc would also still be the same, except with an extra digit. Really the whole thing is pretty meaningless.

sebzilla
Mar 17, 2009

Kid's blasting everything in sight with that new-fangled musket.


I'm ok with all of that as long as we cut out the ~300 years of *phantom time* :tinfoil: :ghost:

sebzilla
Mar 17, 2009

Kid's blasting everything in sight with that new-fangled musket.


WoodrowSkillson posted:

literally every tunic had short sleeves, making them longer was not wizardry.

This guy disagrees

sebzilla
Mar 17, 2009

Kid's blasting everything in sight with that new-fangled musket.


MisterDuck posted:

Didn't someone in this thread way back make a bunch of Roman dishes with pictures and such as well as how they tasted?

I have a Roman Cookery book but have never cooked anything from it. If I ever get around to I'll definitely be sharing pictures and opinions.

sebzilla
Mar 17, 2009

Kid's blasting everything in sight with that new-fangled musket.


Grevling posted:

It's KYKLOPS not saiclops ugh

Si-slops

sebzilla
Mar 17, 2009

Kid's blasting everything in sight with that new-fangled musket.


They also prevent things like susanalbumparty

sebzilla
Mar 17, 2009

Kid's blasting everything in sight with that new-fangled musket.


SlothfulCobra posted:

All these depictions of Charlemagne being from after he's dead is just more and more evidence for the phantom time hypothesis. :tinfoil:

The best conspiracy theory. :allears:

sebzilla
Mar 17, 2009

Kid's blasting everything in sight with that new-fangled musket.


Sid Meier is the sole arbiter on what does and does not constitute a civilization.

Vikings? Definitely. Sioux? Sure. Australian? Why not!

Harappans, Olmecs, Minoans? gently caress off.

sebzilla
Mar 17, 2009

Kid's blasting everything in sight with that new-fangled musket.


They're good at football and enjoy using Xs and Zs a lot.

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sebzilla
Mar 17, 2009

Kid's blasting everything in sight with that new-fangled musket.


Groda posted:

Are there any examples of pretenders to the throne successfully seizing and holding power in European history?

There was this thing that went down in 1066 but you might not have heard of it.

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