New around here? Register your SA Forums Account here!

You can: log in, read the tech support FAQ, or request your lost password. This dumb message (and those ads) will appear on every screen until you register! Get rid of this crap by registering your own SA Forums Account and joining roughly 150,000 Goons, for the one-time price of $10! We charge money because it costs us money per month for bills alone, and since we don't believe in shady internet advertising, we try to make the money back through forum registrations.
 
  • Post
  • Reply
Asterite34
May 19, 2009



Lord Lambeth posted:

Vespasian is the probably in the upper tier of Roman Emperors, if there is such a tier list. His last words are known to be "An emperor ought to die standing" then promptly died after a severe case of diarrhoea.

I WAS going to correct you and say he was the "drat, I fear I am becoming a god" guy, but upon further research it turns out that while he DID allegedly make that joke near the end of his life, they weren't his LAST last words. Man, dude got two really good pithy sayings right at the end, what a king

Adbot
ADBOT LOVES YOU

Asterite34
May 19, 2009



Yahweh is basically the theological version of John Carpenter's The Thing

Asterite34
May 19, 2009



euphronius posted:

I was looking up vegetation mats and learned

But look how cute they are

Man, the Bible really took great pains to leave out the details that Noah just kinda threw together the Ark in a hungover afternoon out of whatever buoyant yard waste he had lying around at the time. God must have been so embarrassed.

Asterite34
May 19, 2009



Elissimpark posted:

*Noah leans over fence*
"Hey Steve! Any chance I can borrow your ark this weekend?"

"You're gonna bring it back when you're done with it, right? Was thinking of taking the family on a boating trip once this bad weather cleared up."

"Eh....yyyyyyyeah, sure thing buddy."

Asterite34
May 19, 2009



Judgy Fucker posted:

Reading about the different sources for Genesis for the first time blew me away because for all the times I had read it as a child, I had not noticed there were in fact two creation stories. There's the one everyone knows and can recite, and then a couple chapters in God just creates the world again. Egregious editorial oversight or method to the madness?

Well it's important to remember that the religious traditions of Judaism are vastly older than the actual Old Testament, that only got compiled and written down as a singular canonical thing between 530-330 BCE. Lots of disparate groups and communities had slightly divergent oral traditions and theologies that nonetheless all considered themselves equally "true" and equally Jewish, so when the Persians ended the Babylonian Exile and it came down to actually chronicling it all into one unified Jewish historical/religious text the redactors figured that leaving something out would just unnecessarily piss someone off, so better safe than sorry. The inerrant true Word of God has got to be in there somewhere if you just include everything that MIGHT be relevant, right? This is where you get a lot of the doublets, where basically the same story beats happen twice in slightly different ways. Two different groups had slightly different versions, and the editors decided to split the difference and include them both to avoid a schism.

Asterite34 fucked around with this message at 01:39 on Sep 18, 2025

Asterite34
May 19, 2009



One of the issues of history is that it's a bit like classic rock. People sometimes think music used to be better and more soulful than the corpo dreck we get now, but mostly it's just that all the old corpo dreck got forgotten by posterity and the passage of time has distilled out only the stuff worth remembering that everyone now in hindsight acknowledges was actually really good all along.

All the seers and prophets who claimed their system had perfect infallibly accurate predictions and then kept guessing wrong over and over were seen as laughingstocks and charlatans, and the ones who get remembered are the guys whose predictions happened to be right, and so the belief in various methods of prophecy continued and were generally accepted as valid authorities, whether it was True Believers happening to guess right or some more canny practicioners who fudged their numbers to give predictions with a bit more oomph than sheep livers would suggest by themselves.

Adbot
ADBOT LOVES YOU

Asterite34
May 19, 2009



two fish posted:

Who is the earliest identifiable deity?

I think the earliest one we can put a definite name to is Inanna. Much older than that you get iconography of like, a dude with a lion's head or figurines of ladies that MIGHT be some fertility idol, but we can't be sure if those were actually worshipped as gods or not. I guess there's proto-indo-european gods like Diywus Phater and such, but those are based on language recontruction and we only have guesswork about those guys.

  • 1
  • 2
  • 3
  • 4
  • 5
  • Post
  • Reply