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James Woods
Jul 15, 2003
So I'm re watching Pulp Fiction and finally figured out how Tarantino managed a shot I've always loved. It's at about 57 minutes when Vince is driving an ODing Mia to the dealer Lance's house. Lance is standing at his front door looking out as he hears tires screeching outside. Vince"s Malibu comes into frame from the right and leaves the left side of the frame and we hear it hit the house. The camera then follows Lance outside and pans left to show Vincent dragging Mia out of the car which is now smashed into the side of the house. The two proceed to argue as the car smokes behind them.

This is all one contiguous shot and it's amazing. I always wondered how they were able to set up the crash scene so quickly. It should be noted that the car in question is Tarantino"s personal automobile (which has its own crazy story) and it's obvious that they set up the car for the scene with care to not permanently damage it. Watching a new HD copy of the movie on a huge TV I finally realized the solution and now feel stupid. If you look at the car tracks left in the freshly cut grass you'll notice that they lead about one car with to the right of the crashed car which has no tracks behind it. They must have had a second car go at speed into a narrow driveway between the houses and near two of the main actors. A risky stunt for a movie with a shooting budget of $3m. Any other director would have just made a cut between the car driving up and Lance seeing the damage but Tarantino has a brilliant way of finding solutions to problems that for most directors don't exist.

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Jestery
Aug 2, 2016

Eat a dick unicycle boy!
I'm having to analyse Jurassic Park for work and there is just SO MUCH in that film

The thing I noticed in my last viewing is that everyone has a watch that matches them

Except Malcom, the chaostician, who has not watch

Humphreys
Jan 26, 2013

We conceived a way to use my mother as a porn mule


Jestery posted:

I'm having to analyse Jurassic Park for work and there is just SO MUCH in that film

The thing I noticed in my last viewing is that everyone has a watch that matches them

Except Malcom, the chaostician, who has not watch

You getting back into VFX?

Snowglobe of Doom
Mar 30, 2012

sucks to be right
Here's a crazy blink-and-you'll-miss-it detail from JP: remember the scene where Hammond is eating the melting icecream and talking about his flea circus? There's a big b&w dino mural on the wall behind him;



Someone eventually noticed that the mural was based on Picasso's Guernica:

packetmantis
Feb 26, 2013
Mods pls change my name to Dinosaur Guernica

Snowglobe of Doom
Mar 30, 2012

sucks to be right
Ha, someone on Twitter managed to track down most of the original dino art swiped for that mural

https://twitter.com/mohammadkadhim1/status/1240975661633802247

Jestery
Aug 2, 2016

Eat a dick unicycle boy!

Humphreys posted:

You getting back into VFX?

High school sign language interpreter in an English class making flash card resources

Ugly In The Morning
Jul 1, 2010
Pillbug

James Woods posted:

So I'm re watching Pulp Fiction and finally figured out how Tarantino managed a shot I've always loved. It's at about 57 minutes when Vince is driving an ODing Mia to the dealer Lance's house. Lance is standing at his front door looking out as he hears tires screeching outside. Vince"s Malibu comes into frame from the right and leaves the left side of the frame and we hear it hit the house. The camera then follows Lance outside and pans left to show Vincent dragging Mia out of the car which is now smashed into the side of the house. The two proceed to argue as the car smokes behind them.

This is all one contiguous shot and it's amazing. I always wondered how they were able to set up the crash scene so quickly. It should be noted that the car in question is Tarantino"s personal automobile (which has its own crazy story) and it's obvious that they set up the car for the scene with care to not permanently damage it. Watching a new HD copy of the movie on a huge TV I finally realized the solution and now feel stupid. If you look at the car tracks left in the freshly cut grass you'll notice that they lead about one car with to the right of the crashed car which has no tracks behind it. They must have had a second car go at speed into a narrow driveway between the houses and near two of the main actors. A risky stunt for a movie with a shooting budget of $3m. Any other director would have just made a cut between the car driving up and Lance seeing the damage but Tarantino has a brilliant way of finding solutions to problems that for most directors don't exist.

Pulp Fiction is one of those movies where when I haven’t seen it in a while I start thinking there’s no way it’s actually as good as its reputation and how I remember it, then I watch it again and I’m like “oh right, this is easily one of the best movies ever made”.

Byzantine
Sep 1, 2007

Snowglobe of Doom posted:

Here's a crazy blink-and-you'll-miss-it detail from JP: remember the scene where Hammond is eating the melting icecream and talking about his flea circus? There's a big b&w dino mural on the wall behind him;



Someone eventually noticed that the mural was based on Picasso's Guernica:



Holy poo poo.

freeedr
Feb 21, 2005

Edgar Allen Ho
Apr 3, 2017

by sebmojo
idk if it counts but holy poo poo one of the geek kids from Freaks and Geeks is also a nazi scalpin' Inglorious Basterd

Baron von Eevl
Jan 24, 2005

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Samm Levine acted in Basterds with Til Schweiger, who acted in SLC Punk with Jason Segel, who acted in Freaks and Geeks with Samm Levine.

Epic Doctor Fetus
Jul 23, 2003

Edgar Allen Ho posted:

idk if it counts but holy poo poo one of the geek kids from Freaks and Geeks is also a nazi scalpin' Inglorious Basterd

If I remember correctly, he has dual roles, also playing the artist painting the Hitler portrait.

muscles like this!
Jan 17, 2005


You'd have to be completely not paying attention to the movie to be confused by it but I did like how the climax of Pig doesn't actually explain the main characters' plan or why it worked.

Memento
Aug 25, 2009


Bleak Gremlin

Jestery posted:

I'm having to analyse Jurassic Park for work and there is just SO MUCH in that film

The thing I noticed in my last viewing is that everyone has a watch that matches them

Except Malcom, the chaostician, who has not watch

I saw this earlier

Schneider Inside Her
Aug 6, 2009

Please bitches. If nothing else I am a gentleman

Jestery posted:

I'm having to analyse Jurassic Park for work and there is just SO MUCH in that film

The thing I noticed in my last viewing is that everyone has a watch that matches them

Except Malcom, the chaostician, who has not watch

I'm in my final year of my teaching degree and I'm teaching it to the kids alongside the short story "A Sound Of Thunder" by Ray Bradbury. It's a hell of a film for teaching. It's a popular well known film so it blows kids' minds that it is so detailed. It also means you can easily extend it out based on the ability of the class

Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017

Exploration is ill-advised.
It's always the big magnum opus movies you see these with because you can tell the director had final say in everything from the editing to the prop design. You see so many blockbusters nowadays that are obviously assembled from prefab parts and/or gutted on the cutting room floor, and hosed around by executives often for no more reason than they want to have had their say on something.

deoju
Jul 11, 2004

All the pieces matter.
Nap Ghost
Jurassic Park is a flawless movie imo. There's not a single shot that's wasted, they all directly feed the story or action, or contain character development. It accomplishes everything it tried to do with no loose ends or frayed edges. The symbolism doesn't hit you over the head, but is accessible. Its not like the last half our of 2001, where Kubrick intended to confuse most people. It is a great film to teach with.

Jestery
Aug 2, 2016

Eat a dick unicycle boy!
There's a great bit where Sam Niel pokes himself with the raptor claw making a real ape "ooh-ahh" noise

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Oct 30, 2009

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deoju posted:

Jurassic Park is a flawless movie imo. There's not a single shot that's wasted, they all directly feed the story or action, or contain character development. It accomplishes everything it tried to do with no loose ends or frayed edges. The symbolism doesn't hit you over the head, but is accessible. Its not like the last half our of 2001, where Kubrick intended to confuse most people. It is a great film to teach with.

Agreed but for Lost World

Samovar
Jun 4, 2011

I'm 😤 not a 🦸🏻‍♂️hero...🧜🏻



deoju posted:

Jurassic Park is a flawless movie imo. There's not a single shot that's wasted, they all directly feed the story or action, or contain character development. It accomplishes everything it tried to do with no loose ends or frayed edges. The symbolism doesn't hit you over the head, but is accessible. Its not like the last half our of 2001, where Kubrick intended to confuse most people. It is a great film to teach with.

Something I didn't realize until like last week. When the system gets rebooted by the kid, and you hear the group getting attacked over the phone, you hear the shotgun going off a couple of times, then you see a shot of the shotgun having been abandoned. In that shot, you can see WHY it was dropped. In the ejector, there's a shell half-way in. Grant must have short-shucked the pump, not realized it, and dropped it thinking it was jammed.

Android Apocalypse
Apr 28, 2009

The future is
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and you are
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Illegal Hen

Samovar posted:

Something I didn't realize until like last week. When the system gets rebooted by the kid, and you hear the group getting attacked over the phone, you hear the shotgun going off a couple of times, then you see a shot of the shotgun having been abandoned. In that shot, you can see WHY it was dropped. In the ejector, there's a shell half-way in. Grant must have short-shucked the pump, not realized it, and dropped it thinking it was jammed.

Funny enough that shotgun that Grant was using was a Franchi SPAS-12, which could be set to either pump-action or semi-auto. If it was set to semi-auto it wouldn't have that issue of short-stroking.

CainFortea
Oct 15, 2004


It could still have stovepiped and then get dropped in a panic instead of giving it remedial action.

Pope Corky the IX
Dec 18, 2006

What are you looking at?
I'm finding this erotic and I don't know how to feel about that.

Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017

Exploration is ill-advised.
I did hear that Franchis are notoriously difficult to operate.

CainFortea
Oct 15, 2004


Ghost Leviathan posted:

I did hear that Franchis are notoriously difficult to operate.

They always got "pfft" at the end of a magazine.

Android Apocalypse
Apr 28, 2009

The future is
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Illegal Hen
The one time I got to try out a SPAS-12 the gas system was being incredibly finicky & didn't like running semi-auto.

Schneider Inside Her
Aug 6, 2009

Please bitches. If nothing else I am a gentleman
It tracks with how subject specific knowledge is represented in the film. Like, Ian Malcolm correctly predicts how dangerous what InGen is doing is, but completely blows it when he uses the flare to distract the T-Rex, whereas when Grant uses the flare it works. Muldoon is outsmarted by the velociraptors because while he is an accomplished hunter, he has no understanding of how velociraptors hunt. So when Grant uses a shotgun he fails at that because he likely has zero real firearms experience. Nedry is able to hack the security system but can't find his way out of the park in the rain.

There's also that really sweet bit where they all meet the grandkids for the first time, and Tim is dressed identically to his idol, Alan Grant.

Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017

Exploration is ill-advised.
Mostly came to mind given a probably accidental joke in the Mortal Kombat games; one of Baraka's intro dialogues against Kano has him complain the guns that Kano sold him are defective, and some of them in the scene in question are Franchi SPAS-12s, given to otherworld warriors who clearly have little to no familiarity with firearms.


Schneider Inside Her posted:

It tracks with how subject specific knowledge is represented in the film. Like, Ian Malcolm correctly predicts how dangerous what InGen is doing is, but completely blows it when he uses the flare to distract the T-Rex, whereas when Grant uses the flare it works. Muldoon is outsmarted by the velociraptors because while he is an accomplished hunter, he has no understanding of how velociraptors hunt. So when Grant uses a shotgun he fails at that because he likely has zero real firearms experience. Nedry is able to hack the security system but can't find his way out of the park in the rain.

There's also that really sweet bit where they all meet the grandkids for the first time, and Tim is dressed identically to his idol, Alan Grant.

It always is fun when characters are shown to be very skilled, and then totally blindsided when out of their element. Dune comes to mind, which almost makes a running gag of feudal future overspecialisation ending up running into a wall.

Basebf555
Feb 29, 2008

The greatest sensual pleasure there is is to know the desires of another!

Fun Shoe
Just recently I read about a new thing in Jurassic Park I hadn't noticed in like a hundred viewings over the years. When Tim runs into the walk-in freezer to escape the raptor, it's open because Hammond had gone in there to get ice cream due to the power outage. The ice cream would've melted to why let it go to waste? So he forgets to close the door and then when the power comes back on the floor has water on it that refreezes and that saves Tim.

Cat Hatter
Oct 24, 2006

Hatters gonna hat.
I've heard that most of the time in movies the SPAS-12 is operated manually because they don't want to bother converting them to cycle with blanks. Besides, pumping is cooler looking anyway.

BiggerBoat
Sep 26, 2007

Don't you tell me my business again.

Pope Corky the IX posted:

I'm finding this erotic and I don't know how to feel about that.

"Horny" I think.

Also, Avatar/Post combo for the win.

Schneider Inside Her
Aug 6, 2009

Please bitches. If nothing else I am a gentleman

Basebf555 posted:

Just recently I read about a new thing in Jurassic Park I hadn't noticed in like a hundred viewings over the years. When Tim runs into the walk-in freezer to escape the raptor, it's open because Hammond had gone in there to get ice cream due to the power outage. The ice cream would've melted to why let it go to waste? So he forgets to close the door and then when the power comes back on the floor has water on it that refreezes and that saves Tim.

It's so crazy because it is perfectly in character for Hammond to do something like that, as he is shown to be impulsive and careless throughout the film. Then it is double crazy because his careless action actually saving Tim is a small action having a large unintended consequence which is the whole theme of Jurassic Park. The film is simply too good.

Yngwie Mangosteen
Aug 23, 2007
A small detail my wife noticed when we were watching Jurassic Park the other week was that in the helicopter when they're going down Dr. Grant (the stand in for the tried and true methods and non-tech themes) ends up with two female ends of a seatbelt. And he finds a way to make it work.

Imagined
Feb 2, 2007

Captain Monkey posted:

A small detail my wife noticed when we were watching Jurassic Park the other week was that in the helicopter when they're going down Dr. Grant (the stand in for the tried and true methods and non-tech themes) ends up with two female ends of a seatbelt. And he finds a way to make it work.

Are you suggesting two female seatbelts would... mate?

Rupert Buttermilk
Apr 15, 2007

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Schneider Inside Her posted:


There's also that really sweet bit where they all meet the grandkids for the first time, and Tim is dressed identically to his idol, Alan Grant.

This I never noticed, and I've seen it countless times. Nice catch.

Sunswipe
Feb 5, 2016

by Fluffdaddy

Cat Hatter posted:

I've heard that most of the time in movies the SPAS-12 is operated manually because they don't want to bother converting them to cycle with blanks. Besides, pumping is cooler looking anyway.

It's why lower budget and older films use pump action shotguns and revolvers so much. No loving around modifying an action that was set up for live ammunition to work with blanks. Now there's manufacturers making replicas and near-replicas of real firearms but made only for blanks. You'll seem them a lot in the sort of straight-to-dvd, shot-in-Eastern-Europe movies that get made on the cheap.

Cat Hatter
Oct 24, 2006

Hatters gonna hat.

Sunswipe posted:

It's why lower budget and older films use pump action shotguns and revolvers so much. No loving around modifying an action that was set up for live ammunition to work with blanks. Now there's manufacturers making replicas and near-replicas of real firearms but made only for blanks. You'll seem them a lot in the sort of straight-to-dvd, shot-in-Eastern-Europe movies that get made on the cheap.

My favorite anecdote along these lines is about Robert Rodriguez not having any money to spend on El Mariachi so his non-converted machine guns would only fire once. He would double the footage so you'd see two muzzle flashes and then he'd cut to a guy covered in squibs going off while playing machine gun sound effects.

deoju
Jul 11, 2004

All the pieces matter.
Nap Ghost

Captain Monkey posted:

A small detail my wife noticed when we were watching Jurassic Park the other week was that in the helicopter when they're going down Dr. Grant (the stand in for the tried and true methods and non-tech themes) ends up with two female ends of a seatbelt. And he finds a way to make it work.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dMjQ3hA9mEA

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BiggerBoat
Sep 26, 2007

Don't you tell me my business again.

Imagined posted:

Are you suggesting two female seatbelts would... mate?

Wifes...uh...find a way.

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