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flavor.flv posted:That was based on a real dog, too. They only used paintings and etchings for the logo because this is what happened when they tried to film it: Good dog
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Amphigory posted:Haha, those guys are properly cracking up
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In the new Joel Coen version of 'Macbeth', watch the reflections in the water and the shadows, and listen carefully to the audio whenever the Weird Sister(s) is(are) onscreen.
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[quote="Imagined" post="520826236"] In the new Joel Coen version of 'Macbeth', watch the reflections in the water and the shadows, and listen carefully to the audio whenever the Weird Sister(s) is(are) onscreen. Or maybe you could just tell us Edit or is this the subtle posting moments thread and i hosed up
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Jeez, I wanted to leave some element of surprise and not spoil it, gently caress me right? The Weird Sisters are played by one actress, but when she speaks you hear other whispers of her voice overdubbed multiple times, and she casts multiple reflections and shadows.
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Imagined posted:Jeez, I wanted to leave some element of surprise and not spoil it, gently caress me right? Thats pretty cool, im disappointed now that ive read it in advance
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I'm not a huge Shakespeare fan but Denzel Washington, Frances McDormand and the Coens loving own so I kinda wanna check this Macbeth movie out. The previews and clips I've seen look amazing but I'm not sure I can get past the dialect and all of its density. I might get stoned on a cold rainy evening and make a double feature out it with The Green Knight.
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BiggerBoat posted:I'm not a huge Shakespeare fan but Denzel Washington, Frances McDormand and the Coens loving own so I kinda wanna check this Macbeth movie out. The previews and clips I've seen look amazing but I'm not sure I can get past the dialect and all of its density. Honestly the thing to do is not worry too much about catching every word. Just let it sort of wash past you. People psych themselves out about Shakespeare and it's honestly better to miss certain things than to be all tense trying to decipher it.
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Denzel knows from Shakespeare and when you have an actor of that caliber who knows what they're saying and can convey it to the audience, you'll be fine. Shakespeare is much easier to understand than the reputation of his work would suggest and Macbeth's language is particularly accessible.
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Yeah, Shakespeare can be easy to get tangled up in if you’re unfamiliar with the language and reading it off the page, but in action it becomes a lot clearer with the addition of tone and physicality. When in doubt it’s probably a pun about sex. I don’t remember if that applies to this play specifically off the top of my head but as a general Shakespeare rule it works
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Jan 19, 2022 19:42
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christmas boots posted:When in doubt it’s probably a pun about sex. I don’t remember if that applies to this play specifically off the top of my head but as a general Shakespeare rule it works When in doubt assume it's a dick joke is actual, practical advice for Shakespearean tablework. Works better on his earlier plays though.
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HopperUK posted:Honestly the thing to do is not worry too much about catching every word. Just let it sort of wash past you. People psych themselves out about Shakespeare and it's honestly better to miss certain things than to be all tense trying to decipher it. Tell that to high school English teachers.
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TheAlmightyFrog posted:Tell that to high school English teachers. Yeah I’m pretty sure teachers do more to turn people off Shakespeare than anyone. Which is kind of a catch-22 because you have to actually teach something when your class is studying it, right?
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Honestly it doesn't help that for some reason it's always loving Romeo and Juliet that get served up as the entry-level Shakespeare but with a presentation of it as some sort of love story despite it being about a 13 and maybe 15 year old who meet, get married, gently caress, and end up with a sizeable body count all in the course of about a week. We start off with this bowdlerized "high art" presentation of pop art about boners. If we could be honest about Shakespeare and teach the plays the way they really are and just loving relax about the canon (and maybe teach some other plays) Shakespeare would not feel so out of reach as it is.
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rantmo posted:When in doubt assume it's a dick joke is actual, practical advice for Shakespearean tablework. Works better on his earlier plays though. "Get you gone, you dwarf, you bead.... you acorn!" - Lysander, A Midsummer Night's Dream. Size shaming? 
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HopperUK posted:Honestly the thing to do is not worry too much about catching every word. Just let it sort of wash past you. People psych themselves out about Shakespeare and it's honestly better to miss certain things than to be all tense trying to decipher it. True. I've seen some Shakespeare plays and movies and absorbing the dialog delivered in context and everything pretty much works, much like you described, but there's still a lot of poo poo in there that adds another layer of density and complexity which can often hinder or entirely evade my ability to totally comprehend everything that's going on. There's a reason my English teachers had us break down lines and stanzas or whatever and try to decipher their meaning, as others have pointed out. And I didn't get assigned Romeo And Juliette. I cut my teeth on Julius Caesar and, later on, Macbeth. I got good grades on my papers because I could draw and shoved some illustrations in there. My school took us to see A Comedy of Errors in 8th grade and somehow the funny broke through but I don't remember much about it. I might have to check this Macbeth movie out because I could watch Denzel read a terms of service credit card disclaimer and Frances McDormand steals every scene I've ever seen her in. BiggerBoat has a new favorite as of 23:00 on Jan 19, 2022 |
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Caesar and Macbeth are great starting points, I would also say Twelfth Night and Much Ado About Nothing, though those two are particularly filthy so I get why they aren't used like that. Twelfth Night has the dirtiest joke in the canon after all.
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I appreciated seeing the kid who played Dudley Dursley getting some more work in 'Macbeth', too. I think the two biggest choices Coen made with his version is making Macbeth and Lady Macbeth childless 60-year-olds instead of barren young people which gives the idea of their lack of legacy a different vibe, and also making Ross a more overt agent-of-chaos and opportunist. It's definitely noticeable which actors were more comfortable with the Shakespearean dialogue than others. In particular I thought Washington, MacDormand, and Corey Hawkins (Macduff) were particularly adept at it. Bonus appearances from Stephen Root and Brendan Gleeson too, which are always nice.
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christmas boots posted:Alternatively the entire situation could have been defused if Bill Murray hadn’t been so combative with Peck from the get go. Perhaps, given a tour of the facility and a ride-along Peck might have been more reasonable but by the time things come to a head he hates Murray so loving much Yea, there must have been some way to show Peck and Co that they're providing a valuable service by containing the harmful ghosts. Although I still can't get over how ridiculous and dumb Ghostbusters 2's plot point of "The entirety of NYC and the world now doesn't believe in ghosts/weird poo poo despite hundreds of thousands, of not millions, of people witnessing with their own eyes ears and hands, a massive walking marshmallow man and many other ghostly entities". It doesn't even really change the plot, it just serves to sort of negate a lot of things from the first in ways that don't really make sense.
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Tumble posted:Although I still can't get over how ridiculous and dumb Ghostbusters 2's plot point of "The entirety of NYC and the world now doesn't believe in ghosts/weird poo poo despite hundreds of thousands, of not millions, of people witnessing with their own eyes ears and hands, a massive walking marshmallow man and many other ghostly entities". It doesn't even really change the plot, it just serves to sort of negate a lot of things from the first in ways that don't really make sense. Ghostbusters: Afterlife does the exact same thing as well
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And implicit with the ghosts, undeniable proof of some sort of afterlife and all the theological implications involved with that.
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If I were supposed to make a ghostbusters spinoff, I'd go with 'the ambient negative energy of the 2000s means that ghosts are everywhere now', and have bill murray as the major antagonist for a plucky group of barely-scraping-by millennials who are busting ghosts part-time with his Bustr app. That way you don't ignore the good movie, and still don't have to have the original cast come in as heroes
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rantmo posted:Caesar and Macbeth are great starting points, I would also say Twelfth Night and Much Ado About Nothing, though those two are particularly filthy so I get why they aren't used like that. Twelfth Night has the dirtiest joke in the canon after all. If the students try to tell you the bard is boring bust out the ol’ Titus A. imo
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Tunicate posted:If I were supposed to make a ghostbusters spinoff, I'd go with 'the ambient negative energy of the 2000s means that ghosts are everywhere now', and have bill murray as the major antagonist for a plucky group of barely-scraping-by millennials who are busting ghosts part-time with his Bustr app. If I had to do a ghostbusters movie in TYOOL2022 I'd use science or magic to make sure that it was done by Taika Watiti. There. Perfect modern Ghostbusters movie.
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Imagined posted:And implicit with the ghosts, undeniable proof of some sort of afterlife and all the theological implications involved with that. Venkman brings Ghostbusters Inc. to extreme profitability when he starts to upsell the option of a more luxurious ghost jail for people who want to rid themselves of a loved ones pesky ghost but don't want to feel guilty. IshmaelZarkov posted:If I had to do a ghostbusters movie in TYOOL2022 I'd use science or magic to make sure that it was done by Taika Watiti. Yea it's such a bummer they decided to gently caress up yet another Ghostbusters when there are so many people who could have done it justice while simultaneously making it a blockbuster that would merchandise out well. It was such a cynically corporate move to decide that the main characters should be kids. They could have gotten a new group of actually funny people and proper writers and all that and the toys would still sell but instead it got turned into a sentimental kids movie.
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If they lock in the actors while they are young, they can get way more sequels made with the same group.
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Imagined posted:And implicit with the ghosts, undeniable proof of some sort of afterlife and all the theological implications involved with that. Well officially, the church will not take any position on the religious implications of the... uh... phenomena.
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christmas boots posted:If the students try to tell you the bard is boring bust out the ol’ Titus A. imo Or Coriolanus. And then watch the excellent film with Ralph Feinnes, Brian Cox, and Gerard Butler.
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Tumble posted:Venkman brings Ghostbusters Inc. to extreme profitability when he starts to upsell the option of a more luxurious ghost jail for people who want to rid themselves of a loved ones pesky ghost but don't want to feel guilty. Ghostbusters: Afterlife was made for people that saw the original and are taking their kids to see it. When I realised that it made the viewing experience marginally more tolerable. I don't know hate it but it doesn't hit the 4 quadrants appeal the original did. Oh wait, this is the Subtle Movie Moments, not the Irrationally Irritating Movie Moments thread.
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Quantum of Solace (2008). Hmm that air must be real dusty. 
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Stupid_Sexy_Flander posted:If they lock in the actors while they are young, they can get way more sequels made with the same group.
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Rupert Buttermilk posted:"Get you gone, you dwarf, you bead.... you acorn!" - Lysander, A Midsummer Night's Dream.
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Tumble posted:Yea, there must have been some way to show Peck and Co that they're providing a valuable service by containing the harmful ghosts. Nothing about the last few years has lead me to believe that "everyone just thought it was a hoax" is somehow unrealistic or a stretch of the imagination.
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Yeah, that used to be one of my biggest complaints about Ghostbusters 2 and now it's just a sad fact of life. It's like complaining about the decisions being made in zombie films at this point.
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Pope Corky the IX posted:Yeah, that used to be one of my biggest complaints about Ghostbusters 2 and now it's just a sad fact of life. It's like complaining about the decisions being made in zombie films at this point. I remember when people would complain about how stupid and unrealistic it was that people would hide their zombie-bites.
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Simply Simon posted:The German word for acorn also means glans The plot thickens. 
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Rupert Buttermilk posted:The plot thickens. You need to stop calling yours "the plot", and definitely stop telling us every time it thickens.
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christmas boots posted:I remember when people would complain about how stupid and unrealistic it was that people would hide their zombie-bites. I now know that if there actually were a zombie outbreak, about 30% of the population would slather themselves in BBQ sauce and run straight at the horde while yelling about how they refuse to live in fear.
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CainFortea posted:Nothing about the last few years has lead me to believe that "everyone just thought it was a hoax" is somehow unrealistic or a stretch of the imagination. Realistically, they just needed a reason for the plot to be something more than "there's something strange in the neighborhood, we should call the Ghostbusters" and then skipping getting the band back together, the trial, and getting sent to the nut house. However, I wonder if the way they did it was Dan Aykroyd making a dig at people not believing in the paranormal and UFOs the way he does.
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Imagined posted:I now know that if there actually were a zombie outbreak, about 30% of the population would slather themselves in BBQ sauce and run straight at the horde while yelling about how they refuse to live in fear. Avenue 5 came out juuuust before covid really took off and people were like "it's amusing but a little far fetched"
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