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Not a viking
Aug 2, 2008

Feels like I just got laid
Whats up with the Pendraken site? A lot of the miniatures don't have any pictures so its impossible to know what they look like: http://www.pendraken.co.uk/Fantasy-c21/Ratmen-sc165/

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berzerkmonkey
Jul 23, 2003

Not a viking posted:

Whats up with the Pendraken site? A lot of the miniatures don't have any pictures so its impossible to know what they look like: http://www.pendraken.co.uk/Fantasy-c21/Ratmen-sc165/

Yeah, that is a big turn-off for me with their site. Some people have posted pics in the forums, but the models are usually terribly painted, poorly lit, poor focus, etc.

If you look at the Kallistra site, you get slightly better photos, but they're still so small it's hard to make things out.

Serotonin
Jul 14, 2001

The history of all hitherto existing society is the history of *blank*

Not a viking posted:

Whats up with the Pendraken site? A lot of the miniatures don't have any pictures so its impossible to know what they look like: http://www.pendraken.co.uk/Fantasy-c21/Ratmen-sc165/

They are a business that until recently was run out of a guys shed and has around 3000 different figures. They are working on pics but it takes time. I have bought 100s of their minis and have never been disappointed with the quality or customer service.


To save me retyping my previous essay on the subject, feel free to read it in the historical thread. Also search my name and you will see some reasonably painted and not out of focus Pendraken figs.

http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3248082&userid=24506&perpage=40&pagenumber=8#post403388177

Serotonin fucked around with this message at 17:35 on Aug 25, 2012

serious gaylord
Sep 16, 2007

what.
I just bought pretty much every Imperial Fleet miniature for Battlefleet Gothic, and multiple sets of escorts and fighter bases.

What have I done....

goatface
Dec 5, 2007

I had a video of that when I was about 6.

I remember it being shit.


Grimey Drawer
Spent a silly amount of money?

serious gaylord
Sep 16, 2007

what.
I've never even played the game, just watched a few more than 5 years ago now. I hope its good.

berzerkmonkey
Jul 23, 2003

serious gaylord posted:

I just bought pretty much every Imperial Fleet miniature for Battlefleet Gothic, and multiple sets of escorts and fighter bases.

What have I done....

drat - and I have an Imperial fleet here that I don't need...

BFG is fun, but playing against Eldar can be a very frustrating experience. I recommend you avoid playing against them until you get the rules down, or you are going to hate the game.

serious gaylord
Sep 16, 2007

what.
I've been told that if we just stick to the original gothic game, Eldar, Imperial and Chaos, the game is much more fun and balanced.

Slab Squatthrust
Jun 3, 2008

This is mutiny!
There's also a fan set of rules for Eldar that helps them not be so stupid, called MMS (Move-Move-Shoot; rather than Move-Shoot-Move like they normally do). They're still super fast, but they aren't hilariously immune to Lances/Ordnance while being insanely vulnerable to Weapons Batteries. I played them like that for a bit and it was much more fun for me and my buddies.

turn it up TURN ME ON
Mar 19, 2012

In the Grim Darkness of the Future, there is only war.

...and delicious ice cream.
I used to love BFG, and as I recall it was actually the most affordable of all GW games to get into. $50 put together a decent fleet.

I keep seeing that GW put together some historical games as well.. does anyone know anything about those?

Crackbone
May 23, 2003

Vlaada is my co-pilot.

Would anybody here be interested in buying a set of original Necromunda + Outlanders Rulebooks? The ones that came in the original box sets. (No minis or terrain before anybody gets their hopes up).

berzerkmonkey
Jul 23, 2003

SquadronROE posted:

I used to love BFG, and as I recall it was actually the most affordable of all GW games to get into. $50 put together a decent fleet.

I keep seeing that GW put together some historical games as well.. does anyone know anything about those?

The price still isn't too terrible - you can still put together a large fleet for under $100 new, and can get a really good deal on fleets off of Ebay.

What did you want to know about the historicals? I know Trafalgar is naval combat loosely based of of Man O' War, there are Warhammer Historicals, based on Warhammer Fantasy Battle, and Warmaster Historicals, based on Warmaster (surprise!) All are surprisingly highly regarded, believe it or not.

I've never played the historical versions of the systems, but I was actually able to buy WM Ancients, WM Ancient Armies, and WM Medieval Armies from a guy really cheaply. Hopefully he was legit and will actually send me the books. :)

If you're interested in the systems, you can get the Warmaster Fantasy rules for free from the GW site - the WM Historicals system is pretty much the same, minus the magic.

From what I understand, the spiritual successors to the GW Historicals are now "Hail Caesar, "Pike & Shotte," and "Black Powder" all from Warlord Games. These books are also by Rick Priestly. I think they are all provisionally 28mm scale, but they're not dependent on scale - in other words, you can use anything from 2mm on up.

Everything from GW is out of print, so you may have a hard time finding stuff. If you're looking for the Warhammer Ancients stuff, email me at portablezombie at gmail.com and we can talk.

Mr.Trifecta
Mar 2, 2007

Man trying to get blood bowl teams on ebay is futile. Always getting sniped at the last minute by people with zero bids, which I assume are the buyers trying to drive up the prices. Ugh, if I wanted to pay retail, I would buy from GW.

Not a viking
Aug 2, 2008

Feels like I just got laid
Which team are you after? There are plenty of non-brand bb teams or you can make one out of regiment boxes. I used AoBR orks for my team.

berzerkmonkey
Jul 23, 2003

Mr.Trifecta posted:

Man trying to get blood bowl teams on ebay is futile. Always getting sniped at the last minute by people with zero bids, which I assume are the buyers trying to drive up the prices. Ugh, if I wanted to pay retail, I would buy from GW.
If you're in the US, retail to you is cheap to the rest of the world, especially Australia, where BB is really, really popular. Also, try Bartertown or http://www.talkfantasyfootball.org/.

Not a viking posted:

There are plenty of non-brand bb teams or you can make one out of regiment boxes. I used AoBR orks for my team.
Hell yes - it's not even worth buying a metal Orc BB team. Just use 40K Orks with some Black Orc heads thrown in for blitzers. If you want to get really fancy, use the Puppets War Orc heads.

berzerkmonkey fucked around with this message at 13:46 on Sep 7, 2012

Mr.Trifecta
Mar 2, 2007

Not a viking posted:

Which team are you after? There are plenty of non-brand bb teams or you can make one out of regiment boxes. I used AoBR orks for my team.

Well I guess I am starting to collect a few teams such as Norse, Nurgle etc. Looked at some non-branded ones, but they are all over in your Europe and just as much if not more then GW teams.

berzerkmonkey
Jul 23, 2003

Mr.Trifecta posted:

Well I guess I am starting to collect a few teams such as Norse, Nurgle etc. Looked at some non-branded ones, but they are all over in your Europe and just as much if not more then GW teams.
Yeah, those alternative teams are not cheap at all. I would keep an eye out on the trading sections of the GW-related sites and you might be able to find a deal. It helps if you have some rare stuff to trade as well.

The problem with BB is that you pretty much buy a team and you're done. There are no constant resculpts and upgrades like with 40K and Fantasy, so there is no reason for people to get rid of their old team. The best you can hope for is someone getting out of the game.

enri
Dec 16, 2003

Hope you're having an amazing day

Not a viking posted:

Which team are you after? There are plenty of non-brand bb teams or you can make one out of regiment boxes. I used AoBR orks for my team.

This :) beastmen box set and improvised chaos warriors, et voila.. Instant chaos team

dishwasherlove
Nov 26, 2007

The ultimate fusion of man and machine.

Anything you kitbash out of the new plastic GW models is going to looks 10x better than those old sculpts.

Not a viking
Aug 2, 2008

Feels like I just got laid

Mr.Trifecta posted:

Well I guess I am starting to collect a few teams such as Norse, Nurgle etc. Looked at some non-branded ones, but they are all over in your Europe and just as much if not more then GW teams.

Get a box of marauders, instant Norse team. I wanted to make a dark elf team out of wyches because the models are so lovely, but I need to finish my orc team first.

serious gaylord
Sep 16, 2007

what.
Its so nice of GW to still make the battlefleet gothic ships but i'd like it if they included the instructions with their 20 piece metal loving battleships oh my god.

Asphyxious
Jun 25, 2012

I'm trying to explain that I'm a person who wishes to live a very quiet life.
Ordered a bunch of blood bowl templates and have started building a blood bowl team, while playing the PC game I found myself thinking "I bet this would be reeeeeeally fun on the tabletop". How do the various base sizes work? I see a lot of people modelling larger creatures on larger bases, but isn't there issues with overlapping/not having room?

enri
Dec 16, 2003

Hope you're having an amazing day

Asphyxious posted:

Ordered a bunch of blood bowl templates and have started building a blood bowl team, while playing the PC game I found myself thinking "I bet this would be reeeeeeally fun on the tabletop". How do the various base sizes work? I see a lot of people modelling larger creatures on larger bases, but isn't there issues with overlapping/not having room?

The board squares are 30mm wide, most people go for 40mm round bases for the big guys. It does overlap but next to two 25mm bases, everyone still fits in their square :)

If you're worried about having space to lay the model down then you can keep a base spare to use in its place just as a marker of sorts.

Not a viking
Aug 2, 2008

Feels like I just got laid

Asphyxious posted:

Ordered a bunch of blood bowl templates and have started building a blood bowl team, while playing the PC game I found myself thinking "I bet this would be reeeeeeally fun on the tabletop".

And the bugs aren't there. I stopped playing the PC version the second time I was forced to place my guys at random before kick-off.

Asphyxious
Jun 25, 2012

I'm trying to explain that I'm a person who wishes to live a very quiet life.
Oh cool. I'll now put my minotaur on a 40mm base with impunity. I've roped a couple of friends into it, they're looking at ogres and lizardmen, I think the ogre player might be in for a rough time.

berzerkmonkey
Jul 23, 2003
Yeah, this is a game where base size isn't an issue. As long as you can tell the square where the model is standing, you're good.

Tell your Lizardman friend not to get attached to his Skinks - they're fragile if caught. Also, he must give them funny names like "Tinxi Winxi" or "Ixti Bixti."

ocrumsprug
Sep 23, 2010

by LITERALLY AN ADMIN

Asphyxious posted:

Ordered a bunch of blood bowl templates and have started building a blood bowl team, while playing the PC game I found myself thinking "I bet this would be reeeeeeally fun on the tabletop". How do the various base sizes work? I see a lot of people modelling larger creatures on larger bases, but isn't there issues with overlapping/not having room?

It only really becomes a problem when you have a lot of big guys (ogre team), or if the models have flailing arms or something. My local league uses 40mm boards though, and that is far more comfortable of a scale for the board. Even if you have no big guys.

enri
Dec 16, 2003

Hope you're having an amazing day

ocrumsprug posted:

It only really becomes a problem when you have a lot of big guys (ogre team), or if the models have flailing arms or something. My local league uses 40mm boards though, and that is far more comfortable of a scale for the board. Even if you have no big guys.

I hope you've scaled your range rulers up to accommodate the bigger squares :v:

ocrumsprug
Sep 23, 2010

by LITERALLY AN ADMIN

enri posted:

I hope you've scaled your range rulers up to accommodate the bigger squares :v:

That's actually how we haze new guys. :ssh:

4-5 years ago they had a bunch of boards created and laminated and got a full set of upscaled templates for the league.

This is the championship game from last years Spike! Tournament* which they host. Embiggened throwing template is in lower left corner.



* Additional board photos can be found in the sites gallery.

~~~

Speaking of which, this years Spike! is in two weeks. So if there is anyone in the thread that is interested in getting some organized Bloodbowl played, and wants to spend a weekend in a hotel's ballroom quite near the most beautiful city in the world you should come out.

enri
Dec 16, 2003

Hope you're having an amazing day

ocrumsprug posted:

That's actually how we haze new guys. :ssh:

Excellent :)

Wooper
Oct 16, 2006

Champion draGoon horse slayer. Making Lancers weep for their horsies since 2011. Viva Dickbutt.
If you people are interested in playing Blood Bowl with goons, the new season of Goon Fumbbl League is about to start.

Fumbbl is a free, online Blood Bowl league. It has a browser/java based game client. Even if you don't join the league you can probably get games against goons by hanging out in #tgbloodbowl.

Wolfsbane
Jul 29, 2009

What time is it, Eccles?

Can anyone suggest an alternative rule system to use with Warhammer Quest? I've been playing a campaign (using the full RPG rules), and while I love the between-missions tables and some of the other random generation stuff, the brokenness of the combat system is starting to bother me. I've heard that AD&D 4th is fairly good for this sort of thing, but it might be a bit rules heavy. I mostly just want to avoid stupid things like the dwarf being immune to monsters that would one-shot anyone else in the party, or the way the healing system means no-one ever dies.

Basically, if I can keep my maps and miniatures (and wilderness tables) while at the same time giving the players fun & challenging fights, I'll be happy.

Atlas Hugged
Mar 12, 2007


Put your arms around me,
fiddly digits, itchy britches
I love you all

Edit: Disregard

Atlas Hugged fucked around with this message at 17:55 on Oct 2, 2012

Power Player
Oct 2, 2006

GOD SPEED YOU! HUNGRY MEXICAN
Man, I love the whole idea behind Mordheim/Gorkamorka/Necromunda (semi-permanent squad, etc). Wish that GW still supported those types of games.

A Strange Aeon
Mar 26, 2010

You are now a slimy little toad
The Great Twist
There's really only one super broken healing spell that I can think of, which is the 2 power point one that heals everyone 1 wound. Since it can be cast basically every turn after the monster phase, it can lead to really stupid situations where the heroes attack, all get dropped to 0, then get healed for 1, and repeat, with virtually no end to what should be a total party kill, barring exceptionally terrible power rolls--like so many that the wizard has to expend all his power store, which is unlikely.

What is causing you trouble? All the other forms of healing have limits that actually matter. If it's that spell, it isn't hard to fix it so it's not ridiculous--even increasing the cost slightly makes it more in line with the other spells.

And what's the dwarf's deal? His toughness and armor aren't so much higher than everyone else's that he should be invulnerable.

Pierzak
Oct 30, 2010

Wolfsbane posted:

Can anyone suggest an alternative rule system to use with Warhammer Quest? I've been playing a campaign (using the full RPG rules), and while I love the between-missions tables and some of the other random generation stuff, the brokenness of the combat system is starting to bother me. I've heard that AD&D 4th is fairly good for this sort of thing, but it might be a bit rules heavy. I mostly just want to avoid stupid things like the dwarf being immune to monsters that would one-shot anyone else in the party, or the way the healing system means no-one ever dies.

Basically, if I can keep my maps and miniatures (and wilderness tables) while at the same time giving the players fun & challenging fights, I'll be happy.
Descent has a quite nice combat system, though it requires reworking the stats and special dice (which you can buy separately). First and second editions have very different variations on this, pick your poison (I'm leaning more towards 1).

Asphyxious
Jun 25, 2012

I'm trying to explain that I'm a person who wishes to live a very quiet life.
I have spent the last week playing Blood Bowl and god drat it is amazing. We started with four teams, the Praag City Pillagers (chaos), Brunwasser Rat Bastards (Skaven), Clar Karond Anguish Pears (Dark Elves) and the Estfelberg Doublecocks (humans). From this another eight people have started looking at teams and I can't wait. So far the teams doing the best are the Doublecocks and the Rat Bastards, the latter is to most people's surprise as the internet was generally pretty scathing about Skaven teams. The Pillagers (my team) have been building pretty slowly, but I suffered having my Minotaur sustaining a niggling injury early on in the piece.

Should get a few more games in before I move interstate, been ages since I've had this much fun with a game.

Zombie #246
Apr 26, 2003

Murr rgghhh ahhrghhh fffff
This here, I found on BGG, creates a much more dynamic system of generating dungeons for warhammer quest. The combat mechanics are mostly the same in the other documents though.

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ad_SJ7_DWpPIwf4e2M9MlbDY07Cco8kNMsHOnzTKBRA/edit#bookmark=id.ej1se64mkruw

PeterWeller
Apr 21, 2003

I told you that story so I could tell you this one.

Asphyxious posted:

the Praag City Pillagers (chaos), Brunwasser Rat Bastards (Skaven), Clar Karond Anguish Pears (Dark Elves) and the Estfelberg Doublecocks (humans)

These are wonderful names, especially the DE and human teams. One of my favorite things about Blood Bowl and Necromunda is naming your teams, gangs, players, and gangers.

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Asphyxious
Jun 25, 2012

I'm trying to explain that I'm a person who wishes to live a very quiet life.

PeterWeller posted:

These are wonderful names, especially the DE and human teams. One of my favorite things about Blood Bowl and Necromunda is naming your teams, gangs, players, and gangers.

Yeah, I kinda fell down there with naming mine too seriously. The Doublecocks came about from my Polish friend's empire army, hailing from the fictional town of Estfelberg on the border of the Empire and Kislev. Their crest was a red two headed rooster on a half yellow/half blue background. The town's primary export was violent criminals, and the Doublecocks were formed from those stupid enough to get caught for the same crime twice. So the name works on a couple of levels. He let everyone take turns naming team members too, so they have the worst names ever.

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