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Communist Thoughts posted:I desperately want a new gunpowder game other than FotS but in my heart I know it'll be medieval 3 If they go for medieval 3 i hope they bring back the darker and gritty vibes from medieval 1. And bring back Sean pertwee as the announcer. "Craven whore's son that he is, the enemy general flees!" EDIT: oof, page snype have a medieval catte: 
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nobody cares about page snipes fyi I like the cat though
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Blooming Brilliant posted:Isn't the next historical TW game confirmed as the other Three Kingdoms game in development? I could be totally wrong, but I got the impression that the next 3k thing is going to lean heavily into the story/romance side of things. It seems they are going to more or less abandon the historical side and embrace the dynasty warriors part.
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With this DLC, Troy has been considered done. So it seems that right now, we have Warhammer 3 in development along with a new saga game to be announced. I'm not sure if it's going to be the Three Kingdoms sequel since I think it wouldn't be well accepted due to how they pulled the plug so recently from the previous game, but outside of maybe a new Empire Total War, I'm drawing blanks on what they might do.
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Dec 3, 2021 14:28
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They've already said they're working on the next 3k, though what it will look like no one is quite sure since the description is open for interpretation
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Dec 3, 2021 14:42
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The next time they do a full on historical game is 100% going to be Medieval 3. There is nothing else they could do that would have even close to the draw of Med3. Warhammer was so incredibly successfully there is no way they are going to focus on a historical game that isn't also going to be hugely successful. That said I don't think we will see Medieval 3 for a while. We might see a few saga games between. Or really they might release no full games and just ride the Warhammer 3 dlc train to the bank for like 4 years.
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I feel like there's enough of an audience for TW games that doesn't care for Warhammer that they're not gonna stretch it to that extent; I reckon we'll get some news about the next major title not too long after 3 comes out, it's already gonna have been like 3 years since 3 Kingdoms launched at that point.Communist Thoughts posted:the building text and stuff is all very cynical, plus stuff like if you have a low tech low military build your public order is made up of happiness but as you advance you need to stack up "repression" instead as unhappiness gets larger and larger. All the little blurbs and stuff in Shogun 2 are super evocative and well done; the layout's not so amazing but the presentation (art, sound, text etc) of the campaign UI in that game is... to be honest imo it's gotta be one of the best in literally any game ever. I'm hard pressed to think of one that tops it at least, it's clear and clean but also distinct and evocative.
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Dec 4, 2021 06:26
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I mean we know they are just doing China again. So we know the next historical title. Even though I don’t think I’ve heard poo poo about it since
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Dec 4, 2021 09:11
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Total War: Heavenly Kingdom please
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I've been assuming that the next 3K entry will be the actual 3K era, with Shu, Wei, and Wu dominating the map. You will finally get to benevolently spike your baby into the end zone as the one true scion of Han.
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Dec 4, 2021 13:18
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Communist Thoughts posted:Total War: Heavenly Kingdom please Extremely strong yes please to this, a 19th century China TW is my biggest historical want from the series now.
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Dec 4, 2021 14:48
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boxer rebellion would be fun, but there weren't really a lot of battles and unless you broke it down into week long turns, the time frame is incredibly short.
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Dec 4, 2021 16:50
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They didn't say they were doing China in general, they specifically referred to Romance of the Three Kingdoms as the franchise so I wouldn't get too excited for any Chinese history outside of that.
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Dec 4, 2021 17:30
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boo boo bear posted:boxer rebellion would be fun, but there weren't really a lot of battles and unless you broke it down into week long turns, the time frame is incredibly short. The Boshin War was both shorter and less bloody than the rebellion and they made a whole game for that. I think they could manage.
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Dec 4, 2021 17:33
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Captain Beans posted:The next time they do a full on historical game is 100% going to be Medieval 3. There is nothing else they could do that would have even close to the draw of Med3. Warhammer was so incredibly successfully there is no way they are going to focus on a historical game that isn't also going to be hugely successful. I would go ballistic for Medieval 3. I like warhammer, I found Shogun, Empire/Napoleon and 3 Kingdoms interesting ideas that didn't quite hit for me. Very keen on Troy, Britannia. But the ones I've truly played to death have been Medieval and Rome (inc Med2 Kingdoms and Barbarian Invasion, Attila etc). Call me a raving Eurocentric wanker if you want. I just like knights.
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Dec 4, 2021 17:39
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I'm bored by another medieval. Oh boy, twelve more identical euro factions. Spain will have mounted skirmishers, France will have the best knights, England will have longbowen, HRE will have pikes, and Hungary will have hussars, the other 90% (if we're lucky) will be identical rosters.
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Dec 4, 2021 17:54
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Edgar Allen Ho posted:I'm bored by another medieval. Oh boy, twelve more identical euro factions. Spain will have mounted skirmishers, France will have the best knights, England will have longbowen, HRE will have pikes, and Hungary will have hussars, the other 90% (if we're lucky) will be identical rosters. Not identical, but dlc as long as the eye can see.
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Dec 4, 2021 17:57
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Edgar Allen Ho posted:I'm bored by another medieval. Oh boy, twelve more identical euro factions. Spain will have mounted skirmishers, France will have the best knights, England will have longbowen, HRE will have pikes, and Hungary will have hussars, the other 90% (if we're lucky) will be identical rosters.
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Dec 4, 2021 19:05
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Edgar Allen Ho posted:I'm bored by another medieval. Oh boy, twelve more identical euro factions. Spain will have mounted skirmishers, France will have the best knights, England will have longbowen, HRE will have pikes, and Hungary will have hussars, the other 90% (if we're lucky) will be identical rosters. I will take this over another 3 kingdoms games, especially since we just did that I mean think I’d they followed Rome 2 with 3. Even as someone whose favorite period is Rome I don’t want that
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Dec 4, 2021 19:16
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Thry can do whatever they want next, I'm not buying it after they've shown little of a gently caress they give about anything that doesn't instantly start printing warhammer level money.
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Dec 4, 2021 19:36
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boo boo bear posted:boxer rebellion would be fun, but there weren't really a lot of battles and unless you broke it down into week long turns, the time frame is incredibly short. okay but the taiping war was 15 years long and had lots of battles
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Dec 4, 2021 19:44
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I think those kind of campaigns work better as DLC like the Augustus campaign. Where it’s a specific campaign without a ton of replay ability. So you get it cheaper
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Dec 4, 2021 20:04
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By the way, the final Rome Remastered patch has a SLEW of new things unlocked up for modders and the community is super excited. Unlimited factions, unlimited super-factions, unlimited cultures, unlimited religions (new ways for religions to interact like heretics vs heathens) , ways to modify the campaign and battle ai (different battle Ai for different factions now possible), unlimited "Marian reform" type events, code in general being cleaned up and a lot easier to work with, it's all very cool. Who knows if it'll trigger a big renaissance but it's going to be great to see what the existing modders do with it
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Dec 4, 2021 20:26
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ShootaBoy posted:Thry can do whatever they want next, I'm not buying it after they've shown little of a gently caress they give about anything that doesn't instantly start printing warhammer level money. what they gave plenty of post release support to thrones of britannia and Troy, which nobody cares about, gave Three Kingdoms several expansions and updates, I don’t get what this means is it still the “hey we’re done with our finished product, please look forward to our next product” announcement
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Its called warhammer is still getting support and new content with its sequel two months out after nearly 5 years, while 3K got shuttered after barely two years and several pieces of DLC that were promised never came or the bugfixes that were supposed to come with them. You can do what you like but its ridiculous to act like CA doesn't have a favourite.
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It's literally just 3K they did that for. Which yeah did suck but it still got a year's support and it seems like part of the problem was the direction they initially planned to take it vs the direction they realized it needed to go with the new Chinese market were so divergent that it needed a totally different approach. I'm of course just assuming but I think it's reasonable to give the benefit of the doubt, and people taking the *1* piece of additional DLC they tentatively announced as some sacrosanct oath is exactly the reason they stopped giving us state of the teams updates where they mention future plans like that.
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To be fair I’m pretty sure they shelved 3k not because it wasn’t doing enough numbers, but because just releasing the game again with some new gimmick will make even more money. Completely unrelated to Warhammer but still greedy
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It got six paid expansion packs and some pretty major free patch overhauls. So yeah it sucks that it wasn’t supported longer, but it got major support while it was active. I’m also curious what the fundamental changes are that they believe can only be solved with a brand new game.
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I'm more curious in what bugs are still present in 3K that makes the game feel incomplete, since it's by far the best and smoothest total war game of the historical saga so far.
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ShootaBoy posted:Its called warhammer is still getting support and new content with its sequel two months out after nearly 5 years, while 3K got shuttered after barely two years and several pieces of DLC that were promised never came or the bugfixes that were supposed to come with them. Warhammer is a much bigger and varied world than China circa 200AD. Of course Warhammer gets more content. They’re making a new 3K thing anyway, just not bolting it onto the game we got two years ago. Mans posted:I'm more curious in what bugs are still present in 3K that makes the game feel incomplete, since it's by far the best and smoothest total war game of the historical saga so far. Pretty much, and the announcement that it’s now done and stable just means modders can go nuts without being worried about future incompatibilities.
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Mans posted:I'm more curious in what bugs are still present in 3K that makes the game feel incomplete, since it's by far the best and smoothest total war game of the historical saga so far. CharlestheHammer posted:To be fair I’m pretty sure they shelved 3k not because it wasn’t doing enough numbers, but because just releasing the game again with some new gimmick will make even more money.
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Anno posted:It got six paid expansion packs and some pretty major free patch overhauls. So yeah it sucks that it wasn’t supported longer, but it got major support while it was active. I’m also curious what the fundamental changes are that they believe can only be solved with a brand new game. The main complaint people had about 3K is that while it simulates the early period of warlordism very well the actual war of the three kingdoms is an endgame slog. They've also probably reached the limits of how character driven a warscape game can be, so I'm holding out hope for something new built from the ground up.
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The problem with 3K was that I was about 2/3 of the way through my first campaign before all the game mechanics finally 'clicked' for me. The colour coding is surface level intuitive, but it took me a really long time to appreciate that researching 'green' techs didn't just make my farms better, I would also unlock units that would complement a 'green' focus. No other TW game structures itself like that.
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Yeah I definitely find myself bouncing off it more than any other title when I launch it up. The times I've really dedicated time to playing it properly have been great but there is (to me) something surface-level that's kind of unappealing.
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lmao at the idea of 3KTW being shelved because of greed after patches and DLC brought a significant amount of content to it. people out there really having their idea of post-launch support getting skewed big time by outliers not to say that games getting extensive post-launch support is bad, loving duh, but they're absolutely outliers considering usual practices
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Dec 6, 2021 06:36
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No xiongnu was a major let down, also no actual three kingdoms period
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toasterwarrior posted:lmao at the idea of 3KTW being shelved because of greed after patches and DLC brought a significant amount of content to it. people out there really having their idea of post-launch support getting skewed big time by outliers Oh yeah apparently now getting 6 DLC mini expansions is abandoning your game.
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As someone whose favorite TW game ever is 3K, I get that most games don't get as much post launch support. But what what made it really sting is A) the video announcing the ending of post-launch support was really misleadingly titled "the future of TW3K" so it sucked that the answer to that question is "no there is no future," B) There were still DLCs they had previously said they were going to make, including the actual, literal Three Kingdoms era, and C) not only did they say there would be no more DLC, they also said they weren't even going to *patch* the game anymore when there are still some really annoying and obvious bugs to fix. You still get a big treachery penalty for defending your vassals, for example
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In still calling it greedy you can lol if you want I guess Because it is greedy by the way incredibly so
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Sucks too because sun ce was one of the most fun historical total war campaigns ever imo and it would be nice of they could bring that same energy to a proper 3 kingdoms start
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