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We don't know what time it's releasing I guess? I'm only gonna have access to my PC early tomorrow morning.
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fuf posted:We don't know what time it's releasing I guess? I'm only gonna have access to my PC early tomorrow morning. Yeah I'd like to know too. Not necessarily feeling the game itself but...its free.
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Aug 12, 2020 18:11
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fuf posted:We don't know what time it's releasing I guess? I'm only gonna have access to my PC early tomorrow morning. The Warhammer DLCs iirc tend to drop around north american morning so your hopes are best if you're on the west coast and probably shot if you're in Europe/Asia/Australia.
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It's free so I'll try it, i've warmed up to it in the past two weeks and now I'm looking forward to trying it. Should unlock afternoon GMT or so. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SzxqMWgpjLU Havoc review.
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Aug 12, 2020 18:24
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Edgar Allen Ho posted:The Warhammer DLCs iirc tend to drop around north american morning so your hopes are best if you're on the west coast and probably shot if you're in Europe/Asia/Australia. noooooo
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Aug 12, 2020 18:25
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fuf posted:noooooo I believe you're able to register Epic games to your account with their website. I haven't done it myself (I've always used the PC app), but it appears possible to do it via a mobile phone web browser. https://www.epicgames.com/store/en-US/product/a-total-war-saga-troy/home Kaal fucked around with this message at 14:05 on Aug 13, 2020 |
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Aug 12, 2020 18:43
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Flipswitch posted:It's free so I'll try it, i've warmed up to it in the past two weeks and now I'm looking forward to trying it. Should unlock afternoon GMT or so. Havoc posted:If there are a few areas that Creative Assembly have never been a disappointment in, it would be overall game design.
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Aug 12, 2020 18:49
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fuf posted:We don't know what time it's releasing I guess? I'm only gonna have access to my PC early tomorrow morning. 14:00 BST.
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Dramicus posted:I beg to loving differ. Really? What timeline/game do you think falls on its face the worst? There are some total war games that can be hated on for a lot of good reasons (AI is poo poo, performance is terrible, bugs, too much micro, too little micro, ect.) but it seems like people keep playing even the most 'broken' games because they love the time period and it draws people in. There was some youtube video that showed the average players of all the TW games on steam over time and it's amazing how many people continue to play Empire, Medieval 2 and other older titles.
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Captain Beans posted:Really? What timeline/game do you think falls on its face the worst? All of that is true, and none of it precludes TW games from having questionable game design decisions. It also doesn't help that Creative Assembly is basically the only company making Total War style games, it's literally the only game in town. That being said, a lot of their decisions relating to agents, with the exception of 3 Kingdoms removing them, have been bad. I'm also one of those few who adamantly insists that Shogun 1 and Medieval 1's boardgame style maps were and still are superior to the 3d maps we started getting with Rome 1. I would say the 3d maps have gotten to the point where they are tolerable with Warhammer and 3 Kingdoms, but even so they take so much more work to implement and don't really add anything more to the experience that a map with 2d provinces doesn't have. Hell, there were more field battles in Shogun 1 and Medieval 1 due to the way the system was designed. You only got to a siege until the enemy stopped reinforcing the province. Also, 2d risk-style maps with set provinces and set links are a hell of a lot easier to program AI to understand and play well on. But to summarize CA's bad/questionable design decisions: - Agents (just terrible all-round, get rid of them and let them stay dead) - 3d maps (debatable, but I think it was better before) - Naval battles (Except for Warhammer 2, which is the perfect solution in my opinion) - recruitment (except for 3 Kingdoms) - fatigue (mostly because it's impossible to get right, either everyone gets exhausted and the whole thing becomes a slog by the end of the battle, or it has next to no impact and you can ignore it. They waffle between the two styles every couple games) - Economy (maybe fixed with Troy, but basically it's a case of it mattering at the beginning of the game, and you can essentially ignore it after turn 60 or so) - Diplomacy (was utter garbage until 3 Kingdoms) - Faction / Unit designs lack of diversity (Games like Shogun, 3 Kingdoms, Britannia, probably Troy are hamstrung by the adherence to history while simultaneously being a-historical [Shogun being one of the worst offenders] ) - Public Order (again one of those, it's a big problem, or you can ignore it entirely issues) That's all I can think of off the top of my head for now. Don't get me wrong, Total War is probably my favorite series and I have close to 1k hours per game for most of them. But CA is far from perfect. They have been doing much better since Warhammer 1 came out though. Hopefully they keep on that track. Keep in mind the state that Rome 2 was in at launch and they only just got around to fixing it in 2018 or so. There was a period shortly after the launch of Rome 2 and around the launch of Attila that many of us thought CA was going to go out of business, that's how bad it was at one point. Dramicus fucked around with this message at 03:44 on Aug 13, 2020 |
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Chocobo posted:I don't feel particularly heroic about this victory? Liu Bei has personally spiked half a dozen of his infant children into the ground in my latest game and he gets a heroic portrayal, I think it fits. (Seriously, I keep getting that event and it's hilarious).
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Aug 13, 2020 03:49
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Yeah CAs major strength is they are the only dev making this genre Id swap in a heartbeat to something new and more competent. They do occasionally have flashes of greatness like imo 3K and FotS
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There are some contenders, but none with the same kind of resources. And you can see clear progress with CA games, the ones I've played were better than next one (skipped ThroB, because gently caress Vikings in Britain setting).
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Communist Thoughts posted:Yeah CAs major strength is they are the only dev making this genre Making a TW game is harder than it looks.
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I don't know whether it's just so hard to make these games, or that one company already has such a hold on the market that it doesn't make sense to compete with them, but for some genres, there's only one game in town. I would appreciate more competition for Total War games, Sims games, or Grand Strategy games. But we're stuck with the companies that popularized those niches. Not that I'm super unhappy with CA or Paradox (CK3 looks like it will be an amazing upgrade to CK2), but it wouldn't hurt to have more options.
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Aug 13, 2020 10:06
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Wheres my free game you lazy fucks its almost noon.
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Aug 13, 2020 10:11
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It's coming out at 23:00 Brisbane time
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Buller posted:Whats a Brisbane Aussie slang for a latrine pit.
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Helen looks uh... pretty stupid are they basing that look on anything?
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Communist Thoughts posted:Helen looks uh... pretty stupid 
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Communist Thoughts posted:Helen looks uh... pretty stupid She is beautiful and I can't wait to get up in that clussy in a Paris campaign.
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Flipswitch posted:Mycenaean make up for the period. There's a post from a CA person on their forums answering the same question. okay cool to be clear, things that look stupid but are historical own, like Phrygian helmets e:  hell yea queen Communist Thoughts fucked around with this message at 13:42 on Aug 13, 2020 |
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Aug 13, 2020 13:39
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Yeah I'm of the opinion it looks hella daft but different beauty standards(?) in history etc. Not sure if that's the word I'm looking for. I'm still trying to decide who to play first, I might try Hector.
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https://www.epicgames.com/store/en-US/product/a-total-war-saga-troy/home Troy is live on Epic and available via this link.
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Kaal posted:https://www.epicgames.com/store/en-US/product/a-total-war-saga-troy/home People still mad but yes I'm going to click button for a free game and I'll play it and I might even have fun 
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Aug 13, 2020 14:21
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My first time using the epic store and drat is the DL speed slow, it's maxing at less than 2MB/s and dipping as far down as 300kb/s in periods. I don't know if I've ever seen Steam below 4MB/s.
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who else here just downloaded Epic today because they are a shameless whore?
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Insurrectionist posted:My first time using the epic store and drat is the DL speed slow, it's maxing at less than 2MB/s and dipping as far down as 300kb/s in periods. I don't know if I've ever seen Steam below 4MB/s. I'd assume the servers are just stressed. Typically the speed is fine.
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Aug 13, 2020 14:25
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Wtf I spent my whole life thinking Mycenae was in Crete.
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epic games store is genuinely as bad as they say and they haven't improved any aspect of it since launch however I've been playing games on pc game pass and EGS is heaven by comparison. whats there works its just there isnt much there
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Edgar Allen Ho posted:who else here just downloaded Epic today because they are a shameless whore? 
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Aug 13, 2020 14:32
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Edgar Allen Ho posted:who else here just downloaded Epic today because they are a shameless whore? Not me, because it turns out you can redeem the free copy on the website along and I don't particularly feel like downloading anything at the moment.
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Aug 13, 2020 14:41
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How are the diplomacy and family mechanics in Troy?
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Communist Thoughts posted:epic games store is genuinely as bad as they say and they haven't improved any aspect of it since launch I got game pass because it was super cheap and there were some games I wanted to try. And to be fair I guess I had fun with a couple games. Then I realized it was keeping massive install-files in addition to the regular game files and even after uninstalling they were sticking around. Found like 40GB file for Outer Worlds install a month after I had uninstalled the game and it was an enormous pain in the rear end to get rid of, I had to install some kind of cleaner program I think to do it. Also couldn't mod any games since the game pass folders are so protected. So that was the last time I ever use Microsoft's game pass for PC. Utter garbage in every way.
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Baron Porkface posted:Wtf I spent my whole life thinking Mycenae was in Crete. Minoans are what you were thinking of probably. Bronze age inhabitants of Crete and the aegean islands and interestingly distinct from mycenaean or later greeks.
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Did it not check anybody else's HD space before installing? Got my fingers crossed here.
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Communist Thoughts posted:epic games store is genuinely as bad as they say and they haven't improved any aspect of it since launch I mean I'm not that bothered, I haven't spent any money with Epic, I just hoover up every free game they have, but still.
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smug jeebus posted:Did it not check anybody else's HD space before installing? Got my fingers crossed here. Nope, the Epic app never tells you how much space anything takes up. I think there's a way to find it somewhere but it's buried. The download is 16gb which is much lighter than I was expecting.
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