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Jose Oquendo
Jun 20, 2004

At the end of 2018, a study was published by London Metropolitan University showing that certain bacteria, normally present only in intestinal tracts or feces, were found on McDonald's self-service screens.


XBenedict posted:

MLB.TV helps nothing when it comes to local games.

There's cheap and easy ways around that.

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otter
Jul 23, 2007
word.

I guess it depends on "local" in Eugene "local" means Seattle and Oakland/SF. Fortunately, as a Padres fan I get to live out almost all of my team's failure either through mlb.tv or regional sports network apps. Blackout rules should never apply to a service you pay $120/year for. This is why I don't have NBA League Pass.

LastInLine
Mar 15, 2006

Why stay in the Cape when you can be in the WAVE?




Fun Shoe

otter posted:

I guess it depends on "local" in Eugene "local" means Seattle and Oakland/SF. Fortunately, as a Padres fan I get to live out almost all of my team's failure either through mlb.tv or regional sports network apps. Blackout rules should never apply to a service you pay $120/year for. This is why I don't have NBA League Pass.

For League Pass my "local" teams are 730 miles away from each other, with a third team in between that I'm also over a hundred miles away from.

WithoutTheFezOn
Aug 28, 2005
Oh no

This is from a few years ago so it may have changed, but Iowa is in six baseball markets despite not having a MLB team. There were blackouts on home games for the Cubs, White Sox, Twins, Royals, Brewers, and Rockies.

jabro
Mar 25, 2003

July Mock Draft 2014

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WithoutTheFezOn posted:

This is from a few years ago so it may have changed, but Iowa is in six baseball markets despite not having a MLB team. There were blackouts on home games for the Cubs, White Sox, Twins, Royals, Brewers, and Rockies.

That honestly seems like a perk for living in Iowa.

otter
Jul 23, 2007
word.

WithoutTheFezOn posted:

This is from a few years ago so it may have changed, but Iowa is in six baseball markets despite not having a MLB team. There were blackouts on home games for the Cubs, White Sox, Twins, Royals, Brewers, and Rockies.

Let’s be fair, blocking out the white sox is a public service

XBenedict
May 23, 2006

YOUR LIPS SAY 0, BUT YOUR EYES SAY 1.



otter posted:

Let’s be fair, blocking out the white sox is a public service

WithoutTheFezOn
Aug 28, 2005
Oh no

Ho ho ho.

But that also means if you follow another team, every one of their games in those cities are unwatchable.

Dog Faced JoJo
Oct 14, 2004

Woof Woof

otter posted:

Let’s be fair, blocking out the white sox is a public service

I will fight you right now.



Especially considering the WSox TV broadcast team is far and away the best broadcast in baseball.

jabro
Mar 25, 2003

July Mock Draft 2014

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Dog Faced JoJo posted:


Especially considering the WSox TV broadcast team is far and away the best broadcast in baseball.

Go home, Dog Faced JoJo. You’re drunk.

otter
Jul 23, 2007
word.

Dog Faced JoJo posted:

I will fight you right now.

Great! Here, use this bat and you won’t be able to hit anything with it, just like your beloved Sox.
Hey man, I’m a Padres fan. Talk about teams that suck. $300,000,000 to Manny and it did us HOW good last year? At least you can say, “Hey remember when we won that World Series ever?”

savesthedayrocks
Mar 18, 2004


But remember that one time we went far in the playoffs and parlayed that into a new stadium downtown? Good times!

otter
Jul 23, 2007
word.

Right after I graduated high school. Spent that whole summer chasing after the completely wrong girls instead of enjoying more baseball.
the right girls love baseball.
I also remember when Hunter Renfroe* hit the homer off the top of Western Metal Supply.





*I Hate Renfroe because:
2013 CWS. I stood up and yelled in the middle of Wendys when he caught that ball.
Tampa Bay - f that guy.

*I Like Renfroe because:
He started his minor league career 3 1/2 miles from my house playing for the Eugene Ems.
He wasn't Matt Bush - f that guy.

XBenedict
May 23, 2006

YOUR LIPS SAY 0, BUT YOUR EYES SAY 1.



YouTubeTV has reached a deal with Sinclair. Crisis averted.

phosdex
Dec 16, 2005



Tortured By Flan

XBenedict posted:

YouTubeTV has reached a deal with Sinclair. Crisis averted.

Yes Network, Prime Ticket and Fox Sports West have been dropped it seems. New York and some CA residents affected I think?

https://www.reddit.com/r/youtubetv/...ropped_the_yes/

I would guess that dropping those 3 lets Youtube keep their cost to customers the same. Adding those would have come with a price hike?

phosdex fucked around with this message at 21:12 on Mar 5, 2020

jabro
Mar 25, 2003

July Mock Draft 2014

1st PLACE
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XBenedict posted:

YouTubeTV has reached a deal with Sinclair. Crisis averted.

Except they dropped the two most important channels from the deal. My two channels. Prime Ticket and West. They also dropped YES. They killed the two biggest markets.



Edit: Seems the Yankees told MLB that since Youtube TV won't carry their channel then they cant have any of the Yankees games on any nationally broadcasted game either. That is maximum spite right there.

jabro fucked around with this message at 21:04 on Mar 5, 2020

XBenedict
May 23, 2006

YOUR LIPS SAY 0, BUT YOUR EYES SAY 1.



phosdex posted:

Yes Network, Prime Ticket and Fox Sports West have been dropped it seems. New York and some CA residents affected I think?

https://www.reddit.com/r/youtubetv/...ropped_the_yes/

I would guess that dropping those 3 lets Youtube keep their cost to customers the same. Adding those would have come with a price hike?

I'm fine with that. I don't live in those markets and I don't want my sub to increase because gently caress the Yankees. Also, still gently caress Sinclair because they're greedy bitches, who then tried to make it seem like YTTv was the bad guy in all of this for not wanting to pay outrageous prices for the Yankees.

gently caress sports as a business.

GoatSeeGuy
Dec 26, 2003

What if Jerome Walton made me a champion?



Fun Shoe

phosdex posted:

Yes Network, Prime Ticket and Fox Sports West have been dropped it seems. New York and some CA residents affected I think?

https://www.reddit.com/r/youtubetv/...ropped_the_yes/

I would guess that dropping those 3 lets Youtube keep their cost to customers the same. Adding those would have come with a price hike?

Cubs apparently shut out as well since you have to think Sinclair would have wanted to add it to the deal.

otter
Jul 23, 2007
word.

How is it that in 2020 none of these businesses understand their customers' wants?
I did a cursory search and found that 2017 numbers suggest that:
tv advertisers spent $313M on baseball games.
That amounted to 17B views of ads.
So 162 games per team x30 teams / 2 (takes two to tango or play baseball) = 2430 games played (plus all-star, playoffs but since #padres I dont have to worry about that math...) = 7M people per game watching each game. $313M / 2430 = $129K per game / 7M viewers = 18 cents per viewer per game.
If one person watches all 162 games of your team you are an investment of $30 to the MLB and it's advertisers. Obviously that number is going to be distributed out among a lot more people since rarely does any one person watch all 162 regular season games.

My muscle relaxers have kicked in and as far as I can remember where I was going with this is that blackouts are obsolete.
i will sign an affidavit that i'm not going to drive 280 miles to watch the Mariners lose or 520 miles to watch the A's lose.
(side note: I WILL drive 40 miles and buy a ticket to watch the Beavers play (and win, bitches!) and they dont black me out. In fact they're like "Oh hey you can watch it on the Pac12 app or on the Comcast app, or on tv, etc)

EL BROMANCE
Jun 10, 2006
TUBGIRL ENTHUSIAST



Wait til you hear about the 3pm blackout of the whole of the UK for premier league soccer, based solely on the believe that 40 years ago or so that if you show top flight football on TV nobody will go see minor league teams play.

You can literally get better coverage of the premier league in most countries outside the one that it’s played in.

FunOne
Aug 20, 2000
I am a slimey vat of concentrated stupidity



Fun Shoe

otter posted:

How is it that in 2020 none of these businesses understand their customers' wants?
I did a cursory search and found that 2017 numbers suggest that:
tv advertisers spent $313M on baseball games.
That amounted to 17B views of ads.
So 162 games per team x30 teams / 2 (takes two to tango or play baseball) = 2430 games played (plus all-star, playoffs but since #padres I dont have to worry about that math...) = 7M people per game watching each game. $313M / 2430 = $129K per game / 7M viewers = 18 cents per viewer per game.
If one person watches all 162 games of your team you are an investment of $30 to the MLB and it's advertisers. Obviously that number is going to be distributed out among a lot more people since rarely does any one person watch all 162 regular season games.

My muscle relaxers have kicked in and as far as I can remember where I was going with this is that blackouts are obsolete.
i will sign an affidavit that i'm not going to drive 280 miles to watch the Mariners lose or 520 miles to watch the A's lose.
(side note: I WILL drive 40 miles and buy a ticket to watch the Beavers play (and win, bitches!) and they dont black me out. In fact they're like "Oh hey you can watch it on the Pac12 app or on the Comcast app, or on tv, etc)

Someone is definitely doing the analysis at MLB:

https://cdn.oreillystatic.com/en/as...resentation.pdf

XBenedict
May 23, 2006

YOUR LIPS SAY 0, BUT YOUR EYES SAY 1.



FunOne posted:

Someone is definitely doing the analysis at MLB:

https://cdn.oreillystatic.com/en/as...resentation.pdf

Mods, please change my name to Team Avidity Metric

otter
Jul 23, 2007
word.

Wow. Seriously, think for a second how much data they must have on porn by now.

Island Nation
Jun 20, 2006
Trust No One

otter posted:

Wow. Seriously, think for a second how much data they must have on porn by now.

Not with Disney owning BAMTech they would

Also, MLB legitimately thinks a fan of the Mets is a fan of Mike Trout?! They must using the money from Pepsi to pay for coke.

otter
Jul 23, 2007
word.

I’m just talking about the ability that they have these days to track and compile statistics on everything that you do, see, where your mouse hovers, what ads pique your interest, etc. every industry must be compiling statistics in a similar way and figuring out what each segment of the population is worth pandering to and reshaping their products accordingly. Which is why there’s 3 million movie “parodys” and no 3D bbw porn to speak of. Dammit.

EL BROMANCE
Jun 10, 2006
TUBGIRL ENTHUSIAST



If you buy an old xfinity or U-verse cable box off eBay and hook it up to existing lines in a property, but with no active tv service, do you get anything these days? Back in the UK I would get an array of channels I could get over the air, just with an error on changing channel that I could OK out of. Similar here, or just dead air?

I’ve got both hookups here, currently an At&T subscriber and thinking of dropping down to just fiber internet when my year is up. I have a hdhomerun but internal antenna isn’t powerful enough, so at some point will get a real one hooked up.

phosdex
Dec 16, 2005



Tortured By Flan

You may get lower channels that are not encrypted. Cable signals for the most part are encrypted and the boxes are addressable. The cable co head-end talks to the box to verify your account is entitled to a channel.

EL BROMANCE
Jun 10, 2006
TUBGIRL ENTHUSIAST



If that essentially means my fox, cbs, nbc etc affils then that does me fine for the most part tbh.

E: altho I’m guessing maybe only the sd versions might be in the clear, which would be a hard pass.

EL BROMANCE fucked around with this message at 02:15 on Mar 13, 2020

Rastor
Jun 2, 2001



The cable box will not do anything without a valid paid cable account, do not buy an old cable box.

It's possible a TV tuner will find unencrypted channels if the cable is attached directly to it; it depends on how the local provider system is set up.

EL BROMANCE
Jun 10, 2006
TUBGIRL ENTHUSIAST



Thanks for the clarification, external antenna it shall be.

I remember when I mentioned on DigitalSpy in passing that I had a secondary box hooked up to a spare outlet back home, and they lost their drat minds I was daring to receive channels I would receive free OTA anyway. From a company I was paying $100/mo to, but didn’t have their multiroom service.

Three Olives
Apr 10, 2005

olives of shit


It's also possible that your TV has a QAM tuner and your local channels are transmitted unencrypted over cable and could be received natively.

It's HIGHLY unlikely on both fronts but it is possible.

EL BROMANCE
Jun 10, 2006
TUBGIRL ENTHUSIAST



1 out of 1 so far...

quote:

TV tuner: Analog (NTSC/PAL/SECAM), ATSC, Clear QAM

I’ll have to dig up some local info on the status of the local channels.

E: not getting much in the way of hits outside of 10 years ago. I could try hooking it up when im next behind the tv and can access the wires but I’m gonna guess it’s a no.

EL BROMANCE fucked around with this message at 03:51 on Mar 13, 2020

Astro7x
Aug 4, 2004
Thinks It's All Real

Comcast is lifting data caps for 60 days apparently...

https://coloradosun.com/2020/03/13/...st-coronavirus/

“The network is built for this,” Comcast says.

So when the Network performs well under the most extreme conditions, are they going to put data caps back?

TheWevel
Apr 14, 2002
Send Help; Trapped in Stupid Factory

Astro7x posted:

Comcast is lifting data caps for 60 days apparently...

https://coloradosun.com/2020/03/13/...st-coronavirus/

“The network is built for this,” Comcast says.

So when the Network performs well under the most extreme conditions, are they going to put data caps back?

Everybody gets opted in to an “unlimited bandwidth” fee with an equal discount, then the discount goes away after 60 days without Comcast telling anyone.

Matt Zerella
Oct 7, 2002


TheWevel posted:

Everybody gets opted in to an “unlimited bandwidth” fee with an equal discount, then the discount goes away after 60 days without Comcast telling anyone.

Bingo

Three Olives
Apr 10, 2005

olives of shit


Astro7x posted:

Comcast is lifting data caps for 60 days apparently...

https://coloradosun.com/2020/03/13/...st-coronavirus/

“The network is built for this,” Comcast says.

So when the Network performs well under the most extreme conditions, are they going to put data caps back?

It's really something that all these companies that have said for YEARS that data caps are absolutely necessary for network stability, absolutely, are suddenly completely fine lifting them in a time of increased use when it looks like there is a big chance of serious regulatory change because the champions of the free market completely poo poo the bed in an actual crisis.

Rolabi Wizenard
Sep 18, 2005

Make the Lakers Great Again


I don't know poo poo enough to bolster this hope, but I hope that Musk's Starlink system will be ubiquitous enough to compete across the board and make Comcast and their parallel monopoly partners in Time Warner or who tf they are will have to compete. Like we all hoped for Google Fiber.

Proteus Jones
Feb 28, 2013





Hair Elf

Rolabi Wizenard posted:

I don't know poo poo enough to bolster this hope, but I hope that Musk's Starlink system will be ubiquitous enough to compete across the board and make Comcast and their parallel monopoly partners in Time Warner or who tf they are will have to compete. Like we all hoped for Google Fiber.

It won’t be.

He’s already walking back expectations.

Nitr0
Aug 17, 2005

IT'S FREE REAL ESTATE


Rolabi Wizenard posted:

I don't know poo poo enough to bolster this hope, but I hope that Musk's Starlink system will be ubiquitous enough to compete across the board and make Comcast and their parallel monopoly partners in Time Warner or who tf they are will have to compete. Like we all hoped for Google Fiber.

You are clueless. There’s no gigabit magic satellite coming to you anytime soon, and no satellite system is going to make people switch from fiber / cable.

Stop being a weirdo and look up how bits/hertz and spectrum management and general physics work.

Not to mention all the normal stuff like there’s not enough boosters, sats are still not getting to proper altitude, papa Elon keeps saying it will be enough to stream hdtv and play video games. Whooptie dick that’s like 7Mb/s. Of course low latency is gonna be nice but this won’t be some magic cure all you’re leaving land based cable providers so you can suckle at the teat of Tesla and claim you’re helping society get to mars.

Nitr0 fucked around with this message at 18:56 on Mar 15, 2020

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jabro
Mar 25, 2003

July Mock Draft 2014

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Nitr0 posted:

You are clueless. There’s no gigabit magic satellite coming to you anytime soon, and no satellite system is going to make people switch from fiber / cable.

Stop being a weirdo and look up how bits/hertz and spectrum management and general physics work.

Not to mention all the normal stuff like there’s not enough boosters, sats are still not getting to proper altitude, papa Elon keeps saying it will be enough to stream hdtv and play video games. Whooptie dick that’s like 7Mb/s. Of course low latency is gonna be nice but this won’t be some magic cure all you’re leaving land based cable providers so you can suckle at the teat of Tesla and claim you’re helping society get to mars.

Show me on the model x where Elon touched you.

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