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bagrada
Aug 4, 2007

The Demogorgon is tired of your silly human bickering!

D-Pad posted:

Now I just need some 40k prestige TV on HBO or something.

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2020/07/02/interrogator-announced/

All I could think about when re-reading early Gaunt's Ghosts was how badass it would be as a miniseries, military horror in the vein of Aliens. Is the Eisenhorn tv show getting anywhere? Google brought up Frank Spotnitz talking about it in May, and I'm sure the pandemic's not helping things, but I'm not going to get excited until I see a trailer.

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ColdIronsBound
Nov 4, 2008
Carrion Throne lined up, thanks for the recommendations

Biplane
Jul 18, 2005

Mars trilogy is rad but there are so many lore bits it leaves dangling in the wind with no resolution

Schadenboner
Aug 15, 2011

by Shine
I like Word Bearers because they're the loving worst and wish to read about this, the shittiest legion (even worse than the loving Wuffs), being lovely (while ironically enough also being the kid at the parade who points out the Emperor's new clothes were, in fact, not things).

I think I read the first Word Bearers novel, not sure why I didn't read the other ones because I remember it being p.deece bolter-porn but I'm really more interested in any anthopology about Colchis.

Is Lorgar: Bearer of the Word generally considered to be an goode booke?

Also: same Q for The First Heretic?

:tipshat:

The Rat
Aug 29, 2004

You will find no one to help you here. Beth DuClare has been dissected and placed in cryonic storage.

First Heretic is fantastic, as is the follow up Betrayer.

Khizan
Jul 30, 2013


Read Know No Fear by Abnett between The First Heretic and Betrayer.

Foxtrot_13
Oct 31, 2013
Ask me about my love of genocide denial!

Biplane posted:

Mars trilogy is rad but there are so many lore bits it leaves dangling in the wind with no resolution

Second for the Mars trilogy. If you like batshit crazy mechanical transhumaism this will be your bag.

dingo with a joint
Jan 12, 2019

wrong cow

Khizan posted:

Read Know No Fear by Abnett between The First Heretic and Betrayer.

Even more so, read ADB's novella 'Aurelian' directly after 'The First Heretic'. It's basically the epilogue to TFH, and I'd say is important to read before Betrayer. The only place that Aurelian is currently available in print is in the 'Eye of Terra' HH anthology, though it is sold separately as an ebook. I'd love to see an omnibus of First Heretic+Aurelian+Betrayer. I reckon that's the best through-story in all of 40k novels, other than the Night Lords trilogy.

'Know No Fear' focuses on a different legion (Ultramarines) and has a different author (Abnett). The Word Bearers are the antagonists in this one. It does absolutely cover what takes place between First Heretic/Aurelian and Betrayer, just from the other side of the heresy-fence.

VanSandman
Feb 16, 2011
SWAP.AVI EXCHANGER

dingo with a joint posted:

Even more so, read ADB's novella 'Aurelian' directly after 'The First Heretic'. It's basically the epilogue to TFH, and I'd say is important to read before Betrayer. The only place that Aurelian is currently available in print is in the 'Eye of Terra' HH anthology, though it is sold separately as an ebook. I'd love to see an omnibus of First Heretic+Aurelian+Betrayer. I reckon that's the best through-story in all of 40k novels, other than the Night Lords trilogy.

'Know No Fear' focuses on a different legion (Ultramarines) and has a different author (Abnett). The Word Bearers are the antagonists in this one. It does absolutely cover what takes place between First Heretic/Aurelian and Betrayer, just from the other side of the heresy-fence.

The Butcher's Nails audio drama bridges the gap between Aurelian and Betrayer. It's really good, too.

Biplane
Jul 18, 2005

Can you convert it to text for me though

Khizan
Jul 30, 2013


It's in the Angron anthology along with two other short stories about Angron. 2 are by ADB and one is by the guy who did the Shira Calpurnia books.

Trast
Oct 20, 2010

Three games, thousands of playthroughs. 90% of the players don't know I exist. Still a redhead saving the galaxy with a [Right Hook].

:edi:

bagrada posted:

All I could think about when re-reading early Gaunt's Ghosts was how badass it would be as a miniseries, military horror in the vein of Aliens. Is the Eisenhorn tv show getting anywhere? Google brought up Frank Spotnitz talking about it in May, and I'm sure the pandemic's not helping things, but I'm not going to get excited until I see a trailer.

The pandemic shut television and movie production down completely. And as things drag on we're going to see shows get cancelled or seasons shortened to cut costs. New shows like the Eisenhorn project might be the first to go.

kanonvandekempen
Mar 14, 2009

D-Pad posted:

There is a good ebook bundle up today. $17 for 26 books at the top tier. Lot of good titles if you don't have them

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2020/07/01/a-brilliant-book-bundle-from-fanatical/

When you get this, be sure to go for the tier 3 level so you can enjoy Battle for the Abyss.

Chiwie
Oct 21, 2010

DROP YOUR COAT AND GRAB YOUR TOES, I'LL SHOW YOU WHERE THE WILD GOOSE GOES!!!!
https://www.goonhammer.com/an-interview-with-aaron-dembski-bowden/

Pretty good stuff in there for anyone that likes the books.

D-Pad
Jun 28, 2006

Trast posted:

The pandemic shut television and movie production down completely. And as things drag on we're going to see shows get cancelled or seasons shortened to cut costs. New shows like the Eisenhorn project might be the first to go.

Eisenhorn was only in the very early stages, I don't even think there was a script yet. So it should be safe. I also believe GW is seriously committed to taking a big step into visual media. The new management has really changed the company and is intent on expanding it into a much wider arena. GW stock was one of the very top performing British stocks in the last decade. They are printing money and in a prime position to take a big step like this. I seriously doubt the back off at this stage.

Arc Hammer
Mar 4, 2013

Got any deathsticks?
I wonder how long before GW decides to launch Warhammer streaming service.

Fallen Hamprince
Nov 12, 2016

Arcsquad12 posted:

I wonder how long before GW decides to launch Warhammer streaming service.

Baby yoda but it's a Squat

Kharn_The_Betrayer
Nov 15, 2013


Fun Shoe

Fallen Hamprince posted:

Baby yoda but it's a Scrunt

ftfy

Z the IVth
Jan 28, 2009

The trouble with your "expendable machines"
Fun Shoe

Fallen Hamprince posted:

Baby yoda but it's a Squat

The baby has 3 arms and no hair.

BoneMonkey
Jul 25, 2008

I am happy for you.

Chiwie posted:

https://www.goonhammer.com/an-interview-with-aaron-dembski-bowden/

Pretty good stuff in there for anyone that likes the books.

This is a pro-click.

Miguel Prado
Nov 5, 2008

Don't worry, like they say " It's all good! "

Saturnine releases on the 11th of July!

D-Pad
Jun 28, 2006

So I got signed Collector's Edition copies of Harlequin and Chaos Child, the 2nd and 3rd books of the Inquisition War trilogy on the way. They were cheap on Abe Books. The first 40k books released, before there even was a Black Library.

Unfortunately, the first book, Inquisitor, only ever had a paperback release, but I contacted Ian Watson and he said he would be happy to sign a copy and mail it back with instructions on how to get it to him! I figure I will go ahead and pick up a copy of Space Marine for him to sign as well. He's 77 so he might bite it soon so I might as well do it all in one go. I'll post pictures of Harlequin and Chaos Child when they get here as they are gloriously ugly 90s covers/art.

Syncopated
Oct 21, 2010

D-Pad posted:

So I got signed Collector's Edition copies of Harlequin and Chaos Child, the 2nd and 3rd books of the Inquisition War trilogy on the way. They were cheap on Abe Books. The first 40k books released, before there even was a Black Library.

Unfortunately, the first book, Inquisitor, only ever had a paperback release, but I contacted Ian Watson and he said he would be happy to sign a copy and mail it back with instructions on how to get it to him! I figure I will go ahead and pick up a copy of Space Marine for him to sign as well. He's 77 so he might bite it soon so I might as well do it all in one go. I'll post pictures of Harlequin and Chaos Child when they get here as they are gloriously ugly 90s covers/art.

That’s really cool. I haven’t read the books, they’re supposed to be weird good right, but are they good good?

BoneMonkey
Jul 25, 2008

I am happy for you.

Listened to spears of the emperor and rites of passage. Both of them were really good. I wish I had listened to lords of silence instead of reading it. I think I would of enjoyed it a lot more. I also read the cawl book, the great work. It was alright but it felt a bit like a book in a bigger narrative rather than its own thing like spears and rites.

Arc Hammer
Mar 4, 2013

Got any deathsticks?
So Games Workshop made a big mistake and had noted racist piece of garbage Arch Warhammer promote the Warhammer World of Warships crossover. Good news is they recognized they hosed up and put out a statement. Honestly surprised they made that screw-up after they condemned him a month back when they made their inclusivity statement

Xenomrph
Dec 9, 2005

AvP Nerd/Fanboy/Shill



Arcsquad12 posted:

So Games Workshop made a big mistake and had noted racist piece of garbage Arch Warhammer promote the Warhammer World of Warships crossover. Good news is they recognized they hosed up and put out a statement. Honestly surprised they made that screw-up after they condemned him a month back when they made their inclusivity statement

Where did this happen? Also where did they condemn him the first time?

Also I didn’t know Arch Warhammer was a racist shitheel but he always rubbed me the wrong way anyway.

Lobster God
Nov 5, 2008

Arcsquad12 posted:

So Games Workshop made a big mistake and had noted racist piece of garbage Arch Warhammer promote the Warhammer World of Warships crossover. Good news is they recognized they hosed up and put out a statement. Honestly surprised they made that screw-up after they condemned him a month back when they made their inclusivity statement

https://twitter.com/WorldofWarships/status/1278984829242085377?s=20

Sounds like this wasn't GW's gently caress up

PantsOptional
Dec 27, 2012

All I wanna do is make you bounce

Arcsquad12 posted:

So Games Workshop made a big mistake and had noted racist piece of garbage Arch Warhammer promote the Warhammer World of Warships crossover. Good news is they recognized they hosed up and put out a statement. Honestly surprised they made that screw-up after they condemned him a month back when they made their inclusivity statement

No, GW explicitly told World of Warships not to work with Arch and WoW did it anyway.

GW also took legal action against Arch for the “Warhammer” portion of his name and now he can’t use it any more.

GW may not be a saintly and amazing company but they weren’t the ones who hosed up by workin with actual Nazis here.

Marin Karin
Jul 29, 2011

What are you, compared to my magnificence?
I thought it was some intern fuckup by GW, but good on them for being so uniformly staunch on their stance against him. Sad that not willing to work with a literal nazi is a position most companies won't take.

Arquinsiel
Jun 1, 2006

"There is no such thing as society. There are individual men and women, and there are families. And no government can do anything except through people, and people must look to themselves first."

God Bless Margaret Thatcher
God Bless England
RIP My Iron Lady
They were poo poo to work for back in the day and there are lots of lovely immature jokes in the fluff, but at least they are trying to be less poo poo these days.

D-Pad
Jun 28, 2006

Syncopated posted:

That’s really cool. I haven’t read the books, they’re supposed to be weird good right, but are they good good?

I enjoyed them. They are batshit. Space Marine has a scene where the space Marines board a tyranid bio ship by shooting their drop pod through it's rear end in a top hat.

Arc Hammer
Mar 4, 2013

Got any deathsticks?

Ah, I got it mixed up. I thought it was GW making the statement because they had the inclusivity thing a month back that turned Arch into a frothing shitbag.

Arquinsiel
Jun 1, 2006

"There is no such thing as society. There are individual men and women, and there are families. And no government can do anything except through people, and people must look to themselves first."

God Bless Margaret Thatcher
God Bless England
RIP My Iron Lady
A friend showed me his reaction to it and I said he was just angry because he was being called out by virtue of being a fascist, but I am :allears: as gently caress to learn that GW have actually blacklisted the little shitler.

Shockeh
Feb 24, 2009

Now be a dear and
fuck the fuck off.
What's best about is GW is taking a stronger stance than most companies are managing, because they're being explicit. It's easy to say 'We stand with BLM' or whatever, that cops you some flak off fuckwhistles but you'll coast by, and they'll come buy your Product anyway. GW have out and out been saying 'No, gently caress nazis'. One is supporting a side, the other is condemning the other side, and that's harder for a company with public shareholders to swallow.

So right now, Good Fuckin' poo poo GW.

IshmaelZarkov
Jun 20, 2013

Because I love seeing toxic elements of the community get dunked on and have no idea aboy this Arch Warhammer guy, is there a thread somewhere that I can learn what level of shitheel he is in order to enjoy this more?

Arc Hammer
Mar 4, 2013

Got any deathsticks?

IshmaelZarkov posted:

Because I love seeing toxic elements of the community get dunked on and have no idea aboy this Arch Warhammer guy, is there a thread somewhere that I can learn what level of shitheel he is in order to enjoy this more?

To make a long story that doesn't deserve to be told short: Arch Warhammer is an rear end in a top hat youtuber who got big by making lore videos about Warhammer and Warhammer 40K, basically being the 40K wiki in spoken form. He's a notable racist who has had multiple instances of his public discord screenshotted where he's called for the deaths of jews, blacks, gays and anyone he considers an SJW. If you've ever looked up a video on a piece of 40K lore, he's probably been the first pick on youtube's algorithm. He sits in a peculiar crossover between fascist Total War fans and fascist 40K fans, since he's been blacklisted by Creative Assembly for his racist comments, notably to the point where the previous community manager for Creative Assembly's last words in that position were to tell Arch to go gently caress himself.

When the Black Lives Matter movement sparked up again with the George Floyd Murder, Games Workshop openly declared their support for BLM and told the racist part of their community that they're not welcome and can gently caress off back to whatever hole they crawled out of. Arch threw a hissy fit, which he's done a lot of in the past year. The Warhammer Adventures kids books and GW's overall effort to be more inclusive pissed him off because they were becoming the SJWs he hates and dumbing down the super serious grimdark HARD MEN MAKE HARD CHOICES CATHOLIC SPACE NAZIS ARE THE BEST misrepresentation that 40K has been accused of for decades with varying degrees of validity. He's openly harassed tabletop competitors and streamers who are gay or transgender and he's been more than willing to set his sycophantic hatemob of followers on people he doesn't like.

In essence, he's a Skaven neonazi in human skin and the more he gets blacklisted and deplatformed the better. If you want, here's a video of the discussion around Arch and a link to the reddit thread where several of his discord comments were posted. As you can imagine, a highly visible individual shouting blatantly racist and homophobic comments is not a good look for any company's fan community.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SG3Q_HzUVZg

If you want a lore video about Warhammer, you have far better options. MajorKill is a not-so-serious warhammer youtuber, though he may strain you depending on your tolerance for australian casual swearing. I thing Luetin09 is supposed to be decent? I can't say I've watched much of his stuff to make an opinion. Kirioth TV and Chapter Master Valrak are good for actual tabletop news and community projects, respectively.

Arc Hammer fucked around with this message at 02:52 on Jul 6, 2020

IshmaelZarkov
Jun 20, 2013


Thanks! That guy really is an rear end in a top hat.

mllaneza
Apr 28, 2007

Veteran, Bermuda Triangle Expeditionary Force, 1993-1952




Arcsquad12 posted:

If you want a lore video about Warhammer, you have far better options.

Or, just watch If The Emperor Had A Text To Speech Device, and assume that all of that is canon. Their take on Magnus certainly should be.

Galvanik
Feb 28, 2013

Speaking of lore, I just found out dogs went extinct at some point in the setting, but were recreated Jurassic Park style by the ad mech.

Doggos with bionic legs and tiny helmets scratches an itch I didn't know I had with 40k.

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Arc Hammer
Mar 4, 2013

Got any deathsticks?
Cyber Mastiffs are the best bois.

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