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^burtle
Jul 17, 2001

God of Boomin'



I think it is just their new pre-order designation. I’ve got a few of those on some comics.

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Arbite
Nov 4, 2009





Arcsquad12 posted:

Killing with kindness is a level of sick fuckery worthy of the Dark Eldar.

I liked it, especially the turnaround at the end. Looks like the Khan made a friend or two.

Count Thrashula
Jun 1, 2003

Death is nothing compared to vindication.
Buglord
I can't remember where I heard it, but I recall hearing that GW preorders ship out about a month before third party preorders.

Edit-- maybe it was a week... I dunno

Count Thrashula fucked around with this message at 16:08 on Oct 11, 2020

Count Thrashula
Jun 1, 2003

Death is nothing compared to vindication.
Buglord
I'm nearing the end of Belisarius Cawl: The Great Work and God drat it's a good book. Cawl is such a lovable rear end in a top hat. The time skipping gets a little confusing but it really gives a sense of how vast and at times tragic the Archmagos Dominus' life is.

mllaneza
Apr 28, 2007

Veteran, Bermuda Triangle Expeditionary Force, 1993-1952




NUMBER 1 FULCI FAN posted:

I'm nearing the end of Belisarius Cawl: The Great Work and God drat it's a good book. Cawl is such a lovable rear end in a top hat. The time skipping gets a little confusing but it really gives a sense of how vast and at times tragic the Archmagos Dominus' life is.

Yeah, that was fun. I just did that, Avenging Son, and now I'm nearing the end of The Regents Shadow.

Goddamn but Avenging Son is good. As a novel it works, and as a pile of cool 40k stuff it's just about peerless. Good fights at every scale, interesting new characters, tidbits of life on Terra. Anyone putting it off should move on it.

notaspy
Mar 22, 2009

I am enjoying reading The Infinite and The Divine. About a quarter of the way through but it's a fun romo so far.

It reminds me of the old title of the Japanese Politics Thread - Old men loving each other over.

One thing I would say is the writer isn't very good at bolter, sorry, Gauss porn. It's pretty perfunctory, but I can dig that as I just want to read about old nerds being dicks.

Immanentized
Mar 17, 2009

notaspy posted:

I am enjoying reading The Infinite and The Divine. About a quarter of the way through but it's a fun romo so far.

It reminds me of the old title of the Japanese Politics Thread - Old men loving each other over.

One thing I would say is the writer isn't very good at bolter, sorry, Gauss porn. It's pretty perfunctory, but I can dig that as I just want to read about old nerds being dicks.

I mean, there really isn't a TON of action with necron weapons- Indomitus and Dead Man Walking are good at showing this too. Against non-astartes, Necron fights are over in like, maybe 2/3 volleys?

Guyver
Dec 5, 2006

No, notaspy is right. Finished Infinite and Divine last night and Rath is not good at protracted battle scenes. Short fights between two characters or a small group is fine but the two big battles were kind of boring.

Other than that the book was great. I loved Orikan and Trazyn's feud and their sniping at each other, necron society and Trazyn's love of stealing and learning everything.

D-Pad
Jun 28, 2006

Mechanicus is on sale for $10 right now on steam and more than worth it at that price. It's a great little strategy type game and well written too.

Schadenboner
Aug 15, 2011

by Shine

D-Pad posted:

Mechanicus is on sale for $10 right now on steam and more than worth it at that price. It's a great little strategy type game and well written too.

It's free-to-play this weekend, it looks like too?

MMAgCh
Aug 15, 2001
I am the poet,
The prophet of the pit
Like a hollow-point bullet
Straight to the head
I never missed...you
Last I checked Mechanicus had some balance issues in that you'll have a rough time starting out but things get really easy once you've expanded/upgraded your roster a bit. It is a pretty decent game in general though, definitely more so than the average 40k title. (This perhaps in spite of Ben Counter's involvement, even. :v:)

Oh yeah, it's got some great music, too.

Improbable Lobster
Jan 6, 2012

What is the Matrix 🌐? We just don't know 😎.


Buglord

MMAgCh posted:

Last I checked Mechanicus had some balance issues in that you'll have a rough time starting out but things get really easy once you've expanded/upgraded your roster a bit. It is a pretty decent game in general though, definitely more so than the average 40k title. (This perhaps in spite of Ben Counter's involvement, even. :v:)

Oh yeah, it's got some great music, too.

It's got that XCOM style difficulty curve where it starts out hard because of how weak your dudes are and gets easier as you gain more abilities to wreck poo poo. Excellent game IMHO

Campbell
Jun 7, 2000
Not a warham player but have been totally sucked into the Gaunts Ghosts series lately. Grimdark Band of Brothers has been far more engaging that I was expecting. Just finished Straight Silver and these really seem to be using historical battles as a backdrop - is there an official list of what matches up to what?

Arquinsiel
Jun 1, 2006

"There is no such thing as society. There are individual men and women, and there are families. And no government can do anything except through people, and people must look to themselves first."

God Bless Margaret Thatcher
God Bless England
RIP My Iron Lady
Nothing "official", but it's pretty obvious that Necropolis is Stalingrad, Straight Silver is the Western Front, Double Eagle is the Battle of Britain (with aircraft carriers, in a desert...), Guns of Tanith is Where Eagles Dare. Other than that they're kind of harder to place TBH.

Arc Hammer
Mar 4, 2013

Got any deathsticks?
Ghostmaker's main theater of Monthax is the Burma campaign.

Traitor General is French Resistance guerilla warfare

The Armour of Contempt is then, in turn, the Normandy Landings

Urdesh from Warmaster and Anarch has elements of the siege of Leningrad

mllaneza
Apr 28, 2007

Veteran, Bermuda Triangle Expeditionary Force, 1993-1952




How about the incredibly badass tank battle in Sabbat Martyr ? It has to be WW2, probably Western Front, but I can't place it.

Arc Hammer
Mar 4, 2013

Got any deathsticks?

mllaneza posted:

How about the incredibly badass tank battle in Sabbat Martyr ? It has to be WW2, probably Western Front, but I can't place it.

Are you thinking of Honour Guard? That's the one set in bocage country where they have the massive tank assault on Pater Sin's fortified town as they head for the monastery. A lot of the Sabbat Worlds are based on various aspects of France.

Arc Hammer fucked around with this message at 02:57 on Oct 17, 2020

Gravitas Shortfall
Jul 17, 2007

Utility is seven-eighths Proximity.


mllaneza posted:

How about the incredibly badass tank battle in Sabbat Martyr ? It has to be WW2, probably Western Front, but I can't place it.

Kursk, maybe? Specifically, the battle of Prokhorovka?

Arc Hammer
Mar 4, 2013

Got any deathsticks?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rDEDcE9Z430

drat look at them Scorpions.

Schadenboner
Aug 15, 2011

by Shine

Arquinsiel posted:

Double Eagle is the Battle of Britain (with aircraft carriers, in a desert...),

Is the tank stuff from Double Eagle not supposed to be North Africa? Like, the whole book is 1940/41 or some poo poo?

Arquinsiel
Jun 1, 2006

"There is no such thing as society. There are individual men and women, and there are families. And no government can do anything except through people, and people must look to themselves first."

God Bless Margaret Thatcher
God Bless England
RIP My Iron Lady

Schadenboner posted:

Is the tank stuff from Double Eagle not supposed to be North Africa? Like, the whole book is 1940/41 or some poo poo?
Actually that would track with the air combat too. Roald Dahl's books have him crossing the Mediterranean pretty regularly while in combat.

Schadenboner
Aug 15, 2011

by Shine

Arquinsiel posted:

Actually that would track with the air combat too. Roald Dahl's books have him crossing the Mediterranean pretty regularly while in combat.

Going Solo is under-rated af.

bagrada
Aug 4, 2007

The Demogorgon is tired of your silly human bickering!

I finished my audiobook of Rites of Passage. It grew on me a lot, and needs to be a movie or tv show starring Shohreh Aghdashloo. I had another audible token so I immediately threw it at Brutal Kunnin' after listening to the sample. I prefer the more serious parts of 40k (hah), but da orks are still growing on me. The ork's description of a trip through the warp in that sample was great.

Inspector_666
Oct 7, 2003

benny with the good hair

bagrada posted:

I finished my audiobook of Rites of Passage. It grew on me a lot, and needs to be a movie or tv show starring Shohreh Aghdashloo.

I read it on my Kindle and she's all I could picture for Chetta too, I feel like that has to be a common thing, right?

Arquinsiel
Jun 1, 2006

"There is no such thing as society. There are individual men and women, and there are families. And no government can do anything except through people, and people must look to themselves first."

God Bless Margaret Thatcher
God Bless England
RIP My Iron Lady
I didn't, but I should have.

D-Pad
Jun 28, 2006

She'd be the absolute best cast for Chetta. I'm glad more goons are getting around to reading Rites of Passage. It's a truly great 40k book and even better for not being the usual type of story and dealing with an unexplored area of the lore. Chetta is exactly the type of character I expect most goons would love.

I will also suggest Brutal Kunnin'. Brooks did a great job with it as I cannot imagine it is easy to write an entire novel from the Ork POV. Most BL authors could not pull it off. It's much better than the Necron book we just got, which I just finished. The lore in Infinite and the Divine is very interesting but the writing is middling at best. Definitely read it if you are interested in Necrons, but otherwise not really worth it.

Miguel Prado
Nov 5, 2008

Don't worry, like they say " It's all good! "

Brutal Kunnin is great! Starts off a bit generic but gets really good. In addition to mechanicus and orks there is a third non imperial faction also participating which I thought was fun.

MrNemo
Aug 26, 2010

"I just love beeting off"

I've almost finished Cadia Stands and my god this book is dull. I am actually a bit unsure as to why, the content is epic and the basic story beats are well chosen and I'd even say the character archetypes feel like good choices but... the prose is not even workmanlike. It just feels like stuff happening. I'm actually kind of impressed that I can read the tale of Abaddon's Black Fleet tearing Cadia apart and the Warp reaching out to twist and tear apart millions or a triumphal sally out to hit Traitors in a planet wide, coordinate counter-strike and just be :geno:

Pershing
Feb 21, 2010

John "Black Jack" Pershing
Hard Fucking Core

What would be a good story collection or novel to get into the Ordo Mechanicus? I've only gotten into Warhammer recently by playing the Inquisition: Martyr and Mechanicus books. I like the faction and would like to read more.

FWIW, the only Warhammer books I've read so far are A Thousand Sons (which I love) and Inheritance (which I couldn't stand).

Schadenboner
Aug 15, 2011

by Shine

Pershing posted:

What would be a good story collection or novel to get into the Ordo Mechanicus? I've only gotten into Warhammer recently by playing the Inquisition: Martyr and Mechanicus books. I like the faction and would like to read more.

FWIW, the only Warhammer books I've read so far are A Thousand Sons (which I love) and Inheritance (which I couldn't stand).

If you want Titan Legions then Abnett's Titanicus is the obvious choice, it shares continuity with the Gaunt's Ghosts series/saga/cycle/whatever but doesn't require having read them* (although the Gaunt's Ghosts books are pretty drat good) and I liked it a lot. The Lords of Mars series by McNeill is good, focused around an Explorator Fleet. I liked McNeill's Mechanicum (Horus Heresy #9) but I usually hear that it was bad, actually?

Flesh and Steel (the newest Warhammer Crime book) is apparently a buddy cop two-hander between a Probator and a Tech Priest so that might "scratch the itch" (as the kids say these days) too?

*: I feel like Titanicus is way way less Ghosts-dependent than Double Eagle, for example.

Schadenboner fucked around with this message at 17:50 on Oct 20, 2020

Khizan
Jul 30, 2013


Schadenboner posted:

*: I feel like Titanicus is way way less Ghosts-dependent than Double Eagle, for example.

Titanicus requires no real Ghosts knowledge at all, the involvement in the setting is tangential at best.

bagrada
Aug 4, 2007

The Demogorgon is tired of your silly human bickering!

D-Pad posted:

I will also suggest Brutal Kunnin'. Brooks did a great job with it as I cannot imagine it is easy to write an entire novel from the Ork POV. Most BL authors could not pull it off.

Just to clarify, it's not entirely from the Ork POV. I admit to a moment of horror while listening to the audiobook when, after the first great chapter with ork narration and many ork voices, the second chapter started with a ear mangling burst of talking in machine code. That went on just long enough I was starting to worry the whole 20+ minute chapter would be done that way.

I've got one audible token left. If nothing more exciting comes out by the time I finish Brutal Kunnin', is Dawn of Fire better than Indomitus?

Schadenboner
Aug 15, 2011

by Shine

bagrada posted:

Just to clarify, it's not entirely from the Ork POV. I admit to a moment of horror while listening to the audiobook when, after the first great chapter with ork narration and many ork voices, the second chapter started with a ear mangling burst of talking in machine code. That went on just long enough I was starting to worry the whole 20+ minute chapter would be done that way.

I've got one audible token left. If nothing more exciting comes out by the time I finish Brutal Kunnin', is Dawn of Fire better than Indomitus?

You've heard Dredge Runners?

bagrada
Aug 4, 2007

The Demogorgon is tired of your silly human bickering!

Schadenboner posted:

You've heard Dredge Runners?

I forgot about that one. It's pretty short though so maybe I'll buy that and throw my token at Wraight's Bloodlines instead of the primaris bolter porns.

Schadenboner
Aug 15, 2011

by Shine

bagrada posted:

I forgot about that one. It's pretty short though so maybe I'll buy that and throw my token at Wraight's Bloodlines instead of the primaris bolter porns.

I was thinking audio dramas-only. Bloodlines is extremely good, if you haven't read it then burn the Audible credit on it.

Biplane
Jul 18, 2005

There's a really good mechanicus story called Kings by Matthew Farrer, in the Sabbat Worlds collection. I think maybe it's a follow up to another story, or there's a follow up to this. But it's very good.

Arquinsiel
Jun 1, 2006

"There is no such thing as society. There are individual men and women, and there are families. And no government can do anything except through people, and people must look to themselves first."

God Bless Margaret Thatcher
God Bless England
RIP My Iron Lady
The Headstone and the Hammerstone Kings, followed by The Inheritor King. It's not so much Mechanicus as it is what happens when Dark Mechanicum toys are left unsupervised.

D-Pad
Jun 28, 2006

Dawn of Fire is excellent although I can't speak for the audiobook quality. Bloodlines is also excellent. Indomitus was bad. Dawn of Fire is more big picture lore stuff centering around Guilliman and his work starting the Indomitus Crusade. Bloodlines is a detective novel unconcerned with the wider galaxy and lore that happens to be set in 40k.

Both are great. Get the one that feels more like you want to read and then get the other later. I second Dredge Runners. It's a really great audio drama, but too short to waste your credit on, I'd buy it.

Arquinsiel
Jun 1, 2006

"There is no such thing as society. There are individual men and women, and there are families. And no government can do anything except through people, and people must look to themselves first."

God Bless Margaret Thatcher
God Bless England
RIP My Iron Lady

D-Pad posted:

Bloodlines is a detective novel unconcerned with the wider galaxy and lore that happens to be set in 40k.
That's... not entirely accurate. The events of the story are entirely driven by the biggest goings on in the 40k universe, it's just that as far as the characters are concerned "something weird is happening off planet and it's janking up trade".

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Telsa Cola
Aug 19, 2011

No... this is all wrong... this whole operation has just gone completely sidewaysface
So I have read three seperate books from three separate authors and I have come to the conclusion that many chapters actually don't really give a poo poo about mindwiping their initates past family lives and such out of them, at best they dull the attachment.

Ragnar Blackmane wants to gently caress up the Grimskull whose tribe killed his and took his girlfriend.

The two brothers in the Blood Angel series have the obvious dynamic.

Purging of Kadillus has a Dark Angel marine of all chapters going "I feel weird about not directly defending my recruitment planet/my people" with a Chaplain going "Uuuuuuhhhh we are having a talk when we get back" for obvious reasons.

Also Ultramarines and Salamanders have their own lore about all that.

Telsa Cola fucked around with this message at 03:17 on Oct 21, 2020

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