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Miguel Prado posted:Honestly all of the siege books have been mediocre to bad, saturnine being the best of them. I recognize I’m already basically dead on this hill but I think Saturnine is a genuinely great book in places, not just great for 40k but great by the standards of the genre as a whole. I read some pulp but I also read plenty of very well-regarded sci-fi (and yes, literary fiction too, you snobs) and there were moments of Saturnine that I thought were as evocative and moving as anything from The City We Became or The Three-Body Problem.
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DAD LOST MY IPOD posted:I recognize I’m already basically dead on this hill but I think Saturnine is a genuinely great book in places, not just great for 40k but great by the standards of the genre as a whole. I read some pulp but I also read plenty of very well-regarded sci-fi (and yes, literary fiction too, you snobs) and there were moments of Saturnine that I thought were as evocative and moving as anything from The City We Became or The Three-Body Problem. It's funny how we have the exact opposite opinions on this book. Primarily I think my problems with Saturnine come from the dialogue of the characters; everyone has to be pithy and snappy and make lame and weird jokes all the time? Which I guess could have been good, but Abnett isn't funny and his bad comic book dialogues fell completely flat for me, and there were several passages I found outright cringe-worthy.
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Arbite posted:Different guy. I guess I've read too many of Moorcock's Eternal Champion books because to me he ticked all the boxes for "Perpetual playing role of weird old soldier"
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Apr 21, 2021 06:21
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Saturnine and perhaps all the Siege of Terra novels suffer from “Unremembered Empire”-syndrome. Abnett has to tie all these loose ends together and the novel suffers for it. I’m interested to see if ADB and Wraight will do better with their SoT-novels.
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Apr 21, 2021 12:42
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1tWaS6NHXGM new trailer for Hired Gun came out. holy gently caress EYE devs know how to paint a 40k world up pretty.
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Apr 21, 2021 21:28
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I liked Saturnine but after finishing the book it felt a little like a GW exec read Necropolis and thought each chapter should have been its own book for extra profit.
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Apr 21, 2021 21:41
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I found Saturnine rather disappointing, other than the stand on the bridge and the Perpetuals plot reveal (and I don't really like the whole Perpetuals angle). Lots of Deus ex Machina and players becoming dumb because the plot says so.
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Apr 21, 2021 21:58
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Should I read Eisenhorn or Night Lords first? Not new to Warhammer novels, I've probably read a dozen or so (including the first 5 Horus Heresy books) and could really use a break from how great the Emperor is. I keep looking through the OP of this thread and never bookmark it but I've got it now.
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Apr 22, 2021 00:55
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First one, then the other TBH. I enjoyed Eisenhorn a lot more, but Night Lords is pretty great.
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Apr 22, 2021 01:28
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Skulk Hogan posted:Should I read Eisenhorn or Night Lords first? Eisenhorn, when I read it, led me to immediately read the Ravenor trilogy (and now would also lead me to read Magos and the two Pariah books). Night Lords would be a shorter endeavor to start with.
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The Night Lords trilogy whips rear end. I'd read that first.
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