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Khizan
Jul 30, 2013


Bruxism posted:

I really like the Mechanicus stuff

Dan Abnett's Titanicus is a standalone about a Titan Legion going to war. Mike Brooks' Brutal Kunnin' is Orks versus Mechanicus. It's primarily an ork book, but it's still great. Graham McNeill's Priests of Mars series generally gets high praise in this thread, but I've never read it personally.

If you want to take the whole "become one with the machine" thing to the extreme, Robert Rath's The Infinite and the Divine is about necrons and it's also really good.

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Z the IVth
Jan 28, 2009

The trouble with your "expendable machines"
Fun Shoe
To add to that list if you're wanting more Mechanicus goodness

- Ascension Day is a story about genestealers and Mechanicus and it's written by an actual mainstream author to boot.

- Flesh and Steel is Warhammer Crime revolving around the Mechanicus.

- The Death of Integrity is bolter porn but there's a bit at the end where the Mechanicus run into a DAOT AI (essentially a Culture Mind) with predictable results.

Edit - Priests of Mars is quite good but the story does start to go off the rails in as the series progresses.

Z the IVth fucked around with this message at 07:56 on Jun 29, 2022

Gravitas Shortfall
Jul 17, 2007

Utility is seven-eighths Proximity.


AnEdgelord posted:

The orks in the book explicitly say they believe im reincarnation, theres a whole scene where the blood axe translator stumbles over the word

lonelylikezoidberg posted:

Yeah way back in like the 2nd or 3rd edition of the rulebook it explicitly states that Orks believe their spirits will be vomited back into another body after they die by Gork or Mork.

I'll have to read it again, must have missed that! It makes sense anyway, given that the Warp isn't full of rambunctious Orc spirits or whatever

Cooked Auto
Aug 4, 2007

If you will not serve in combat, you will serve on the firing line!





Oh hell yes, now to wait two years for the paperback version.

Improbable Lobster
Jan 6, 2012

What is the Matrix 🌐? We just don't know 😎.


Buglord

Bruxism posted:

Been digging through this thread a bit and the OP seems a bit out of date, so hoping for some recommendations. I've been wanting to read another WF40K book, but haven't been so happy with the ones I've just picked up randomly. I'd really like to read more about the Horus Heresy, but was floored to learn that the series is like 54 books long. I read the opening chapters of the Horus Rising and it seems good, but the thought of embarking on a 54 book journey is daunting. How essential is it to stick to the order of books? Any must reads or must skips from the Horus Heresy series?

So far I've read:
Avenging Son (my favorite one so far, really enjoyed the scenes with the admin clerk trying to deliver that petition) - I've almost purchased the second book of this series a few times, but the reviews are really mixed and it's a different author. Should I go for it?
Devastation of Baal (Good, but not as good as Avenging Son. A little too much painstaking descriptions of heraldry and armor during that last supper scene.)
Belisarius Cawl: The Great Work (I really like the Mechanicus stuff and liked this one a lot. Some of the back story/side story stuff got a little old, but it was pretty good)
I read one of the Eisenhorn books, I believe it was Xenos, and thought it was ok. Might be up for giving the series a second look.

I'd welcome your recommendations on other must-read 40k books.

Anything by Peter Fehervari, Aaron Dempski-Bowden, Dan Abnett, Mike Brooks or Chris Wraight is usually worth reading.

Warden
Jan 16, 2020

Improbable Lobster posted:

Anything by Peter Fehervari, Aaron Dempski-Bowden, Dan Abnett, Mike Brooks or Chris Wraight is usually worth reading.

Robert Rath and Nate Croakley are also good. They have different takes on Necrons but both are really good in their own way.

D-Pad
Jun 28, 2006

Cooked Auto posted:

Oh hell yes, now to wait two years for the paperback version.

Worth it to get hardbacks for releases like this because you can always sell them down the road for 2x-3x what you paid and you don't have to wait for a paperback.

Inspector_666
Oct 7, 2003

benny with the good hair

Z the IVth posted:

To add to that list if you're wanting more Mechanicus goodness

- Ascension Day is a story about genestealers and Mechanicus and it's written by an actual mainstream author to boot.

- Flesh and Steel is Warhammer Crime revolving around the Mechanicus.

- The Death of Integrity is bolter porn but there's a bit at the end where the Mechanicus run into a DAOT AI (essentially a Culture Mind) with predictable results.

Edit - Priests of Mars is quite good but the story does start to go off the rails in as the series progresses.

Death Of Integrity is wild, so much going on in that book even though it really is mostly bolter porn like you said.

Another big caveat about Priests of Mars is that it sets up a whole plotline/cliffhanger that will almost assuredly never be picked up again. But also get the omnibus edition that includes the short story at the end because it's straight up 40k cyberpunk and I wish there was more stuff like that.

Telsa Cola
Aug 19, 2011

No... this is all wrong... this whole operation has just gone completely sidewaysface
DOI is indeed crazy and there's a billion implications it leaves hanging.

Broken Record Talk
Jul 28, 2009

A three-hundred thousand degree baptism by nuclear fire;
we had it coming.
Do we have a rough idea of when the next Siege of Terra novel will be out?

Warhawk feels like it came out a lifetime ago.

FPyat
Jan 17, 2020
Sept 13

Z the IVth
Jan 28, 2009

The trouble with your "expendable machines"
Fun Shoe
Re: DOI implications, in The Great Work, Qvo mentions that Cawl pwned the Spirit of Eternity. Or maybe co-opted it, you can never be sure with him.

Telsa Cola
Aug 19, 2011

No... this is all wrong... this whole operation has just gone completely sidewaysface

Z the IVth posted:

Re: DOI implications, in The Great Work, Qvo mentions that Cawl pwned the Spirit of Eternity. Or maybe co-opted it, you can never be sure with him.

I read that as him straight up lying to save face about what actually went down.

Emzedoh
Jun 26, 2013

Read Ghazghkull Thraka: Prophet of the Waaagh! on the recommendation of this thread - quite liked it! Nice to have a new reliable name to pull on for authors, I'd been sticking mainly to Dan Abnett, ADB and Chris Wraight. I particularly liked how the ork characters got to have a little more nuance than the standard football hooligan stereotype, while still maintaining that classic warhammer orky-ness we've all come to love and expect.

One thing I wanted to ask about though, are Blood Axes and their unorky sneaky ways really still canon? I know it was a thing back in Rogue Trader days and it's mentioned consistently in the book, but I'd always had the impression that style of thing has been squatted along with Khornite uniform-wearing Stormboyz.

edit: shoutout also to that dirty sneaky bastard Biter!

Sextro
Aug 23, 2014

Emzedoh posted:


One thing I wanted to ask about though, are Blood Axes and their unorky sneaky ways really still canon? I know it was a thing back in Rogue Trader days and it's mentioned consistently in the book, but I'd always had the impression that style of thing has been squatted along with Khornite uniform-wearing Stormboyz.

edit: shoutout also to that dirty sneaky bastard Biter!

Well squats are back so…?

Improbable Lobster
Jan 6, 2012

What is the Matrix 🌐? We just don't know 😎.


Buglord

Emzedoh posted:

Read Ghazghkull Thraka: Prophet of the Waaagh! on the recommendation of this thread - quite liked it! Nice to have a new reliable name to pull on for authors, I'd been sticking mainly to Dan Abnett, ADB and Chris Wraight. I particularly liked how the ork characters got to have a little more nuance than the standard football hooligan stereotype, while still maintaining that classic warhammer orky-ness we've all come to love and expect.

One thing I wanted to ask about though, are Blood Axes and their unorky sneaky ways really still canon? I know it was a thing back in Rogue Trader days and it's mentioned consistently in the book, but I'd always had the impression that style of thing has been squatted along with Khornite uniform-wearing Stormboyz.

edit: shoutout also to that dirty sneaky bastard Biter!

yeah dogg it wouldn't have been consistently mentioned in the book if it wasn't

Brendan Rodgers
Jun 11, 2014




Blood Axes have always been canon? They don't have to ride into the Imperial Palace and unplug the golden throne to be canon. Orks having internal factions who are able to negotiate with non Orks, and are considered un-Orky, is one of those obvious things where if you need a constant set of Codex entries confirming they are possible, it kinda makes the whole galaxy smaller.

Cooked Auto
Aug 4, 2007

If you will not serve in combat, you will serve on the firing line!




D-Pad posted:

Worth it to get hardbacks for releases like this because you can always sell them down the road for 2x-3x what you paid and you don't have to wait for a paperback.

I'm really bad at re-selling stuff down the line. I just like having stuff on my shelves. :shrug:

Broken Record Talk
Jul 28, 2009

A three-hundred thousand degree baptism by nuclear fire;
we had it coming.

Cooked Auto posted:

I'm really bad at re-selling stuff down the line. I just like having stuff on my shelves. :shrug:

Hardbacks will last more years before falling apart, ensuring they remain on your shelf even longer! :eng101:

D-Pad
Jun 28, 2006

Emzedoh posted:

Read Ghazghkull Thraka: Prophet of the Waaagh! on the recommendation of this thread - quite liked it! Nice to have a new reliable name to pull on for authors, I'd been sticking mainly to Dan Abnett, ADB and Chris Wraight. I particularly liked how the ork characters got to have a little more nuance than the standard football hooligan stereotype, while still maintaining that classic warhammer orky-ness we've all come to love and expect.

One thing I wanted to ask about though, are Blood Axes and their unorky sneaky ways really still canon? I know it was a thing back in Rogue Trader days and it's mentioned consistently in the book, but I'd always had the impression that style of thing has been squatted along with Khornite uniform-wearing Stormboyz.

edit: shoutout also to that dirty sneaky bastard Biter!

Yes, Catachan Devil that just came out recently was all about a group of sneaky commando orks on one side (with POV) and the catachans up against them on the other.

bob dobbs is dead
Oct 8, 2017

I love peeps
Nap Ghost
the squats themselves are in the process of being unsquatted

Biplane
Jul 18, 2005

bob dobbs is dead posted:

the squats themselves are in the process of being unsquatted

I can not wait to sink my teeth into some fuckin 2022 squat lore. What a time to be alive

Z the IVth
Jan 28, 2009

The trouble with your "expendable machines"
Fun Shoe

Telsa Cola posted:

I read that as him straight up lying to save face about what actually went down.

He wasn't there though. Unless that expedition was his idea and he put his handpicked clown squad in charge.

Telsa Cola
Aug 19, 2011

No... this is all wrong... this whole operation has just gone completely sidewaysface

Biplane posted:

I can not wait to sink my teeth into some fuckin 2022 squat lore. What a time to be alive

Theres a bunch of lore dumps recently, they basically have 30k imperial levels of tech.

Crazy Joe Wilson
Jul 4, 2007

Justifiably Mad!
Almost finished the first Malus Omnibus, despite my initial expectations I kinda enjoyed them, not my usual cup of tea to read about a (villainous) protagonist who keeps sabotaging themselves through their impetus, but it's got its charm. Also, lot of Dark Elves dying is always good.

Also found the Warhammer Ambassador Omnibus for 10 bux, it's got Graham McNeill writing it, so it should be good.

Wish they reprinted the Warhammer Chronicles more often though. They just re-released the Blackhearts Omnibus, but it's the same as the original version. Want to get my hands on physical copies of The Sundering, War of Vengeance, and Vampire Wars.

Telsa Cola
Aug 19, 2011

No... this is all wrong... this whole operation has just gone completely sidewaysface

Crazy Joe Wilson posted:

Almost finished the first Malus Omnibus, despite my initial expectations I kinda enjoyed them, not my usual cup of tea to read about a (villainous) protagonist who keeps sabotaging themselves through their impetus, but it's got its charm. Also, lot of Dark Elves dying is always good.

Also found the Warhammer Ambassador Omnibus for 10 bux, it's got Graham McNeill writing it, so it should be good.

Wish they reprinted the Warhammer Chronicles more often though. They just re-released the Blackhearts Omnibus, but it's the same as the original version. Want to get my hands on physical copies of The Sundering, War of Vengeance, and Vampire Wars.

The ambassador ones are the ones with fantasy Sean Connery, yeah?

Arc Hammer
Mar 4, 2013

Got any deathsticks?
Why wouldn't you want un-Orky sneaky gits? Kommandos are the best Orks this side of thr Stormboyz.

Emzedoh
Jun 26, 2013

Improbable Lobster posted:

yeah dogg it wouldn't have been consistently mentioned in the book if it wasn't

Well it seems obvious when you put it like that :P

I guess what I was trying to say was that I didn't realise Blood Axes - who have titles like Genrul or Kolonel and dress up in long coats with scrap metal medals with peaked caps - were still a thing. I had thought they had been slid out of the setting as Warhammer got less comic over the years. I did know kommandos were a thing, I just didn't know if they had a clan identity.

And yeah, I'd actually forgotten about Squats getting unsquatted. Still doesn't feel real to me, to be honest.

Improbable Lobster
Jan 6, 2012

What is the Matrix 🌐? We just don't know 😎.


Buglord

Emzedoh posted:

Well it seems obvious when you put it like that :P

:V

FPyat
Jan 17, 2020
Learning that Gate of Bones has a Aeldari diplomatic delegation makes me way more interested in reading it.

Sephyr
Aug 28, 2012
Has there been any more books/stories about Ahriman after Unchanged?

Last time I read about him he had cast a new Rubric on the Planet of Sorcerers, except it reunited (most of ) Magnus into a single entity from his scattered state. One rubric-marine was restored, but it was apparently a little nudge by Tzeentch to keep him striving.

Now that the game lore literally has the legion somewhat united, Sortiarius teleporting into realspace to annoy Fenris and then start harvesting psykers all over the riven galaxy like a grimdark Charles Xaviar's School for Psychically Gifted Youngsters, it seems the whole dynamic must have shifted, but I have found little material on it.

D-Pad
Jun 28, 2006

Telsa Cola posted:

Theres a bunch of lore dumps recently, they basically have 30k imperial levels of tech.

Better than that, they have actual sentient AI supercomputers that run their society, lots of working STCs, and really nifty gene tech. They are almost at dark age of technology levels except for the weaponry because that would make them too OP.

Sephyr posted:

Has there been any more books/stories about Ahriman after Unchanged?

Last time I read about him he had cast a new Rubric on the Planet of Sorcerers, except it reunited (most of ) Magnus into a single entity from his scattered state. One rubric-marine was restored, but it was apparently a little nudge by Tzeentch to keep him striving.

Now that the game lore literally has the legion somewhat united, Sortiarius teleporting into realspace to annoy Fenris and then start harvesting psykers all over the riven galaxy like a grimdark Charles Xaviar's School for Psychically Gifted Youngsters, it seems the whole dynamic must have shifted, but I have found little material on it.

Ahriman Eternal just came out and it was pretty good.

lenoon
Jan 7, 2010

They also make no distinction between their AI citizens and their biological citizens because the Squats are the protagonists now and they’re great

Improbable Lobster
Jan 6, 2012

What is the Matrix 🌐? We just don't know 😎.


Buglord

lenoon posted:

They also make no distinction between their AI citizens and their biological citizens because the Squats are the protagonists now and they’re great

I kinda hope their grimdark leans more into a tragic, what could have been type angle instead of the usual secretly evil

Cooked Auto
Aug 4, 2007

If you will not serve in combat, you will serve on the firing line!




Broken Record Talk posted:

Hardbacks will last more years before falling apart, ensuring they remain on your shelf even longer! :eng101:

I've gotten a lot better about not breaking the backs of my paperbacks these days thankyouverymuch. <:mad:>

Inspector_666
Oct 7, 2003

benny with the good hair

Improbable Lobster posted:

I kinda hope their grimdark leans more into a tragic, what could have been type angle instead of the usual secretly evil

Same, especially since it seems like their predilection towards the usual dwarven tropes already give them enough "downsides" that it isn't like when Tau first showed up and it was obviously the best faction to be a part of if you had to pick.

From the descriptions of the state of the actual Voltanns, it sounds like they're already setting them up for that sort of thing mixed with "The shittiness of the future makes everything suck."

bob dobbs is dead
Oct 8, 2017

I love peeps
Nap Ghost
where's grudges.csv, filesize 73 petabytes?

Gravitas Shortfall
Jul 17, 2007

Utility is seven-eighths Proximity.


bob dobbs is dead posted:

where's grudges.csv, filesize 73 petabytes?

you'll have to wait for the defrag to complete in... *squints*.... fifty thousand years

FishFood
Apr 1, 2012

Now with brine shrimp!

Emzedoh posted:

Well it seems obvious when you put it like that :P

I guess what I was trying to say was that I didn't realise Blood Axes - who have titles like Genrul or Kolonel and dress up in long coats with scrap metal medals with peaked caps - were still a thing. I had thought they had been slid out of the setting as Warhammer got less comic over the years. I did know kommandos were a thing, I just didn't know if they had a clan identity.

And yeah, I'd actually forgotten about Squats getting unsquatted. Still doesn't feel real to me, to be honest.

Blood Axes are still around but the WW2 German aesthetic has been phased out, they've been leaning a lot more into the commando/Rambo look, which I think fits Orks better anyhow.

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Pyrolocutus
Feb 5, 2005
Shape of Flame



Mike Brooks has Plans.

https://twitter.com/MikeBrooks668/status/1543336373410824194?t=IYt9LYjz5jOEJXpwrD87SA&s=19

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