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# ? Jul 3, 2022 11:47 |
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# ? Apr 18, 2024 09:28 |
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Pyrolocutus posted:Mike Brooks has Plans. Finally, someone gets it
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# ? Jul 3, 2022 11:52 |
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https://twitter.com/MikeBrooks668/status/1543583378599018496 Here's some more words from him about that.
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# ? Jul 3, 2022 14:26 |
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I demand the grim gayest darkness! I'd love to read some books that feature some proper post-human dialed up to 11 mechanicus stuff while at the same time not doing any of the "good old misogyny, homophobia, transphobia".
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# ? Jul 3, 2022 14:47 |
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Cooked Auto posted:https://twitter.com/MikeBrooks668/status/1543583378599018496 I wish everyone producing any form of media approaching "mainstream" audiences would have that basic attitude. the panacea fucked around with this message at 14:52 on Jul 3, 2022 |
# ? Jul 3, 2022 14:50 |
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Pyrolocutus posted:Mike Brooks has Plans.
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# ? Jul 3, 2022 14:51 |
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Are the orks going to share choppas? Can Aaaaahhhh bloom in the battlefield?
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# ? Jul 3, 2022 15:32 |
The Imperium can still work wonderfully as a satire of fascism and zealotry without constantly reminding fans of their real world discrimination. Really hope GW accepts that because the more stuff like that they do the more Nazi fans get turned off. Aside from the Ork recently mentioned I can't think of a sungle character who uses 'they', but maybe that's just me over-relying on Abnett schlock etc.
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# ? Jul 3, 2022 15:32 |
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In Road to redemption a love interest/main char has they/Them as pronoun. I also have vague memories of som AdMech characters using it in another book.
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# ? Jul 3, 2022 15:42 |
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I’m also fine with the dual approach of Imperium is a nightmare state, but RG wants to fix this and only in death does duty end. So kind of grimbrightish. I think giving people, for lack of a better term, positive examples of people in the imperium who despise all the bad stuff isn’t a horrible idea. Like how RG is really weirded out by Cherubs and I also think servitors.
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# ? Jul 3, 2022 15:43 |
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The Imperium should only be inwardly lovely on basis of class and species.
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# ? Jul 3, 2022 16:04 |
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Peak 40k would be a female soldier being court marshaled for misappropriating equipment for having issued bras because some supply clerk two decades ago ticked the wrong box. It is perfectly in keeping with the setting for people not to give a poo poo about gender and sexuality, all that matters is loyalty, sacrifice and purity. The Imperial Guard has one gender, and that is soldier.
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# ? Jul 3, 2022 19:50 |
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I don't want 40k society to be just accepting of LGBTQ people, I want it have to have cultural ideas about queerness and gender that aren't oppressive, just weird and alien in a way that reflects the deranged ideological mishmash of the Imperial Cult. Like you could have excerpts from a theological tract making the wildest arguments about why homosexual relationships glorify the human essence or something.
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# ? Jul 3, 2022 23:39 |
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Know what we'll have reached true diversity though? When our queer characters are exactly as fuckin' awful because they're part of the Imperium. The Imperium stains, and that poo poo don't come out. If a mote of goodness occurs, it's either fluke, or so rare as to make no difference apart from a oily shine on the endless stream of effluent that it produces.
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# ? Jul 4, 2022 01:27 |
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FPyat posted:I don't want 40k society to be just accepting of LGBTQ people, I want it have to have cultural ideas about queerness and gender that aren't oppressive, just weird and alien in a way that reflects the deranged ideological mishmash of the Imperial Cult. Like you could have excerpts from a theological tract making the wildest arguments about why homosexual relationships glorify the human essence or something. nah dude don't be weird
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# ? Jul 4, 2022 01:44 |
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Make humans horrifically racist against anything other than the baseline human form. Ratlings, Ogryns, Felinids and Navigators are aberrations who are barely tolerated in regular society and the technocultists of the Mechanicus and non-biological limb replacements are signs of deviancy.
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# ? Jul 4, 2022 02:31 |
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Be Gay, Do Heresy
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# ? Jul 4, 2022 03:01 |
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Biplane posted:Be Gay, Do Heresy I'm trying.
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# ? Jul 4, 2022 04:21 |
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it makes no sense whatsoever that the imperium would be homophobic or transphobic because 1) they derive their morals from a religion that does not have sexual taboos (because it did not evolve in a milieu with strong sexual taboos), 2) exalting the human qua human is at the core of their religion, especially through modification of the human body, 3) humanity is in such desperate straits that it can’t afford to throw away even a small percentage of soldiers, and 4) it’s much easier and more fun to direct that human prejudice outward
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# ? Jul 4, 2022 05:32 |
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HerpicleOmnicron5 posted:The Imperium should only be inwardly lovely on basis of class and species. This is the correct opinion
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# ? Jul 4, 2022 06:58 |
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Where it starts to get tricky is "abhor the mutant" because people don't need chaos taint to be born with physical deformities and it must suck to see yourself reflected in fiction as abominations even if it's cartoonish exaggerated.
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# ? Jul 4, 2022 07:33 |
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Biplane posted:Be Gay, Do Heresy
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# ? Jul 4, 2022 12:55 |
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One would think that most of the higher ups in the Mechanicum would be non binary; Identifying with a gender doesn’t seem like something that would at the top of a brain-in-a-jar’s daily routine.
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# ? Jul 4, 2022 19:31 |
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chop it off or cut it out and put another mechadendrite in there
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# ? Jul 4, 2022 19:45 |
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Hot Dog Day #82 posted:One would think that most of the higher ups in the Mechanicum would be non binary The Mechanicum are all about binary
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# ? Jul 4, 2022 19:49 |
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Hot Dog Day #82 posted:One would think that most of the higher ups in the Mechanicum would be non binary; Identifying with a gender doesn’t seem like something that would at the top of a brain-in-a-jar’s daily routine. It's been a pretty constant throughline for AdMech that they don't particularly care about gender in any meaningful way.
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# ? Jul 4, 2022 21:02 |
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DaysBefore posted:The Imperium can still work wonderfully as a satire of fascism and zealotry without constantly reminding fans of their real world discrimination. Really hope GW accepts that because the more stuff like that they do the more Nazi fans get turned off.
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# ? Jul 5, 2022 01:05 |
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Hot Dog Day #82 posted:One would think that most of the higher ups in the Mechanicum would be non binary; Identifying with a gender doesn’t seem like something that would at the top of a brain-in-a-jar’s daily routine. Surprisingly enough I don’t think that’s the case, or at least not always the case. I know for a fact the master of mankind it’s explicitly stated that the new fabricator general is a woman. Regarding LGBT40K I seem to recall one theory is since the best resource the Imperium has is human meat sacks, they would probably discourage it, since less human meat sacks for the Guard or Factories. No proof of that mind you, but I wouldn’t be shocked, if there is no rhyme or reason to it. I mean when you think of the Imperium at large they really can’t get anything murder kill standardized besides Xenos heretic and mutant. Marshal Prolapse fucked around with this message at 01:10 on Jul 5, 2022 |
# ? Jul 5, 2022 01:06 |
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DaysBefore posted:The Imperium can still work wonderfully as a satire of fascism and zealotry without constantly reminding fans of their real world discrimination. Really hope GW accepts that because the more stuff like that they do the more Nazi fans get turned off. i kinda viewed it as "once you have aliens and obvious mutants/abhumans, old bigotries kinda "die" and get supplated by those types of bigotries. kinda like the galactic empire doesn't give a poo poo about your sexuality or gender, your just a warm body they can put in armor or a lovely tie variete and human wave some aliens or rebels. like the bigotries are probably still there but galaxies is big and aliens exist and the empire/imperium just wants warm bodies to work or fight so who cares. plus the mechanicus for the most part are kinda only gender at some point since many are just like bits and pieces in metal.
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# ? Jul 5, 2022 03:34 |
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DAD LOST MY IPOD posted:it makes no sense whatsoever that the imperium would be homophobic or transphobic because 1) they derive their morals from a religion that does not have sexual taboos (because it did not evolve in a milieu with strong sexual taboos), 2) exalting the human qua human is at the core of their religion, especially through modification of the human body, 3) humanity is in such desperate straits that it can’t afford to throw away even a small percentage of soldiers, and 4) it’s much easier and more fun to direct that human prejudice outward yeah exactly. they don't, pluse space marines are basically some version of ace. also slannesh isnt even "sex/kinky bad" because i assume all the slanessh poo poo is way beyond idk poop or pegging or bdsm. its more "i can only feel pleasure when i grind 999992 left handed orphans one by one into powder that i must snort at the galactic equanox".
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# ? Jul 5, 2022 03:40 |
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Dapper_Swindler posted:yeah exactly. they don't, pluse space marines are basically some version of ace. also slannesh isnt even "sex/kinky bad" because i assume all the slanessh poo poo is way beyond idk poop or pegging or bdsm. its more "i can only feel pleasure when i grind 999992 left handed orphans one by one into powder that i must snort at the galactic equanox". It’s kind of amazing that despite everything you’d expect,really cringe and creepy Slannesh poo poo has not made itself into most black library stories. Also helps they could never afford GRRM.
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# ? Jul 5, 2022 04:05 |
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they parted ways w ian watson and Learned Their Lesson from that also the continuous hilarious attempts to get into k-6 education. i mean, it aint bad as an arts and crafts hobby if(f) you're rich
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# ? Jul 5, 2022 04:07 |
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https://www.warhammer-community.com/2018/05/21/21st-may-warhammer-adventures-tales-for-younger-readersgw-homepage-post-1/ "we got this, we got the demonculaba, shits weird"
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# ? Jul 5, 2022 04:08 |
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bob dobbs is dead posted:they parted ways w ian watson and Learned Their Lesson from that Actually considering how much my kids used dice as part of their math lessons in K-4 so far, that 40K(ids) isn’t a bad idea at all for GW. Edit: I do love the snark in the footnotes. quote:*Parents understandably unsure about recommending the Horus Heresy series to their children, it being a series about 9 sons trying to tear down their father’s empire… Marshal Prolapse fucked around with this message at 14:35 on Jul 5, 2022 |
# ? Jul 5, 2022 04:10 |
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bob dobbs is dead posted:they parted ways w ian watson and Learned Their Lesson from that Yeah I was gonna say, most 40k nerds who are all about "Slaanesh is about secks ecks dee" most likely got it from Inquisitor War trilogy where the main chaos antagonist is heavy and there's just a bunch of innuendos and mentions from what I can remember. I will say though, Watson really knew how to describe freaky looking chaos followers to make them come off as disturbing.
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# ? Jul 5, 2022 14:29 |
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bob dobbs is dead posted:they parted ways w ian watson and Learned Their Lesson from that Marshal Prolapse posted:It’s kind of amazing that despite everything you’d expect,really cringe and creepy Slannesh poo poo has not made itself into most black library stories. Also helps they could never afford GRRM. yeah, like it exists espcially in WH fantasy and the very old books, but i do like that slanessh headonism is basicaly just ultra out there cenobite poo poo at its most sexual because all of these freaks would have been bored with sexual assault and horrors like that after min 1.
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# ? Jul 5, 2022 14:42 |
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Finally finished The Infinite and the Divine last night. Saw the twist coming probably halfway through the book, and there are a few moments where things get a little jumbled in a way I'm not sure was intentional, but overall a real good story of two dicks being dicks to each other and snarking about it. Nice to see the chapter quotes namechecking Zandrekh too. Good times.Marshal Prolapse posted:It’s kind of amazing that despite everything you’d expect,really cringe and creepy Slannesh poo poo has not made itself into most black library stories. Also helps they could never afford GRRM.
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# ? Jul 5, 2022 14:45 |
Arquinsiel posted:Finally finished The Infinite and the Divine last night. Saw the twist coming probably halfway through the book, and there are a few moments where things get a little jumbled in a way I'm not sure was intentional, but overall a real good story of two dicks being dicks to each other and snarking about it. Nice to see the chapter quotes namechecking Zandrekh too. Good times. Read Rites of Passage next if you want more 40k snark characters. I would absolutely love to see a Cheta vs Trazyn book.
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# ? Jul 5, 2022 20:41 |
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God I am pumped for that new Wraight book. As excited as I am for Winds of Winter .
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# ? Jul 5, 2022 23:16 |
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black library makes deadlines
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# ? Jul 5, 2022 23:18 |