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Biplane posted:I just finished Fire Caste by Peter Fehervari, which was great but seems like it was only accidentally a 40k novel. The dude wrote Requiem Infernal which was very 40k and also great. I was on a tau binge when I saw it and thought, neat, a tau novel by a good writer. And again, it was pretty drat good but only peripherally a tau novel I feel. All of his novels are connected in a shared universe (within the shared universe of 40k) called the Dark Coil. There are a lot of plot lines and themes running through them. You should read his other stuff. There is a Dark Coil graphic floating around somewhere that explains all the connections.
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May 24, 2020 15:42
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x1o posted:Hoping the increase in Necron action sees more Ad Mech action. The toaster touchers are going to be all over this new necron threat like augmented moths to a flame. I need more Cawl and Trazyn exchanging barbs.
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May 24, 2020 16:26
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D-Pad posted:All of his novels are connected in a shared universe (within the shared universe of 40k) called the Dark Coil. There are a lot of plot lines and themes running through them. You should read his other stuff. There is a Dark Coil graphic floating around somewhere that explains all the connections. drat, this is news to me! Gonna have to check out his other stories asap, because his poo poo is drat good.
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May 24, 2020 16:44
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Is firecaste the Vietnam in Space one or is that another one.
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May 24, 2020 18:36
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Telsa Cola posted:Is firecaste the Vietnam in Space one is that another one. Pretty much, yes.
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May 24, 2020 20:59
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And its on shrooms the entire time
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May 25, 2020 06:40
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Telsa Cola posted:Is firecaste the Vietnam in Space one or is that another one. You’re thinking of the Blood Gorgons book maybe? E: I always thought the Blood Gorgons were a p.deece treatment of Chaos Space Marines but the author was apparently a loving plagiarist? E2: Zhou’s Emperor’s Mercy or Flesh and Iron? Schadenboner fucked around with this message at 15:09 on May 25, 2020 |
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May 25, 2020 15:06
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No, Fire Caste is absolutely Vietnam in Space. I am reading it right now. It's basically 40k Apocalypse Now. Shares a lot of the same plot points even. It is very well written though. I don't think many, if any, BL authors could pull it off with out seeming like bad parody. Fehervari is the most unique BL author. I still prefer Wraight, ADB, and Abnett; but Fehervari is as good just different. His prose is much more pretentious but good enough to pull it off and not be annoying.
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May 25, 2020 16:05
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New short story on black libray, "child of chaos" by Chris Wraight. "Discover the true story of Erebus – beloved character and reviled traitor, one of the architects of the Horus Heresy itself – in his own words." I might just pick it up!
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May 25, 2020 20:04
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Lol gently caress Erebus and every story that he's in.
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May 25, 2020 20:08
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Schadenboner posted:You’re thinking of the Blood Gorgons book maybe? I liked Blood Gorgons okay but the other Zou books I read were trash and then it came out that he was a plagiarist and nothing of value was lost Improbable Lobster fucked around with this message at 20:31 on May 25, 2020 |
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May 25, 2020 20:19
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I liked the Blood Gorgons all having thematic sea-creature mutations and that never being explained. Various Chaos anemones and barnacles encrusting their armor as they became ecosystems unto themselves.
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May 25, 2020 20:33
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There's a bunch of theories being kicked around reddit (eww I know) that basically say the Heresy is iterative, and has been played out a million times in the past. The Board is Set is pretty central to the theory but if you read through it it's pretty solid. https://old.reddit.com/r/40kLore/comments/fyr40m/theres_something_rotten_in_the_siege_of_terra_or/ https://www.reddit.com/r/40kLore/comments/e3fi5l/excerpts_the_great_work_lost_and_damned_evidence/ It does help handwave some inconsistencies and would be a hell of a reveal if they actually wen't down that route. How many times has the Emperor played his game? only to fail and have to restart at the beginning of time? an endless game he has never won. changing one thing each time or trying to control who falls and when. The references throughout the Board is Set do track as well with some other revelations in different stories. I quite like it to be honest.
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May 26, 2020 21:11
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Eh, I can't buy the "alt Heresies is canon" argument. The Board Is Set is more plausible as Malcador and Big E running through potential futures rather than tried-and-discarded timelines, and we've seen plenty of potential-futures-as-plot-device already in WH40k - it's practically the Eldar's main schtick. The board, then, is less them running through each Heresy than it is them using it as a framing device to organize and evalutate their possible futures (and for benefit of the reader). I haven't read Saturnine yet, but I think the inconsistencies I've heard mentioned there are likelier to be continuity fuckups rather than any real portent. And I think a more important point is, if the Emperor can straightup reroll the timeline until he succeeds (for a certain definition of "succeeds"), where's the gravitas? How much did the various events in the Heresy we read about mean in the grand scheme of things if they just happened to be the way the Emperor needed it to go/settled for it going? I think time travel can work on small scales in 40k - there was a neat story I read a bit back, maybe in Inferno? about a 1k Sons Sorcerer who basically set up his past self's fall to Chaos. For the Heresy though, I think it's a bad narrative device if the Emperor at the end went "well I guess I'll settle for this one" or "well, that didn't work out, back to the drawing board and to abandon this doomed timeline".
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May 26, 2020 23:05
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We have a Text to Speech double header today with Bro Trip 40,000 episode 3. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CZ4cWYeI7Bk And yet more children's games with angry Primarchs. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MQyxbBuUfH8
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May 26, 2020 23:12
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Demiurge4 posted:Lol gently caress Erebus and every story that he's in. Yes. Additionally gently caress every word bearer that isn’t Angel Tal.
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May 26, 2020 23:15
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von Metternich posted:Yes. Additionally gently caress every word bearer that isn’t Angel Tal.
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May 26, 2020 23:33
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SardonicTyrant posted:Kinda weird they set him up in First Heretic, suggest he'll be at the Siege, then kill him off in Betrayer. What was up with that? He got a prophecy that he would "die in the shadow of great wings" which he interpreted to mean he'd die in Sanguinus' presence. Erebus specifically pointed out the aquilia on the nearby titan wreck as he shanked Argel. Basically it's a combination of 40k prophecies not always going the way people interpret them and Erebus being a raging rear end in a top hat.
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May 26, 2020 23:44
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And Erebus wanting Kharn to be a raging berserker at the Siege
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May 27, 2020 07:22
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Pyrolocutus posted:Eh, I can't buy the "alt Heresies is canon" argument. The Board Is Set is more plausible as Malcador and Big E running through potential futures rather than tried-and-discarded timelines, and we've seen plenty of potential-futures-as-plot-device already in WH40k - it's practically the Eldar's main schtick. The board, then, is less them running through each Heresy than it is them using it as a framing device to organize and evalutate their possible futures (and for benefit of the reader). I haven't read Saturnine yet, but I think the inconsistencies I've heard mentioned there are likelier to be continuity fuckups rather than any real portent. Really takes the wind out of The Emperor's words someone posted here that I don't remember the source for "If we lose, we lose for all time."(?) No do overs, once humanity falls, extinction is final. And I can only imagine that outside of warp travel fuckery like ships arriving before they depart, time travel in 40k would have the most brutal predestination rules. Like instead of being a double edge sword it has infinite edges and they all cut back at you. e; for everyone but Trazyn the Infinite, they are on a completely different level. MariusLecter fucked around with this message at 11:33 on May 27, 2020 |
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May 27, 2020 11:30
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I was thinking of the Emperor is more Farseer where he has traveled different lines of fate looking for the best outcome.
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May 27, 2020 12:47
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A little bit more info about Dawn of Fire. So it looks like this will be quite a long series like the Horus Heresy and not just a trilogy or something. https://www.warhammer-community.com/2020/05/27/dawn-of-fire-revealed/
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May 27, 2020 14:29
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Hopefully it's better than The Beast series
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May 27, 2020 16:11
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Improbable Lobster posted:Hopefully it's better than The Beast series How bad is it?
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May 27, 2020 18:01
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Bad enough that it made the Orcs unfun. The worst crime. And not just because it was from a non orc perspective. They made the orcs needlessly cruel and sadistic and gave them the human pig planet because the Daemonculaba wasn't grotesque enough for Warhammer.
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May 27, 2020 20:31
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I kinda liked parts of it...the parts about early imperial government, anyways. But there was a lot of superweapon bullshit on the part of the orks. Gravity weapon! Attack moon! SEVERAL attack moons! That teleport!
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May 28, 2020 03:48
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von Metternich posted:I kinda liked parts of it...the parts about early imperial government, Yeah that part was the only thing that kept me slogging through the whole thing. Even the Vangorich plotline flames out at the end though. Below is what I said at the time after finishing it. quote:
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May 28, 2020 10:45
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Welp, pretty glad I skipped the whole thing. Thanks for confirming that for me.
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May 28, 2020 15:36
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Deptfordx posted:I didn't like the reveal that the Beast is actually multiple giant Orks Is is true that the whole thing was basically one giant excuse to make the terrible "Prime Orks" pun  ?
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May 28, 2020 18:02
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Beast Arises discussion spoilers: Um I am pretty sure the Beast was real and not multiple orks? I thought that at one point they thought they were about to fight (or were fighting) the beast and it turned out to just be a Prime Ork, but then later on they do actually find the beast, not that the beast never existed as a single entity. Am I misremembering?
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May 28, 2020 19:54
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whats a good book following the mechanicus. preferably not HH era. also on audible if possible.
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May 28, 2020 20:58
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Vaults of Terra
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May 28, 2020 21:05
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Titanicus isn't HH era, but its all titans and mechanicum.
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May 28, 2020 21:15
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Dapper_Swindler posted:whats a good book following the mechanicus. preferably not HH era. also on audible if possible. Priests of Mars, Lords of Mars, Gods of Mars.
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May 28, 2020 21:38
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What has kept Black Library from releasing a titan book called A Princeps of Mars? An interesting thing about Titan crewmembers is that in the fluff, people with the willpower to handle a Titan's Machine Spirit are so rare that they are taken from literally anywhere the mechanicus can find them. Do any of the books about Titan's make a point to talk about this? I know that Princeps Zahar in Helsreach talks about growing up in a hive city, which would mean she wasn't born into the mechanicus but recruited into it.
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May 28, 2020 21:38
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D-Pad posted:Beast Arises discussion spoilers: I can't remember first hand, that was written just after the last book came out, years ago. According to this Lexicanum article There's six Beasts, one for each major Ork clan and an even bigger ork called the Beast of Beasts.  https://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/The_Beast
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May 28, 2020 23:45
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Arcsquad12 posted:What has kept Black Library from releasing a titan book called A Princeps of Mars? Absolutely nothing beyond what their editors want written. Which is apparently why Josh Reynolds has quit writing for them. Apparently he butted head with editors what he wanted to do compared to what they needed a bit too often.
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May 29, 2020 15:00
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That's a shame. I just wanted an Edgar Rice Burroughs pun, but I guess that Black Library can still be rather touchy about the kind of stories they want published. I still remember how The Emperor's Gift switches gears in the last third because ADB got told to add in all the new models from the soon to be released Grey Knights line.
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I wonder what he wanted to do. I'm not very familiar with the world but there's a recent review of the new RPG over on FATAL & Friends in Trad Games and the fluff there sounds like you could go pretty over the top in a fun way that would still fit in. Edit: Of course I'm assuming he was butting heads over Sigmar stuff not 40k but didn't he become more of a writer for the fantasy side?
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