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next SoT book is Warhawk, focusing on the White Scars retaking Lion's Gate. chris wraight. do we know if ADB gets one of these?
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DAD LOST MY IPOD posted:next SoT book is Warhawk, focusing on the White Scars retaking Lion's Gate. chris wraight. Yeah his will most likely be the one after Wraight. Some really good BL reveals today.
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May 5, 2021 18:27
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DAD LOST MY IPOD posted:next SoT book is Warhawk, focusing on the White Scars retaking Lion's Gate. chris wraight. His is apparently next after that but he's having some trouble due to depression, last I heard.
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May 5, 2021 18:33
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Mike Brooks’ orc short story and novel are legitimately very funny. My wife keeps asking me why I am smiling at my kindle. A nice change in tone for WH books in the same vein as Infinite and the Divine. Feels like some of the new BL authors are really quite good.
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May 5, 2021 19:16
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Working through Void Stalker and dying at killing two people with chainswords and then immediately jumping out of a window going "Looks like you live to see another day!"
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May 5, 2021 19:24
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Skulk Hogan posted:Working through Void Stalker and dying at killing two people with chainswords and then immediately jumping out of a window going "Looks like you live to see another day!" ADB's night lords are such unbelievable shitheads, i love it. the abyssal edge is a great example of this. there's a horribly injured former fighter pilot whose new job is basically keeping crusade records for the night lords. he finds a really negative after action report about the Night Lords from the Thousand Sons and asks them about it because he wants to get their perspective before he files it. sevatar himself shows up, makes fun of the dude's disability a bunch, and then offers to let him see the record while implying that he will kill him afterwards to keep it secret. it turns out the night lords wanted to destroy a repository of chaos lore on a compliant planet, while the thousand sons wanted to preserve it, and curze ended up ordering a bombardment to destroy the tower before the Sons were fully withdrawn, forcing them to abandon it or take casualties. afterwards sevatar is literally seconds from killing this dude when the word comes that the night lords have reassigned the disabled pilot as a group captain on a starship, and the story ends with him just standing there with his chain-glaive a foot from the guy's throat, asking him if he wants to take the role or not.
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May 5, 2021 19:44
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DAD LOST MY IPOD posted:yeah, games workshop came up with the idea of an immortal god-emperor, a ban on thinking machines leading to their roles being filled by specialist humans, mutant Navigators enabling interstellar travel and exercising control over it via cartel, the word "lasgun," etc. Hey lets be clear, 40k ripped some stuff off from Star Wars... which ripped it off of Dune. Pretty much all of popular science fiction is just a Matryoshka doll with Dune/Foundation at the center.
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May 5, 2021 19:49
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I know they're related but I thought it was funny that the first thing they showed off for the Black Library day of their online festival was more models.
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May 5, 2021 19:53
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Bucnasti posted:Hey lets be clear, 40k ripped some stuff off from Star Wars... which ripped it off of Dune. Pretty much all of popular science fiction is just a Matryoshka doll with Dune/Foundation at the center. well yeah in the same sense that all fantasy is just middle earth in different hats, but the specific degree to which 40k apes not just the themes and tropes but also the terminology and details of dune is pretty funny to me
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May 5, 2021 20:03
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The Iron Rose posted:I actually liked everything about Mortis, except for the titan fights. I guess all the SoT novels suffer for it, but it’s just so all over the place and yes, the titan fights were super boring. Mortis reflection: maybe because I am Scandinavian, but a dude by the name of Oll Persson being the former Warmaster and the emperors best bud kinda deflates the setting for me
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May 5, 2021 20:37
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DAD LOST MY IPOD posted:well yeah in the same sense that all fantasy is just middle earth in different hats, but the specific degree to which 40k apes not just the themes and tropes but also the terminology and details of dune is pretty funny to me And the pacing. ive listened to most of these as audio books so it might be coloring my perception but we get the same kind of narrative rise and fall between action in open spaces and story in confined, quiet, or hidden away places.
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May 5, 2021 21:00
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D-Pad posted:Anyway, it turns out the new head of the sisters was made a high lord by rowboat. Interesting to me that he would give the church two high lord positions. Very curious to know if this was made after or before the end of plague war where he picked up the Lectitio Divinatus. Is this still canon? I thought they were retconning the Dark Imperium series since Plague War hasn't had a sequel for like 3 years now.
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May 5, 2021 21:01
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I thought Mortis went between its 4 threads pretty well, but I agree that the titan battles weren't as well executed as they could have been.
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May 5, 2021 21:04
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I loved Titanicus, Titan fights don’t have to be boring, why Mortis, why my princeps?
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May 5, 2021 21:14
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What does Mortis do wrong with the Titan fights? I haven't read it. To me a Titan fight should be intense because every single move in the duel should be potentially fatal and timing is critical. When Stormherald fights the Gargant in Helsreach and the Moderatii misses his shot that's the only opening that the Orks get and the Titan is swiftly brought down.
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May 5, 2021 22:36
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DAD LOST MY IPOD posted:well yeah in the same sense that all fantasy is just middle earth in different hats, but the specific degree to which 40k apes not just the themes and tropes but also the terminology and details of dune is pretty funny to me
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May 5, 2021 23:13
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40k (and fantasy) has always been a sci-fantasy pastiche made to justify the existence of different kinds of toy soldiers. It doesn't have an original bone in its body. Trying to cut it open and figure out where everything came from is going to result in you tripping over every semi-popular science fiction or fantasy property from the last 100+ years I still love the setting though
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May 6, 2021 01:19
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A video talking about Tyranids I saw today made it pretty clear that they are HP Lovecraft "homage". Tho the video wasn't at all saying anything like that, it wasn't hard for me to see it after having consumed quite a bit of Lovecraft.
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May 6, 2021 01:26
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MariusLecter posted:A video talking about Tyranids I saw today made it pretty clear that they are HP Lovecraft "homage". Tho the video wasn't at all saying anything like that, it wasn't hard for me to see it after having consumed quite a bit of Lovecraft. hot take but i wish the tyranids got a necron level rewrite sometimes. like i like a big Hivemind horror faction and i legit like the cults but i wish there was more going on then galactus meets xenomorphs.
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May 6, 2021 03:19
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Dapper_Swindler posted:hot take but i wish the tyranids got a necron level rewrite sometimes. like i like a big Hivemind horror faction and i legit like the cults but i wish there was more going on then galactus meets xenomorphs. FUTURE OF THE TYRANIDS! THE NEXT MAJOR HIVE FLEET? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HUrJNJlILlk
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May 6, 2021 04:00
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Demiurge4 posted:Is this still canon? I thought they were retconning the Dark Imperium series since Plague War hasn't had a sequel for like 3 years now. My understanding is the story is still canon but they are retconning when it takes place in the timeline of the indomitus crusade. Moving it up instead of being at the end. They'll be rereleasing them and changing a few things to make the new timeline make sense but the overall story stays. And they've officially said they are working on the 3rd book. So I quit my job and am starting a business. Having to sell off my entire 40k book collection. Gonna be about $20k when all is said and done. 40k hardcovers and LEs have really jumped in value the past few years.
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May 6, 2021 05:33
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D-Pad posted:
That is quite the collection! Good luck with your business, let us know if we can support it in any way
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May 6, 2021 06:24
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Miguel Prado posted:Mortis reflection: I learned recently that a Commissar in the Inquisitor Martyr game was named Tybald Gustafsson. Which was kinda hilarious to me as a fellow Scandi.
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May 6, 2021 14:31
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DxFQPSog0Go "If you’re not familiar, Gaunt’s Ghosts are the protagonists of the long-running series depicting the trials and tribulations of Ibram Gaunt and his ill-fated Astra Militarum regiment. Faithful readers of the books no doubt have a soft spot for the original cast who served as their Colonel-Commissar’s most trusted retainers. Well, they’re back! They’ve been redesigned in plastic to create a reimagined set of miniatures that really brings each of the key characters from the early Gaunt’s Ghosts books to life."
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May 6, 2021 15:47
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Arcsquad12 posted:What does Mortis do wrong with the Titan fights? I haven't read it. it just goes on way way way too long. there's no sense of lethality, risk, or really anything particularly interesting. characterizations are one note at best, and all in all it was just super meh. I hated everything about the titan fights tbqh. also it kept saying "the Fire Wasp did X" or "the titan charged its Plasma Annihilator" and it just felt like way too many in-universe names, with minimal explanation, and also it failed to make me give a poo poo. the non-titan parts of the book ranged from fine the "boetarch" stuff w/ Keeler was OK, but I didn't really get the point to good, in particular I loved the Oll reveal, and I thought his section of the adventure was by far the best.
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May 6, 2021 16:00
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Laughing Zealot posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DxFQPSog0Go All that and they didn't even try (again) to give Bragg his spotlight shoot at the end.
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May 6, 2021 16:09
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It is Bragg. Makes sense they'd need to try again.
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May 6, 2021 16:21
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How are the fabius bile books? Thinking about reading through either them or the black legion ones after Im done with Dune.
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May 6, 2021 17:28
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AnEdgelord posted:How are the fabius bile books? Thinking about reading through either them or the black legion ones after Im done with Dune. Some people like them, I found them passable at best. Maybe they get better after the first, but I didn't make it that far. Black Legion rules.
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May 6, 2021 17:36
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VanSandman posted:Some people like them, I found them passable at best. Maybe they get better after the first, but I didn't make it that far. This is pretty much how I feel about them as well. Primogenitor was.. fine, definitely not the worst 40k book, but nothing really grabbed me. The first BL book is amazing, second is good but not as good as the first, imo.
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May 6, 2021 17:39
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Laughing Zealot posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DxFQPSog0Go
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May 6, 2021 18:06
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It's hard to not recommend Black Legion before the Bile books because they're good and fun. I loved the part in the second book where they meet someone from the Imperium and find out how it's changed.
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May 6, 2021 18:07
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AnEdgelord posted:How are the fabius bile books? Thinking about reading through either them or the black legion ones after Im done with Dune. I like them more than most, and I would rate them three, four, and two stars, in that order. Fabius is an excellent amoral anti-hero IMO, and the books are worth reading just to see his perspective, as well as to get a very close look at the Emperor's Children from someone who despises what they've become and yet is forever tied to them. And the second book has a self-contained story arc that's complete and satisfying on its own, which is why I rate it the best of the three. The biggest problem with the trilogy is that his epic arc is forced to go nowhere for the sake of the larger 40k universe, where he's a side character at best. At the end of the third book, his great project that will remake Mankind gets shoved into a fridge, and his perfectly melodramatic and long-foreshadowed tragic death gets immediately nullified. In the epilogue everything is back to the status quo like a Simpson episode, and it's insanely awkward, you can practically feel Games Workshop rubbing their dicks all over the pages. I would bet good money that Reynolds begged BL to let him have Fabius die permanently, and was denied like ADB already was. So he wrote the last book as if the death was final in every way, and left the epilogue as jarring as possible to basically wink to the readers "yeah, you guys know what my head-canon is".
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May 6, 2021 18:42
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You're probably right. That was Josh Reynolds last BL book, and he's publically said he left because they kept shooting down his cool ideas.
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May 6, 2021 19:08
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Agreed, and yeah, the second book is excellent and the ending is perfect in every way.
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May 6, 2021 19:25
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The Iron Rose posted:it just goes on way way way too long. there's no sense of lethality, risk, or really anything particularly interesting. characterizations are one note at best, and all in all it was just super meh. I hated everything about the titan fights tbqh. I enjoyed the descriptions of the Dies Irae and it's court of demon-titans, and that the Fire Wasps crews had hairstyles like wacky punks, but that's about all.
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May 6, 2021 19:27
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The ending of the trilogy would’ve been the perfect opportunity to reveal the chaos equivalent to primaris
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May 6, 2021 19:30
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Deptfordx posted:You're probably right. from everything I’ve heard BL runs on a two tier system where if you’re Abnett or a few other heavy hitters you get to do stuff like invent an entire new magic system of the setting or a new subspecies of immortal human or give the Primarchs a mother or bring back Constantin Valdor in M41 and if you’re anyone else you write by numbers. Same way they supposedly have open submission calls but in practice only publish people with preexisting connections to the franchise
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May 6, 2021 19:31
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Deptfordx posted:You're probably right. He did really good on AoS with new and cool ideas. It's a shame he could not just stay on for that even if he had to ditch 40k.
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Deptfordx posted:You're probably right. He later clarified that the thread he posted that stuff in was largely sarcastic, and that he was really just looking to branch out from genre fiction and have more creative control. He knew what he was getting into as a senior editor for a publisher affiliated with a merchandise franchise, and he just hit a limit, he didn't storm off in a huff by any account. Abnett exists in his own tier because he's the guy who literally brought BL into feasibility. The BL/GW divide is pretty note worthy as there's no true "canon" and really just a bunch of atmospheric approaches to the universe. Abnett is allowed to develop as he pleases because he has the experience to do so.
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