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Thewittyname posted:Seriously? Was this in a codex or White Dwarf or what? He was kidding. Unless that one planet they came across early in the HH series that believed IT was really Earth actually was.
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Yeah he sure does. As much as I love Abnett's stuff, ADB is the best writer in the Black Library. Right now I'm almost done with Legion of the Damned by Rob Sanders and it's surprisingly decent for bolter porn with pretty good characterization and dialogue. Plus he wrote this sentence about a Chaos army, "The Cholercaust’s slaughterkin, united in common purpose: to work through the private deviancy of their murderous inclination while simultaneously feeding their faith and daemon deity with acts of wanton annihilation." which you have to admit is metal as gently caress. It isn't top tier for the BL, but it shows promise and is one of the better of the Battles series. Ok, and this bit too. quote:Those who had regressed. Those who were now no more than agonising expressions of the savagery from which they were originally crafted. The Scourge favoured these with the Thunderhawk’s remaining wrath. With 1.00 calibre mercy, the Scourge ended their torment and that of their followers. See, it's 1.00 calibre mercy because he's using the heavy bolters on a crashed gunship. At least when he gets tired of writing about endless carnage he goes mad in amusing ways.
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Jul 31, 2012 07:35
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Thulsa Doom posted:The Horus Heresy should be a little overblown. The moment when Magnus crashes the Emperor's webway gate, the second most important moment in the Heresy, should be a little pompous and overblown. That's The Grim Darkness of the Far Future being born right there, in that conversation. It's not like Magnus is going to be all like "wassup". Absolutely. Vast powers are involved in this and the fate of the galaxy is changed. Mundane language would be wrong here, especially since its from Magnus' perspective.
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Aug 26, 2012 22:18
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Arquinsiel posted:Whoever wrote the script for Space Marine was pretty aware of it too. Please O Emperor, let them make another 40k game with an even cooler version of that engine. Playable orks would be nice, thanks.
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Aug 27, 2012 05:54
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Rapey Joe Stalin posted:Exactly. There is the aspect of it being a holy book to some, then there is the fundamental truth that it is meant the greatest military treatise ever committed to paper. Correct. In one of the Heresy books Guilliman distributes copies of the first edition with orders to follow it faithfully. The Ultramarine officers follow along, have absolutely no idea why they're moving their troops around like they are, and then they end up with a crushing victory over the Traitors in a brilliant maneuver battle as everything comes together at once. It's that subtle and that good.
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Aug 27, 2012 19:57
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Fried Chicken posted:So I wrapped up the Night Lords series, and I just want confirmation on how I interpreted the epilogue That's the way I read it.
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Aug 29, 2012 18:27
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MisterFuzzles posted:Speaking of ADB, check out a fanwork. Talos aboard the Echo circa start of Void Stalker Oh hey, what's this ? 
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Aug 31, 2012 08:10
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Fuzzy Pipe Wrench posted:I saw someone mention the white scars will get a HH book. I agree that would be cool seeing as how they've mostly been ignored so far. Wouldn't mind a salamanders or raven guard book either. As long as we're wishing out loud, how about an Imperial Army HH book ?
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Sep 1, 2012 19:15
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Arquinsiel posted:They kind of did both of those things. The second one on no less than two occasions. I think the fun idea is that High Command has hired some Freeboterz as mercenaries and the Ghosts just have to put up with them. You could also have some of the Ghosts detached as cadre and liason to the Orks, but that's getting into fanfic territory.
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Sep 14, 2012 01:29
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Shroud posted:You almost have that in Sacrifice. There's a few short stories where you learn that the Grey Knights' armor is sanctified through the sacrifice of psykers and their ammo is also sanctified in the blood of "good" people who are executed. Sacrifice is a damned good story, and a terrific check on the worst of the fanboys.
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Dec 14, 2012 18:10
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Fuzzy Pipe Wrench posted:I've always gone with T'Natch. Totally incorrect, but I figure 40K deserves it for what it's done to latin. I'm no scholar, but High Gothic deserves far worse than this: http://youtu.be/IIAdHEwiAy8
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Feb 3, 2013 05:33
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Ardent Communist posted:Carrion Anthem's pretty good, if it's the one I'm thinking about. Bout how an PDF commander who doesn't have an ear for music and his attempts to defend against a Typhon engineered song that you can only sing if you hear it. Goes into how his attempted solutions are just as mad as the initial plague. That's an excellent story. It's well written and it plays out like a horror movie. I'd love to see it adapted as a screenplay, except the audio mix would kill the production staff and then eat our world.
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Mar 1, 2013 08:42
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Helicon One posted:Its been a while since I actually picked up a 40K book, what's been released in the last 18 months or so that I should read? The Ahriman: Exile book discussed recently really is quite good. I forget if there's any required reading before that (since I've done it).
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Mar 10, 2013 23:17
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So I started the Soul Drinkers series. Right at the start Ben Coulter introduces one of the most 40k things ever. Soul Drinkers listen to music in their drop pods, but not recordings. The pods have a choir of servitors that are just faces and vox units. How badly do you have to gently caress up for THAT to be your fate ? There are lots of references to criminals being repurposed as servitors, but very few references to anyone actually suffering that fate.
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May 16, 2013 08:11
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Shroud posted:For anyone thinking of buying Daenyathos, watch out. That $11.99 you think you're paying for an actual novel? You're paying for ~ 100+ pages, actually. gently caress BL and their lovely ebook pricing. Vastly overpriced, but it's about the only thing published about the Age of Apostasy, M36 or so.
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Jun 1, 2013 09:19
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hopterque posted:That's basically the core theme of 40k, as someone posted above. I also think that the end of the Dark Age of Technology and the crash of human civilization is associated with  . Turns out we can blame the Eldar, but Imperial policy is firmly against research not conducted by the Mechanicus. Even they tend to focus more on recovering lost wonders than is blazing new theoretical ground.The Emperor's "plan" now is to gather in all the souls of those who died in his name and then go Ragnarok on the Chaos gods with 10,000 years worth of humanity's heroes at his (mental) side.
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Jun 1, 2013 22:44
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Kurzon posted:The Grey Knights have never been corrupted by Chaos because they are super-believers in the Emperor (this sounds kinda insulting to the other Chapters - are they not so zealous?). The Sisters of Battle get supernatural powers based on their Faith, yet they have no psykers among their ranks. This seems to suggest that the Emperor does have some sort of divine presence in the Warp, that he's more than just a glorified lighthouse. What's the true explanation? Is he a proper god, or is he just an uber-powerful psyker who is half-dead? Faith in the Emperor has been producing miracles in his name since the days of the Great Crusade. He is absolutely more than just a lighthouse. I'm going with uber half-dead psyker, but one that really does watch over the Empire and, of course, protects his faithful. The interesting question to me is, what happens with the souls he is said to gather when the faithful fall ? If he's preparing for something, then there's a potentially huge resource for some sort of Armageddon.
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Jun 9, 2013 23:24
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VanSandman posted:Their business practices are kind of poo poo, and they don't license things out. Seriously, get a weekly comic going, people would eat that poo poo up. Which is weird, because their financial reports call out licensing revenue as a big chunk of their profits, about 30% a year. I'd expect them to be looking to increase that revenue, but the report seems pretty offhand about the millions of extra dollars they got.
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Jun 14, 2013 23:08
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Cross Aeon Flux' R-rating and ultraviolence with The Clone Wars' Band of Brothers in space approach in a 40K series and you'd make bank. The opportunities for developing the brand are phenomenal. As long as you don't gently caress with the core tenets of the setting, GW has always played the continuity a little loose. After all, it's a big universe. There's such scope for putting awesomeness on the screen that it's just sad every year when they don't start a media project.
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Jun 16, 2013 08:12
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Let's not forget that in a very real way, the Astartes are all grandchildren of the Emperor. There's plenty of spots in canon where Inquisitors or other zealots are uncomfortable with how they regard the Emperor. There are also plenty of incidents where the Astartes properly venerate the God Emperor. 40K is a big tent, there's at least one of everything in there.
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Jun 19, 2013 03:31
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If you're playing Inquisitor stuff, then postpone Gaunt's Ghosts. You'd want series that fill in what's going on behind the lines. The Shira Calpurnia series by James Swallow would be perfect; Enforcer, Legacy, Blind. There were also two novels about an inquisitor's warband cut off and on their own trying to solve the mystery and survive inter-Ordo craziness. I forget whor ead them but you want those. Even the Ciaphas Cain books would be closer to the kind of material you should be reading first.
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Jun 20, 2013 09:42
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VanSandman posted:Ok gonna sperg a bit here. Bolt pistols don't shoot proper bullets, they shoot little grenades attached to rockets. As such, they aren't going as fast as they can go at close range. If a bolt isn't going fast enough, it might not penetrate. A long-las, on the other hand, is just as lethal from any range. And any armor piercing round can glance off of a rounder surface like you'd find on a helmet. Larkin is probably the best shot in the sector so that hot shot went exactly where it needed to be. The very few mortals who can take on a traitor marine with any hope at all tend to be the sort you write novels about.
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Jun 30, 2013 01:28
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UberJumper posted:Then shouldn't varl have been gibbed by the resulting explosion of the bolter rounds? Or do bolter rounds only explode after getting to a certain speed? Oh right. Rawne's a damned good shot too. Astartes are indeed gods on the battlefield, it's just that they were up against the best special ops team in the gaalxy.
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Is it a safe assumption that the birth of Slaanesh caused the warp storms that wrecked the first human galactic civilization ?
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Alchenar posted:....and there's a fluff piece either written or waiting to be written saying that the shitstorm in the warp they caused is what attracted the Tyranids to our galaxy from the void in the first place. Way to kill the entire galaxy twice over.
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Alchenar posted:The fluff is also really confusingly written on this point: the Astronomicon is powered by psykers taken to Earth who have their lifespan significantly shortened by being strapped into the thing, but those are different to the thousands of psykers sacrificed every day to the Golden Throne to keep the Emperor alive. Let's face it, getting tapped for the Astronomicon choir was never a good thing at any point; before, after, or during the Great Crusade. Shutting down the Astronomicon would be like a modern day American advocating the destruction of the interstate highway system, the national rail network, and every airport capable of landing a cargo plane of any significant capacity. This doesn't cover warp-related effects, which would be systemic in any society in that setting.
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I don't see Omegon, he should be on his hands and knees behind Guilliman so Alpharius can push him back and trip him. And why the hell is Corax looking at porn ?
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Jul 5, 2013 11:41
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Halfway through Angel Exterminatus trip report: 1. Nice to see Fulgrim and Perturabo's backgrounds and childhoods. 2. "Gothic. Do you speak it ?" ADB rules the Black Library. 3. Every book he appears in makes Fabius Bile more of a primary target. He needs to get got. mllaneza fucked around with this message at 11:18 on Jul 12, 2013 |
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Jul 12, 2013 11:15
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A novel with anything at all to do with Russ taking a Great Company into the Eye would be well received.
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Jul 18, 2013 10:10
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Don't worry too much about a few survivors from the virus bombardment. They were First Legion troops, you just can't wipe them all out at once with anything. If you blow up the planet they're on, worry about survivors boarding your death star on flying debris.
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Jul 24, 2013 10:16
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Funny, by none of those standards does Heinlein present a fascist society, let alone positively.
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Jul 25, 2013 02:07
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To take the Night Lords example again, they tortured billions to death by the time anyone thought to ask them to maybe tone it down a little bit.
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Jul 25, 2013 05:30
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Fried Chicken posted:It's popular since the film. It really is not defensible based on the text. You can't even argue it is authoritarian. For one, there is simply not enough there. It doesn't go in to the political system, much less the economic system or class system enough to say anything at all about the society. So far as SST talks about class or economics, the elder Mr. Rico owned his own business despite not being a "citizen". That's not terribly repressed, if at all. I'd support that Lets Read. Start with SST, and lets have some David Drake in there too. If we go by chapter (or short story) it won't take too long to get into the meat of it.
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Jul 25, 2013 06:01
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Donnerberg posted:I thought I would be reading Horus Heresy novels until they ran out of poo poo to write about, but I've reached the breaking point three shorts into Mark of Calth. It didn't help that it started with the world's most generic bolter porn. Now I'm skipping whole pages in disinterest. Stupid ADB ruining my brainless books, spoiling it with his stupid, great writing. Keep going, the quality takes a sharp upswing very soon.
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Speaking of duologies, I just read the Crusade for Armageddon duo. Don't; it was obviously cut short for quality. And the BL *never* does that. What you should read is "Relentless". That's a solid Imperial Navy novel. Not so much for space pew pew, but for character development and a good look at the sheer hell that is life for the unskilled conscript crew.
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Aug 18, 2013 00:43
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bunnyofdoom posted:Half serious, but why don't any of us try out for their submission contests. I'm sure we could write some decent short stories at least. I'm working on it. I've put down enough BL books in the first chapter or two because they're unreadably bad that I think I can do better than at least some of those idiots.
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Aug 21, 2013 18:45
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Nephilm posted:No, they're definitely a step above. Taking aside specialized training and superior equipment, Talos is a very skilled captain yet Aquillon consistently and effortlessly defeats him in seconds in every single one of their duels. They're enhanced in ways beyond the "mass produced" Astartes, and it shows. Correct. The Emperor is to the Custodes as the Primarchs are to the Astartes. They're simply built from more potent genetic stock. Then they train the gently caress out of them. They should be able to handle anything short of a demon prince or a primarch one on one. Back to book recommendations. Andy Hoare's rogue trader series is quite solid. It also has one of the few uses of the White Scars chapter in it. The first three cover the Damocles Gulf Crusade against the Tau, the next few should deal with the Hive Fleet attacking Ultramar.
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Agentdark posted:So weird question. Is it ever said what happens to the Legion Flagships after the Heresy? I recall references to the Phalanx in M41 stories, something that big would be hard to kill and probably worth putting in a novel.
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VanSandman posted:What I find odd is that as of the most recent fluff the TS were all psykers, unless I missed something. They pretty much all were pre-Heresy. At least as things stand now. In practical terms the Rubric means that for Thousand Suns you run a few sorcerers and a bunch of mindless, perfectly functional killing machines. Those last are the "Rubricae", which are those Sons ruined by Ahriman's folly.
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Demon Of The Fall posted:He's like your crazy grandpa at family reunions. But with more firepower and more  stories.
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