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A couple weeks ago I finished the Night Lords trilogy, and goddamn, all the praise for that series is more than well-deserved. I don't think there was a single weak or dull moment across all three books. All the characters stood out from each other and were entertaining as well as memorable, and the ending was perfect, if not a little bittersweet. (Void Stalker) Even though the Night Lords did some horrific poo poo, especially in that book, it was still sad to see them go. All of it happened because Talos desperately wanted to give meaning to himself and his Legion.  As inhuman as he was, it's not hard to understand Talos's desire to avoid having his brothers remain as raiders with no meaning or long-term desires. I also enjoyed the relationship between Xarl and Talos. They had a lot of hate and resentment for each other, but they still felt the most like brothers to me. Their bonds were definitely the deepest in the story, which I guess is expected because of their past. Those two alone sold me on how even though Chaos Marines are infamous traitors, they can still keep their deep bonds with their legion brothers (well, some can). I would highly recommend the trilogy to anyone in this thread who hasn't read them yet. I think I enjoyed it more than Eisenhorn.I recently got started on the Horus Heresy, too. I love it when 40k books have a heavy focus on the characters instead of just being bolter porn, so I hope a lot of the books have plenty of emphasis on the Primarchs and their relationships with each other and their legions. I really enjoyed Horus Rising, and I'm already deep into False Gods. Why are these books so addictive? 
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Speaking of ADB, he just mentioned on his twitter that he's writing a new short story about First Claw. 
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Arquinsiel posted:What is it about 40k that compels the inflicting of avatars on one-another? It seems to be the number one cause of avatars bought for people that isn't brony invasions. 40k fans are inherently frivolous with their money. 
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ADB's Night Lords trilogy is arguably the best that 40k has to offer, so hell yeah you should read them. The only other books I'd compare them to in terms of quality are ADB's Heresy novels.
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Fulgrim and Galaxy in Flames are really the only ones of those I'd recommend reading. Neither are perfect but they had their moments. Don't worry man, soon we'll have a whole year of new Abnett and ADB.
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Nov 23, 2013 22:07
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ADB talks about playing an Apothecary in his RPGs a lot, so it's no surprise he makes the Apothecaries the best characters. I'm sure in his upcoming Black Legion series there will be at least one insanely awesome Apothecary character.
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FrozenDorf posted:Anyone remember the old GW-themed Bolt Thrower stuff? I can't be the only person who liked that... right? Everyone loves the Realm of Chaos album, don't worry. World Eater is a staple of their live shows. WOOOOORLD EATERRRRRR! 
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Amdis posted:I just finished Helsreach and I'm about to start Blood and Fire. Any other space marine battle books worth reading? Legion of the Damned and Battle of the Fang.
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May 12, 2014 20:02
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It's kinda funny Horus convinced half his brothers to become untrustworthy and selfish for the sake of power/freedom, and then whines when they... are untrustworthy and selfish.
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Feb 9, 2020 20:03
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Are any of the Primarch books good? I've been checked out for like 5 years so I don't know if any authors besides Abnett and ADB have become worth reading.
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Thanks for the recommendations guys! I picked up the last BL humble bundle, and after working through the readable ones I'll start chewing through the newer stuff. This thread is the only place I trust because any other 40k lore community cares more about consuming all available fictional knowledge than actual quality of writing. Oh, and there's a lot less suspicious sympathy towards the Imperium here, that too.
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It’s very funny to me when nerds bray about maturity (or grimdarkness here), and then immediately show their idea of mature is just hyperviolence and saying gently caress a lot. I thought that was mature when I was 12, too. Or they think 40k is getting less grimdark and more SJW because there’s more women characters being written in, which is an actual criticism I’ve read about ADB. 
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Mar 8, 2020 09:46
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I finished The First Heretic last night and of course it's the true villains of the setting, the Ultramarines, that act as the Emperor's lapdogs that instigates the Word Bearer's galaxy burning crisis of faith. Death to the sons of Ultramar. 
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In 40k, are there any examples of mortals being granted incredible power, or is that reserved just for heretical marines? At best, mortal worshipers get to enjoy brief moments of their god's attention before exploding into gore as a sacrifice (though being chosen for that is the reward for some). It seems like fantasy chaos is a much more level playing field since you don't have genetically enhanced post-humans to compete with.
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... Good point! Forgot about them.
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I'm halfway through Betrayer and didn't realize until too late that Know No Fear covered the stuff I wasn't understanding. I'll read it next and work backwards on the details I missed. At least I read First Heretic beforehand so I know the deal behind Lorgar and Argel Tal. I read it weeks ago and I still think about the ending. Ending your oath of silence to say "I always hated you, Xaphen" is an amazing way to go out before getting ripped to shreds by possessed space marines. And "I'm your brother now" is the perfect encapsulation of the bitter regret instilled in the more coherent heretics. ADB writes chaos exactly the way I want them to be. I need to re-read Night Lords sometime. Marin Karin fucked around with this message at 09:15 on Mar 30, 2020 |
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It will never stop being funny to me that the Emperor was like "yeah we'll turn your lovely old dad into a post-human warmachine" for Lorgar, but couldn't be assed to spend 2 minutes killing Angron's slave masters. Angron is as justified as he is unstable.
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I felt it's kind of long-term manipulation since it's established early on that (nothing here from past the first half) KP and Erebus secretly kept the "old faith" alive, which was really just chaos worship. Then they waited for Lorgar to have the slightest crisis of faith to take advantage of. The moment he gets yelled at by daddy, they knock on his door together and ask him if he's heard the good word. Lorgar hears voices pre-corruption, but that's just the raw deal behind being psychic and never being told "Hey boys, careful because there's malevolent entities out there that are gonna seep into your mind." The seeds were there, and Lorgar was too charismatic for his own good so every WB would follow him down whatever path he took. The book made me like Lorgar because he didn't fit into the toxic masculinity of the astartes lifestyle, knew that and never pretended to so he could focus on what he did enjoy, and was hated by his family for it. I saw him as an artsy son with a lovely football dad who dismisses his son's achievements and WHY CAN'T YOU BE LIKE DORN *throws beer bottle against the wall* I began to like the Word Bearers a lot... outside of the dynamic duo leading them now. I hope to see a Lorgar 40k model now that he's done painting his Menoth army in the warp. Marin Karin fucked around with this message at 23:26 on Apr 3, 2020 |
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the new cooking sororitas game is just orkware mining my switch for ork-coin
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Cavill as someone who fails upwards because of his good looks and luck is what I was thinking. He's played enough competent heroes, he needs to be a handsome idiot a few times. E: The Lion is a handsome idiot so he wouldn't even have to be a minor character for that.
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That is nice! I was just thinking the other day that I wish HB would do another Warhammer one. If anyone new to 40k is here, I think every tier has multiple books worth reading (and constantly get recommended in this thread) so it's a really great bundle. I already own most of the stuff in the upper tiers, but not much from the first one. I've never read any Cain, so I'm happy to see what his deal is after hearing about those books for years. Marin Karin fucked around with this message at 19:52 on Apr 15, 2020 |
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Apr 15, 2020 19:49
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Ego-bot posted:The nice thing about the Cain books is that you only have to read one. Haha, yeah, I've heard this about them too. That makes this pretty convenient!
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MariusLecter posted:I am Alpharius. (Deliverance Lost) I last read Legion. You're Alpharius, he's Alpharius, I'm Apharius. Are there any other Alpharius' I need to know about??
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I've always wondered what their 40k mentality is like. "No, no, I'm only ironically possessed by a daemon" is how it feels.
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It's a big thing right now to always try and outsmart the audience, even at the cost of telling a coherent story. It's genuinely sad to me if a successful person cares at all about tricking Reddit, but it happens.
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Imperials killing each other because of heated decisions based on biased suspicions is pretty standard 40k to me. I think it's good to have a reminder that space marines aren't the highest authority, and aren't even the most individually strong soldiers in the Imperium. The Flesh Tearers do MK fatalities on their allies on a daily basis, so I don't think a custodes taking out a marine for not obeying is too far. SM needed to be on the wrong end of the imperium's fascist wet dream for once, even if it burst the power fantasy bubble for a lot of people.
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Necromunda is just a specific setting about street gangs in 40k. I haven't read the book in question but I'm sure it's fine to read by itself.
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The biggest, meanest, most violent monster being named after Margaret Thatcher is really good, though.
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The fact they still stick up for Uzas is what really transcends their relationship from simple hateful bickering to something truly great. We all despise each other, but gently caress you if you talk poo poo about my brother.
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I thought it was some intern fuckup by GW, but good on them for being so uniformly staunch on their stance against him. Sad that not willing to work with a literal nazi is a position most companies won't take.
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Orks are only non-horror if it's from the perspective of the orks. Put yourself in the place of someone from Helsreach or 15 Hours and it's a horror story about your impending death from a swarm of teeth and muscle.
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There is a lot of profit to be made by just reskinning other games as 40k ones. Is that creatively bankrupt? Yes. Would I buy any halfway decent one? Also yes.
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