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Sextro
Aug 23, 2014

So I was bought an audiobook from the black library. I bought Betrayer and was generally pretty happy with how well done it was. Now I crave more of the same quality. Most of the samples I've listened to on the black library website left me feeling pretty cold. Has anyone else given it a listen and know of others on the same level?

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Sextro
Aug 23, 2014

This isn't what I wanted.

Sextro
Aug 23, 2014

VanSandman posted:

Lessee, Know No Fear is good. I don't know if there's an audiobook for it yet though.

Oh yeah. I've read most of the books you folks seem to suggest around here and have been filling in older stuff I hadn't seen before. Betrayer I actually read but after getting a copy of it figured I'd give it a listen since my commute sucks. After it was over Know No Fear is actually the first thing I looked for an audiobook of, I really wanted to find one too.

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Aug 23, 2014

MMAgCh posted:

But how can he not really want to work toward writing the allegedly horrible death of Ravenor? :mad:

To be fair, the guy is a pile of organs in a floating box. His existence is horrible. Just dying of old age or an infection would suck.

Sextro
Aug 23, 2014

I'm years out of date on my black library readings, is there anywhere with a big easy to read list of titles and one sentence summaries of the books? I'm out of the loop enough I can't even be certain about what I've already read since I mostly just borrow books from the library.

Sextro
Aug 23, 2014

Reading Dark Imperium, I really wish there was a short story (or series of) about the Chrinostrife. Is that already a thing?

Sextro
Aug 23, 2014

IshmaelZarkov posted:

I think it was in the AOSO2.0 rulebook, but there was a great take on Slaanesh where the mortal followers of the other gods are most terrified of Slaanesh, because if they fall too deeply into excess in worship to their patron, that counts as Slaanesh worship.

Like, Khorne cares not from where the blood flows, but He expects YOU to care, and if you just indulge too much in that blood flowing then you might as well become a Slaanesh follower.

That's stupid and further proof that fantasy is trash. Blood for the Blood God.

Sextro
Aug 23, 2014

I keep seeing people referencing a "psychic awakening" where is that lore from? Also I've literally never read anything with Corax, is he in any good books?

Sextro
Aug 23, 2014

Listening to the nightlord audiobooks for the first time (read it the first time) and it really stands out how often ADB reminds the reader(listener) that everyone is standing around in growling power armor the color of midnight. Also red eye lenses, skull faced helm, and more!

I don't mind it in audiobook format though, really helps paint a picture in my mind.

E: I also love that some phrases read like placeholders. "I'll serve you some of whatever passes for fine alcohol in a place like the one you and I both live in"

Sextro fucked around with this message at 19:40 on Apr 12, 2020

Sextro
Aug 23, 2014

Suggest some black library audiobooks to burn an audible credit on!

I've read most of the popular suggestions in here, except for anything Horus Heresy that's come out between Betrayer and Siege of Terra. I'm open to re-experiencing any that have particularly excellent audiobook versions though. Just wrapped up listening to the Night Lord's trilogy after having read it and I loved it as much as reading it through the first time.

Sextro
Aug 23, 2014

Thanks for the suggestions! I can't recall very much about Helsreach despite remembering loving it. Going with that audiobook :D

Sextro
Aug 23, 2014

Amazon keeps recommending the Cacharodon books. They any good?

Sextro
Aug 23, 2014

Speaking of Ferrus Manus, what's his/his legions deal anyway? I don't think I've ever even read anything with him or any of his guys in it.

Afaik he's just the primarch so lovely lorgar managed to dunk on him so hard he died without even having an epic battle.

Sextro
Aug 23, 2014

Telsa Cola posted:

Weird liquid metal hands and cybernetics. Legion speciality is crippling body dysmorphia to the point that the marines basically try to be as cyborged up as possible.

This results in them barely have any emotion (besides hate and self loathing) and warp signature.

They are also brutal as gently caress as a result of their self hatred and lack of emotion.

Any good books?

Sextro
Aug 23, 2014

Try the audiobook of any Siege of Terra books you struggle to read. The production values get them across the finish line easily.

Sextro
Aug 23, 2014

Biplane posted:

Honestly I just think the others just plain wrote better books. The voice of the characters feels all wrong and the pithy comic book dialogues rubbed me the wrong way. I think I commented on this earlier in the thread but I think Sigismund even says hell yeah at one point.

This really threw me for a loop. Especially on a re-listen through the audiobook.

Sextro
Aug 23, 2014

Finished up Infinite and Divine, bolt-porn segments really did feel like clunky-add-ons to an otherwise really fun romp.

I can't stop imagining that 1/2 the time Orikan/Trazyn were snarking at each other via "interstitials" that they were just spamming necron memes.

Sextro
Aug 23, 2014

Sephyr posted:

That might have been the worst primarch-fight in the lore so far, but yeah.

I guess it didn't help that there was a looong inflation of Primarchs just popping around all over the galaxy to fight each other in the early heresy, so now, at the final lap, where it -should- feel momentous and meaningful, it's old hat.

Hell, trying to do a timeline of Konrad Curze's appearances through the Heresy would drain the sanity of anyone trying it, because apparently they pulled his name out of a hat when asking "Who is going to be the maniacal Joker primarch that pops up everywhere to be owned by the loyalists?"

At first he's at the second wave on the Dropsite Massacre. Then he's waaay far off, trying to turn the Dark Angels, gets stabbed, recovers, then tries to hold the first Legion at bay for a couple of years. Invades their flagship again, gets captured with his veterans. Escapes, somehow pops up elsewhere to torment Vulkan, gets his rear end kicked. I think at some point he appears alone in Calth or some other ultramarine world. Then he's fighting the Blood Angels and is shot into space.

I'm likely forgetting something; it's like every other primarch kept rolling a random encounter table. "Let's roll the d20.... 8! A wild Konrad Curze appears! Again!"

I mean. They travel through the warp to go places. That does stuff.

Sextro
Aug 23, 2014

mdemone posted:

Hey if anyone in here plays Combat Cards on iOS, I started a goon clan: Awful Astartes is now accepting players.

Join clan ID "L6PHQ"

Checking it out now, and is it me or are tau OP???

Also it’s set to private so I don’t see how to join.

Sextro fucked around with this message at 01:35 on May 4, 2021

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Aug 23, 2014

Warden posted:

Ok, it's just me then, because that's not what healthy 55-year-olds look to me. I am used to men in their late 60s, early 70s looking like that.
That's a good point.

It isn’t just you

Sextro
Aug 23, 2014

Arcsquad12 posted:

Yeah but I want a book about a cavalry troop of oddball sentinel pilots as the protagonists.

Fire Caste by Peter Fehervari, has both a cavalry troop of sentinel pilots and they're very much oddballs! It's also kinda great on its own.

Sextro
Aug 23, 2014

Kevin DuBrow posted:

I was reading the Cawl hacking scene from The Great Work and it struck me how similar cyberspace battles and psychic battles are written in 40k. When psykers fight, it's often written that they focus their energy onto a psychic construct like a shark or something and you have an imaginary shark and imaginary eagle bite and claw at each other. In infosphere battles the security system is described as sending spiteful data genies and building cyber walls. It's all a bit silly but not badly written.

AFAICT the noosphere is basically an attempt to imitate some beneficial aspects of the warp mashed up with cyberpunk style netrunning. There's the whole thing during the heresy when noospheric networks can conduct the light of the astronomicon and so the data-plagues and whatnot don't wreck up the forges that were using the tech when the Dark Mechanicus made their move.

So, it actually makes a lot of sense, sorta, to have psyker and cyber battles be basically the same.

Sextro
Aug 23, 2014

I’m really rather excited for all the people reading Fire Caste, I saw someone mention it in here way back and ended up reading it and really digging it. Even after having been really impressed with recent black library works by many other authors this really stood out to me as something unique in the black library.

Sextro
Aug 23, 2014

I’ve changed my mind and part way through, and I am now confident that Gate of Bones is in fact 5/5 real good just for having a custodian telling random traitors the emperor actually isn’t a god before offing them.

Sextro fucked around with this message at 01:56 on Jul 17, 2021

Sextro
Aug 23, 2014

Improbable Lobster posted:

They're my Big Favourites and I'm glad they're getting more development and characters and such lately

I’m curious to read more about them, any recommendations?

Sextro
Aug 23, 2014

Magnus thinking he knows something and then being wrong is like his entire Thing. I’d probably take it with a grain of salt.

Sextro
Aug 23, 2014

So reading the Chris Wraight Space Wolf books, and I’m half way through Stormcaller. And I’m starting to speculate: Are they gonna do a Great Awakening/upcoming 42k story thing where belief makes things real and the wolves really are special and use the power of their planet’s world spirit and not the warp itself.

Sextro
Aug 23, 2014

BL books are probably just one series away from just delineating plot armor as a measurable stat and part of the universe that characters talk about and interact with.

Sextro
Aug 23, 2014

Broken Record Talk posted:

Warhawk absolutely has some awesome back and forth on the nature of Chaos and its worshipers.

The fight between Kharn and Sigismund, presented through Kharn's eyes was absolutely masterful. Seeing Kharn go "Oh, poo poo, you're loving NUTS dude! was one of my favorite moments in the series as a whole. Arida's "stupid child, you're huffing your own farts and trying to brag about how smart you are" comment to Eribus was an :iceburn: :master: Majorly disappointed that she's now dead, especially that she seemingly served almost no purpose in the overall plot.

I mean. Uh. You remember why Erebus came to visit her right?

Sextro
Aug 23, 2014

Twice Dead King has a line early on where it's suggested the best counter to the angst is to be a turbonerd. The two old men in I&D are the prototypical turbonerds. It's consistent and I don't even know if anyone meant it to be.

Sextro
Aug 23, 2014

ADB made Khayon into a Mary Sue because he had to spend his Mary Sue energy somewhere after pouring so much effort into demonstrating how first claw and the night lords in general, suck.

Sextro
Aug 23, 2014

Gravitas Shortfall posted:

Khayon is a Mary Sue who spends an entire book completely failing to kill one dude, literally the one thing Abbadon keeps him around for

Adb is an excellent writer. Yes.

Sextro
Aug 23, 2014

ADB writes losers that win big in the end and Mary Sue’s that fall over themselves trying to accomplish simple tasks. It really brings a humor to his series.

Sextro
Aug 23, 2014

The best part of WH41K is that the universe has gotten so lovely that even Chaos beings are ditching the place for the humans to have.

Sextro
Aug 23, 2014

I think it’d be the best if Russ gets spat back out of the warp having experienced exactly nothing. The whole ordeal was just 9000 years stuck in a revolving door.

Sextro
Aug 23, 2014

mllaneza posted:

I actually liked Wolftime and its Vlka Fenrika portrayal. Like Gate of Bones it was a slow burn and they really need to fix that before the series completely founders under its own weight, but they're just barely keeping up momentum with it.

I came here to basically post this having just finished Wolftime myself.

Grimnar wasn’t written like a stupid child, he was written as an old man. You don’t get to his age in his situation by trusting or accepting anything on face value. Also the logic he uses makes a lot more sense if you really feel about death the way the the Space Wolves, especially their heroes do.

Sextro
Aug 23, 2014

Sephyr posted:

As written, Chaos should have burned itself up ages ago, except for some planets of grinning plague zombies where Nurgle won.

Let's consider Khorne berserkers. These guys can barely go a minute without killing someone, and spent months at a time in warp transit on a ship filled only with friendlies. They should slaughter their crew every time, then get stranded in the void and kill each other in duels until thereis a single howling lunatic left to get blow up when the empty ship is found and zapped by some PDF. That any World Eaters exist at all is a mathematical impossibility. Between one and ten thousand years of this (dependig of warp time shenanigans) is absurd. It takes decades to make a new WE, seconds to kill one even under the 'optimal' situation.

Every BL book I have read on them had about half being punked by their own, and another quarter killed by the enemy because war is all they do. Unless the Eye of Terror has some Warcraft/Dawn of War building where you just click and more zerkers pop out, any WE shown in modern lore is a figment of your imagination.

You’re trying to apply logic to chaos lmao

Sextro
Aug 23, 2014

I’ve always just imagined after the events of any novel where a small force conquers a planet in the course of a few battles or whatever there’s a decade+ of occupation by a myriad of forces from the rest of the imperium.

Sextro
Aug 23, 2014

People have started to say things like ERP and SAP and the only things my brain can figure out are “erotic role play” and “special access programs” and that’s not helping my comprehension.

What?

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Sextro
Aug 23, 2014

:confuoot: Thanks for the explainer! Every time I try and understand anything about corporate systems I just start thinking Georges Bataille’s economic theory was fundamentally correct.

Also, has anyone else listened to the Ahriman audiobook versions? I’m looking for non-imperial pov audiobooks to listen to in general.

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