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Heh, nice Starcraft ripoff guys  Haven't been keeping up with BL for a long time, but I recently saw that the first Eisenhorn vs Ravenor novel (Pariah) is due for an October release. Stoked. Abnett was the only BL author I bothered keeping up with.
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It would also be fun to hear some opinions on the Imperial Armour books. I know they're technically Forge World and not Black Library, but there's a good deal of story and lore in them as well. I quite enjoyed the Siege of Vraks trilogy, the first Badab War book was also pretty cool. The latest one, though, The Doom of Mymeara, was just a godawful loving mess. The story itself was a complete snoozefest and I was pretty surprised to see such an absurd amount of spelling and grammatical mistakes in such a high-quality production (print-wise).
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Has anyone checked out the HH: Betrayal book from Forge World yet? Looks impressive, though I'm interested in knowing if its filled with FW's characteristic brain-fart typos and grammatical weirdness.
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sharknado slashfic posted:It might be eldar, per implications in Carrion Throne. My personal rule with BL for the past decade is to strictly avoid anything that wasn't written by Abnett or Dembski-Bowden, so I haven't read Carrion Throne, but during the epilogue of Master of Mankind Diocletian Coros descends into a ruined city somewhere under the surface of Terra where he meets the Emperor, who says that "there are those in the Cult Mechanicum among the Unifiers who surmise that I found the core of the Golden Throne here, beneath the sands of Terra. A relic, they venture, of the dark age," though the way he says it kinda implies that the Mechanicum got that all wrong? Does Carrion Throne expand on that?
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D-Pad posted:This is a very bad rule. It made sense a decade ago but you are missing out on some very good poo poo that has happened more recently. Vaults of Terra and Watcher's of The Throne are as good as anything Abnett and ADB have put out and are essential for any true fan, you are truly doing yourself a disservice by skipping them. Besides that we've got some great new authors like Mike Brooks and Robert Rath giving us Xenos POV books that are well worth reading. But I beg you, break your rule for Wraight's stuff. Fair enough, might give Carrion Throne a go once my next audible credit drops. Got burned by some real garbage early on in my 40k/HH book reading career so I've been reluctant to venture beyond authors who I know consistently put out quality stuff.
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Calax posted:I think we should take a step back just a hair, and consider that 10 years ago, McNeill and Thorpe were considered on this side of "Better" 40k authors. Nothing I've seen from the more recent authors is anywhere near as bad as CS Goto was. This was also when Abnett was more known for being a Comic Book Writer than anything. lol yup, this was very much the case when I first started reading BL, and a big reason why I only stuck with Abnett and ADB for so long. I'm planning on giving Chris Wraight a try next though, as per the recommendation by the thread hivemind.
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EmbryoSteve posted:I'm about halfway through vaults of Terra carrion throne audio book. And I recently looked at some reviews for it and lmao some reviews hate what I enjoy the most about it namely the vast time spent describing the setting of Terra. Love all of the description of the incomprehensible toil and rot of a world with 10k years of grim dark built ontop of itself. I assume 12 year Olds wrote those reviews. Just finished Carrion Throne and those parts were pretty much my favorite aspect of the book as well. I inadvertently went from the Siege of Terra books directly into this one and it was interesting to see what the place looked like ten thousand years later.
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I can't quite remember the last time I read a Warhammer Fantasy novel, before I went all 40k, all the time. Must have been one of the early Gotrek & Felix ones or something comparably ancient. I do however remember checking out the GW website after having not looked at anything Warhammer for probably a decade and seeing Age of Sigmar on the splash screen, and my first thought was "what the gently caress is this bullshit?"
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Black Griffon posted:A slow death on an imp ship is having your leg crushed by some kind of auxiliary rudder piston in subsection 4A Thetus between armor plate Beta and Trius and dying alone five days later from heavy metal and radiation poisoning, having screamed yourself hoarse. A slow death on a chaos vessel is being stretched over months until you're thin enough and transparent enough to be the lens in a gun sight and then existing like that in the untimes of the warp for aeons, feeling every moment, never sleeping, begging every day for a space battle to end you. drat, didn't know the people who made Chaos vessels were such huge fans of The Enigma of Amigara Fault.
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The only thing of McNeill I've ever read is A Thousand Sons because it was marketed as a companion piece to Prospero Burns, which I quite liked. Can't say it left me with any particular urge to read the rest of his books. That said, I checked out those two books on goodreads recently and A Thousand Sons actually has a slightly better user rating than Prospero Burns, so maybe I'm just a big dummy with bad opinions. e: \/\/ lmao Nuclear Tourist fucked around with this message at 22:15 on Jul 11, 2023 |
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What's the consensus on The Beast Arises arc? I always thought the premise was pretty fascinating with Ork death stars loving up Segmentum Solar while the Imperium is still hung over from the HH. I read the first book that Abnett wrote (I Am Slaughter) and thought it was pretty entertaining even if it was far from his best work, pretty sure I read the second one too (Predator, Prey) which I was decidedly less entertained by. I'm a bit hesitant to soldier on with the series because I noticed that there's some authors in there that I've gone out of my way to avoid so far *cough*Thorpe*cough* so I've been assuming things just devolve into the standard Space Marine action porn snoozefest. But maybe I'm missing out?
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This all seems to confirm the vibe I was getting so I think the rest of the series is going to be a hard pass. I'm pretty picky with my BL authors because life is too short to read bad books, and it sounds like one of those things where I'll have more fun reading some wiki summary of the major plot points than the books themselves.
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I feel like Helsreach is the only book I've read so far that does a good job of portraying the Orks as a terrifying unstoppable tide of Mad Max war machines rather than the goofy comic relief race with Cockney accents.
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wiegieman posted:Oh, there's way worse. It's just average, that's all, and that's really bad for an Abnett joint. Abnett's bibliography alone is beginning to approach novel length at this point, I can't imagine it's easy to consistently crank out cool poo poo when you're that hyper-productive. Don't remember particularly hating Unremembered Empire but I Am Slaughter was definitely pretty ho-hum compared to most other BL stuff he's written.
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chainchompz posted:Did anyone else hear bolt thrower as they read this post? No? Just me, ok.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SaGz0wwLppk e: fixed the embed, loving phone posting Nuclear Tourist fucked around with this message at 08:36 on Jul 29, 2023 |
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Black Griffon posted:The Heresy covers look loving silly as hell, and not in a good way. The Siege covers mostly look real fuckin good. Pretty much all of the HH/Siege of Terra novel covers are done by one guy, Neil Roberts. A lot of the early ones he did look awkward as hell and has that "baby's first 3D software art" vibe to them, but to be fair I think he's improved a lot over the years and most of the newer ones look fine.
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Kaal posted:Rogal Dorn does seem like the sort of character who would spend 13 episodes charging up.  
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I wouldn't mind if the Horus vs Emperor thing concludes in book #2 and then #3 is all about how the traitor forces GTFO out of dodge and retreat from Terra. That'd be neat.
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Pron on VHS posted:The scenes with Ra and the emperor are among the best in all of HH. Man I love MoM I can only echo that Master of Mankind is fantastic, definitely one of the best HH books IMO. Love the ending when the Custodian is talking to the Emperor and he's desperately trying to fish for answers as to how the heresy will pan out and what will happen to the Imperium. He goes "what happens now??? what comes next???" and the Emperor basically goes "gently caress if I know lmao" it's just chef's kiss. Nuclear Tourist fucked around with this message at 23:52 on Aug 26, 2023 |
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D-Pad posted:Picked this up still sealed Very cool. I sometimes think about all of the old Warhammer stuff (both Fantasy and 40k) that I picked up in the late 90's/early 00's that would be serious nostalgia bait today if I would have had the foresight to keep it.
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I also just finished the Vaults of Terra trilogy. Enjoyed it a lot, will probably be checking out some of Wraight's other stuff in the future. I was actually rooting for the bad guys in the end because I wanted to see what kind of horror show a cloned Emperor would be. I'm sure it would simply be a biological component of their ghetto Golden Throne and not at all some kind of grotesque howling out of control flesh monstrosity, no sir.
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Biplane posted:Darktide is on gamepass now, I only played the prologue so far but dang, this really looks 40k as all hell. Makes me hunger for the inquisitor first person rpg of my dreams. Not first person, but if you're after a 40k rpg fix then Rogue Trader is potentially shaping up to be extremely promising.
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Seconding Master of Mankind, that book is tight. Talon of Horus/Black Legion are great too, I find myself going back and listening to portions of both of those audiobooks every now and then.
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DAD LOST MY IPOD posted:tomorrow I’ll have to hit the snooze button on this thread to avoid spoilers but I am very excited for End and the Death 2: End and Die Harder I think I'm going to take your advice and peace out on this thread until half a month from now which is when my next audible credit drops. Audiobooks really have become my preferred method of consuming 40k literature. Also mad respect to anyone who has the mental constitution to read every single Heresy book because there's not a chance in hell I'll ever do that. e: spellung Nuclear Tourist fucked around with this message at 08:31 on Nov 4, 2023 |
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Finally got around to finishing End and the Death 2, nice to see that Abnett is back in fine form. Looking forward to part 3. My main man Keeble does a great job on the audiobook narration as usual. I especially enjoyed his death metal rendition of Samus.
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I feel like Abnett's subplot with the perpetuals has always gotten a lot of hate. I personally like it, I always thought of it as neat bit of adventure story to break up all the pew-pew with 'roided-up super soldiers. Was it Legion where he first introduced that plotline?
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The_Other posted:This showed up in my Instagram feed. seemed appropriate to post here: You laugh, but Games Workshop did launch an actual "Warhammer 40k FOR KIDZ" cutesy cartoon/book series a while back:  Still scratching my head over how this thing even exists, but here we are. You can never be too young for the grim darkness of the far future I guess.
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Sharkopath posted:I can get the train of thought, introducing new players to the hobby is good for business and the community, and scholastic/ya books are a huge market, breaking into them would have been solid income. I don't disagree with any of that, I just find it funny to see something that I've so closely associated with bleak hopelessness and humanity raging against the dying of the light suddenly being reskinned in a relatively lighthearted YA format.
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Warhammer 40k bleeds into real life:  Also I think it's time to peace out on this thread again for like a month until I get around to reading End & Death 3.
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Just finished End & Death 3. Verdict: nice I really enjoyed the part where Horus crushes the Emperor's head with Worldbreaker while mortally wounded and the aftermath is described like the Emperor got his head blown off by a tank's main gun. I was also hoping for a callback to the Eisenhorn books, since in Hereticus there is a big fight scene with a traitor Warlord titan named Cruor Vult that sends Elizabeth Bequin into a coma IIRC and it is mentioned that the titan was present at the siege of Terra but alas, it was not to be.
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FWIW I remember seeing an interview with Abnett somewhere on youtube maybe a year or two ago, and he literally said that it would be awesome if he would be allowed to write Unification Era books with Thunder Warriors and poo poo.
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I agree with the goon hivemind, Blindsight is a fantastic book. Or at least I thought so when I read it back in 2010 or so. I had to leave my signed copy of Blindsight behind during a move to a different country a decade ago, still a bit salty about that 😾
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habeasdorkus posted:We are all aspirants to Perturabo's legion, the Legion of Goons. A legion so embarrassing that it was purged from all imperial records, never to be spoken of again. Another step closer to solving the mystery of the lost space marine legions.
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One of the main plotlines in Master of Mankind is about the House Vyridion knight household and includes some sweet knight pew-pew in the webway.
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Arc Hammer posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ri5WvGW97Qs I saw someone saying that this looks like a cinematic from a 1990's RTS and yeah, it really does 
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Wow, what a loving bummer. His 40k animations are fantastic. I noticed a while back that his 40k videos were suddenly wiped off youtube I could only find them as reuploads from other random accounts. I always assumed that it was just GW bringing the cease and desist hammer down.
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Shards of Earth by Adrian Tchaikovsky tends to get suggested a lot when people are looking for 40k analogues, as it has genetically engineered lady space marines and a creepy Event Horizon dimension needed for FTL travel. It is regularly fawned over in the SF&F megathread, personally I thought it was ok but not amazing. E: As for Alastair Reynolds, he can write very good shooty stuff when he wants to. I haven't read Revenger since I'm a bit too old for YA fiction, but I always felt like some of his short stories set in the Revelation Space universe lean a bit more heavily into the gunfight action stuff than his books. Nightingale from the Galactic North short story collection comes to mind, it also has some really neat Cronenberg flavored body horror vibes going on. Nuclear Tourist fucked around with this message at 03:05 on Mar 28, 2024 |
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