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McCoy Pauley
Mar 2, 2006
Gonna eat so many goddamn crumpets.
So I just finished Pariah, and was left confused by something that I assume was supposed to be a significant character reveal at the end. Who is Alpharius? The way it was presented I assume I was supposed to recognize that character, but I didn't. For context, I've read the Eisenhorn and Ravenor omnibuses, the first Gaunt's Ghosts book, and Brotherhood of the Snake. I haven't read any of the Horus Heresy books.

EDIT: To clarify, a little googling provided me some information on who that is, but I'm not understanding the connection in the book. Perhaps I'm not meant to?

McCoy Pauley fucked around with this message at 02:42 on Nov 15, 2012

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McCoy Pauley
Mar 2, 2006
Gonna eat so many goddamn crumpets.

MisterFuzzles posted:

Going to spoiler this in case someone hasnt read Eisenhorn (Cant imagine who if you are reading this thread but hey) Like Neph said, all Alpha Legion marines identify themselves as that. They are one of the Traitor marine chapters. The whole point was to show just how far Eisenhorn has fallen and just what he will use/ally with etc "For the good of the Imperium". Because having a Daemonhost in his thrall just isn't enough.

Okay, thanks. So it's not like I'm just forgetting somebody from the three Eisenhorn books. This is something new he's been up to.

McCoy Pauley
Mar 2, 2006
Gonna eat so many goddamn crumpets.

euphronius posted:

Is it a collection of old stories or a new book?

The Amazon description says it's a new novel and a collection of the existing short stories:

"The Magos is the brand new, full-length fourth novel in the hugely popular Eisenhorn series. This paperback edition also includes the definitive casebook of Gregor Eisenhorn, collecting together all twelve of Dan Abnett’s Inquisition short stories, several of which have never been in print before. These additional stories have been compiled by the author to act as an essential prologue to this long-awaited new novel, while also serving as an indispensable companion to the original Eisenhorn trilogy."

McCoy Pauley
Mar 2, 2006
Gonna eat so many goddamn crumpets.

Crazy Joe Wilson posted:

I know this thread is mostly focused on the 40k side of fiction, but are there any Warhammer Chronicle omnibuses that should definitely be read, or are great reads? I've currently read the following;

- Gotrek and Felix V1
- Witch Hunter
- The Empire (Not Heroes or Knights, just called purely The Empire)
- Elves Omnibus

On my list to buy are;

- Gotrek and Felix V2
- Heroes of the Empire
- Tyrion and Teclis
- The Blackhearts (Omnibus is on Abebooks atm)

I'm pretty sure I don't want to read Warriors of the Chaos Wastes, I'm interested in story and character, and I'm afraid those omnibuses may just be pure combat porn-esque. I'm interested in more in the character/world setting side of things. I also would like to get the Dwarf Omnibus and Vampire Wars (Stone and Steel, I think?), but unfortunately neither are available for cheap anymore.

I don't think I've read any other Warhammer Fantasy books that I can compare them to (at least not that I can recall), but I picked up the Vampire Genevieve Omnibus, by Jack Yeovil, on the strength of Jack Yeovil being a pen name for Kim Newman, whose Anno Dracula and Diogenes Club books I've really enjoyed. The novels collected in the Genevieve Omnibus were pretty good, and it seems like the new and used paperback of the omnibus is relatively easy to track down.

McCoy Pauley
Mar 2, 2006
Gonna eat so many goddamn crumpets.

Pyrolocutus posted:

I can see the argument for Genestealer cult, but I think Tzeentch is also a strong bet unless it's a red herring as stated previously.

It kinda depends on whether he got infected before their daughter came along I think. If beforehand then it's probably not since the first offspring of a newly infected couple look pretty monstrous per the Genestealer lore, progressing to more human-looking with successive generations. Unless he got 1) infected after or 2) is one of the (very rare) non-infected human pawns.

I just finished Bloodlines this morning, and really enjoyed it -- particularly for how it was focused on something so different from what I've previously read about in 40K books -- but I must have totally missed what's being discussed here. What was going on in the book about a cult and an infection?

McCoy Pauley
Mar 2, 2006
Gonna eat so many goddamn crumpets.
I'm planning to re-read the four Eisenhorn books and three Ravenor books, and Pariah, before turning to Penitent. Are all the Eisenhorn short stories collected in Magos? Is there anything I'd be missing re: Eisenhorn if I read the Eisenhorn trilogy and Magos ?

McCoy Pauley
Mar 2, 2006
Gonna eat so many goddamn crumpets.

Arcsquad12 posted:

So the EYE Divine Cybermancy developers who did Space Hulk Deathwing apparently got another shot at 40K doing a Necromunda FPS.

https://www.polygon.com/platform/amp/22335758/warhammer-40k-necromunda-hired-gun-leak-xbox-one-series-x-first-person-shooter

Gameplay trailer is out:

https://youtu.be/MI08MPiL7WQ

Looks good. Hope springs eternal for a good video game adaptation of a 40K setting, and from time to time that hope seems to be rewarded. Maybe this time.

McCoy Pauley
Mar 2, 2006
Gonna eat so many goddamn crumpets.

Nissin Cup Nudist posted:

The Genevive books are getting a new collected edition next week

Do you know is it any new materials, or just a reprinting of the previous omnibus?



DAD LOST MY IPOD posted:

Honestly, to get the most out of Bequin you really need to read a lot. Like, the Magos and all of its accompanying short stories, plus Eisenhorn and Ravenor, and several HH books too. This book goes really, really deep with the lore.

Is there a short list of what HH books would be useful to read going into Penitent? I'm just finishing up my re-read of the Ravenor Omnibus and then Magos and Pariah, before getting into Penitent. I've never read any HH books -- it just seems like an overwhelming project -- but if there are a handful that could be read stand alone in order to give more background for Penitent, that seems feasible.

McCoy Pauley
Mar 2, 2006
Gonna eat so many goddamn crumpets.

MariusLecter posted:

Which book that's in the Ravenor omnibus has him astral projecting just violating everyone's privacy and all just noting everyone just being regular people in contrast to Molotch and himself?

There's definitely a long sequence of that in Ravenor Returned, where he's just cruising around the big hive world, checking in on what the regular folks are doing while his team goes undercover somewhere. I feel like it happens a few times, but there's at least one pretty long scene with it in Returned.

McCoy Pauley
Mar 2, 2006
Gonna eat so many goddamn crumpets.
I just finished re-reading the Ravenor omnibus in anticipation of re-reading Pariah and then starting Penitent -- actually, am finishing up Magos before starting Pariah -- but something confuses me that either I'm missing or was a thread that seems dropped somewhere among the Ravenor books:

In the first Ravenor book, when they leave Eustis Majoris and board the Hinterlight, Harlon Nayl takes Zael to visit Bequin, who is being kept in stasis in a room on the ship. After things go bad for them in Firetide at the end of the first book, the Hinterlight is too damaged to travel for awhile (and Cynia Preest is potentially unwilling to work with them any more), and so Ravenor and crew end up leaving the Hinterlight and going on Unterworth's ship. So far as I can tell, Preest and the Hinterlight don't get mentioned again until the very end of Ravenor Rogue, and so what happens to Bequin's body on the Hinterlight? The ending of Ravenor Rogue is pretty fresh in my mind, and I don't recall Preest saying anything about it when she suddenly shows up again with Ravenor, who has traveled on to her ship through the door from the Wych House. Am I correct in concluding that it's just never mentioned again in the Ravenor trilogy? Am I mis-remembering something in Pariah (which I last read when it came out) that explains what happens between Nayl visiting Bequin in stasis and the end of the Ravenor series?

McCoy Pauley
Mar 2, 2006
Gonna eat so many goddamn crumpets.

D-Pad posted:

I had the same confusion on my latest reread. It's mentioned once then never again. I figured maybe it was mentioned in one of the short stories that I skipped in this reread.

Thanks. I just finished Perihelion, and have just "The Magos" left to read, and unless it's mentioned in that one, then no, it's not in any of the other short stories collected in that book.

It just seems weird that it's presented as having some significance in Ravenor -- Nayl makes a special trip -- and then by the end of the book it's just forgotten about.

McCoy Pauley
Mar 2, 2006
Gonna eat so many goddamn crumpets.

Skulk Hogan posted:

Should I read Eisenhorn or Night Lords first?

Not new to Warhammer novels, I've probably read a dozen or so (including the first 5 Horus Heresy books) and could really use a break from how great the Emperor is. I keep looking through the OP of this thread and never bookmark it but I've got it now.

Eisenhorn, when I read it, led me to immediately read the Ravenor trilogy (and now would also lead me to read Magos and the two Pariah books). Night Lords would be a shorter endeavor to start with.

McCoy Pauley
Mar 2, 2006
Gonna eat so many goddamn crumpets.

orphean posted:

The four book Genevieve omnibus is a really good deal - four full novels, over 1000 pages of old world awesomeness. If you haven't read them highly recommended.

I have a paperback Genevieve omnibus published in 2005, where Kim Newman is credited as "Jack Yeovil," and the contents are Drachenfels, Genevieve Undead, Beasts in Velvet, and Silver Nails. Is it the same content in this new omnibus, or has Newman written some new material?

McCoy Pauley
Mar 2, 2006
Gonna eat so many goddamn crumpets.

Primus posted:

I really enjoyed it! I will say that even for a 40K book I found it pretty gory. It’s a very atmospheric story too. There’s some references to stuff that happens in the short story collection No Good Men, but I didn’t feel like the story suffered for that.

I really liked Bloodlines and then sort of forgot that the 40K Crime series existed. What should I read next after Bloodlines -- No Good Men? Flesh and Steel?

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McCoy Pauley
Mar 2, 2006
Gonna eat so many goddamn crumpets.

D-Pad posted:

All three of the crime anthologies have been surprisingly good. Crime just works better than bolter porn for short stories. Flesh and Steel wasn't bad but it also wasn't outstanding. Some cool parts though, like they visit a servitor factory and it is fuuuuucked up. Grim Repast is definitely worth it. Dredge Runners, the audio drama, was excellent and I am usually not into those but don't skip it. Overall the crime stuff has been really great and much better than I ever expected.

Thanks. Any particular order in which to read them, or it doesn't matter?

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