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galagazombie
Oct 31, 2011

A silly little mouse!

Peanut Butler posted:

this whole post is about obsolete social technology, but that another thing that I haven't seen in years: not trusting people to operate the soda fountain themselves

That’s not trust it’s greed. The extra inconvenience of having to waste time waiting in line, and the social interaction with the cashier, will discourage a lot of people from getting a refill they would have gotten if they could just get it themselves.

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Waste of Breath
Dec 30, 2021

I only know🧠 one1️⃣ thing🪨: I😡 want😤 to 🔪kill☠️… 😈Chaos😱… I need🥵 to. [TIME⏰ TO DIE☠️]
:same:

galagazombie posted:

That’s not trust it’s greed. The extra inconvenience of having to waste time waiting in line, and the social interaction with the cashier, will discourage a lot of people from getting a refill they would have gotten if they could just get it themselves.

They are saying self service is more prevalent than forcing you to engage with an employee.

Dicty Bojangles
Apr 14, 2001

UGH engaging with other people

now that is some obsolete and failed technology

barbecue at the folks
Jul 20, 2007


I'm constantly amazed at how much people are willing to throw money away just to not interact with other human beings. Half the gig economy is only possible because people prefer using an app over, y'know, talking to someone.

Iron Crowned
May 6, 2003

by Hand Knit

barbecue at the folks posted:

I'm constantly amazed at how much people are willing to throw money away just to not interact with other human beings. Half the gig economy is only possible because people prefer using an app over, y'know, talking to someone.

It's not talking to someone, it's preferring to use an app instead of doing it themselves. Why buy groceries when you can pay someone else to do it while you're on the PlayStation? You don't even have to wear pants!

Explosionface
May 30, 2011

We can dance if we want to,
we can leave Marle behind.
'Cause your fiends don't dance,
and if they don't dance,
they'll get a Robo Fist of mine.


People are awful. Especially me. I help the world out every minute I get to be a recluse.

Space Kablooey
May 6, 2009



:lol:

I thought phones didn't send out pulses when they were on the hook.

Humbug Scoolbus
Apr 25, 2008

The scarlet letter was her passport into regions where other women dared not tread. Shame, Despair, Solitude! These had been her teachers, stern and wild ones, and they had made her strong, but taught her much amiss.
Clapping Larry

Iron Crowned posted:

It's not talking to someone, it's preferring to use an app instead of doing it themselves. Why buy groceries when you can pay someone else to do it while you're on the PlayStation? You don't even have to wear pants!

I get my groceries delivered because I don't have a car and I have severe rheumatoid arthritis. Walking two miles while carrying heavy bags is absolute agony.

madeintaipei
Jul 13, 2012

Humbug Scoolbus posted:

I get my groceries delivered because I don't have a car and I have severe rheumatoid arthritis. Walking two miles while carrying heavy bags is absolute agony.

Especially without pants on!

Humbug Scoolbus
Apr 25, 2008

The scarlet letter was her passport into regions where other women dared not tread. Shame, Despair, Solitude! These had been her teachers, stern and wild ones, and they had made her strong, but taught her much amiss.
Clapping Larry

madeintaipei posted:

Especially without pants on!

Hey! Freeballing is life buddy!

madeintaipei
Jul 13, 2012

Humbug Scoolbus posted:

Hey! Freeballing is life buddy!

Awfully hard to carry groceries in one of those little carts, when all the space is taken up by your enormous balls!

Obsolete and failed grocery store technology: buggies with castors on the front and fixed wheels in the back. Sure, it makes them easier to move in large numbers with one person. For everything else, they suck.

Yes, I'm ignoring POS and inventory systems running in shells on top of shells, themselves decades old. Yes, I'm ignoring the entire checkout process. I'll even forgive ancient timeclocks that require manual adjustment of hours because they only work half the time (that's management's problem, lol).

But none of those things encourage people to turn their buggy around in place without looking and smack me square in the nads. Twice this week alone and I've only worked Mon & Tues. One person even tried to push through me after saying sorry.

Sorry to rant, but my testes sad and swollen.

Peanut Butler
Jul 25, 2003



madeintaipei posted:

Obsolete and failed grocery store technology: buggies with castors on the front and fixed wheels in the back. Sure, it makes them easier to move in large numbers with one person. For everything else, they suck.

this is the regular and modern technology everywhere here, I think they're fine unless they're the old uncoated metal kind that will shock you

Kwyndig
Sep 23, 2006

Heeeeeey


What I hate is where they have two kinds of cart/buggy (new one to me) and they're built in such a way that they can't stack with each other. So you either end up with two lines of carts in the parking lot and in the store, or you get some kind of hellbeast nonsense where your stacks are interrupted by stacks of the other cart in the middle, making it a huge hassle for everyone.

Iron Crowned
May 6, 2003

by Hand Knit

Kwyndig posted:

What I hate is where they have two kinds of cart/buggy (new one to me) and they're built in such a way that they can't stack with each other. So you either end up with two lines of carts in the parking lot and in the store, or you get some kind of hellbeast nonsense where your stacks are interrupted by stacks of the other cart in the middle, making it a huge hassle for everyone.

Meijer labels the parking lot cart returns for large carts and small carts with decent enough success. It does depend on if someone put the correct cart in the correct side about 3 times in a row when it's empty, because otherwise it becomes a free for all.

Cojawfee
May 31, 2006
I think the US is dumb for not using Celsius

Iron Crowned posted:

Meijer labels the parking lot cart returns for large carts and small carts with decent enough success. It does depend on if someone put the correct cart in the correct side about 3 times in a row when it's empty, because otherwise it becomes a free for all.

HEB does this but idiots still put carts in the wrong place because it's not their problem.

Pham Nuwen
Oct 30, 2010



Where the hell do you people live that people actually put carts in the corral? Californians just shove them anywhere: up into the landscaping, between parked cars, yeeted from across the lot in the general direction of the corral...

Mantle
May 15, 2004

Pham Nuwen posted:

Where the hell do you people live that people actually put carts in the corral? Californians just shove them anywhere: up into the landscaping, between parked cars, yeeted from across the lot in the general direction of the corral...

Canada?

Ensign Expendable
Nov 11, 2008

Lager beer is proof that god loves us
Pillbug

Kwyndig posted:

What I hate is where they have two kinds of cart/buggy (new one to me) and they're built in such a way that they can't stack with each other. So you either end up with two lines of carts in the parking lot and in the store, or you get some kind of hellbeast nonsense where your stacks are interrupted by stacks of the other cart in the middle, making it a huge hassle for everyone.

My local store has two kinds (different lengths), but they're also different colours, so people stack them properly.

Neito
Feb 18, 2009

😌Finally, an avatar the describes my love of tech❤️‍💻, my love of anime💖🎎, and why I'll never see a real girl 🙆‍♀️naked😭.

Peanut Butler posted:

Kansas- long history of fighting against slavers, liquor barons, and casino operators because that trifecta was largely responsible for making this place a hellscape in the 19th century (especially for women)- it's also bound up in protestant austerity and paternal utopianism, tho, 'under christ's watch there will be no exploitation', kind of a thing. So. A century and a half later: no booze in the grocery store or gas stations, full-strength beer outside of liquor stores was just legalized a few years ago, as of fifteen years ago you can sell liquor on Sunday, and as of eight months ago you can open your liquor store on Sunday before noon (but no earlier than 9am, and only if the city government approves it). We lived right by the border, though, so you could just pop over to Missouri- still a valid tactic as the prices are cheaper, and if you're in the ozarkland special economic opportunity zone, EU wine/beer is VERY cheap

When I was a kid, liquor stores weren't allowed to have custom signs- they had to get a special neon sign that doubled as a license, all in the same style, and strip mall liquor stores would have marquees that said "?????????????". Some counties you still have to pay a token fee for a token membership to drink at a bar (usually it costs the same as a drink and comes with a free drink), and there are still dry counties but I very rarely visit my own state outside the Topeka-KC corridor

Native reservation gambling is relatively recent, less a matter of legalization and more a matter of the state not having a legal leg to stand on- people used to keep their private poker games secret at the same level that, say, 1990s midwest stoners would hide their weed habit.

I'm guessing the business operating the state lottery endpoint gets less of a percentage here than there, and isn't worth the negative association as a gambling den. There's one gas station in my hometown that straight up has a bank of slot machines that probably makes enough money to where the owner doesn't care- I suspect the cops are on the take for that one

Mass is also just mad weird and occationally contradictory. We were one of the first to decriminalize weed but one of the last to have recreational dispensaries. One of the first and most pervasive state lottories but only got casinos within the last five years. Skipping over state lines is also super familiar; it's pretty much how all the border towns in NH like Plastow justify their existance: cheep booze and cigarettes and fireworks, all just an hour north of Boston!

Peanut Butler posted:

weirdly the only restaurant I can think of here that has a lil mini-arcade in it (with 3-4 brand-new machines!) is called Papa Keno's. They don't do pitchers, tho, they just have free refills at the fountain

this whole post is about obsolete social technology, but that another thing that I haven't seen in years: not trusting people to operate the soda fountain themselves

Once Free Refills! became the norm, it was only a matter of time before they realized that the effort of refilling a cup wasn't worth a worker's time. Especially considering soda is basically free if you're doing a bag-in-box post-mix.

Sodaparts.com posted:

Average five gallon bag-in-box name brand syrup is approximately $62. It will yield about 30 gallons.

Computer viking
May 30, 2011
Now with less breakage.

Much of this seems very familiar- in many ways, the relationships between the nordic countries resemble that of the US states. (Though we have separate foreign policies and things - Sweden and Finland aren't even NATO members).

Norway has a national alcohol monopoly chain for anything above 4.7% abv, with a 20 year limit. ("The wine monopoly", and yes we're great at names). Anything alcoholic but lower is sold in grocery stores and has an 18 year age limit - but only 7-20 on workdays, 7-18 on Saturday, and not on Sunday, certain holidays, and election day. (The monopoly closes earlier, but I can't offhand remember when). You're also not allowed to have any sort of sale on or show ads for alcohol. (Though advertising nonalcoholic beer is allowed, which is used as a loophole).

I think the last dry counties and the last beer monopoly counties all gave up in the late 90s, at least.

There is also a nationwide lottery monopoly, and we aggressively block money transfers to foreign gambling companies that advertise to Norwegians. There's ongoing debate over if you're allowed to run a poker club and play for money. The answer seems to be "no", but we may in the future decide to treat it as a game of skill and allowing something regulated. And, yes, we have raided and closed multiple illegal poker clubs within the last ten years.

Sweden has similar rules but lower taxes and prices, so there is a lot of cross border shopping. Denmark even more so, but that's a longer ferry ride instead of a quick trip in a car.

There's a whole chain of border shopping - we go to Sweden, the Swedes to Denmark, the Danes to Germany, the Germans to Poland, the Poles ... I don't know, Belarussia?

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Voyager I
Jun 29, 2012

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Here in CT we still can't buy booze past 6 PM on Sundays, and not having curfews during the week is a very recent luxury.

Rectus
Apr 27, 2008

Computer viking posted:

Sweden has similar rules but lower taxes and prices, so there is a lot of cross border shopping. Denmark even more so, but that's a longer ferry ride instead of a quick trip in a car.

There's a whole chain of border shopping - we go to Sweden, the Swedes to Denmark, the Danes to Germany, the Germans to Poland, the Poles ... I don't know, Belarussia?

The overnight ferries between Sweden and Finland all stop by the tiny Åland islands in the middle of the Baltic sea, in order to exploit a legal loophole so they can sell tax-free booze onboard.

Kwyndig
Sep 23, 2006

Heeeeeey


Rectus posted:

The overnight ferries between Sweden and Finland all stop by the tiny Åland islands in the middle of the Baltic sea, in order to exploit a legal loophole so they can sell tax-free booze onboard.

I'm guessing for legal reasons the ferries are registered there even though nobody actually gets on or off the ferry when it stops over do they?

AlternateAccount
Apr 25, 2005
FYGM

Peanut Butler posted:

weirdly the only restaurant I can think of here that has a lil mini-arcade in it (with 3-4 brand-new machines!) is called Papa Keno's.

Pretty sure that that place is now Buffalo State Pizza, very similar, still good, and still has video games in that little nook.

The Papa Kenos moved way south and is now this more modern boring joint, the pizza is different and not good. And no video games.

Waste of Breath
Dec 30, 2021

I only know🧠 one1️⃣ thing🪨: I😡 want😤 to 🔪kill☠️… 😈Chaos😱… I need🥵 to. [TIME⏰ TO DIE☠️]
:same:

AlternateAccount posted:

Pretty sure that that place is now Buffalo State Pizza, very similar, still good, and still has video games in that little nook.

The Papa Kenos moved way south and is now this more modern boring joint, the pizza is different and not good. And no video games.

There's a papa kenos in Lawrence with arcade games (last I was there). Overland park isn't the center of the universe even if joco fuckknuckles think it is

3D Megadoodoo
Nov 25, 2010

Kwyndig posted:

I'm guessing for legal reasons the ferries are registered there even though nobody actually gets on or off the ferry when it stops over do they?

How do you think the people who live there travel?

Kwyndig
Sep 23, 2006

Heeeeeey


3D Megadoodoo posted:

How do you think the people who live there travel?

They have their own ferry? It's a bunch of islands, they would need to make multiple stops.

Rectus
Apr 27, 2008

Kwyndig posted:

I'm guessing for legal reasons the ferries are registered there even though nobody actually gets on or off the ferry when it stops over do they?

I think the reasoning is that Åland is an autonomous region exempt from the EU VAT rules, so they're allowed to not levy any VAT for goods sold on the ferries.

And it's a fairly popular tourist destination since the ferries make it easy to get there.

His Divine Shadow
Aug 7, 2000

I'm not a fascist. I'm a priest. Fascists dress up in black and tell people what to do.

Kwyndig posted:

I'm guessing for legal reasons the ferries are registered there even though nobody actually gets on or off the ferry when it stops over do they?

Åland is a very pleasant place. Want to go there next summer.

3D Megadoodoo
Nov 25, 2010

Ahvenanmaa's only claims to fame are a drinking song about the English bombarding it, and releasing a postage stamp with Cucumber Moped on it.

For the latter, they deserve independence (they don't actually want independence).

AlternateAccount
Apr 25, 2005
FYGM

Waste of Breath posted:

There's a papa kenos in Lawrence with arcade games (last I was there). Overland park isn't the center of the universe even if joco fuckknuckles think it is

Ah poo poo the joco fuckknuckle is me.

Dick Trauma
Nov 30, 2007

God damn it, you've got to be kind.
https://twitter.com/_derSammler/status/1482427375094751233?s=20

DicktheCat
Feb 15, 2011

Humphreys posted:

Yeah, I used to work night shift at a service station and local little gang of teens constantly tried to bribe me. After a month or so they actually realised I was never going to give in. They were otherwise good and I let them skate and BMX on my forecourt all night and gave them food from the hotbox that was going to go in the bin anyway. If anything it was a mutual sort of arrangement, I had kids keeping an eye out for drive offs and they had someone safe to hangout.

I used to feed the taxi drivers too but had ones wife call me banning me from giving him meat pies cos of his high cholesterol. His face was a priceless mix of depression/anger when I denied him his late night snack.

I have been depressed, and this made me smile. Thanks.

Peanut Butler
Jul 25, 2003



Waste of Breath posted:

There's a papa kenos in Lawrence with arcade games (last I was there). Overland park isn't the center of the universe even if joco fuckknuckles think it is

it kind of is the center of the region
I was talking about the Lawrence one, yeah, but this is a small town compared to amalgamated joco

also holy crap i think this forum has the highest density of kansas city people i've ever seen online, i'm usually the only one

Humphreys
Jan 26, 2013

We conceived a way to use my mother as a porn mule


This is amazing

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cVqqNigImtU

Dick Trauma
Nov 30, 2007

God damn it, you've got to be kind.
I have never seen such a thing. What an ethereal sound.

Unperson_47
Oct 14, 2007




Dude sliced his hand on it and continued playing using the blood as the lubricant for the glass. Who knew the most metal instrument was made from glass

GWBBQ
Jan 2, 2005


These were used as US Green Cards until 2010.

Robobot
Aug 21, 2018

You know, every once in awhile you run into an instrument that sounds just soooooo outlandish and silly but then turns out to be magical. This is one of those.

Another one is the hurdy gurdy:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bvNZeh6f8vE

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Scarodactyl
Oct 22, 2015


Not the hurdy gurdy video I was expecting tbh

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YV__C64Ni50

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