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Johnny Aztec posted:Well, what if WIFI went out, huh what then? I read this awful recent novel about an EMP destroying civilization and the Boomer author-insert character has all these thoughts about how people of the 50's could handle things better and all I could think of was how the main character in the 1959 nuclear war novel Alas, Babylon thinks people of the 50's are too soft to deal with the collapse of civilization and people of the past could handle things better.
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loving Homer in the Illiad is like "This is a story of the REAL men in our forefather's day, not like the decadent pansies you see nowadays."
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Sep 24, 2019 17:30
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Wacky Delly posted:This is GPS. For the device to calculate where you are, it has to download the map of where all the satellites are. This takes forever as you only get about 50 bits per second from, you know, space. Phones and more modern devices with internet connections use aGPS where it grabs that data using the faster internet connection. Once the device has that it can determine location. Oh for sure, aGPS is amazing, but that unit was slooow. Imagine having to stand in the same spot for 30mins at the beginning of a journey just to get the fix. Only 6 years later, you could get one of these:  Which could initialise in 5 minutes and if you knew where you were to the nearest 250miles, it could do it in less than a minute.
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Sep 24, 2019 17:53
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Wacky Delly posted:This is GPS. For the device to calculate where you are, it has to download the map of where all the satellites are. This takes forever as you only get about 50 bits per second from, you know, space. Phones and more modern devices with internet connections use aGPS where it grabs that data using the faster internet connection. Once the device has that it can determine location. Pretty sure this was called "almanac data" Some super early GPS receivers had no memory to store this data, so you had to wait for it to be re-downloaded every time you powered the receiver up. Also the data is only valid for a period of time, so if you had a receiver that did store the data, but you hadn't powered it up in several weeks, the almanac data was no longer valid, thus a wait for it to re-download. If a receiver was powered up periodically before the almanac data was stale, it would be kept up to date.
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Sep 24, 2019 18:29
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A Youtuber I follow who owns some questionable vehicles like a Trabant (yes, from East Germany) and a Wheego (a late 00s EV Smartcar knockoff) got a chance to drive a 70s EV I'd never heard of that is incredibly obsolete and failed: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ilIozuRmTQs His infectious giddiness at the sheer ridiculousness of this "car" had me laughing for a good minute after the video. As one of the Youtube comments put it "This is like the Doug Demuro of cars that WERE quirks, had NO features and were bumper-to-bumper mistakes. Well done, I was thoroughly entertained."
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Sep 24, 2019 18:38
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Mr.Radar posted:A Youtuber I follow who owns some questionable vehicles like a Trabant (yes, from East Germany) and a Wheego (a late 00s EV Smartcar knockoff) got a chance to drive a 70s EV I'd never heard of that is incredibly obsolete and failed: I'm the cat licking its rear end in a top hat at 0:35.
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Sep 24, 2019 18:51
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i started using discord. i think one of the reasons its exploding rn is because it satisfies a similar niche to traditional forums like SA.
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Sep 24, 2019 19:42
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Kanine posted:i started using discord. i think one of the reasons its exploding rn is because it satisfies a similar niche to traditional forums like SA. What do you mean? IRC is basically the same thing
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Sep 24, 2019 19:56
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Discord is IRC but what if it was actually good.
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Sep 24, 2019 19:58
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No I mean I'm using discord too it's great, but what niche are we talking about? I mean forums are a different thing.
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Sep 24, 2019 20:00
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Vic posted:I mean forums are a different thing. Like the subfora on SA have various Discords but gently caress me if I know much about them.
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Sep 24, 2019 20:07
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Known Lecher posted:Among the many amusing things in that cyberpunk photo, the one that always strikes me is the giant Sony Pyxis GPS. This was well before the US government turned off Selective Availability that intentionally degraded the signal for civilian users, so that thing was only accurate to within 100 meters or so. I just glanced over the GPS initially but when you mentioned it, I immediately remembered that Dave did a repair video of what seems to be the exact same Pyxis model a few years ago: https://youtu.be/az4B2o4Kcsc Shut up Meg posted:I find that amazing that you're not being hyperbolic. Literally everything can be run on a bone-stock smartphone, probably using free apps from the app store. Not even a special dongle, add-on or software required Cojawfee posted:Discord is IRC but what if it was actually good. It'd be pretty cool If someone made Discord but good
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Sep 24, 2019 22:10
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Discord but good is IRC but good is
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Sep 24, 2019 22:26
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mobby_6kl posted:Yep I wasn't exaggerating at all. Although I guess I missed the laser pointer, don't think there's a phone with that integrated. And for the voltmeter you'd need those lovely Kickstarter BT probes or something like that. And the monocular, because zoom on phone cameras is bullshit.
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Sep 24, 2019 22:35
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mobby_6kl posted:
I suppose you'd actually want a small laptop with real usb ports and a copy of windows to do things properly. At the very least, it's going to have a wifi antenna that you can run wifi hacking stuff on. And a proper keyboard, because gently caress trying to hack a Gibson with a touchscreen and autocorrect Pham Nuwen posted:And the monocular, because zoom on phone cameras is bullshit. It's supposed to be for shoulder-surfing, but let's be honest, the chances of anyone not noticing you doing a Jack Sparrow on the high street is pretty low. You'd probably use a tiny wifi camera instead now.
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Sep 24, 2019 23:09
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mobby_6kl posted:You know that's not just a dedicated RSS machine right? Not to be That Person, but your phone has a laser, electronic lockpick and a monocular (for shoulder-surfing the passwords)
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Sep 24, 2019 23:29
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Shut up Meg posted:And a proper keyboard, because gently caress trying to hack a Gibson with a touchscreen and autocorrect This reminded me of Shadowrun and I wanted to post a picture of someone with a keyboard plugged into their head. So I GISed and:     lol this is what I was looking for though: 
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Sep 24, 2019 23:32
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Vic posted:This reminded me of Shadowrun and I wanted to post a picture of someone with a keyboard plugged into their head. So I GISed and: The bear is covered in fur but also has a beard that is a different kind of fur on top of its fur. The bear also has a book labeled SECRET NOTES furries, man. furries.
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Sep 24, 2019 23:49
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Imagined posted:loving Homer in the Illiad is like "This is a story of the REAL men in our forefather's day, not like the decadent pansies you see nowadays." To be totally fair though if society collapsed I'd be dead in like, six hours so maybe they have a point.
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Sep 24, 2019 23:53
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SniperWoreConverse posted:see this is the exact type of poo poo that should be common by now, fuckin cyberpunk poo poo. Slamming those g keys for hypernet ultracomputing How cyberpunk is this: I used the thing a lot cause the thumb stick was actually useful, the keys sucked though...but eventually i hosed it up when i spilled vape juice onto it, and it would just leak vape juice from time to time over the next few months. I sorta miss it. SniperWoreConverse posted:see this is the exact type of poo poo that should be common by now, fuckin cyberpunk poo poo. Slamming those g keys for hypernet ultracomputing The display was totally pointless, also it would sit in my keyboard tray totally obscured by the table. You could program it to do all kinds of stuff though.
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Sep 24, 2019 23:59
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Known Lecher posted:Among the many amusing things in that cyberpunk photo, the one that always strikes me is the giant Sony Pyxis GPS. This was well before the US government turned off Selective Availability that intentionally degraded the signal for civilian users, so that thing was only accurate to within 100 meters or so. It could've been accurate! Iirc, the entire reason they shut it down was because it was completely obsolete by that point. Processing power and bypassing techniques had gotten to a level where there wasn't really anything they could do to the signal to make it less accurate while still being able to access the accurate signal themselves.
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I think it's worth noting that the original intent of Selective Availability was to deny US enemies the use of GPS by using civilian devices, which is fair enough really. Apparently during the Gulf War, some US troops bought civilian GPS units since there was a shortage of military units, so they had to turn off SA for the duration of the war anyway. And yeah, one of the main reasons for turning it off permanently was that it had become ineffective. In particular, it was because by that stage there were enough fixed-location GPS stations that you can work out the SA offset trivially and broadcast it to anyone. Chairman Mao posted:To be totally fair though if society collapsed I'd be dead in like, six hours so maybe they have a point. Yeah, me too probably, but in all likelihood, that smug boomer would be dead as well.
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Sep 25, 2019 00:52
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mobby_6kl posted:You know that's not just a dedicated RSS machine right? I always liked him carrying around a bunch of magazines for some reason. But yea, most of that can be done with a phone. I'm playing Watch Dogs 2 currently and phones being the device used for most hacking seems totally believable to me. Even uses the idea of apps for game play interactions. We see proper servers and computers, but field world is all phones and micro laptops. Drones for some covert infiltration.
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Sep 25, 2019 00:56
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Pham Nuwen posted:The bear is covered in fur but also has a beard that is a different kind of fur on top of its fur. Before I switched offices I had a drawer under my desk labelled "KULLEJA" (dicks) and loads of people would ask me what was in that drawer.
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Sep 25, 2019 01:12
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Chairman Mao posted:To be totally fair though if society collapsed I'd be dead in like, six hours so maybe they have a point. I'm an Eagle Scout! I'd last twelve hours.
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twistedmentat posted:I always liked him carrying around a bunch of magazines for some reason. It’s a terrible waste of $70 but I want an lightning console cable for iPads and iPhones so I can really be a hacker. Go down to my company’s datacenter and jack into a router with an unauthorized personal device and get dragged out by security like the L33t h@ck3r I am. Does anyone remember the IP hacker serial killer episode of the Chris Carter show Millennium? I barely knew what an IP address was back then so I imagine it has aged like absolute rear end.
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Sep 25, 2019 02:27
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Everything except the comedy episodes of all shows like that aged like rear end. So X Files aged the best because it was like 75% comedy episodes.
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Sep 25, 2019 02:39
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Scorpion or $c0rP10N or whatever wasn't that long ago and it aged like milk. The first episode (the only one I've seen) had a disk located in a SAN based on the height of the DC manager, car stereo door speakers being too loud and magnetically wiping a hard drive, and a god damned jet engine dropping a networking cable out of the wheel well, while in flight, so a car racing down the runway under the plane could connect up and upload new flight control data.
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Sep 25, 2019 03:29
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Chairman Mao posted:To be totally fair though if society collapsed I'd be dead in like, six hours so maybe they have a point. I actually have a fairly well thought out plan that I think would work. I'd travel to my prepper former friend's house, shoot him in the face, and take all his poo poo.
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Antioch posted:Scorpion or $c0rP10N or whatever wasn't that long ago and it aged like milk. The first episode (the only one I've seen) had a disk located in a SAN based on the height of the DC manager, car stereo door speakers being too loud and magnetically wiping a hard drive, and a god damned jet engine dropping a networking cable out of the wheel well, while in flight, so a car racing down the runway under the plane could connect up and upload new flight control data. So it was no more than 100 meters off the ground because otherwise they’re going to need a smaller jet in between to act as a repeater.
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Sep 25, 2019 03:43
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Scorpion is like two years old.
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Sep 25, 2019 03:50
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Jerry Cotton posted:Scorpion is like two years old. That's what happens when your tech advisor is some producer's teenage son who "knows computers."
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Antioch posted:Scorpion or $c0rP10N or whatever wasn't that long ago and it aged like milk. The first episode (the only one I've seen) had a disk located in a SAN based on the height of the DC manager, car stereo door speakers being too loud and magnetically wiping a hard drive, and a god damned jet engine dropping a networking cable out of the wheel well, while in flight, so a car racing down the runway under the plane could connect up and upload new flight control data.
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Geoj posted:That's what happens when your tech advisor is some producer's teenage son who "knows computers." Seriouspost: I completely misunderstood what it means to "age like milk" ääähähähä.
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Antioch posted:car stereo door speakers being too loud and magnetically wiping a hard drive I am still irrationally afraid of getting even weak magnets anywhere near hard drives. v  v
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Code Jockey posted:I am still irrationally afraid of getting even weak magnets anywhere near hard drives. v Glue magnets to the chassis to repel magnets. LIFE: HACKED
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Jerry Cotton posted:Glue magnets to the chassis to repel magnets. LIFE: HACKED holy poo poo
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Code Jockey posted:I am still irrationally afraid of getting even weak magnets anywhere near hard drives. v Actual hard drives are not really susceptible to magnetic fields. It's that floppy disks used iron instead of cobalt (if I'm remembering right), and so were far more susceptible. Add to that a higher rate of exposure, since a floppy disk is in often in your hand, moving around, can be accidentally left under a fridge magnet, etc. I've found the paper I read about this, but it appears to be paywalled: use Sci-Hub, I guess? (edit: this is just a link to the ieee.org page for the paper.) Vavrek has a new favorite as of 08:21 on Sep 25, 2019 |
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Krispy Wafer posted:So it was no more than 100 meters off the ground because otherwise they’re going to need a smaller jet in between to act as a repeater. lol!
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For doubly obsolete and failed, how about an adapter to let you read SmartMedia cards using a floppy drive? https://twitter.com/whitequark/status/1177012361816883200 The rest of the Twitter thread is an ongoing attempt at reverse-engineering how it works.
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