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I mean I admire the dedication and big dick energy of "gently caress you, no backwards compatibility" since windows has bent itself backwards trying to do the impossible. Probably wouldn't appreciate it as much if I ever used an apple product or *scoff* pay for software. Linux Forever!
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Stingwing posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hG3Jud-829A
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Jul 9, 2020 06:04
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gloom posted:made me miss Windows Phone do what now
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Jul 9, 2020 06:15
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gloom posted:Also, watching this video review was exhausting.
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Jul 9, 2020 06:24
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Code Jockey posted:do what now  I mean there's a reason (lots of reasons) Windows Phone stopped being a thing, but the interface was pretty fresh in... 2010 or so? I still use some of the ringtones and notification sounds from WP7.5 on my current phone.
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Jul 9, 2020 07:08
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gloom posted:I liked the WP 7.0 typography, which looked a bit like the Zune's, and live tiles were neat Yeah, when released WP 7 and especially WP7.5 interface was aesthetically miles ahead of its competition; Default android interface looked like a cheap Chinese network router and iPhone still had that peculiar Fisher-Price look. Too bad about everything else.
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Moo the cow posted:I believe the Zune was the last piece of consumer electronics that was available in the colour of 'poo poo-brown'. It wasn't quite poo poo brown - the plastic used the same double-molding trick Apple used for the iPod, but instead of just putting a polished clear layer over white or black for maximum glossiness, the Zune had color combos like a matte green-tinted halo over a warm brown brown base color, or a blueish halo over black. It actually looked pretty neat in person. You'd get hints of both colors at different angles. The brown one was a retro look that was on-trend for the mid 2000s: half 70s hi-fi, half well-worn National Forest Service sign. Unfortunately, nobody thought about how it would look in photos, where the whole color-shifting thing was impossible to capture and it just blended into a really ugly, well, poo poo brown.
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I hung on to my Nokia Lumias as long as I could, since I really loved the Windows Phone interface. Back in 2012 it really was just miles ahead in design and functionality. Many facets of the system still run laps around Android phones: I miss the uncomplicated and clear phone settings, the tile based home screen which reduced clutter and made it really easy to see everything at a glance, the fun colours in a world where Android was and remains bland, etc. Too bad no-one outside Finland ever really cared.  WP was also the perfect phone to give to your 70-year old mother, which I immediately did, and she got the hang of things pretty easily after I set up the home screen tiles and basic apps to suit her needs. Now she has a basic Android Samsung which requires constant upkeep from me because its UI is laggy poo poo, it being Android means it gets clogged with poo poo constantly when she is told by the internet to download something and oops, it's some bloaty garbage, it sucks in oh so many ways! barbecue at the folks has a new favorite as of 08:45 on Jul 9, 2020 |
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Jul 9, 2020 08:39
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I think a lot of peoples hated of apple came from their marketing in the early 2000s. It was so smug and had ads that suggested that basic things like looking up a recipe online was a herculean task on PC. If have one complaint about Apple products is they seem to think removing features is the way of the future. They seem to think you'll always be connected to wifi with the laptops so you'll always be able to install and transfer things without needing a plug. I thought this video was pretty interesting. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kLan-BOybbk And yes, old virii can infect a modern machine. If you give them some help.
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Jul 9, 2020 09:52
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twistedmentat posted:I think a lot of peoples hated of apple came from their marketing in the early 2000s. It was so smug and had ads that suggested that basic things like looking up a recipe online was a herculean task on PC. If have one complaint about Apple products is they seem to think removing features is the way of the future. They seem to think you'll always be connected to wifi with the laptops so you'll always be able to install and transfer things without needing a plug. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RgBDdDdSqNE
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Buttcoin purse posted:Yes but when Windows switched to 64-bit you could no longer run 16-bit applications That’s because they can’t without running them in a VM, which they did provide initially.
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Jul 9, 2020 10:43
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twistedmentat posted:I think a lot of peoples hated of apple came from their marketing in the early 2000s. It was so smug and had ads that suggested that basic things like looking up a recipe online was a herculean task on PC. If have one complaint about Apple products is they seem to think removing features is the way of the future. They seem to think you'll always be connected to wifi with the laptops so you'll always be able to install and transfer things without needing a plug. Steve Jobs was on some sort of crusade against buttons and plugs, anything mechanical, his ideal device was a blank featureless slab. Apple is still following that idea. Everything has to be as slick and touch-based and wireless as possible. They're living large on the public perception of "it just works" and that PCs running Windows/Linux are somehow arcane complicated beasts that can only be tamed by boring fuddy-duddy guys in ill-fitting suits.
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T-man posted:I mean I admire the dedication and big dick energy of "gently caress you, no backwards compatibility" since windows has bent itself backwards trying to do the impossible. Probably wouldn't appreciate it as much if I ever used an apple product or *scoff* pay for software. Linux Forever! Linux with or without systemd? 
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Zopotantor posted:Linux with or without systemd? 
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With systemd. Haters get swirlies at recess. 
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FilthyImp posted:I had both and they were good. I just bought a tablet that has an FM tuner. It’s wild. Totally not something I’d expect in this form factor but a nice surprise.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hG3Jud-829A It's long, but it's an entertaining takedown of the Zune and why it failed.
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Speaking of mp3 players I had this awesome thing, I loved it so much, I would still be using it today if I didn't accidentally plug it into the wrong charger frying the battery.
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Jul 9, 2020 14:15
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I had a sandisk clip, which apparently is still being sold. It was great. Very small and light, the display was extremely easy to read, the menu was well laid out and I could use it blindly. It was so extremely small and light it hid in the laundry…turns out electronics don't like being washed for an hour.
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Jul 9, 2020 15:02
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I really wish there was an mp3 that let me download podcasts directly over WiFi and didn’t cost a ton of money.
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Antigravitas posted:I had a sandisk clip, which apparently is still being sold. Yeah the Sansa Clip line was great, I had an OG and Clip + with the mono and 2-color OLED screens respectively and then a Clip Fuse with the awful grainy color screen. They'd lost the plot by that point though because it had this godawful feature where all the controls would lock after 10 seconds of not touching it and you'd have to hold the volume button to unlock it, kind of defeating the whole 'I love how I can just control it from my pocket without having to look at it' aspect. You could Rockbox them too if for whatever reason you needed more esoteric features on a player that could play FLAC and do drag&drop file management out of the box.
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Jul 9, 2020 15:59
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Antigravitas posted:It was so extremely small and light it hid in the laundryturns out electronics don't like being washed for an hour. I did that with one ipod I forgot in a pocket... That was not fun.
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Jul 9, 2020 16:22
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I have some philips mp3 player that accidentally went through a washing machine and it works mostly fine.
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I still have my Sansa Fuze! It's 10 or 11 years old at this point. I use it for podcasts bc gently caress draining my phone battery and hauling around a phone plus headphone dongle for that poo poo. There's a literal bug crawling around inside the screen sometimes but it still works great
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I hate to contribute to the monthly mp3 player discussion, but you can still buy the SanDisk Clip Jam for like $30 on Amazon. It's tiny, like 1" by 2", takes a microSD card, and does pretty good with both music and audiobooks (I've been listening to The Lord of the Rings on and off for a couple months now). Battery lasts forever... I took mine on a two week trip to India and I'm not sure I ever charged it.
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Jul 9, 2020 17:02
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Had a Sansa Clip for many years, broke the actual clip part of it and bought a new one...pretty sure it played lossless, and had a micro usb card slot.
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I sometimes wonder if the only reason MS are as good as they are at backwards compatibility is because all their attempts at making something new have been either half-assed or abandoned before it had a real chance (or both). They do make nice hardware, though.
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I miss my Sandisk Sansa. I had dedicated little radios from Meh for it and everything.
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That reminds me of the Onions video about the Macbook Wheel https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9BnLbv6QYcA KozmoNaut posted:Steve Jobs was on some sort of crusade against buttons and plugs, anything mechanical, his ideal device was a blank featureless slab. Apple is still following that idea. Everything has to be as slick and touch-based and wireless as possible. Which is weird because those ads haven't been around for ages, I can't remember the last time I saw an ad for an Apple computer. And PC have become way more popular in the last years with PC gaming taking off big time.
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Computer viking posted:I sometimes wonder if the only reason MS are as good as they are at backwards compatibility is because all their attempts at making something new have been either half-assed or abandoned before it had a real chance (or both). Microsoft being good at backwards compatibility is 100% Raymond Chen realizing businesses wouldn't buy Windows 95 if it wasn't virtually 100% compatible with software written for Windows 3.1/3.11 including a whole bunch of obscure edge cases, and working to ingrain that concept into the culture of Microsoft.
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*tripping down five flights of stairs to land in this thread* I have an iPhone X and it’s fine
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rndmnmbr posted:Microsoft being good at backwards compatibility is 100% Raymond Chen realizing businesses wouldn't buy Windows 95 if it wasn't virtually 100% compatible with software written for Windows 3.1/3.11 including a whole bunch of obscure edge cases, and working to ingrain that concept into the culture of Microsoft. Or it's an op to maintain CIA access to everything. 
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After-market transponder keyfobs circa early 2000s. This is the IDEA but not what I had  They had a two-way function so when someone tried a door or the alarm went off it would send a signal back to the fob over RF if you were close enough I remember having one similar to this installed in my kicking rad Toyota Sera: 
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Nocheez posted:I miss my Sandisk Sansa. I had dedicated little radios from Meh for it and everything. My old Sansa Express was the first and only MP3 player I ever bought. Infinitely more usable than an iPod Shuffle.
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Humphreys posted:After-market transponder keyfobs circa early 2000s. Not obsolete and/or failed. Reading aussie car groups on fb makes me wonder that this is future tech for them as they get cool cars stolen every day. My TLC has one, it is paired with secondary aftermarket locks in doors, trunk and hood and has starter/fuel pump control with a special marker inside the fob. Basically the car won't open without secondary fob and will not start without it. Throw a tracker inside and you have a car that is a total rear end to get into and even harder to steal one.
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I currently use a Clip+. One for audiobooks and another for music. I still have this:  But the 30Gb version. When I first bought it, it was much cheaper than an iPod.
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twistedmentat posted:Which is weird because those ads haven't been around for ages, I can't remember the last time I saw an ad for an Apple computer. And PC have become way more popular in the last years with PC gaming taking off big time. I can't remember the last time I saw an Apple computer ad either, but for a long time it felt like every computer you saw in a TV show was a Mac. This wasn't an accident, of course - this 2012 article claims they weren't even paying for all this free advertising: quote:Even though Apple has announced again and again that it doesn't pay for spots, Apple products appeared in 891 TV shows in 2011 alone. According to Brandchannel, iDevices were in 40 percent of movie box office hits. The glowing logo on the old laptop lids was another amazing bit of free promotion. Even my computer ignorant dad commented on the rows of glowing apples whenever they showed the reporters at sporting events. I assume the removal of the glowing logo on the newer laptops is due to how the displays are made, because I can't see why you'd throw that away.
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Humphreys posted:After-market transponder keyfobs circa early 2000s. I felt like a loving wizard when I made the central lock in my BMW E36 wireless with a $30 ebay kit. I had to dig through tons of variants of the same kit to find one where the fobs looked neutral enough to not look like the keys to a combined disco/BDSM club
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Humphreys posted:After-market transponder keyfobs circa early 2000s. Guy in highschool had this pager that would tell him if his car alarm was going off, it seemed like a really cool idea at the time...and now. 
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Speaking of obsolete car technology, does anyone really buy aftermarket car stereos anymore? I bought aftermarket stereos for my first three cars, but haven't since 2006 or so, a combination of CDs going by the wayside and OEM standard equipment getting a lot better until you could say they're "good enough" for most people, which absolutely was NOT true in the 90s or before. Hell my 2014 VW has drat good speakers, and I didn't get any special package. But I remember semi-fondly the cheesy flashiness of aftermarket stereos, and having to take the faceplate off and carry it with me because car stereos were such a commonly stolen item. Not to mention the huge sleeves of CDs you kept in the car that almost everyone my age has a story about having stolen. Actually it kind of feels like cars just don't get broken into as often as they used to in general. It's been almost 20 years since the last time it happened to me, and I can't remember the last time anyone I know told me it happened to them, but in the 90s and early 2000s it feels like it was really common. Imagined has a new favorite as of 15:46 on Jul 10, 2020 |
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