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Kamrat
Nov 27, 2012

Thanks for playing Alone in the dark 2.

Now please fuck off


Won't flash still exist, it just wont be updated right?

Will they open source it or will they just drop it completely, I'm a bit out of the loop

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3D Megadoodoo
Nov 25, 2010

BENIS


sux

Shibawanko
Feb 13, 2013

someday he would have an anchor tattooed on his chest

my favorite weebl thing was always magical trevor

Some Goon
Jan 6, 2013

A golden helix streaked skyward from the Helvault. A thunderous explosion shattered the silver monolith and Avacyn emerged, free from her prison at last.



I can find the intro to Tamale Loco, only Tamale Loco 2, and as such I'll never remember what that one guy liked on his burritas, besides not donkeypoo.

Veni Vidi Ameche!
Nov 2, 2017
Probation
Can't post for 15 days!


Kamrat posted:

Won't flash still exist, it just wont be updated right?

Will they open source it or will they just drop it completely, I'm a bit out of the loop

Chrome is literally removing it from the browser. They say that at the end of 2020, flash will be gone from Chrome.

As for the technology itself, I haven’t heard anything about what is going to happen. I wouldn’t expect them to release it to the public, but it would be cool if they did.

Dysgenesis
Jul 12, 2012





Shibawanko posted:

my favorite weebl thing was always magical trevor

I remember binge watching cat face.

LifeSunDeath
Jan 4, 2007


Veni Vidi Ameche! posted:

Chrome is literally removing it from the browser. They say that at the end of 2020, flash will be gone from Chrome.

As for the technology itself, I haven’t heard anything about what is going to happen. I wouldn’t expect them to release it to the public, but it would be cool if they did.

I'm actually laughing at the idea of getting a retro flash pluggin for chrome now.

nishi koichi
Feb 16, 2007

everyone feels that way and gives up.
that's how they get away with it.




whoa i just remembered joecartoon, wonder what that guy’s up to these days

Arsenic Lupin
Apr 11, 2012

This particularly rapid unintelligible patter isn't generally heard, and if it is, it doesn't matter.





JnnyThndrs, I adore the contrast between your cottagecore shelves and the technology collection. Nicely played!

It's only indirectly Chrome's fault Flash is going away. Adobe itself is EOL-ing Flash because they don't want to keep patching security bugs supporting it. Why is it indirectly Chrome's fault? Because Google and Apple decided not to support Flash on smartphones, meaning that Flash games and godawful websites wouldn't work on phones.

However, there is a project afoot to archive most known Flash games, together with a streaming Flash player that will continue to work post-12/31. Project Flashpoint!


e: Just to be clear, after the EOL date, Flash won't work at all, in browser or in a standalone player. https://www.adobe.com/products/flas...nd-of-life.html

Arsenic Lupin has a new favorite as of 23:16 on Oct 28, 2020

Kamrat
Nov 27, 2012

Thanks for playing Alone in the dark 2.

Now please fuck off


Arsenic Lupin posted:

e: Just to be clear, after the EOL date, Flash won't work at all, in browser or in a standalone player. https://www.adobe.com/products/flas...nd-of-life.html

This is just silly, why let it completely die when they could just open source it and let the community take care of it.

Arsenic Lupin posted:

However, there is a project afoot to archive most known Flash games, together with a streaming Flash player that will continue to work post-12/31. Project Flashpoint!

This is great however, will certainly check it out.

aardwolf
Apr 27, 2013


Kamrat posted:

This is just silly, why let it completely die when they could just open source it and let the community take care of it.
Flash has been a buggy, insecure anchor dragging the world wide web down for nearly a quarter of a century. The question isn't "can we fix it?" it's "why the gently caress would any sane, rational person want to"?

The fact that Adobe is one of the groups cheerfully gearing up to drive a stake through that dark and desultory heart should tell you something.

Last Chance
Dec 31, 2004



StickDeath.com

Wasabi the J
Jan 23, 2008


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JBJtQjykq_4


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jQE66WA2s-A

Collateral Damage
Jun 13, 2009



Newgrounds is distributing their own Flash player so people can still watch their older content. Iirc you haven't been able to upload new flash content for a long time though.

Kamrat
Nov 27, 2012

Thanks for playing Alone in the dark 2.

Now please fuck off


aardwolf posted:

Flash has been a buggy, insecure anchor dragging the world wide web down for nearly a quarter of a century. The question isn't "can we fix it?" it's "why the gently caress would any sane, rational person want to"?

The fact that Adobe is one of the groups cheerfully gearing up to drive a stake through that dark and desultory heart should tell you something.

Open source projects usually has an easier time to keep things safe than big corporations, sure there will come a bunch of clones that are less safe etc. but the biggest one will be the safe one just because it's big and that's where all the good programmers will go.

But it doesn't matter now anyway since they're not making it open source.

Humphreys
Jan 26, 2013

We conceived a way to use my mother as a porn mule







Shibawanko posted:

my favorite weebl thing was always magical trevor

I work with a Trevor and I giggle like the town idiot whenever I tell him what he just did was 'ever so clever'.

Ruflux
Jun 16, 2012



aardwolf posted:

Flash has been a buggy, insecure anchor dragging the world wide web down for nearly a quarter of a century. The question isn't "can we fix it?" it's "why the gently caress would any sane, rational person want to"?

The fact that Adobe is one of the groups cheerfully gearing up to drive a stake through that dark and desultory heart should tell you something.

I recently got one of those Flash update prompts except it was "Flash is loving dead, thanks for using it, please uninstall it now if you don't need it or we'll do it for you by the end of the year and no you can't keep using it". I've never seen a technology company so dedicated to making sure one of its products is deprecated and stays that way, and I think that says a lot about Flash. Rest in piss.

Kwyndig
Sep 23, 2006

Heeeeeeey




Oh if Adobe could figure out a way to force uninstall old copies of Photoshop, it totally would.

stevewm
May 10, 2005


Arsenic Lupin posted:

Why is it indirectly Chrome's fault? Because Google and Apple decided not to support Flash on smartphones, meaning that Flash games and godawful websites wouldn't work on phones.


Actually! Android for a brief time DID support flash. Adobe specifically made and supported an Android version of the Flash runtime. The stock browser in Android 2.x to 4.x would run flash applets natively if the Flash Player from Adobe was installed from the Google Market/App Store. Adobe withdrew support for it around the time Android 4 started rolling out as it was clear even by then Flash was dying.

Edit: Found an old article mentioning its withdrawal from the app store: https://www.computerworld.com/artic...on-aug--15.html

stevewm has a new favorite as of 12:39 on Oct 29, 2020

Mr.Radar
Nov 5, 2005

You guys aren't going to believe this, but that guy is our games teacher.


I actually installed that on my Galaxy Nexus at the time. The few times I tried to use it I gave up because it was both incredibly slow/laggy and virtually no Flash content was designed with touchscreens in mind so any interactive content would require incredible precision with your screen taps.

Explosionface
May 30, 2011

We can dance if we want to,
we can leave Marle behind.
'Cause your fiends don't dance,
and if they don't dance,
they'll get a Robo Fist of mine.




Not to mention Flash would peg your phone's processor, making the phone approximately 1000 degrees after about two minutes of using it.

stevewm
May 10, 2005


My only experience with it was on a Barnes and Noble Nook e-reader/tablet. I bought one when it was discovered that it ran Android and the B&N launcher could be easily bypassed to install a standard Android launcher. There was not Market at the time on it, so everything had to be sideloaded.

Flash was... slow to say the least. My favorite time waster games worked, but it wasn't a pleasant experience.

GreenNight
Feb 19, 2006
Turning the light on the darkest places, you and I know we got to face this now. We got to face this now.

Not sure if this fits the thread but I love this guys stuff:

https://www.instagram.com/_bichopalo_/

rndmnmbr
Jul 3, 2012



Explosionface posted:

Not to mention Flash would peg your phone's processor, making the phone approximately 1000 degrees after about two minutes of using it.

This was the real killer and why Apple wouldn't allow Flash on mobile, it absolutely destroyed battery life. There were enough problems with battery life in the early days of smartphones, and enough pushback already on phones that needed charged daily, that Apple didn't want to allow Flash and give the iPhone the reputation of something that could only browse the internet while plugged into the wall.

You Am I
May 20, 2001

I will decide who posts John Howard pictures in this thread and the circumstances in which they post.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wBTTowksN28
I only remember this video from its filename - pika.swf

Konstantin
Jun 20, 2005
And the Lord said, "Look, they are one people, and they have all one language; and this is only the beginning of what they will do; nothing that they propose to do will now be impossible for them.

aardwolf posted:

Flash has been a buggy, insecure anchor dragging the world wide web down for nearly a quarter of a century. The question isn't "can we fix it?" it's "why the gently caress would any sane, rational person want to"?

The fact that Adobe is one of the groups cheerfully gearing up to drive a stake through that dark and desultory heart should tell you something.

Back in Flash's heyday, I remember Mozilla saying that it was the cause of over 90% of all Firefox crashes. They specifically wrote error recovery code to make sure a Flash crash wouldn't take down the whole browser.

Rev. Bleech_
Oct 19, 2004

We was comin' back from the island of Tinian to Leyte - just delivered the BUMB, the Hiroshima bumb. Eleven hundred men went into the water.



Killingyouguy! posted:

Lmao hell yeah

They eventually released a whole rear end cd of extremely bad hampster dance inspired tracks

an IRC friend took the music and slowed/pitched it down and named it "manster.wav". So just go "/sound manster.wav" and thrill as the entire channel is forced to listen to what sounds like the love child of Barry White and the body massage guy from Fensler's GI Joe shorts sing a little ditty before laughing all sinister

chitoryu12
Apr 23, 2014



Shibawanko posted:

you look at my balls and for this i will keel you

How is this burned into my brain so well?

Shibawanko
Feb 13, 2013

someday he would have an anchor tattooed on his chest

chitoryu12 posted:

How is this burned into my brain so well?

https://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/2318 because it owns

axolotl farmer
May 17, 2007

When I press the special key
it plays a little melody




Said it before and I'll say it again: Yatta is the best Pet Shop Boys song not actually by the Pet Shop Boys.

Wasabi the J
Jan 23, 2008


gently caress it I'm posting more old videos in this post

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iUz4OLQi_uw


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wCF3ywukQYA


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kCpjgl2baLs


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JIjJjgJ57Kk

F4rt5
May 20, 2006



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kCpjgl2baLs

Ah, the true source of all the "le x" memes

3D Megadoodoo
Nov 25, 2010

BENIS


Obsolete, not failed:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xBkEwa8k_4w

Mr.Radar
Nov 5, 2005

You guys aren't going to believe this, but that guy is our games teacher.


Cathode Ray Dude is the Youtube channel run by Twitter's @gravislizard. He hasn't posted many videos this year (understandably) but he just dropped this banger on the history of home video (as in ones you record of yourself, not just taping from TV):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=30Uc-JxJzYI

Severing
Aug 26, 2017



There are a couple of open source recreations of Flash out there. Not sure how good these are at being direct replacements though.

https://opensource.com/alternatives/flash-media-player

evobatman
Jul 30, 2006

it means nothing, but says everything!

Pillbug

I just sold off five full-size tape decks to make some space in the apartment, but my portables aren't going anywhere!

Buttcoin purse
Apr 24, 2014



The regular Flash installers you download for Windows seem to be just downloaders that probably won't work after the end of this year, but if you go to https://www.adobe.com/support/flash..._downloads.html the debug downloads seem to be full installers. In a Windows XP VM with no network access, I installed the last Firefox to support XP plus one of those debug plugins and I was able to view some flash stuff I'd saved from some sites years ago. It seems like at worst you might need to set your clock back if the debug installer checks if it's past the end of 2020

You Am I
May 20, 2001

I will decide who posts John Howard pictures in this thread and the circumstances in which they post.


evobatman posted:

I just sold off five full-size tape decks to make some space in the apartment, but my portables aren't going anywhere!



Oooh, nice Walkman!

My Lovely Horse
Aug 21, 2010




Been toying with the idea of getting a CRT for my retrogaming and someone in my area is more or less giving away a Trinitron. I'm tempted but extremely wary of the rumours of its weight.

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Collateral Damage
Jun 13, 2009



Depends on the size obviously, but if it's 30 inch or more bring a friend to help you lift.

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