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Rectus
Apr 27, 2008

KozmoNaut posted:

SCART is poo poo, the only redeeming features are audio return and RGB video.

Cheapest-feeling and flimsiest connector ever made. And so huge.

And it's almost impossible to plug in if you can't see the socket. Also, it gives fun surprise if you happen to touch the pins while the other end is plugged in.

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Rectus
Apr 27, 2008

mobby_6kl posted:

Are you still talking about SCART? Because I'm pretty sure it's keyed and only possible to insert one way in at most two tries. :colbert:

It's keyed, but the female plug is flat with just the outline of the shield to guide you. Unless the socket is recessed it will just feel like a smooth surface, and you'll have a hard time finding even where the socket is, much less getting it rotated to fit in.

Rectus
Apr 27, 2008

BattleMaster posted:

Realtalk what is this garbage-rear end DSL that's a quarter the speed of a T1? I just ran a speedtest.net on mine and I'm getting 11.66 Mb per second which is like 6 or 7 times as fast as a T1.

Edit: I mean I know the turtleass DSL is part of it being obsolete but I flat-out can't remember a time when DSL was that slow

The first ADSL connection I had at around year 2000 was at a blazing fast 512 kbps. It was very impressive at the time compared to 56k dial-up.

Rectus
Apr 27, 2008

razorrozar posted:

Are tech companies missing a trick by letting you buy one generalized $300 device instead of a bunch of specialized $150 devices?

The problem is that once someone releases a "good enough" combined product, you pretty much have to add the features to your own to be competitive.

Rectus
Apr 27, 2008

Pingiivi posted:

4 gigs of RAM? Really?

No way it'd boot that fast, the POST memory check must have taken ages to complete.

Rectus
Apr 27, 2008

MageMage posted:

Eh, it's not very cool, but someone ran Doom III on a VooDoo 2:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nUVXAl0dgYY

It's interesting to see how the environment has a low polycount, and how dependent it is of normal maps on every texture for adding detail.

Rectus
Apr 27, 2008

Lowen SoDium posted:

What was the PDA that Reed Richards uses in the second (?) Fantastic Four movie? I want to say it was a Nokia?

That reminded me that Nokia released a smartphone-sized Linux tablet in 2005.



The Nokia 770 had 4.1 inch 800x480 screen, and a full Internet browser with flash, as well as digital software distribution through APT.

Of course since Nokia had their head up their rear end at that point, they had no idea what to do with it. For some reason they never put a phone or modem in it, so it was limited to WiFi/tethering, and it was missing essential features like a calendar and contacts. They never seemed to try marketing it to the mainstream either, so it was mostly used by Linux nerds.

I had the N800 successor. It fit in your pocket almost as well as a smartphone, and it was powerful enough to watch movies on.

Rectus
Apr 27, 2008

Magnus Praeda posted:

I kept using mine even after I'd gotten a smartphone. I watched the entirety of The Wire on it. They really were fantastic devices for the time. They had a larger screen than any smartphone I've ever owned (even if the resolution doesn't hold a candle to today's densely packed pixel displays).

800x480 is still bigger than the first iPhones and android phones had. The screen of the N800 is almost exactly the size of the on on my S3. Bonus N900.

Rectus
Apr 27, 2008

axolotl farmer posted:

I'm old enough that these were in every classroom when I went to school. Sweden, 1980s-early 90s.



Tandberg, made in Norway :norway:

I remember there being one of those in a storage closet when I went to school in the mid 90s. Not sure if they even had any tapes for it anymore.


I also remember the teacher using one of these cool looking projectors (or something similar) to show slides.

Rectus
Apr 27, 2008

axolotl farmer posted:

'To be careful about things'

Pogo Pedagog slide reel, 1980

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fk382REtKW0

"Someone stepped in the principals flower patch again - bring out the punishment reel!"

Rectus
Apr 27, 2008

Shifty Pony posted:

The self-scan while shopping systems were a bit of a retail fad for a while in the early 2000s but they have largely been abandoned now.

They are a lot more attractive in Europe, or at least in countries where the stores have to pay their cashiers decent wages. It's cheap enough allow them to put up some self checkouts, fire most of the cashiers and still be able to eat the increased shoplifting costs.

Rectus
Apr 27, 2008

Shifty Pony posted:



Pocket Electrodex! All your contacts on the go!




I got a similar one with a weird concept. It's a PCMCIA card that you need to shove into a laptop to sync the contacts.

Rectus
Apr 27, 2008

Collateral Damage posted:

It will be the next hipster/audiophile thing, mark my words.

Porn looks so much warmer with dialup.

Rectus
Apr 27, 2008

jyrka posted:

Anywhere else had these cards for payphones in the 90s?



I vaguely remember those being a thing in Sweden until everyone got a cellphone in the late 90s. They're just as obsolete as the payphone itself.

Rectus
Apr 27, 2008

Powerlurker posted:

Japanese cafeterias have been doing this for years. Instead of having a cashier, you have a vending machine that dispenses meal tickets which you hand to the people preparing the food.

Some of the local McDonaldses added this and I tried it once. You order and pay through a touchscreen station and get a number, and they call it out on a screen when it's ready.

What happened was that they served one meal every 5 minutes and the place was full of people waiting for their orders. On the plus side I don't eat at McDonalds anymore.

Rectus
Apr 27, 2008

Lurking Haro posted:

How do you keep people waiting for their order if you only sell one every 5 minutes? I flipped burgers and could easily prepare a meal myself in that time. This includes frying up a batch of fries.

Even McDonalds in Japan takes your order and calls you out when it's done to keep the orders going.

I might have exaggerated a bit, but it took at least 15 -30 minutes to get the order. And it was dinner time on a friday.

Rectus
Apr 27, 2008

Humphreys posted:


Nokia N900 - always wanted one. They were marketed as hackable by Nokia themselves and the idea of dual booting Android and a full Linux Distro are appealing to me. If only its slideout keyboard was on a pivot like the N97.

It also runs Maemo by default. At least at the time I used one, the Android port to it didn't have all drivers working, I don't think you could even use it as a phone.

Rectus
Apr 27, 2008

Explosionface posted:

I have, tucked away somewhere, a Sidewinder Force Feedback Pro joystick. It was the best joystick I've ever used, with the only limitation being that it used gameport. Playing Crimson Skies with that was the best experience as each different size of gun had a different level of kick to it. My strategy of using .70 caliber guns on everything was extra fun.

Fun fact: The regualr gameport joystick interface is really limited, so apparently the Force Feedback Pro uses the MIDI interface of the gameport instead.

I have one as well, and a long time ago, I bought one of those gameport to USB adapters to try to get it working. But since those only emulate the joystick protocol, it didn't work. Seems like there are people online who have reverse engineered the protocol used and built USB converters for it.

Rectus
Apr 27, 2008

Lynxifer posted:

#TVLicencing chat.

In the 90's, they ran a whole slew of adverts about how they had super secret advanced technology that could detect a TV set from outside your house and that was enough to get you for thousands of pounds of fines and a criminal record.

1) That was never true, even if they could "detect" a TV, it wasn't legally enforceable on the magic finder box alone.


Apparently they used radiolocation here is Sweden in the '80s and early '90s to detect unlicensed TVs. It seemed to rely on TVs being badly shielded though, so not sure how effective it would have been. Guessing it was more of a scare tactic, just like in the UK. I remember all the scare ads they had on the public service channels.

https://web.archive.org/web/20081205191228/http://www.tekniskamuseet.se/templates/Page.aspx?id=3482


The Swedish TV license got turned into a tax this year since they couldn't put licensing fees on everything that could stream TV.

Rectus
Apr 27, 2008

Collateral Damage posted:

One of the first LAN parties I was at had 50 something computers all connected on a single 10base2 network, without grounding. :science:

50 computers on a single collision domain all trying to send game updates every frame must have been hell on the network, I wonder what percentage of the packets could have gotten through.

Rectus
Apr 27, 2008

3D Megadoodoo posted:

And also chooses the correct input when I put in a Video Home System cassette but I think that's brand-independent?

Built right into SCART. So nice everyone could enjoy that even in the 90's.

Rectus
Apr 27, 2008

It would be nice to have a single handed keyboard just so you don't have to take your other hand of the mouse to type something. Having to relocate your hand twice every time you need to type something just adds extra steps to a lot of computer use.

Rectus
Apr 27, 2008

Neito posted:

Ah, the joys of cooperative multitasking, where the program, not the operating system, decides when it's timeslice is up.

Also, you had to staticly allocate memory to applications at launch, which was just the stupidest design decision I've ever heard of, in front of whatever "System resources" were in Windows 3.11.

Both of those things are great for embedded systems where you know exactly what will be running, but yeah, not for consumer stuff.

Rectus
Apr 27, 2008

Dick Trauma posted:

This is what peak coolness looks like. :cool:



That CD drive looks like the one that came with the Pro Audio Spectrum 16 sound card. It's a SCSI drive and the whole guts of the drive slide out instead of just a tray.

My first PC got upgraded with one, and I still have it stashed in my closet. Note the repurposed IBM PC AT case.

https://twitter.com/rectus_sa/status/1134502190838685696

Rectus
Apr 27, 2008

Light Gun Man posted:

so is the button part the disc tray or the other way around?

that drive is all tray baby :wink:

Rectus
Apr 27, 2008

too lazy to dig mine out of the closet, but the whole guts come out when you press the button, like on laptop drives. Sort of like on this mitsumi drive (without the lid):


Seems like they are media vision branded.

Rectus
Apr 27, 2008

Collateral Damage posted:

Prepaid phone cards are definitely obsolete. Is there any phone provider that still charges for calls?

Telia still has prepaid phone cards. I barely use my phone so I have one. It has fun features like $2 per MB data, and a monthly punishment fee starting a month after you change the card. They really don't want people using them.

Rectus
Apr 27, 2008

Computer viking posted:

Sweden has similar rules but lower taxes and prices, so there is a lot of cross border shopping. Denmark even more so, but that's a longer ferry ride instead of a quick trip in a car.

There's a whole chain of border shopping - we go to Sweden, the Swedes to Denmark, the Danes to Germany, the Germans to Poland, the Poles ... I don't know, Belarussia?

The overnight ferries between Sweden and Finland all stop by the tiny Åland islands in the middle of the Baltic sea, in order to exploit a legal loophole so they can sell tax-free booze onboard.

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Rectus
Apr 27, 2008

Kwyndig posted:

I'm guessing for legal reasons the ferries are registered there even though nobody actually gets on or off the ferry when it stops over do they?

I think the reasoning is that Åland is an autonomous region exempt from the EU VAT rules, so they're allowed to not levy any VAT for goods sold on the ferries.

And it's a fairly popular tourist destination since the ferries make it easy to get there.

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